Re: your mail
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 12:02:44PM +0200, Pietro Paolini wrote: Hi all, I have still freeze in my laptop, I discover it is not related at a music or video reproduction, in adding I discovered that my Ethernet card is not recognized, I really really ask for help because my PC is going to be unusable! It happens when I stress a bit more my PC, like compilation kernel (*make -j*). I cannot use a stable release of debian due the kernel version, too old for my hardware, can someone suggest me a way in order to investigate better of the nature of my problem ? This is my sources.list file: deb http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main deb-src http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main You might want to have these two lines instead: ---CUT--- deb http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free ---CUT--- And if it still doesn't provid all the necessary drivers, try to also add: ---CUT--- deb http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free ---CUT--- [...] Good luck, Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120721113159.gl25...@dusk.harfang.homelinux.org
Re: your mail
Hi. I tried to add the firsts you wrote me and no result. Before add the last one I have a question, what I have to do is run: apt-get update apt-get upgrade You have to use aptitude or another software for selecting which package(s) to install. You might have some of the firmware packages missing... I'd also suggest that you try and post to the user mailing list. Since amd64 has become mainstream, this list is not very active. Regards, Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120721174329.gp25...@dusk.harfang.homelinux.org
Unusable windows
Hello. I apologize in advance for posting here, but I'm at a loss even figuring out where to report the situation I'm facing after my latest attempts to upgrade my system. Maybe people here will have an idea of which package is the likely culprit of the following symptoms. Launching kdm, and logging in (user name + password), everything seems to be fine at first. Logging out. The rectangular areas (where to write the user name and password) have become black. [When selecting with the mouse, one can see the login name.] The input works; so, one can still log in. Now, some application windows have a black background (e.g. iceape) and have become unusable (e.g. the buttons in the navigator are barely visible) and some seem to be transparent. For example, in a terminal window, the background (root) image appears to be its background. When logging out, and clicking on the choice of session button of the login manager, there is a black stripe at the bottom of that rectangle. I've tried to search on the web for similar situations but I could not find anything relevant yet. Hopefully someone here can point me in the right direction by naming a package against which to file a bug report, or providing a hint a how to solve the problem. Thanks, Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111226005459.ge25...@dusk.harfang.homelinux.org
Re: Which 64bit debian version for Intel(R) Core™2 Quad Processor Q8300?
Hi. Currently i am running windows 7 64 bit on a machine with Intel® Core™2 Quad Processor Q8300 (http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=39107). i would like to install debian. Is the amd64 bit version ok for this processor [...] Yes. Best regards, Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110527213949.gu10...@dusk.harfang.homelinux.org
Re: AMD vs Intel in 2009
Hi. A word of warning: I'm looking at replacing a few boxes with some new Tyan boards - [...] ^^ A few months ago [1], my machine broke down (in a still unknown way). It was 5 months after the 3-years warranty period provided by TYAN! I wrote 2 emails (detailing the symptoms) to their support kindly asking [2] how I could figure out what was wrong. They never answered. Best, Gilles [1] You can probably find the posts on this mailing list archive. [2] On their web site, they were threatening not to respond to insistent or otherwise incomplete requests. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: blacklist doesn't blacklist !!
On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 05:44:11PM -0300, macdowell@dpf.gov.br wrote: Hi I put ssd in my blacklist but after boot there it comes again. m...@hp:~$ cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist | grep ssb blacklist ssb m...@hp:~$ lsmod | grep ssb ssb43140 0 pcmcia 38680 1 ssb pcmcia_core41508 2 ssb,pcmcia m...@hp:~$ Why ? Perhaps it's loaded during boot in the initrd. Try rebuild your initrd with : # update-initramfs -u signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: recommended motherboards for build?
Hi. I have been thinking of building a low-power Debian AMD64 desktop with a Core 2 Quad CPU (probably the Q6600). The purpose of this machine is nothing special, just the basic computing type thing (office suite, email, web surfing) without the power-hungry hardware. If low power is important then you should consider the Q8200 CPU; from what I've read, it's less power hungry than the Q6600. Best, Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Tyan, Dell, Medion [Was: Re: Machine died]
Hello. Just to close this thread and thank all those who have provided advice. And also say all the bad I think of Tyan's literally non-existing support: I sent them a mail asking for advice on the possible causes of the motherboard (K8W Tiger S2875) behaviour I was seeing. They didn't even answer (yet?), after more than 5 weeks! Finally, I had the opportunity to buy a complete low-cost Medion desktop. I was afraid that some components might not be supported by Linux but, so far, no problem: CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 Motherboard: MSI * integrated audio (playback and recording) works * integrated wired network works * integrated firewire works * integrated memory card reader works Graphics: Nvidia 9600 GT HDD: Western Digital (1 TB) And very silent :-) [Only, I didn't find the advertised wireless network (couldn't spot anything related to it in dmesg) but I as I didn't intend to use it anyway...] For one moment, I considered Dell. I called them because their site is very uninformative concerning the hardware. I told them I wanted to use Linux and be sure that it would work with the shipped components. The answer was that I could erase the pre-installed M$ stuff but that the warranty would not apply if some components did not work. Saying that if I could not get any compatibility info or even just a hardware list to check myself, I wouldn't be able to buy from them, the guy just said No and hung up. [Compare that with Aldi (where I bought the Medion machine): Within one month, one can return the whole thing and be reimbursed, no question asked.] Best, Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Machine died
I am thinking, no BIOS reprogram necessary. Power Supply is always a good guess. I think it is time for a new system, but don't completely give up on the old one. Build a new machine, and when it is up and running, go back and see if the old one can be salvaged and put to good use. Bad RAM is always a potential problem too if the pwoer supply isn't it. I'm still not sure that my power supply is good; but even if it isn't, since I tried another one with all RAM unplugged, I figure that the MB should have beeped. No? If so, RAM can be bad, but the MB is surely bad :-/ Talking about RAM, is it possible to re-use it in a new MB? That is if the frequency is _lower_ than the one recommended by the MB? Also, I think that they are ECC. If not, what make is recommended nowadays? Build the new machine using an Intel CPU this time 'round, whether it was AMD or Intel before. Core 2 is your best bet, A Xeon for servers or multisocket workstations. It is too soon to buy Nehalem, if you need to buy it today. If you can wait three months, consider a Core i7. I agree entirely. I didn't think of that. That's a good idea since although with my usage a Core 2 is more than enough, I assume (?) that the prices might drop when the new series is available. [I can use the laptop in the meantime but I'll have to transfer data that was on a RAID1 disk. Is there anything I should be aware of if I plug this drive as an external (USB) disk? Do you know the mdadm command to use to make the RAID partition available (possibly read-only)?] Almost any wired network NIC will do. The onboard ones are probably supported by Linux. Yeah usually. I discovered recently that some (like BNX2 that IBM uses a lot) require a firmware file. How annoying when doing a netinstall. What do you think of this MB: http://www.cotubex.be/informatics/info.asp?cat=Motherboardartnr=34821navniv=2 Get a 80+ PS, meaning a PS that is at least 80% efficient. If you use it in an office building, or business, get one with power factor correction. What is the advantage? Do you have a specific make in mind? For a personal desktop machine, if 3d is necessary, nVidia or AMD/ATI both will do. AMD recently had its fiasco with the midrange chips. You may with to go with the red team (ATI) this time, until nVidia gets its act together. I am sticking with nvidia until ati gets their driver act together (hasn't ever happend yet, but there is always hope it will happen some day). My experience is that ATI makes great video chips and reliable boards, and have amazingly bad drivers and support. I used to use nothing else until I got badly burned by that, and won't deal with them again until they prove they care about customers. Also an ASUS card then? Do I lose something (since I'm currently not a gamer) by taking the cheapest from those: N7200GS N8400GS N8600GT N9600GT N9600GTX [I just might want to try compiz some day...] Is there a recommended card (from the point-of-view of the debian-packaged driver support)? Thanks for the advice, Gilles --- More than 2000 Scarlet customers don't pay a subscription anymore! Join and surf free of charge! http://www.scarlet.be/nl/mgm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Machine died
Hello.
Three years and a half ago, I bought a machine composed of what I thought
were good quality components:
MB: Dual Opteron MB Tyan Tiger K8W (S2875)
Graphics: Asus V9520 TD (FX 5200) - AGP
Power Supply: FSP Blue STorm (500W)
RAM: Kingston KVR333 (4x256MB)
Ten days ago, I halted the machine after 106 days uninterrupted use.
Strangely, it didn't shut down completely by itself: I had to switch the
main power supply. [IIRC the last line on the screen contained
acpi_power_off.]
Then the machine simply wouldn't start.
After clearing the CMOS, switching on the main PS would (directly, i.e.
without pressing the power button on the tower) start all the fans, and
all LEDs are on (power, HDD, CD). But nothing more happens (no boot).
A LED display on the MB indicates FF. Removing all the extension cards
doesn't change this behaviour.
I also tried another PS but that one doesn't even start the fans, which
seems the correct behaviour (?) but I cannot be completely sure.
Then, we discovered that the fan of the graphics card had burnt!
