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Re: Roll call for porters of architectures in sid and testing (Status update)
I have not been involved before in the porting effort but may be interested if there is a need. I have a few alpha platforms and ia64. Could someone describe or point me to a Web page that describes what is involved? I have a c programming background for a lot of years and am now a java software software engineer Sent from Samsung Mobile Original message From: Gasha ga...@pie-dabas.net Date: 09/20/2013 9:32 AM (GMT+00:00) To: Debian Release Team debian-rele...@lists.debian.org Cc: debian-po...@lists.debian.org,debian-de...@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Roll call for porters of architectures in sid and testing (Status update) Hi, I am an active tester (not always porter) for the following architectures and I intend to continue this for the lifetime of the jessie release: i386, amd64, armel - test most base packages on this architecture (every day tasks) - test arch-related things - test lots of ipv6 related issues sparc, powerpc - test base packages on this architecture (not every day) I also own SGI Indy (mips*), HP (hppa) and have access to HP Itanium (ia64). I have plans to do some debian on them, in my limited free time. I am not a DD/DM Gatis Visnevskis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-ia64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/523c0811.4060...@pie-dabas.net
Re: mktemp and diff orphaned?
On 11/9/2010 1:33 PM, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Hi all, I am running debian-amd64/testing. When I start orphaner there are two packages, which are marked as essentials. These packages are diff and mktemp, but they are below oldlibs. Can they safely to be removed, as they are meanwhile old? Or better leave them? Regards Hans mktemp is required; don't remove it. diff has alternatives, but there is really no need to remove it. It is still has lots of scripts that expect it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cda96f2.4060...@allums.com
Re: mktemp and diff orphaned?
On 11/10/2010 6:58 AM, Mark Allums wrote: On 11/9/2010 1:33 PM, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Hi all, I am running debian-amd64/testing. When I start orphaner there are two packages, which are marked as essentials. These packages are diff and mktemp, but they are below oldlibs. Can they safely to be removed, as they are meanwhile old? Or better leave them? Regards Hans mktemp is required; don't remove it. diff has alternatives, but there is really no need to remove it. It is still has lots of scripts that expect it. I may have misunderstood. Your system needs and expects the functions of mktemp and diff, but *those particular _versions_ of the packages* may be obsolete. Check out the equivalents and replacements using the apt tools or aptitude, e.g.: # aptitude why diff In my case, the answer is Unable to find a reason to install diff. or, # apt-get remove -s mktemp NOTE: This is only a simulation! ... Package mktemp is not installed, so not removed So, you may not need mktemp or diff packages. mktemp the command is also in package coreutils. diff is also in diffutils. These are the up-to-date packages. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cdaa9ec.6030...@allums.com
Re: intel i3 processor
On 7/20/2010 2:15 AM, Dean Hamstead wrote: There is 64bit flash bit adobe dropped it. It was always a alpha/beta status, never a release. They have said that 64-bit will return, but gave no indication about when or in what form. My personal guess is that there was only ever one guy working on it, and he's too busy. But that is just speculation. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c4554ae.8080...@allums.com
Re: libc6 and X11 seem not to work together
Norval Watson wrote: From what Hans reported, it was my impression this is related to the Xorg Radeon (ati) drivers, not to NVidia or something else ? Yes, my system (working) runs Nvidia drivers, self-compiled 2.6.29 realtime kernel Norv I have Nvidia GeForce 7000M and it is not working. I just installed Stable and everything works nicely. If I (just/only) upgrade my system to Testing then the X does not work. kernel 2.6.29.1-rt8-rt-200904211039 #1 SMP PREEMPT RT x86_64 GNU/Linux +++-==-==- ii libc6 2.9-26 GNU C Library: Shared libraries ii nvidia-glx 180.44-2 NVIDIA binary Xorg driver ii xserver-xorg-c 2:1.6.4-1 Xorg X server - core server I think the card is Nvidia 7600, system is current debian sid, but nvidia-glx might be one down from current HTH Norv The non-3D (default) nvidia drivers do not function properly with some 7600s, in particular, the 7600 GT. I must use another driver with mine. I use the nvidia proprietary blob[0], it works fine. Mark Allums 0. binary large object, packaged as a shell and perl script -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Bug#539278: lib32z1: not installable on kfreebsd-amd64/ppc64
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 01:00:11PM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote: In this case a Pre-Depends is overkill, a simple Conflicts is enough. Please find a patch below to fix the problem. Please confirm this with the amd64 porters. This whole transitions has been plagued with problems; the predepency was added due to breakage in the original transition plan. I'm not going to do anything with this without confirmation, this transition has been nothing but trouble. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Bug#539278: lib32z1: not installable on kfreebsd-amd64/ppc64
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 01:41:51PM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote: Note that this solution (suggested by one of the dpkg maintainers) is the one that has been tested and implemented for libc6-dev-i386. No problem have been reported so far, contrary to the Pre-Depends version which sometimes causes troubles to apt and aptitude. Given that and what you say on IRC I'll have a look soon. I'm very wary of anything to do with this transition due to the multiple issues with it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: How to install wine on debian/amd64/sid?
