Re: Untrusted Connection Warning .
On Tue 20 July 2010 12:53:37 pm brian m. carlson wrote: > On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 11:00:33AM -0500, C M Reinehr wrote: > > On Tue 20 July 2010 10:38:13 am Siddharth Ravikumar wrote: > > > I have been trying to access the following links and I am getting a > > > "Untrusted Connection Warning " warning from firefox and ultimately I > > > am not able to access these links ! . > > > > > > https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/27/mainboards.html > > > https://alioth.debian.org/ > > > > > > Just try these links out and see . If your facing the same problem , > > > then someone in the list can help set things right . > > Is this Debian Iceweasel or the official Firefox build? See below for > why this matters. If it's the latter, does Iceweasel work okay? Iceweasel from the Debian package. It works with this website and most others. > > I had no difficulty accessing https://alioth.debian.org with > > IceWeasel/Firefox (v3.0.6) & Chrome (v5.0.375.99) but when I tried Opera > > (v10.60 internal) I received this warning: "The server's certificate > > chain is incomplete, and the signer(s) are not registered. Accept?" > > Does Opera use the default certificate store? The root certificate for > alioth is from the SPI certification authority. If you don't use the > Debian certificate store, then obviously it will not permit SPI-signed > certificates, since they're almost certainly not in the default store. OK, that's it. The Iceweasel package includes the SPI certificate authority but not Opera. I download a Debian package from the Opera repository, but apparently they didn't include the SPI certificate authority in the package. I'm not sure exactly how Chrome handles certificates. Thanks! cmr -- Debian 'Lenny' - Registered Linux User #241964 "More laws, less justice." -- Marcus Tullius Ciceroca, 42 BC -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201007201340.45969@amsent.com
Re: Untrusted Connection Warning .
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 11:00:33AM -0500, C M Reinehr wrote: > On Tue 20 July 2010 10:38:13 am Siddharth Ravikumar wrote: > > I have been trying to access the following links and I am getting a > > "Untrusted Connection Warning " warning from firefox and ultimately I > > am not able to access these links ! . > > > > https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/27/mainboards.html > > https://alioth.debian.org/ > > > > Just try these links out and see . If your facing the same problem , > > then someone in the list can help set things right . Is this Debian Iceweasel or the official Firefox build? See below for why this matters. If it's the latter, does Iceweasel work okay? > I had no difficulty accessing https://alioth.debian.org with > IceWeasel/Firefox > (v3.0.6) & Chrome (v5.0.375.99) but when I tried Opera (v10.60 internal) I > received this warning: "The server's certificate chain is incomplete, and the > signer(s) are not registered. Accept?" Does Opera use the default certificate store? The root certificate for alioth is from the SPI certification authority. If you don't use the Debian certificate store, then obviously it will not permit SPI-signed certificates, since they're almost certainly not in the default store. -- brian m. carlson / brian with sandals: Houston, Texas, US +1 832 623 2791 | http://www.crustytoothpaste.net/~bmc | My opinion only OpenPGP: RSA v4 4096b: 88AC E9B2 9196 305B A994 7552 F1BA 225C 0223 B187 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: intel i3 processor
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 12:25:34PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > Note that the i386 arch has 64-bit kernels. You get a larger > per-process memory space and more efficient use of .GT. 4GB RAM. Certainly (I run some servers that way). But still no more than 3GB per process when running 32bit applications. Also the application doesn't get to take advantage of the extra registers (but the kernel does). Certainly the 64bit kernel is the right choice on hardware that can run it. Whether you use 32 or 64bit for user space is a different matter. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100720174721.gg2...@caffeine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca
Re: intel i3 processor
On 07/19/2010 09:44 AM, Siddharth Ravikumar wrote: On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Lennart Sorensen wrote: If you want to use more than 3GB ram efficiently, or get the most out of your system, use 64bit. For a bit less hassles, use 32bit. I am actually quiet happy with 32bit , but it looks like the future is going to be 64bit. So if I build my comp this year , I will be using it for the next 3 - 4 years or so . I am under a confusion whether to go for 32bit or 64bit. Note that the i386 arch has 64-bit kernels. You get a larger per-process memory space and more efficient use of .GT. 4GB RAM. -- Seek truth from facts. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c45dc0e.8070...@cox.net
Re: Untrusted Connection Warning .
On Tue 20 July 2010 10:38:13 am Siddharth Ravikumar wrote: > I have been trying to access the following links and I am getting a > "Untrusted Connection Warning " warning from firefox and ultimately I > am not able to access these links ! . > > https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/27/mainboards.html > https://alioth.debian.org/ > > Just try these links out and see . If your facing the same problem , > then someone in the list can help set things right . > > -- > http://www.fsf.org/ > http://www.gnu.org/ > http://en.windows7sins.org/ > R.Siddharth I had no difficulty accessing https://alioth.debian.org with IceWeasel/Firefox (v3.0.6) & Chrome (v5.0.375.99) but when I tried Opera (v10.60 internal) I received this warning: "The server's certificate chain is incomplete, and the signer(s) are not registered. Accept?" HTH cmr -- Debian 'Lenny' - Registered Linux User #241964 "More laws, less justice." -- Marcus Tullius Ciceroca, 42 BC -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201007201100.33468@amsent.com
Re: Untrusted Connection Warning .