Could this be cause of the MB not working anymore? Visually there isn't
any sign of other burnt components on the MB.
I sent an email to Tyan last Friday; they haven't even acknowledged
receiving it... And their web site warns that you shouldn't send a message
twice lest you want that they answer even more slowly. Really nice.
One last thing I wanted to try is to have the BIOS chip reprogrammed (in
case it was somehow corrupted during the problem, whatever that was). But
no one offers this service here (Brussels) and the reseller is not really
helpful either...
So, it seems that after less than 4 years I am obliged to buy a new MB and,
consequently a new CPU (while we are otherwise still using an 8 years old
Athlon machine!). And a graphics card.
So I come here for:
1. Suggestions about the possible cause of the problem. Is there anything
else I can do to know what went wrong (if not repair)?
2. Advice on what to buy (CPU, MB, graphics and RAM) since it is doubtful
that I will get any help from Tyan.
With the usual provision: Everything must work with Debian GNU/Linux,
especially:
- Audio: both play _and_ recording (on the ThinkPad laptop I recently
bought, recording doesn't work: The chipset is not supported by the
kernel).
- 3D graphics acceleration
- Network
And, are there makes that offer longer warranty?
Thanks for reading my lament. :-{
Best regards,
Gilles
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Re: RedHat in Chroot
Hi. See http://virtualbox.org/ works great in i386 and amd64 mode. You might also have a look at http://linux-vserver.org/ Best, Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How would I get debian unstable?
See also: http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/talks/why_debian/talk.html Best, Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptop advice
Hello. Thanks for all the advice. A thinkpad that's cheap? I didn't think that was ever possible. They are quite nice in general though. How to assess cheapness? I saw that prices span quite a large range... Everyone here seems to agree that a ThinkPad is nice but expensive. So what does one get for the higher price (with respect to other laptops)? This one (ThinkPad R61) is currently a special offer at my usual IT shop: http://www5.pc.ibm.com/europe/products.nsf/$wwwPartNumLookup/_NF0FDxx?openOpenDocumentepi=web_express It seems that it has all the recommended components. Any gotchas I should be aware of? Best, Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Laptop advice
Hello. Sorry if this slightly off-topic. But what laptops would you currently advise to buy? Obviously, the purpose is that all the components be supported by Debian GNU/Linux. Specifications: - Lightweight but usable (i.e. screen should be 14 or 15). - Wired network adapter - Wireless network adapter - Firewire - Webcam Many thanks, Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: install Etch with raid level 10
Le Wednesday 26 September 2007 16:48:14 Scott Lair, vous avez écrit : Dave Ewart wrote: [...] Normally, one makes a RAID-10 software setup as follows: mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sd[ab]1 mdadm --create /dev/md1 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sd[cd]1 mdadm --create /dev/md2 --level=0 --raid-devices=2 /dev/md[01] [...] I've got some time to mess with it for a while and I'll post back the results. thanks, scott Instead of having md over md device, I suggest to do stripped LVM over RAID 1. And it is supported during installation ! signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: install Etch with raid level 10
Le Wednesday 26 September 2007 18:55:50 Lennart Sorensen, vous avez écrit : On Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 06:53:16PM +0200, Gilles Mocellin wrote: Instead of having md over md device, I suggest to do stripped LVM over RAID 1. And it is supported during installation ! But if you ever add more devices to the LVM you loose the stripe feature on those new additions (as far as I understand the LVM documentation). As you can't choose on wich device your LV's PE goes, you have only 2 choice to add space. - If you want to add LVs, just make another VG with 2 new RAID 1 PVs. - If you wan't to resize actual LVs on a full VG, you have to grow the RAIDs. It's hard but I have donne it once, all online. On a SAN, it's easy to resize a LUN, but if you use disks, you'll have to replace the disks with bigger ones. No idea if you can resize raid0 or raid1. You must use the --grow option of mdadm, and there's chances you'll have to synchronise your RAID each time one RAID is grown. If you can't replace your disks an only can add more disks, a backup/restore will be required to recreate the stripped LVs across more RAID1 PVs. Perhaps pvmove can help to switch to another VG without the backup/restore phase. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: install Etch with raid level 10
Le Wednesday 26 September 2007 18:58:14 A J Stiles, vous avez écrit : [...] Also, *don't* use a RAID1 for swap space: it impacts performance with little practical benefit. Use separate swap partitions from each drive (just to keep the partitioning schemes the same) instead. Sorry, but you'd better have your swap on a mirror ! With a different swap on each disk, if you loose one disk with active swap on it, you will surely crash the system. The memory on it will be lost. For the performance problem, I even use LVM for my swap ! If there is swapping, it's not normal., and performance will be bad anyway. I prefer not to swap, and to have a secured, not so speedy swap. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Kernel and Xen on an Intel Quad-Core Xeon E5320 processor
Le Tuesday 11 September 2007 04:05:08 GNUbie, vous avez écrit : Hello Gilles, [...] I already installed the linux-image-2.6.18-5-xen-vserver-amd64 on my server and decided to have a VServer and Xen setup. But, I can't find a good HOWTO on such setup. Is it having VServer inside Xen or the other way around? Vserver in Xen. In facts vservers in the same Xen virtual machine. My Debian GNU/Linux Etch AMD64 main system is currently running the linux-image-2.6.18-5-xen-vserver-amd64 kernel and Xen is already running: # xm list Name ID Mem(MiB) VCPUs State Time(s) Domain-0 0 256 8 r-201.4 Here, I see that you have only the Xen Dom0 running. From here you already can run vservers, as your Dom0 kernel is a vserver one. If you only want to have Linux vservers, no other operating systems, You don't need Xen at all ! Use linux-image-*-vserver-amd64 kernel. You you really want to mix Xen and Vservers, What I would do myself, is a light Xen Dom0 without the vserver patch, and a DomU specialized for vservers, with the vserver and xen kernel. Other DomU for other virtual machines, perhaps Windows one ore full virtuallized other distro... By not using vservers directly on Dom0, you'll keep the possibility of online migration of the Xen DomU. But, I must say, I nerver used vservers... specialy with Xen... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Kernel and Xen on an Intel Quad-Core Xeon E5320 processor
Le Tuesday 04 September 2007 16:42:54 GNUbie, vous avez écrit : Hello Gilles, Sorry for the late response to your e-mail. After some vacation, I more late than you ! linux-image-2.6.18-5-xen-amd64 linux-image-2.6.18-5-xen-vserver-amd64 This question ahas been answered many times on several lists, but perhaps not on this. So : Vserver is another virtualisation technologie (sort of enhanced chroot). It is not in the standard kernel, so you have à linux-image*vserver package. But, as it is not like Xen (para or full virtualization), it can be used with it. You can Have a server with several virtual machines with Xen, and in on of them (Dom0 or DomU), you can have some vservers if you use a linux-image-*-xen-vserver-*. Also, what is the difference between xen-linux-system-2.6.18-5-xen-amd64 and the xen-linux-system-2.6.18-5-xen-vserver-amd64 and which of these two shall I install? Install xen-linux-system-2.6.18-5-xen-amd64. Please advice. Thank you in advance. GNUbie signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Kernel and Xen on an Intel Quad-Core Xeon E5320 processor
Le Tuesday 28 August 2007 08:05:59 GNUbie, vous avez écrit : Hello Jim, On 8/28/07, Jim Crilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can't give each VM (or domU in Xen terms) all of your memory so at the very least you'll have to rethink that part of your setup. Then how will I allocate memory for each domU? What's the best practice for this kind of setup? As for the CPUs, Xen 3.0 and up does seem to support SMP domUs but I can't imagine it would be a very good idea to give multiple domUs all 4 CPUs. What can you advice then based from your experience? If you have this kind of machine, how will you design your Xen domUs in such a way that you can properly utilize all your hardware components with the optimum performance for your network services as well as hosting different web domains you plan to deploy in a production environment? Please advice. Thank you in advance. GNUbie Start simple : - 1 vCPU per domU, try to let one for dom0, specially if it manages a complex storage (soft RAID, DRBD, LVM, iSCSI...) - Let at least 512Mo for dom 0, spread the rest on your domUs depending on what they do. Good to know, you can change the memory allocated for a domU online ! Make some tests, load tests. If you know or you see that some tasks are slow because they can't be parallelised, add a vCPU to the domU. The essential here, is to know what your domUs will really do, and how much you planned. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Help on understanding noapic nolapic noacpi/acpi=off boot options
Le Monday 16 July 2007 14:08:35 Juan P. Rigol Sanchez, vous avez écrit : Hi all, I have installed (after several attempts) debian lenny amd64 on a new HP Compaq dc7700 pc (intel core 2 duo 6600 with integrated Q963/Q965 chipset graphics), but the system hangs if noapic nolapic noacpi acpi=off options are not given at boot time. I was wondering how these options affect normal operation of the pc (fan/cooling, peripherals?, performance??) (kernel 2.6.21-2-amd64 x86_64 ; with 2.6.18-4-amd64 boots using just acpi=off). Thanks in advance. Regards, Juan P. Rigol Just for info, I have deployed such systems. To keep acpi and the CPU cool, don't put noacpi noapic... I found that just one option was necessary : pci=conf1 Don't ask me what it does... maybe to force pci plug and play config one ? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Logitech QuickCam supported?