hend...@topoi.pooq.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 08:07:20PM -0300, Cavan Mejias wrote: 2009/7/20 Dean Hamstead d...@fragfest.com.au: If you arent able to fix breaks, you should use 'testing' which is currently 'squeeze' testing is generally solid enough but also bleeding edge enough for desktops. Ya, I agree. Exactly why I use testing. It must be possible to downgrade from sid to lenny, w/out a reinstall. Downgrading has always been a problem in Debian. The slow way is simply to change your sources.list to point to lenny instead of sid. As sid packages drift into lenny by the normal development process, your system will gradually become more lenny than sid. Along the way aptitude will probably have a few conniptions. The answer to that is simply to back out of any upgrade that causes trouble (using control-U in interactive more). The problems will usually sort themselves out in a few weeks. I think you mean Squeeze, don't you? Lenny will not be updated, other than some backported security fixes. You may want to downgrade in stages, first to Squeeze, then to Lenny. As Hendrick pointed out, it can be very trying of your patience to downgrade. Generally, you can do it by downgrading groups of packages, ending with the kernel and the basic system packages. It will be easiest by hand, but also the most dangerous. Creating and installing some dummy packages to resolve dependencies may help, if you stick to apt, aptitude, and Synaptic. (Remove them as soon as possible.) You can create equivalents, packages that supposedly provide some prerequisite. This may be more work than you want to do. You need to do this all at once. That means, once you start, you should not rest until you are finished. Otherwise, the system may self-destruct. This is true for essential packages that modify system files. You might be able to put off downgrading something like the GIMP. It may be desirable to locate backports of newer versions of programs before you start. If it were me, I would just do a fresh install. Good luck! Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: I want all my 4GB!!!
Bob Proulx wrote: James Brown wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: Hmm... I recommend installing memtest86+ and then seeing how much memory it detects at boot time. apt-get install memtest86+ This should automatically install a grub boot entry and be very easy to boot into afterward. I am thinking it might only detect 3G too. In any case this would be a good independent test. I have installed this packege but I can find neither a man-page of it nor the help information. How can I use it (I think that it works when system booting) and when (and how) can I see the results of this test? It is a boot time image. Reboot and observe the grub boot menu. Use the cursor keys to move down to the memtest image. Boot that image. Memtest86 will run forever until you stop it from running. It is an infinitely running test program. It is very useful for testing memory. But here I was interested in how much memory it reported and so you could stop it almost immediately after noting that information. Upstream package documentation mostly documenting building it is available in /usr/share/doc/memtest86+/README*. Bob I'm posting the obvious, but: Are you sure you have installed the amd64 distro? If so, then it may take some kernel boot parameters to see all of the memory, or you may need to check your BIOS settings. Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
RE: Where is the kernel?