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Thierry Chatelet wrote: > On Tuesday 20 July 2010 17:38:13 Siddharth Ravikumar wrote: >> I have been trying to access the following links and I am getting a >> "Untrusted Connection Warning " warning from firefox and ultimately I >> am not able to access these links ! . >> >> https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/27/mainboards.html >> https://alioth.debian.org/ >> >> Just try these links out and see . If your facing the same problem , >> then someone in the list can help set things right . > > They open OK, without warning > Thierry This seems to be a not-infrequently reported issue: https://support.mozilla.com/en-US/forum/1/714216 The root cause tends to be the computer's clock being way off. If it's off by a couple of years, then logic checking for out-of-date SSL certificates will get the checks wrong. -- http://linuxfinances.info/info/linuxdistributions.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikzgijihrkhyfgbb8z280tpc711vqw7p_wmg...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Untrusted Connection Warning .
On Tuesday 20 July 2010 17:38:13 Siddharth Ravikumar wrote: > I have been trying to access the following links and I am getting a > "Untrusted Connection Warning " warning from firefox and ultimately I > am not able to access these links ! . > > https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/27/mainboards.html > https://alioth.debian.org/ > > Just try these links out and see . If your facing the same problem , > then someone in the list can help set things right . They open OK, without warning Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201007201754.10245.tchate...@free.fr
Untrusted Connection Warning .
I have been trying to access the following links and I am getting a "Untrusted Connection Warning " warning from firefox and ultimately I am not able to access these links ! . https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/27/mainboards.html https://alioth.debian.org/ Just try these links out and see . If your facing the same problem , then someone in the list can help set things right . -- http://www.fsf.org/ http://www.gnu.org/ http://en.windows7sins.org/ R.Siddharth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktim1jkmgh6pdp9rkgebexp5-asl-_snekotgq...@mail.gmail.com
Re: intel i3 processor
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 05:15:47PM +1000, Dean Hamstead wrote: > Amd64 is also about more general purposes registers in addition to bigger > numbers. > > Generally speaking anything will benefit from more registers, and if a > problem uses the larger int's (or uses a large number library which uses > them) you will experience enormous performance gains. > > More addressable memory helps as well. > > There is 64bit flash bit adobe dropped it. It can be found if you are happy > with the known security problems. > > 8 years of amd64 and counting. I've even asked our redhat rep when 32bit i686 > will be dropped (not any time soon, gar!) i386 has no problem doing 64bit intergers and 64 (and even 80) bit floating point. The difference is in the size of pointers. amd64 has 64bit pointers so each application can use more memory, and it has more general purpose registers (as you said) which helps the compiler optimize better, and it uses SSE for floating point (not x87) which is much faster and more efficient (but drops support for 80 bit floating point, not that anyone cares). Of course the fact you can optimize for amd64 instruction set rather than i486 also makes the compiler happier. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100720143131.ge2...@caffeine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca
Re: intel i3 processor
On 7/20/2010 2:15 AM, Dean Hamstead wrote: There is 64bit flash bit adobe dropped it. It was always a alpha/beta status, never a release. They have said that 64-bit will return, but gave no indication about when or in what form. My personal guess is that there was only ever one guy working on it, and he's too busy. But that is just speculation. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c4554ae.8080...@allums.com
Re: intel i3 processor
Amd64 is also about more general purposes registers in addition to bigger numbers. Generally speaking anything will benefit from more registers, and if a problem uses the larger int's (or uses a large number library which uses them) you will experience enormous performance gains. More addressable memory helps as well. There is 64bit flash bit adobe dropped it. It can be found if you are happy with the known security problems. 8 years of amd64 and counting. I've even asked our redhat rep when 32bit i686 will be dropped (not any time soon, gar!) Dean On 20/07/2010, at 2:10 AM, "brian m. carlson" wrote: > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 08:07:47PM +0530, Siddharth Ravikumar wrote: >> I don't use Flash and Skpype. I need emacs and Java OpenJDK 6 , these >> are the two most important things . If they are already ported to >> amd64 . Then its good news . > > Those work just fine on amd64. I use OpenJDK 6 all the time, and while > I don't use emacs, I'm quite certain I'd have heard if it didn't work. > > According to [0], all Core i3 models support the amd64 architecture > (which Intel calls Intel 64). Personally, if you don't need proprietary > 32-bit programs, I certainly encourage you to go with amd64: it can > provide small general speed improvements overall as well as very > significant ones in some applications. 32-bit programs can be run very > easily on an amd64 Debian system if they only use libraries installed by > the ia32-libs* packages. > > [0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Core_i3_microprocessors > > -- > brian m. carlson / brian with sandals: Houston, Texas, US > +1 832 623 2791 | http://www.crustytoothpaste.net/~bmc | My opinion only > OpenPGP: RSA v4 4096b: 88AC E9B2 9196 305B A994 7552 F1BA 225C 0223 B187 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/93039f00-dd44-4761-86e2-9df879769...@fragfest.com.au