Hello. Is it possible to make the webcam Logitech Quickcam Communicate STX Plus work (the movie camera part) on Debian? There is a quickcam_messenger.ko module but it seems to recognize only the integrated microphone. Thanks, Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Logitech QuickCam supported?
Is it possible to make the webcam Logitech Quickcam Communicate STX Plus work (the movie camera part) on Debian? I've just found http://packages.debian.org/unstable/graphics/gspca-source I'll try that and hopefully I'll be able to answer my own question... Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Logitech QuickCam supported?
Hi. Sorry, I was definitely too fast in posting this. :-/ http://packages.debian.org/unstable/graphics/gspca-source I'll try that and hopefully I'll be able to answer my own question... There are gspca-modules-... available in unstable. [And, answering to myself: It works.] Best, Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Toshiba Core 2 Duo
Le Tuesday 10 July 2007 22:39:18 Seb, vous avez écrit : Hi, Is AMD64 the right Debian distribution to install on a Toshiba Core 2 Duo laptop? It is definitely a 64 bit architecture, but am not sure which Debian distribution is the correct one for this laptop. Thanks for any suggestions. Yes, this is the right architecture. Don't choose ia64 which is for Itanium. But, i386 will also work. Be aware that not all programs are ported to a 64bits environment. The most known of them is non-free : flashplayer. There is ways to make it work by the way, but not straight. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: squares in a 32bits gtk application
Le Monday 09 July 2007 16:59:15 José Alburquerque, vous avez écrit : Jaime Ochoa Malagón wrote: Hi list, I want to try google desktop but I want to try this outside the chroot, inside the chroot that shows correctly outside all the characters are replaced by squares. Any hint? Thanks I see this when I run a gtk application compiled for a 32bit system (one that I compiled myself some time ago). -Jose Yes, with 32bits binaries (on a 64bit system) it does not use the good GTK libraries. Even with ia32-libs-gtk installed. I have the problem with the VMware server console, here's how I launch it : VMWARE_USE_SHIPPED_GTK=yes vmware-server-console But thats's because vmware is aware of it. A general way will be to launch in a 32bit chroot, or to modify LD_LIBRARY_PATH sith the paths to 32bits libraries. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: debootstrap chroot failure
Hello. I cannot install a 32-bit chroot with debootstrap.. sid5600:/home/norv# debootstrap --arch i386 sid /var/chroot/sid-ia32 http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/ I: Validating Packages I: Resolving dependencies of required packages... I: Resolving dependencies of base packages... I: Found additional base dependencies: liblzo2-2 I: Checking component main on http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian... I: Validating adduser I: Validating apt I: Validating apt-utils ...snip I: Configuring sysklogd... I: Configuring klogd... W: Failure while configuring base packages. W: Failure while configuring base packages. W: Failure while configuring base packages. W: Failure while configuring base packages. W: Failure while configuring base packages. sid5600:/home/norv# Did you try to enter the chroot? AFAIK these errors are pretty harmless. You just go into the chroot and should be able to install whatever you want there. Best, Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to install Skype?
Hi. Here is what I did: 00. Downloaded skype-1.4.0.74.deb from skype's web site. 01. Tried to install directly with dpkg (with --force-architecture) - skype didn't work. 02. Downloaded the static version from skype's web site - skype didn't work. 1. Installed a chroot as per the instructions on https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html 2. [In the chroot] Updated /etc/apt/sources.list. 3. [In the chroot] apt-get update 4. [In the chroot] dpkg -i skype-1.4.0.74.deb - Errors because of missing dependencies 5. [In the chroot] apt-get upgrade 6. schroot -c ia32 -p skype - now it works! Thanks all. Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to install Skype?
Hello. I have to [1] set up skype on an AMD64 installation. I think there was a discussion some time ago on the best way to achieve that, but the Debian ML archive seems to be down (3 or 4 days already), so I'd be glad if those who succeeded could provide me with some hints. Thanks and best regards, Gilles [1] FLOSS alternatives were not discussed :-( -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to install Skype?
Hi. inside a chroot if you have one No I don't have one, yet. Which program do you recommend, and how should I invoke it, in order to have everything (dependencies etc...) set up as easily as possible? Thanks, Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: deciding on a new amd64 system
Hello. I'm also inquiring about hardware for a new system. Based on previous posts (with some replacements for parts I didn't readily found in the closest shop), here is my tentative list (with alternative choices): CPU Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 CPU AMD Athlon64 5000 RAM 1024MB DDR2-6400 800Mhz Fan Zalman CNPS9500 MB (Intel CPU) Asus P5N32-E SLI + S775 DualX16 FSB1333 FW GbLan MB (Intel CPU) Intel Mbo DP965LT-Skt LGA775/1066/DDR2-800/SATA/IDE/1394 MB (AMD CPU)Asus M2N32-SLI Deluxe-AM2/SATA/Wifi/DDR2-800/G HDD WD 320GB SATA HDD WD 160GB SATA HDD Seagate 160GB 8MB SATA-II HDD Seagate 320GB 16MB SATA-II CaseSilverstone TJ01-SI (No power supply) CaseAntec Atlas (TruePower Trio 550W) Power Fortron Blue Storm 500W 23dB Power Silverstone ST50EF-Plus (recommended) GraphicsAsus Extreme N7600GT Silencer 256MB Screen Samsung 205BW Screen Samsung SyncMaster 226BW (recommended) Screen ViewSonic VG2230wm Headset Plantronics 340 Microphone Plantronics Audio 15 KeyboardCherry Cymotion Expert G86 Black USB Mouse Logitech MX40 Laser Is there some reason to avoid some of the above HW (e.g. no linux support, bad components,...)? What would be the preferred choice (for CPU, MB, HDD, case, screen, power supply, fans)? Is it safe to assume that currently, an AMD CPU performance is equivalent to an Intel CPU at about the same price? Best regards. Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
Le vendredi 16 mars 2007 17:28, Hans-Ulrich Klein a écrit : Hi List, I installed Debian testing (amd64 port) on a HP ProLiant server and it really works fine. As a last installation step, I want to install some HP software offering remote control of the server's health status. HP offers its software as deb-packages for amd64. Unfortunately, the HP-package depends on libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2. The installation guide ( http://h20293.www2.hp.com/catalog_content/prod/product/install_page/T2812AA .html ) says: hpasm required library or package: [...] ia32-libs (for AMD64 only) [...] Note: As for hpasm 7.70 AMD64, you must force an install of i386 library, libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2, run #dpkg -i --force-architecture libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2_2.95.4-22_i386.deb Is this really the appropriate ways to install the i386 libs? It seems to be grubby for me. Thanks in advance, Hans-Ulrich As it's said, you have to force installation of the 32bits version. I had the same problem last week. Download the libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2_2.95.4-22_i386.deb from the 32bits repository and #dpkg -i --force-architecture libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2_2.95.4-22_i386.deb Unfortunately, there is no way to build a repository for amd64 with 386 packages. We can hope that when etch is stable, HP will give good packages, not depending on such things... pgpMC87hCqilF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 32 bit application
Le mardi 13 mars 2007 21:56, Gudjon I. Gudjonsson a écrit : Thanks Lennart for the answer Þann Þriðjudagur 13 mars 2007 20:14 skrifaði Lennart Sorensen: On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 05:18:23PM +0100, Gudjon I. Gudjonsson wrote: [...] (/usr1/bin/pjob-manager-real:11161): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Unable to load image-loading module: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-xpm.so: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-xpm.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory (/usr1/bin/pjob-manager-real:11161): libpjm-WARNING **: fail to setup icon: pjm-license ((null)) I get more or less the same results if I try to install realplayer into the 64 bit environment. Does anyone know the solution. The program should most probably be run in chroot but there is a reason why it is done like that. 32bit programs need 32bit libraries. It appears you are missing some of those. Since it can be tricky to have both 32 and 64bit libraries installed at the same time (at least they have to be in different locations since the filenames are the same) the chroot is much simpler, since there you can run en entire debian installation and manage upgrades and such using apt and friends, rather than having to manually update specific files for 32bit use. -- Len Sorensen I know that chroot is much more convenient and I use it myself most often. In this case I don't and it is a long history that I am not going to tell. The problem is the same as when I tried (for theoretical purposes :) to install realplayer in the 64 bit part of my computer. So if somebody has managed to make realplayer work in a 64 bit environment you may tell me. Regards Gudjon You can install 32bits libs. For your case, specially the package ia32-libs-gtk. pgpWZuxN6Jztl.pgp Description: PGP signature
NVIDIA driver ... fails to compile (again)