On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 07:52:56PM -0600, Mark Allums wrote: The you say! Is this why I can't get X going under vanilla 2.6.28? Any word on the ETA of the fixing of the breakage? Well given the kernel isn't in unstable, it didn't seem like a problem in need of a fix yet. Now given I was thinking of going to 2.6.27 or 28 to try and fix my webcam and I want my nvidia card to stay working, it may just have become an issue for me so I guess I should go work on the next version and see when Randall wants to do something with it. What's the deal, anyway? The nVidia blob installer tries to make like it can't find the kernel headers, nor the compiled output. I guess we could consider packaging up the 180.x driver in experimental or something. It is a beta driver though and generally those have not been packaged up. Usually we just patch the driver to work with newer kernels when needed. Sorry, I tend to forget that it is a big deal to do that stuff. It's just as well you haven't packaged the beta. NVidia I think already has some later versions. My guess is that they will get around to fixing it once and for all for both the newer kernels. Thanks for the reply; I know you guys are busy and I tend to be a pain in the anatomy. (Sorry I am just now saying thank you, I have been out of pocket for a while. On the upside, I now have a new GigaByte Core i7 machine to try Debian on. I may try a Lenny install on it, assuming I can get a Lenny AMD64 DVD in a timely fashion. Wish me luck...) Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
RE: Where is the kernel?
Original Message Subject: Re: Where is the kernel? From: Sridhar M.A. m...@mylug.org Date: Tue, January 06, 2009 5:54 am To: debian-amd64@lists.debian.org On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 07:52:56PM -0600, Mark Allums wrote: The you say! Is this why I can't get X going under vanilla 2.6.28? Any word on the ETA of the fixing of the breakage? Not sure about amd64, but there is a patch available for Nvidia 177.80 which makes it compile under x86 and 2.6.28. FWIW, here is uname from my machine : Linux brahman 2.6.28-mas #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Dec 25 12:15:31 IST 2008 i686 GNU/Linux Regards, -- Sridhar M.A. GPG KeyID : F6A35935 Thanks! I will look into it immediately. MArk Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Where is the kernel?
Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Dear maintainers, just some questions What happened to the kernel higher than 2.6.26 ? Is the kernel on hold, due toe the upcoming release of Lenny? Meanwhile the latest stable kernel-version is 2.6.28 (and 2.6.29 is at work). Where is 2.6.27 and 2.6.28 in debian? I only found 2.6.26 as the latest release. Did I miss something? Cheers Hans It's not there, and won't be until after Lenny's release. Unless the maintainers relent and put 2.6.27 into Experimental. Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Where is the kernel?
Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 09:16:14AM -0600, Mark Allums wrote: It's not there, and won't be until after Lenny's release. Unless the maintainers relent and put 2.6.27 into Experimental. Well 2.6.27 was in the kernel experimental area for a while, and 2.6.28 is there now. Yes. Most users either aren't aware, forget about the existence of it, or don't want to mess with kernel experimental. And most of the time, they'd be right. The Lenny freeze is causing an exception to the usual rule. I personally think both kernels should be is the main experimental section, or even in Sid. But I am not a Debian Maintainer. Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Where is the kernel?
Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 09:41:26AM -0600, Mark Allums wrote: Yes. Most users either aren't aware, forget about the existence of it, or don't want to mess with kernel experimental. And most of the time, they'd be right. The Lenny freeze is causing an exception to the usual rule. I personally think both kernels should be is the main experimental section, or even in Sid. But I am not a Debian Maintainer. Given the number of bug reports the kernel packaging team deals with, I can understand why they might not want to make it too easy to get a hold of experimental kernel builds. Besides the more testing there is of the lenny kernel before release, the better. Exactly. That's why 2.6.27 should be more mainstream. To reiterate the thoughts of millions of right-thinking people, 2.6.27 should be the official Lenny kernel. Or at least be packaged alongside 2.6.26 in the final distribution as an alternative. Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Where is the kernel?