Hello. I use make-kpkg (from kernel-package deb) to compile the Nvidia driver (I've just downloaded version 1.0.8776-3 of nvidia-kernel-source). Then I get (after building kernel 2.6.19.1): ---CUT--- NVIDIA: calling KBUILD... make CC=gcc-4.0 -C /home/eran/system/kernel/source/linux-2.6.19.1 SUBDIRS=/home/eran/system/kernel/source/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv modules make[4]: Entering directory /home/eran/system/kernel/source/linux-2.6.19.1' CC [M] /home/eran/system/kernel/source/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv/nv.o In file included from /home/eran/system/kernel/source/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv/nv.c:14: /home/eran/system/kernel/source/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv/nv-linux.h:17:26: error: linux/config.h: No such file or directory In file included from include/linux/sched.h:57, from include/linux/utsname.h:35, from /home/eran/system/kernel/source/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv/nv-linux.h:19, from /home/eran/system/kernel/source/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv/nv.c:14: include/linux/nodemask.h: In function '__first_node': include/linux/nodemask.h:229: warning: signed and unsigned type in conditional expression include/linux/nodemask.h: In function '__next_node': include/linux/nodemask.h:235: warning: signed and unsigned type in conditional expression include/linux/nodemask.h: In function '__first_unset_node': include/linux/nodemask.h:253: warning: signed and unsigned type in conditional expression In file included from include/linux/list.h:8, from include/linux/wait.h:22, from include/asm/semaphore.h:42, from include/linux/sched.h:61, from include/linux/utsname.h:35, from /home/eran/system/kernel/source/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv/nv-linux.h:19, from /home/eran/system/kernel/source/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv/nv.c:14: include/linux/prefetch.h: In function 'prefetch_range': include/linux/prefetch.h:62: warning: pointer of type 'void *' used in arithmetic In file included from include/asm/elf.h:48, from include/linux/elf.h:7, from include/linux/module.h:16, from /home/eran/system/kernel/source/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv/nv-linux.h:51, from /home/eran/system/kernel/source/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv/nv.c:14: include/asm/compat.h: In function 'compat_alloc_user_space': include/asm/compat.h:202: warning: pointer of type 'void *' used in arithmetic In file included from include/asm/pci.h:92, from include/linux/pci.h:716, from /home/eran/system/kernel/source/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv/nv-linux.h:76, from /home/eran/system/kernel/source/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv/nv.c:14: include/asm-generic/pci-dma-compat.h: In function 'pci_map_page': include/asm-generic/pci-dma-compat.h:49: warning: pointer of type 'void *' used in arithmetic /home/eran/system/kernel/source/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv/nv.c: In function 'nv_kern_open': /home/eran/system/kernel/source/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv/nv.c:1806: warning: passing argument 2 of 'request_irq' from incompatible pointer type make[5]: *** [/home/eran/system/kernel/source/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv/nv.o] Error 1 make[4]: *** [_module_/home/eran/system/kernel/source/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv] Error 2 make[4]: Leaving directory /home/eran/system/kernel/source/linux-2.6.19.1' NVIDIA: left KBUILD. nvidia.ko failed to build! make[3]: *** [mdl] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory /home/eran/system/kernel/source/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv' make[2]: *** [build-stamp] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory /home/eran/system/kernel/source/modules/nvidia-kernel' make[1]: *** [kdist_image] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory /home/eran/system/kernel/source/modules/nvidia-kernel' Module /home/eran/system/kernel/source/modules/nvidia-kernel failed. Perhaps /home/eran/system/kernel/source/modules/nvidia-kernel does not understand --rootcmd? If you see messages that indicate that it is not in fact being built as root, please file a bug against /home/eran/system/kernel/source/modules/nvidia-kernel. Hit return to Continue ---CUT--- Last time I followed the same procedure (with version 1.0.8762 and kernel 2.6.17.7) it went fine. What am I missing now? Thanks and best regards (and Happy New Year), Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NVidia official driver
Hi. Is there a significant difference at compiling between using module-assistant and make-kpkg modules_image ? When compiling a kernel with make-kpkg and using the --append-to-version option, I couldn't make m-a produce a package that would install the module in the right directory (it doesn't take the local version into account). But... I often read this solution with module-asistant. Is the old way orphaned ? ... The old way works fine. :-) Best, Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Advice for new machine?
Hi. I should install debian on a new machine with the following components: CPU: AMD X2 4200+ MB: Asus A8N SLI Prem Graphics: ASUS EAX 550 Network: DLINK DGE 530T Keyboard: Logitech LX700 Is everything supported? Especially useful would be the driver names for: - the SATA disk controller - the graphics card - the network card (skge?). - the (cordless) keyboard Thanks and best regards, Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spamd segfault
Are you using a pre-2.6.14 kernel on an SMP machine? [There was a bug in the kernel.] Yes: 2.6.12-10-amd64-xeon #1 SMP Thu Dec 22 11:43:32 UTC 2005 x86_64 GNU/Linux Then, if it's that same bug, you should try and upgrade the kernel. [I had random crashes with anything that heavily used the processors (e.g. gcc and make), which didn't happen anymore with 2.6.14.] Best, Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spamd segfault
I'm watching a lot of spamd segfault in my logs. I'm using Debian SID.. Does anybody experieced this? We've got this on one server with exim too. Don't have a clue. Are you using a pre-2.6.14 kernel on an SMP machine? [There was a bug in the kernel.] Best, Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: qemu 0.8.0 in amd64
I'm sure there are a lot of other applications that uses usbdevice_fs.h which won't FTBFS anymore once this bug is over ^ What does this mean? From V.E.R.A. -- Virtual Entity of Relevant Acronyms (March 2005) [vera]: FTBFS Fails To Build From Source (Linux, Debian, slang) Best, Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing emacs on debian amd64
Hi. The package search on the debian site is down . What's the name of the emacs package for apt-get ? I tried emacsen-common , but it didn't work . And searching google didn't help either . $ apt-cache search --names-only emacs Best, Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How big will the 32-bit chroot end up being? What goes in these days?
- cdrecord/cdrdao plus whatever front end you're using to call them These and k3b all work on amd64. Best, Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No swap on my Debian Sid system
Hi. If you're using md for RAID-1, then the best way to have your swap partitions is to have one partition on each drive, *outside* the RAID array, and use them as separate swap partitions. There's little to no point in slowing down the system by RAIDing the contents of the swapfile -- under almost any circumstance in which that might be desirable, there will be worse and more immediate problems. The idea is that if one disk fails, and the swap on that one is corrupted, the system will crash... With the kind of hardware RAID that appears as a single SCSI drive, you obviously can't avoid RAIDing swap; but at least it isn't such a performance hit. Some people have pointed out that linux's software RAID is probably more efficient then the common cheap (fake) hardware RAID. Due to the way the modern /dev works, you won't see an entry for sda2 at all if /dev/sda2 has already been appropriated by some RAID array. Check your /etc/raidtab to make sure that the partitions you want to use for swap really are available. On my system (using mdadm): # ls /etc/raidtab ls: /etc/raidtab: No such file or directory Best regards, Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SOLVED: nvidia-glx removes x-server???
apt-get install kernel-source I always have the nvidia-kernel-source [1.0.7174-3] [...] nvidia: Unknown symbol register_ioctl32_conversion nvidia: Unknown symbol unregister_ioctl32_conversion It seems that, on AMD64, you have to use at least 1.0.7676 to avoid this error. Best, Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lm_sensors package
Hi. When i do apt-get install lm_sensors it reports [...] lm-sensors Best, Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lm_sensors package
Hello. So why do I keep having to modprobe them after every reboot? You have to add the modules' name to /etc/modules to have them loaded at boot. Best, Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem with sata_sil24 on boot
Hi. Is it possible to load the module before the boot up goes through fstab? Not sure why this module comes later in the boot sequence. Did you add the module name in /etc/modules ? What if I compiled the driver right into the kernel instead? That should be fine too. Best, Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Printer problem with cups
Hi. *Unable to send print file to printer: No such device* Device URI: usb://EPSON/Stylus%20C86 I had the same problem, also with an Epson printer. Unfortunately, I can't help, as I never undertood what was the problem; it just happened when the printer was switched off. Then CUPS couldn't find it anymore, even when it was re-regitered as a USB device... Did you try restarting CUPS? Even then sometimes it didn't work for me until I reinstalled the printer with the CUPS web interface. Best, Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [sarge] kernel source 2.6.14
Where can I get kernel source for 2.6.14 release ? Cf. below. I tried to compile from kernel.org, but it fails (I have no err msg at the hand), $ uname -a Linux dusk 2.6.14-vs2.1.0-rc5+g3 #1 SMP Sat Nov 5 18:01:33 CET 2005 x86_64 GNU/Linux ^^ from kernel.org and it seems, to me, that there is only kernel source 2.6.8 for amd64/EM64T. $ apt-cache search ^linux-source linux-source-2.6.12 - Linux kernel source for version 2.6.12 with Debian patches linux-source-2.6.14 - Linux kernel source for version 2.6.14 with Debian patches (Name change: kernel-source - linux-source) Best, Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [sarge] kernel source 2.6.14
But... now I have a problem with nvidia module (1.0.7174) :-( After a modprobe nvidia, kernel complains : Unknown symbol register_ioctl32_conversion Unknown symbol unregister_ioctl32_conversion What's wrong ? It doesn't work ;-/ You have to use at least 1.0.7676. Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: question
Hi. [...] I try with apt-get install firefox but is not list for AMD64. Maybe with # apt-get install mozilla-firefox :-) Gilles P.S. Lately, mozilla and firefox crash on many many web pages :-/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DualCore Dual-Opteron Board - suggestion?
Hello. anyone has a suggestion for a dual-Opteron board for Dualcore opterons which works flawless under debian amd64? E.G. the Tyan Tiger K8WE looks nice for me, but does it run flawless with debian amd64? I have a Tiger K8W (what does the supplementary E stand for?), and it has worked since February. Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia: Unknown symbol register_ioctl32_conversion
Hi. But starting xserver fails, dmesg gives error messages like nvidia: Unknown symbol register_ioctl32_conversion I think the reason is, that kernel 2.6.14 needs nvidia driver 7676, which is not part of Sid (unstable) for AMD64. Yes, you need to add #---cut--- deb http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/nvidia unstable/amd64/ #---cut-- in your /etc/apt/sources.list file and you'll get the possibility to download the tarball of the 7676 version, from which you can then make the installable module. My attempts were described in this thread: http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2005/11/msg00233.html Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: changed ownership of / by mistake...
The second thing I have noticed is that the terminal doesn't work. I CAN open up the terminal (gui), but there is an error message saying cannon open child process, and the terminal itself is unusable. There is no prompt and I can't actually type anything in it. (Still going in by ssh from a remote machine.) Maybe, check the files in /tmp. Some programs create files there, that should be owned by the user running the program. Best, Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: changed ownership of / by mistake...
Hello.
(logged in as root) and I entered:
# chown -R craig:craig /*
:-{
Hopefully there is a Debian tool to repair this... But I don't
know it. So better first wait for someone more knowledgeable
than I, before attempting the brute method:
Short of reinstalling the whole system as a last resort, I would
try to reinstall all the packages. The following command
dpkg --get-selections | perl -ane 'print $F[0], if $F[1] =~ /^install/'
SELECT
gives you a file containing a line that lists all the package
currently installed. You then cut-and-paste that line right
at the end of this command:
apt-get --reinstall -u install
and press enter...
[Note/WARNING: I did not test this!]
Good luck,
Gilles
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Re: How to install nvidia driver
Hi. I have an not so powerfull/new nvidia card, may card is FX5200. [...] Some other notes: the 7174 does not compile om 2.6.14, as one can see in the discussion about that (http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2005/11/msg00233.html), and until today I have not saw the new package version, 7676, on Debian's repositories around the world. This is the thread about my attempts (and I have the same card as yours). You can add this line: #---cut--- deb http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/nvidia unstable/amd64/ #---cut-- in your /etc/apt/sources.list file and you'll get the possibility to download the tarball of the 7676 version, from which you can then make the installable module (as explained in the above thread). Nevertheless, I still have that problem about having to plug a TV cable (although I'm not using the TV-out) because otherwise, the digital output does not send the video signal to the monitor upon X server startup. If you find a solution, I'd be happy to hear about it. Best regards, Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to install nvidia driver
Hi. next week I will try to install debian-amd64 on a new computer with a nvidia graphic card (7800GTX). Difficulties with the nvidia driver have been discussed at length for several weeks. You might want to read the thread that starts at http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2005/11/msg00233.html and references therefrom. You can then decide which method (module-assistant or make-kpkg) will best suit your environment (pre-compiled or self-compiled kernel). Best, Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: helix-player crash at startup
has anyone try to use the helix-player ? Yes. See: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=335943 Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Software RAID, LVM, and LILO on amd64 sarge
To continue this thread a bit, I'm curious whether the current state of boot loaders for Debian under amd64 is such that it is theoretically possible to configure LVM on software RAID on a multi- disk system without needing an isolated un-RAIDed /boot partition on one of the disks. It is certainly possible to have everything on RAID. Currently, I have the root partition on RAID1, and the rest of the system on LVM partitions, with the LVM physical disk being a RAID partition. [Although, when I installed, I had to first install the root partition on a normal partition, boot the new system, compile a kernel with built-in RAID support, install mdadm and LVM, reboot in the new kernel, create the RAID devices, copy over the root (don't forget the change the fstab file ;-), and reboot to get the new root...] I have a two-disk system. I'd like to create two RAID1s for this system. One of the RAID1s would exist across a /boot partition with the bootable flag set on each disk. Linux doesn't need this boot flag. [At least, it's not set on any of my partitions, and the system boots nonetheless.] When I've tried this, I'm able to complete the partition step, and then LILO is the only option, but it isn't able to recognize /dev/md0 (or /dev/md/0) as a valid disk or partition. I use GRUB. IIRC the problem was that you need to use the 32 bits version (which works fine); the 64 bits version has (had?) problems with command-line completion... You don't have to (I don't even know if it makes sense) install the boot loader on the RAID device. Just install it on (each of) the real partitions that make up the RAID disk. Also, unless you consider chain-loading, you should just install the loader on the MBR, of your 2 physical disks: for GRUB, it's just a matter of issuing setup (hd0) and setup (hd1) from inside the grub shell. Is there any way to achieve what I want to do (preferably from the installer), namely to have both disks have a bootable partition as well as running LVM on RAID1 for the rest of the system? I didn't try the recent installers. When I installed (February), it wasn't possible to do it all at once (hence the above procedure). Best, Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Software RAID, LVM, and LILO on amd64 sarge
It is certainly possible to have everything on RAID. Well, maybe not a good idea for the swap partition(s)... Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia (graphics) driver pain [SOLVED]
Could these be the cause of the strange behaviour: CONFIG_FB=y CONFIG_FB_CFB_FILLRECT=y CONFIG_FB_CFB_COPYAREA=y CONFIG_FB_CFB_IMAGEBLIT=y CONFIG_FB_SOFT_CURSOR=y CONFIG_FB_MODE_HELPERS=y CONFIG_FB_VESA=y Certainly possible. The nvidia driver is not compatible with the FB drivers, while the nv driver is compatible with some of them. Right indeed: a new kernel with # CONFIG_FB is not set and no blank screen problem anymore. Thanks, Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia (graphics) driver pain [not yet SOLVED]
Right indeed: a new kernel with
# CONFIG_FB is not set
and no blank screen problem anymore.
No, no, no, that's not it. It worked once (I think).
Then not. I had to plug the S-VHS cable back in. :-{
I'll have to go and ask on the nVidia forum...
Gilles
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Re: Software RAID, LVM, and LILO on amd64 sarge
Hi. Well, maybe not a good idea for the swap partition(s)... Why not? Speed issues? If the hard disk with your swap crashes, wouldn't a RAIDed swap avoid the system to crash? Yes, why not? ;-) It seemed like a good idea after all, and I've just done it: # swapon -s Filename TypeSizeUsedPriority /dev/md2 partition 489848 0 -1 Thanks, Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: m-a vs make-kpkg
On the other hand I have NEVER used a + in the append-to-version and I am not sure it is even supposed to be allowed, it certainly is discouraged to use + in the version or packagename in general. I always just have the append-to-version use dashes between things. From make-kpkg man page: [...] it may contain only lowercase alphanumerics and the characters - + . (full stop, hyphen, and plus). [...] Often I actually just edit the makefile to add what I want appended, so I won't forget it when building with make-kpkg. That's it then; here the Makefile begins with: VERSION = 2 PATCHLEVEL = 6 SUBLEVEL = 14 EXTRAVERSION = -vs2.1.0-rc5 No trace of the value given to --append-to-version: make-kpkg does *not* add it there (but nevertheless includes it in the package...). [I really can't blame m-a for not taking into account something that's not there. But a useful addition (?) might be for m-a to recognize the same --append-to-version option as make-kpkg and act accordingly.] Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia (graphics) driver pain
Hi. Anyway, whatever, when loaded, and after startx, my monitor says No signal... Well that certainly isn't a driver build problem. Maybe a conflict with an FB driver if you happened to enable one in the kernel. Could these be the cause of the strange behaviour: CONFIG_FB=y CONFIG_FB_CFB_FILLRECT=y CONFIG_FB_CFB_COPYAREA=y CONFIG_FB_CFB_IMAGEBLIT=y CONFIG_FB_SOFT_CURSOR=y CONFIG_FB_MODE_HELPERS=y CONFIG_FB_VESA=y Or X is configured wrong (very strange if it worked before though). The problem shows up when the driver nvidia is enbled instead of the nv driver. Maybe the X log file from the last run that makes the monitor loose sync. Does control+alt+backspace kill X fine and go back to the console? [I posted 2 log files about 3 hours ago.] Yes, C-Alt-Bspace returns me to the console. Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia (graphics) driver pain
Ehm, the message about only using first display, and then the following about detected tv encoder makes me believe your card thinks you have a TV attached, and that the TV is the primary display and that the reason your screen goes blank is that X is only using the tv output with the current config. Yes, but why? The oddest is that the signal output (to the monitor) is fine when there *is* a TV attached, and I get no signal when there is no TV connected... The other way around would have made (a little) more sense. Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia (graphics) driver pain