Robert Isaac wrote: On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 6:25 PM, Lennart Sorensen lsore...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 03:06:18PM -0600, Mark Allums wrote: Exactly. That's why 2.6.27 should be more mainstream. To reiterate the thoughts of millions of right-thinking people, 2.6.27 should be the official Lenny kernel. Or at least be packaged alongside 2.6.26 in the final distribution as an alternative. Well I certainly wouldn't object to 2.6.27 being the Lenny kernel, but I have no say in that matter. That would break all three nvidia drivers currently within non-free, so it is not necessarily a good idea for the people that rely on those for a desktop. The you say! Is this why I can't get X going under vanilla 2.6.28? Any word on the ETA of the fixing of the breakage? What's the deal, anyway? The nVidia blob installer tries to make like it can't find the kernel headers, nor the compiled output. Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Machine died
. Is there a recommended card (from the point-of-view of the debian-packaged driver support)? Thanks for the advice, Gilles Uh, 8000, 9000, 260, 280 is supported with the nVidia blob. For Debian-approved drivers, 7000-series. ATI drivers are open source, now, but have not matured yet. nVidia has the edge. Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Machine died
Gilles wrote:
Hello.
Three years and a half ago, I bought a machine composed of what I thought
were good quality components:
MB: Dual Opteron MB Tyan Tiger K8W (S2875)
Graphics: Asus V9520 TD (FX 5200) - AGP
Power Supply: FSP Blue STorm (500W)
RAM: Kingston KVR333 (4x256MB)
Ten days ago, I halted the machine after 106 days uninterrupted use.
Strangely, it didn't shut down completely by itself: I had to switch the
main power supply. [IIRC the last line on the screen contained
acpi_power_off.]
Then the machine simply wouldn't start.
After clearing the CMOS, switching on the main PS would (directly, i.e.
without pressing the power button on the tower) start all the fans, and
all LEDs are on (power, HDD, CD). But nothing more happens (no boot).
A LED display on the MB indicates FF. Removing all the extension cards
doesn't change this behaviour.
I also tried another PS but that one doesn't even start the fans, which
seems the correct behaviour (?) but I cannot be completely sure.
Then, we discovered that the fan of the graphics card had burnt!
Could this be cause of the MB not working anymore? Visually there isn't
any sign of other burnt components on the MB.
I sent an email to Tyan last Friday; they haven't even acknowledged
receiving it... And their web site warns that you shouldn't send a message
twice lest you want that they answer even more slowly. Really nice.
One last thing I wanted to try is to have the BIOS chip reprogrammed (in
case it was somehow corrupted during the problem, whatever that was). But
no one offers this service here (Brussels) and the reseller is not really
helpful either...
So, it seems that after less than 4 years I am obliged to buy a new MB and,
consequently a new CPU (while we are otherwise still using an 8 years old
Athlon machine!). And a graphics card.
So I come here for:
1. Suggestions about the possible cause of the problem. Is there anything
else I can do to know what went wrong (if not repair)?
2. Advice on what to buy (CPU, MB, graphics and RAM) since it is doubtful
that I will get any help from Tyan.
With the usual provision: Everything must work with Debian GNU/Linux,
especially:
- Audio: both play _and_ recording (on the ThinkPad laptop I recently
bought, recording doesn't work: The chipset is not supported by the
kernel).
- 3D graphics acceleration
- Network
And, are there makes that offer longer warranty?
Thanks for reading my lament. :-{
Best regards,
Gilles
I am thinking, no BIOS reprogram necessary. Power Supply is always a
good guess. I think it is time for a new system, but don't completely
give up on the old one. Build a new machine, and when it is up and
running, go back and see if the old one can be salvaged and put to good use.
Build the new machine using an Intel CPU this time 'round, whether it
was AMD or Intel before. Core 2 is your best bet, A Xeon for servers or
multisocket workstations. It is too soon to buy Nehalem, if you need to
buy it today. If you can wait three months, consider a Core i7.
Almost any wired network NIC will do. The onboard ones are probably
supported by Linux.
Get a 80+ PS, meaning a PS that is at least 80% efficient. If you use
it in an office building, or business, get one with power factor correction.