Hi. just move the module into the correct directory Done. But... # modprobe nvidia FATAL: Error inserting nvidia (/lib/modules/2.6.14-vs2.1.0-rc5+g1/nvidia/nvidia.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) # dmseg [...] [77883.520138] nvidia: no version for struct_module found: kernel tainted. [77883.528879] nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel. [77883.529287] nvidia: Unknown symbol register_ioctl32_conversion [77883.529349] nvidia: Unknown symbol unregister_ioctl32_conversion :-? Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia (graphics) driver pain
recompile your kernel with a less silly name then rebuild nvidia :P The name problem is solved: I used make-kpkg (which provides the local version string functionality, contrary to m-a it seems) to build the module. [I had to run make prepare etc. before invoking make-kpkg.] Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia (graphics) driver pain
You may want to try this. http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-amd64%40lists.debian.org/msg13971.html I've just done that (using version 1.0.7676-1). Now, the nvidia driver is loaded: $ lsmod | grep nvidia nvidia 4372492 0 But... When I start the X server, the screen goes, and stays, blank :-(( Gilles P.S. I have the following card: NVIDIA Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia (graphics) driver pain
I had a similar problem. Please remember, that nvidia-kernel and nvidai-glx must be the same version. Both are from version 1.0.7676-1. So that's not the problem... But I didn't install nvidia-glx-ia32. Is it necessary? Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia (graphics) driver pain
You are sure you used the 64bit version? The 7676 source was only in i386 archive... Right, indeed. Just to be sure, I downloaded again, from the amd64 repository. Rebuilt nvidia-kernel-source_1.0.7174-3_amd64.deb Recomplied the module, reinstalled, and... # modprobe nvidia FATAL: Error inserting nvidia (/lib/modules/2.6.14-vs2.1.0-rc5+g2/nvidia/nvidia.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) The relevant lines: [ 9272.404373] nvidia: Unknown symbol register_ioctl32_conversion [ 9272.404450] nvidia: Unknown symbol unregister_ioctl32_conversion Conclusion: - For version 1.0.7174, modprobe fails for kernel 2.6.14. - (from my previous attempt with maybe incompatible 32bit source) for version 1.0.7676, modprobe loads the module, but it doesn't work (i.e. the screen goes blank when starting the X server). It seems that I'm stuck! :-/ Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia (graphics) driver pain
BTW: In Kernel 2.6.14, the kernel-module can be built, but not loaded, due to an obsolete parameter in the sources ! I recommend to use 2.6.12, this work fine. But use 7174, 7176 and higher will not work (so it is for me). I seems that there is currently no solution (see other post). I can't use earlier kernels because of a bug which shows up in SMP Opteron systems and was fixed in 2.6.14-rc2. Should this be considered a bug to be filed against nvidia-kernel-source? Or do I just have to wait for a new version? Best, Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia (graphics) driver pain
why dont you get the nvidia-graphics-driver 1.0-7676 source debs from http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/ I got the same source (from a debian mirror). build all that, then go patch the kernel-source with the minor (although important) updates from the nvidia linux support forums and then build the kernel module. I'm not sure I understand. The kernel itself must be patched for the driver to work? This is not mentioned in the README files. im running 2.6.14-1 as we speak, using 1.0-7676 playing games and all sorts. i have had no problems building or loading. Neither do I with that version (loading problem was with 1.0.7174). It's just that the screen goes blank (No signal), but no error (EE) is reported in the Xorg.0.log file. Although, there are some worrying warning (WW) lines: [...] (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA GPU detected as: GeForce FX 5200 (--) NVIDIA(0): VideoBIOS: 04.34.20.13.00 (--) NVIDIA(0): Interlaced video modes are supported on this GPU (II) NVIDIA(0): Detected AGP rate: 8X (--) NVIDIA(0): VideoRAM: 131072 kBytes (II) NVIDIA(0): Connected display device(s): DFP-0, TV-0 (WW) NVIDIA(0): Multiple displays connected, but only one display allowed; (WW) NVIDIA(0): using first display (--) NVIDIA(0): Detected TV Encoder: NVIDIA (--) NVIDIA(0): TV-0: maximum pixel clock: 650 MHz [...] (WW) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode 1280x1024 (not a valid TV mode) [... many other warnings about not a valid TV mode ... ] (**) NVIDIA(0): Validated modes for display device TV-0: (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode 1024x768: 78.8 MHz, 60.1 kHz, 75.1 Hz (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode 800x600: 49.5 MHz, 46.9 kHz, 75.0 Hz (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode 640x480: 31.5 MHz, 37.5 kHz, 75.0 Hz [...] (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode 320x240: 12.6 MHz, 31.5 kHz, 60.1 Hz (D) (II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 1024 x 768 (++) NVIDIA(0): DPI set to (100, 100) [...] Maybe ths can ring a bell for someone knowledgeable? Thanks, Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia (graphics) driver pain
I have been trough all -rc candidates of 2.6.14 and all stock kernels from 2.6.12 with 7676 driver. Using only m-a a-i nvidia each time I upgraded the kernel. I've just tried that; it's a bit less comfortable for me because (as I indicated earlier) module-assistant doesn't seem to care about EXTRAVERSION and APPEND_TO_VERSION, so that it auto-installs the module in the *wrong* directory. So that it must be moved to the correct place afterwards. Anyway, whatever, when loaded, and after startx, my monitor says No signal... I think you should be a bit more spesific when yelling about problems with the nvidia-driver. I didn't see anybody yelling. The only problem I ever had, was when I (stupid me) tried to do a install with the package from nvidia. It took me ages to clean up the mess... I didn't try that yet, as reading the ML, warned me about it. So now I'm happy using the nice tool module-assistant, a great big thanks and a hearty applause to those who write this excellent tool. So please do the nvidia install the Debian way. Not all linux-systems are SuSE og RedHat, as nvidia seems to believe. I've been led to believe that make-kpkg was the debian way. It has certainly been around longer than m-a. There must be more than one way to do it ;-) Anyway, if you are willing to help solve my problem, please tell me what more specific information you need. Best regards, Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
nvidia (graphics) driver pain
Hello. I tried something along the lines of the recipe evoked several times on this list, namely: $ m-a build -t -u module-assistant -k source/linux-2.6.14 nvidia Somewhere at the beginning of the log file: WARNING: Symbol version dump /home/eran/system/kernel/source/linux-2.6.14/Module.symvers is missing; modules will have no dependencies and modversions. [Follows many warnings from the compilation.] And this is the end of the log file: [...] LD [M] /home/eran/system/kernel/module-assistant/usr_src/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv/nvidia.o Building modules, stage 2. MODPOST /bin/sh: scripts/mod/modpost: No such file or directory make[4]: *** [__modpost] Error 127 make[3]: *** [modules] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/eran/system/kernel/source/linux-2.6.14' NVIDIA: left KBUILD. nvidia.ko failed to build! make[2]: *** [module] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/eran/system/kernel/module-assistant/usr_src/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv' make[1]: *** [build-stamp] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/eran/system/kernel/module-assistant/usr_src/modules/nvidia-kernel' make: *** [kdist_image] Error 2 It seems that the compilation itself went OK (apart from the many warnings), but there was a problem in stage 2. What's the problem? I also tried with make-kpkg, without better luck: Module /home/eran/system/kernel/source/modules/nvidia-kernel failed. Perhaps /home/eran/system/kernel/source/modules/nvidia-kernel does not understand --rootcmd? If you see messages that indicate that it is not in fact being built as root, please file a bug against /home/eran/system/kernel/source/modules/nvidia-kernel. Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia (graphics) driver pain
Hi.
Try the advice in this post I seen on Debian User.
http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.user/browse_thread/thread/f126e8f271acbbb5/2b3371f32bd0729f?lnk=stq=kernel+2.6.14+prepare+debian+userrnum=1#2b3371f32bd0729f
I ran
$ make prepare
$ make prepare scripts
inside the kernel source tree, and afterwards m-a successfully built
the debian package for the module.
But... It was installed in the wrong subdirectory of /lib/modules.
$ uname -r
2.6.14-vs2.1.0-rc5+g1
$ ls /lib/modules/2.6.14-vs2.1.0-rc5
nvidia
Somehow, the APPEND_TO_VERSION (set to +g1 when the kernel was built
with make-kpkg) was not taken into account :-{
Then, of course:
# modprobe nvidia
FATAL: Module nvidia not found.
How to correct this?
Thanks and best regards,
Gilles
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Re: Segfaults as non-root user
segfaults that I see are reproducable. Are there any suggestions or workarounds? Maybe you can try this: http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2005/10/msg5.html Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Frequent segfaults in utilities with logcheck and kernel 2.6.12
Hi. I am getting regular segfaults in logcheck on a dual-Opteron machine with kernel 2.6.12 (config attached). The segfaults occur in utilities that access the disks, cat, mv, and ls, usually at these places: [...] The solution is there: http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2005/10/msg5.html Regards, Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ia32 chroot problem!
Hello. I tried to install an ia32 chroot on my system following the how-to instructions, but i've met this error: I: Configuring base-config... W: Failure while configuring base packages. This will be attempted 5 times. W: Failure while configuring base packages. This will be attempted 5 times. W: Failure while configuring base packages. This will be attempted 5 times. W: Failure while configuring base packages. This will be attempted 5 times. W: Failure while configuring base packages. This will be attempted 5 times. I: Base system installed successfully. is it possible to solve it or is it a bug? IIRC, this is caused by unmet dependencies (which debootstrap doesn't enforce). apt-get upgrade within the chroot should fix it. Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel compilation failure [SOLVED (probably)]
Hello. Obviously, I'm interested in finding out what's wrong with the system. Do you have suggestions as to what I should do to have the kernel provide a little more information in kern.log? Not sure what to suggest there. May have to hit lkml for help on this. Well, I compiled a kernel with debugging symbols just to find out that it wouldn't help in narrowing down the source of the problem. Only that dreaded general protection would appear in the log. Then browsing the latest kernel changelogs, I stumbled across this (excerpt from http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/testing/ChangeLog-2.6.14-rc2): commit bc5e8fdfc622b03acf5ac974a1b8b26da6511c99 Author: Linus Torvalds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat Sep 17 15:41:04 2005 -0700 x86-64/smp: fix random SIGSEGV issues They seem to have been due to AMD errata 63/122; the fix is to disable TLB flush filtering in SMP configurations. Confirmed to fix the problem by Andrew Walrond [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ Let's see if we'll have a better fix eventually, this is the QD let's get this fixed and out there version ] Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Right now I am in Linux dusk 2.6.14-rc3+patched+g1 #1 SMP Sat Oct 1 14:49:43 CEST 2005 x86_64 GNU/Linux Well, well, I've just compiled a dozen times... Without a single failure! So, a kernel bug it was indeed. Best regards, Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
bootlogd
Hi. I enabled bootlogd (in /etc/default). It worked once or twice, but in subsequent reboots, no boot log was saved, and at the end of the boot sequence, the bootlogd line indicates something like: Stopping bootlogd: failed! [Probably because it wasn't started...] Could it be that it works with some kernel and not with others? [I read something about that in the docs, but in my case that kernel boot parameters contain a console=tty0 so I thought that should have been fine...] Best, Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel compilation failure
Hello. Of course with 1GB ram I am not sure I ever hit swap at all, so it may not mean much. I also have 1 GB RAM. In order to make the system use the swap, I had to launch 3 concurrent kernel compilations (each allowed to -j2). Sometimes it works through the end. Most of the time not, and I get these errors (one for each compilation failure): Sep 30 17:13:08 dusk kernel: [ 2812.564576] mv[3956] general protection rip:2aaac80e rsp:7ffc08c0 error:0 Sep 30 17:34:27 dusk kernel: [ 4090.665852] rm[16259] general protection rip:2aaac80e rsp:7fbc1a70 error:0 Sep 30 17:39:35 dusk kernel: [ 4399.178030] rm[884] general protection rip:2aaac80e rsp:7fdc1a00 error:0 Sep 30 17:55:11 dusk kernel: [ 5335.154363] mv[7640] general protection rip:2aaac80e rsp:7ffc1560 error:0 Sep 30 18:12:47 dusk kernel: [ 6391.078104] gcc[19297] general protection rip:2aaac80e rsp:7ffc10b0 error:0 Twice, the system froze (while compiling). In those cases, nothing appears in the log. What do those general protection, rip, rsp,... mean? Obviously, I'm interested in finding out what's wrong with the system. Do you have suggestions as to what I should do to have the kernel provide a little more information in kern.log? Best regards, Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel compilation failure
Well... I'm completely confused now.
I retried a compilation, and got (in kern.log):
Sep 29 16:29:48 dusk kernel: [17767.440232] mv[32221] general protection
rip:2aaac80e rsp:7ffbfc00 error:0
As usual, so to speak.
(There were many of these, corresponding to yesterday's
gcc's segfaults.)
Stubbornly, I tried again (compiling 2.6.13.2 under 2.6.13.2),
and this time, it worked!
And again, 5 or 6 times, no segmentation fault, no crash.
Strange, no?
But, even stranger, I also tried to compile a 2.6.10 and a 2.6.11
kernel, and for those, I consistently get:
[...]
CHK usr/initramfs_list
UPD usr/initramfs_list
./usr/gen_init_cpio usr/initramfs_list usr/initramfs_data.cpio
gzip -f -9 usr/initramfs_data.cpio usr/initramfs_data.cpio.gz
gcc -Wp,-MD,usr/.initramfs_data.o.d -nostdinc -isystem
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.0.2/include -D__KERNEL__ -Iinclude
-D__ASSEMBLY__-c -o usr/initramfs_data.o usr/initramfs_data.S
ld -m elf_x86_64 -r -o usr/built-in.o usr/initramfs_data.o
/usr/bin/make -f scripts/Makefile.build obj=arch/x86_64/kernel
gcc -Wp,-MD,arch/x86_64/kernel/.process.o.d -nostdinc -isystem
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.0.2/include -D__KERNEL__ -Iinclude -Wall
-Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common
-ffreestanding -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -march=k8 -mno-red-zone
-mcmodel=kernel -pipe -fno-reorder-blocks-Wno-sign-compare
-fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -funit-at-a-time -mno-sse -mno-mmx -mno-sse2
-mno-3dnow -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wno-pointer-sign
-DKBUILD_BASENAME=process -DKBUILD_MODNAME=process -c -o
arch/x86_64/kernel/.tmp_process.o arch/x86_64/kernel/process.c
{standard input}: Assembler messages:
{standard input}:1059: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `mov'
{standard input}:1082: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `mov'
{standard input}:1608: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `mov'
{standard input}:1609: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `mov'
{standard input}:1610: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `mov'
{standard input}:1611: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `mov'
make[2]: *** [arch/x86_64/kernel/process.o] Error 1
make[1]: *** [arch/x86_64/kernel] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/eran/system/kernel/source/linux-2.6.11'
make: *** [stamp-build] Error 2
Between yesterday and today, I only did an 'apt-get dist-upgrade',
and another memory test (memtest) but didn't fiddle with the
hardware.
How to make sense of this?
Thanks.
Gilles
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Re: Kernel compilation failure
Hi.
Stubbornly, I tried again (compiling 2.6.13.2 under 2.6.13.2),
and this time, it worked!
And again, 5 or 6 times, no segmentation fault, no crash.
I spoke too quickly :-{
Seemingly, it was just a short-lived miracle. Now I have these
general protection faults at every compilation attempt, each time
at a different step, and not always for the same program:
Sep 29 20:11:10 dusk kernel: [31047.241928] rm[11316] general protection
rip:2aaac80e rsp:7f9c0fa0 error:0
Sep 29 20:21:16 dusk kernel: [31653.305200] mv[32625] general protection
rip:2aaac80e rsp:7ffc1680 error:0
Sep 29 21:00:50 dusk kernel: [34026.992832] mv[21793] general protection
rip:2aaac80e rsp:7fbc08b0 error:0
But, even stranger, I also tried to compile a 2.6.10 and a 2.6.11
kernel, and for those, I consistently get:
[...]
binutils 2.16 fixed a bug, which unfortunately whacks older kernels'
assembly code. I think 2.6.12 includes the fixes already.
OK. This explains the other failures.
But for the problem above, I'm stuck. This was suggested (on the AMD
forums) as a possible cause:
-
Also, I (and many others) had horrible experiences with the Silicon Image
controllers on todays motherboards -- if your system begins to use swap
during build and you use SATA drive(s), your paged-out memory may
occasionally be corrupted
-
[I have SATA_sil 3114 (BIOS 5.037) onboard.]
Also, other people seem to have the similar (?) problems, also with
Tyan Opteron MBs:
http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0506.0/0052.html
Is there a way to be sure it is, or not, a kernel bug? Or a hardware
failure?
Regards,
Gilles
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Re: Kernel compilation failure
Also, other people seem to have the similar (?) problems, also with Tyan Opteron MBs: http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0506.0/0052.html Another one: http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0508.0/0708.html Is there a way to be sure it is, or not, a kernel bug? Or a hardware failure? The answer to the above post suggests a kernel bug. And this one http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Kernel/2005-06/3314.html indicates the bug was intriduced in kernel 2.6.11-mm1. From the rest of that thread, it would seem that the bug was eliminated. But fail it still does... )-; Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kernel compilation failure
Hello. The first time I compiled the kernel on this new machine, it went fine. But now, the compilation fails with an error like: [...] CC drivers/char/rtc.mod.o CC drivers/char/watchdog/softdog.mod.o make[2]: *** [drivers/char/rtc.mod.o] Error 139 make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs make[1]: *** [modules] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/eran/system/kernel/source/linux-source-2.6.12' make: *** [stamp-build] Error 2 I've tried several kernel versions, debian source and vanilla. The error seems to always occur after this status message: Building modules, stage 2. MODPOST [...] Several modules pass the stage then there is an error. But each time for a different module (there was cast6, md4, ppp_deflate, rtc...)! [Then sometimes the compilation of the kernel completes but the fails for the nvidia external modules (but this is for another thread...).] Also there is the following warning at the start of the process: dpkg-architecture: warning: Unknown gcc system type x86_64-linux-gnu, falling back to default (native compilation) Is this normal? I remember that I recently tried to install the binutils-multiarch package (which I removed in the meantime). Could it be related to the problems I'm experiencing? Best regards, Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bad display on console (nVidia)
Hello. Having enabled nVidia framebuffer support in the kernel config, I end up with a console only displaying on the right half on the screen. Well, not exactly, as the end of a long line is displayed at the left of the beginning of that same line. [It appears as if the display is shifted to the right and the right border of the screen is wrapped to the left border.] Moreover, the start of each line (thus: about the center of the screen) is duplicated for 4 characters! $ lsmod | grep nv nvidiafb 58144 1 i2c_algo_bit 10312 1 nvidiafb i2c_core 25216 6 nvidiafb,i2c_algo_bit,i2c_amd8111,w83627hf,i2c_isa,i2c_sensor Excerpt from kern.log: [ 56.525583] nvidiafb: nVidia device/chipset 10DE0322 [ 56.525614] nvidiafb: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] [ 56.547567] nvidiafb: CRTC0 not found [ 56.551869] nvidiafb: CRTC1 not found [ 56.677038] nvidiafb: EDID found from BUS2 [ 56.677082] nvidiafb: CRTC 0 is currently programmed for DFP [ 56.677115] nvidiafb: Using DFP on CRTC 0 [ 56.677147] Panel size is 1280 x 1024 [ 56.677766] nvidiafb: MTRR set to ON [ 56.691895] Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 160x64 [ 56.691925] nvidiafb: PCI nVidia NV32 framebuffer (64MB @ 0xE000) Are there some parameters (which and where) to be set in order to solve this? Thanks and best regards. Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel compilation failure
Hi. [In the meantime, I did an apt-get upgrade which seemed to have solved the unknown architecture error message. Also, I think that last time I successfully compiled the kernel, the default was gcc-3.3 while now gcc points to gcc-4.0.] You cut off way too much there. It looks like the error occoured somewhere above that, or got lost somehow. Are you doing a multithreaded compile (using -j) ? If so try without it since at least then the errors might be more obvious. Also adding V=1 to the make arguments makes it show all the compile steps rather than the short forms. Following your advice, this is now the command I entered: MAKEFLAGS='V=1' make-kpkg --append-to-version +g2 kernel_image modules_image And here are the messages: [...] /usr/bin/make -f scripts/Makefile.build obj=drivers/base /usr/bin/make -f scripts/Makefile.build obj=drivers/base/power /usr/bin/make -f scripts/Makefile.build obj=drivers/block gcc -Wp,-MD,drivers/block/.rd.o.d -nostdinc -isystem /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.0.2/include -D__KERNEL__ -Iinclude -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -ffreestanding -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -march=k8 -mno-red-zone -mcmodel=kernel -pipe -fno-reorder-blocks -Wno-sign-compare -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -funit-at-a-time -mno-sse -mno-mmx -mno-sse2 -mno-3dnow -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wno-pointer-sign -DMODULE -DKBUILD_BASENAME=rd -DKBUILD_MODNAME=rd -c -o drivers/block/.tmp_rd.o drivers/block/rd.c /bin/sh: line 1: 2419 Segmentation fault gcc -Wp,-MD,drivers/block/.rd.o.d -nostdinc -isystem /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.0.2/include -D__KERNEL__ -Iinclude -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -ffreestanding -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -march=k8 -mno-red-zone -mcmodel=kernel -pipe -fno-reorder-blocks -Wno-sign-compare -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -funit-at-a-time -mno-sse -mno-mmx -mno-sse2 -mno-3dnow -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wno-pointer-sign -DMODULE -DKBUILD_BASENAME=rd -DKBUILD_MODNAME=rd -c -o drivers/block/.tmp_rd.o drivers/block/rd.c make[3]: *** [drivers/block/rd.o] Error 139 make[2]: *** [drivers/block] Error 2 make[1]: *** [drivers] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/eran/system/kernel/source/linux-source-2.6.12' make: *** [stamp-build] Error 2 Trying a second time, it stopped (much earlier) at: [...] gcc -Wp,-MD,arch/x86_64/kernel/.time.o.d -nostdinc -isystem /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.0.2/include -D__KERNEL__ -Iinclude -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -ffreestanding -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -march=k8 -mno-red-zone -mcmodel=kernel -pipe -fno-reorder-blocks -Wno-sign-compare -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -funit-at-a-time -mno-sse -mno-mmx -mno-sse2 -mno-3dnow -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wno-pointer-sign -DKBUILD_BASENAME=time -DKBUILD_MODNAME=time -c -o arch/x86_64/kernel/.tmp_time.o arch/x86_64/kernel/time.c /bin/sh: line 1: 4354 Segmentation fault gcc -Wp,-MD,arch/x86_64/kernel/.time.o.d -nostdinc -isystem /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.0.2/include -D__KERNEL__ -Iinclude -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -ffreestanding -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -march=k8 -mno-red-zone -mcmodel=kernel -pipe -fno-reorder-blocks -Wno-sign-compare -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -funit-at-a-time -mno-sse -mno-mmx -mno-sse2 -mno-3dnow -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wno-pointer-sign -DKBUILD_BASENAME=time -DKBUILD_MODNAME=time -c -o arch/x86_64/kernel/.tmp_time.o arch/x86_64/kernel/time.c make[2]: *** [arch/x86_64/kernel/time.o] Error 139 make[1]: *** [arch/x86_64/kernel] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/eran/system/kernel/source/linux-source-2.6.12' make: *** [stamp-build] Error 2 Thanks for your help. Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel compilation failure
That '2419 Segmentation fault gcc ' looks bad. gcc only segfaults on compiler bugs or hardware errors in my experience. Of course being gcc 4.0.x compiler bugs are entirely possible. On the other hand the fact it is _not_ happening the same place each time rather makes the hardware error much more likely. :-( If you can do make clean and then build it and have it fail the same place 3 or 4 times in a row, then submit a bugreport on gcc-4.0. If it doesn't fail the same place each of those times, start swapping ram, cpu, etc, until you find the faulty hardware. The fault occurs at different places... I already did a complete pass with memtest86+; it didn't report a single memory error. What and how should I test next? Do I just unplug one of the processors? Is there some other diagnostics tool which I can run? Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel compilation failure
Hello. What and how should I test next? Do I just unplug one of the processors? Well if you have multiple, that might be an idea. You could remove half the ram and half the cpus. [I have 2 processors, and 4 RAM sticks.] Is there some other diagnostics tool which I can run? Well gcc compiling kernels is amazingly good at finding unstable hardware due to the high cpu/memory/io load it puts on the system. Doing a make clean and starting a new compile after any change to the hardware and see if it makes it all the way through. If it does, you may have removed the problem hardware. Try swapping around hardware until you find out either which cpu or which stick of memory is causing problems, and if you are lucky, it isn't the mainboard. Fortunately, I had the kernel from the install still around. Under that (UP) kernel, I could compile a new SMP kernel (2.6.13.2). Booting with that new kernel, I then tried to compile the same exact kernel, which crashed the system (with CONCURRENCY_LEVEL set to 3, as well as without). [Not even segfault, just frozen: No trace left in kern.log.] Rebooting, passing the maxcpus=1 kernel parameter, and new compilation trial; this time it was completed! Am I right in concluding that the second CPU is the culprit? Best regards. Gilles P.S. Rebooting a dozen times I noticed, from the infos displayed during the boot process, that some filesystem was NOT clean (even after a clean shutdown). But the text is zooming past too rapidly to read which filesystem it is. And those lines don't show up in dmesg. Is there a way to get at this information afterwards? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD5Sum mismatch
Hello. I've encountered a mirror bug, trying to install the following packages: libclass-autouse-perl libclass-container-perl libparse-recdescent-perl For example: # apt-get install libparse-recdescent-perl Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following NEW packages will be installed: libparse-recdescent-perl 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 363 not upgraded. Need to get 123kB of archives. After unpacking 483kB of additional disk space will be used. Get:1 ftp://ftp.belnet.be sarge/main libparse-recdescent-perl 1.94-4 [123kB] Fetched 123kB in 0s (191kB/s) Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.belnet.be/debian-amd64/debian/pool/main/libp/libparse-recdescent-perl/libparse-recdescent-perl_1.94-4_all.deb MD5Sum mismatch E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing? The maintainer declines responsibility for this kind of problem, and directed me to this list. I did what was suggested in an earlier post on a similar subject: # md5sum libparse-recdescent-perl_1.94-4_all.deb ab7be2fc61a0e7f8fca232fac1fb8e03 libparse-recdescent-perl_1.94-4_all.deb dusk:~# apt-cache show libparse-recdescent-perl | grep MD5 MD5sum: 2033ad73707f602e0fdc0d23c3c946b8 So indeed there is a mismatch. 2 mirrors (ftp.belnet.be and ftp.nl.debian.org) have the problem. Who is able to fix the situation? Best regards, Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD5Sum mismatch
Hi. ab7be2fc61a0e7f8fca232fac1fb8e03 is the md5sum of the archive before it moved to amd64.debian.net. This looks like those mirrors never got those files from amd64.debian.net. The one on amd64.debian.net an other mirrors do have the correct version. This looks like a problem of the mirrors. OK; then how to make them aware of the problem? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