For a personal desktop machine, if 3d is necessary, nVidia or AMD/ATI
both will do. AMD recently had its fiasco with the midrange chips. You
may with to go with the red team (ATI) this time, until nVidia gets its
act together.
An Intel motherboard (I mean the motherboard itself is Intel) is
generally supported well by Linux.
This is general advice. For specific advice, often the enthusiast
magazines are a good place to start.
Mark Allums
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Re: task hald-addon-stor:2815 blocked for more than 120 seconds.
Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 09:05:42PM +0530, Vikram Vincent wrote: The following messages keep repeating at regular intervals and I am not sure how to deal with them or to ignore them. Any suggestions will be useful. Thanks. Vikram Vincent I have seen similar multi minute hangs on my Q6600 running amd64 with 2.6.26 kernel. I have no idea what caused it to start happening in 2.6.26. I am now running with nohz=off highres=off which seems to have made the problem go away. 2.6.25 and earlier never do it. It also seems to always be related to disk IO. I am seeing hangs due to excessive disk activity when Epiphany browser has been running for too long. I close it or kill it, and switch to Iceweasel, and the problem resolves. Of course, Iceweasel has its own issues. This may not be related, but it is a recent phenomenon. Since I switched from 2.6.25 to 2.6.26. Dual-core Athlon 64 X2 4800, 4 GB. Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image, now [OT]
Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 06:26:19PM -0500, Mark Allums wrote: A brief description of the Debian way is in the Debian documentation, if you have that installed. It requires quite a few packages, and it depends on the Debian patched kernel. If you use the vanilla kernel, you may need to use the standard way. I have used it on plain kernels many times. I have never seen any indication it requries any debian patches. make-kpkg doesn't seem to care. That's good to know. Although, I think that there is an issue. I get a series of 'modules.dep' file not found-type error messages early on boot. I have been wondering if it is something I have done wrong, or there is something wrong with the build process. The system still seems to run perfectly well after the init process completes. I only get that message when I build a custom kernel. A kernel image from sid installed through apt boots fine. This may not be an AMD64 only issue, thus OT. Am I missing something? Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:36:35PM -0500, Mark Allums wrote: It is hard for someone to package up something for Redhat, SuSE, Slackware, Debian, and so on. Debian is a particular challenge for them, apparently. Which is odd given it has by far the nicest tools for making packages. Making rpm's is hard and has to be made for each distribution. A debian package will often work on many different debian based distributions. True enough. Although that is not universally true. Ubuntu people should not use Debian packages, and vice versa. Isn't the current 173 driver version new enough for you? Did nvidia go and release 177 as stable already? I am using a(n nvidia) patched 173. Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
C. Ahlstrom wrote: The kernel has its own location for files so it isn't usually a big deal, although using make-kpkg (from kernel-package) makes it trivial to have your own kernel installed using the package system. 0. make mrproper 0.5 cp /boot/config .config 1.make menuconfig 2.make 2.5 modules 3 make modules_install 4.depmod -a 5.mkinitramfs 6.make install copy files to /boot modify grub/menu.lst THe only part that bugs me is the menuconfig. I'd really like to make a kernel that builds /only/ the parts my laptop needs, but I have no idea what comprises that set! You are missing a few steps. I have modified your list, a bit. There is another way, the Debian way, that makes it almost trivial. It requires the Debian kernel package and the Debian kernel tools. If you run gnome you can substitute make gconfig for make menuconfig. much better. You can copy the old Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
Mark Allums wrote: 0. make mrproper 0.5 cp /boot/config .config 1.make menuconfig 2.make 2.5 modules 3 make modules_install 4.depmod -a 5.mkinitramfs 6.make install copy files to /boot modify grub/menu.lst 2. should read make bzImage 2.5 should read make modules. Although, if you use just make, the bzImage and module are made in one step. I like to make them separately. Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
C. Ahlstrom wrote: Thanks! I'm pretty sure the modules_install target does depmod for you, though. It may do that now. Just like make does the equivalent of 'make dep' for you now, so you can skip that step. Anyway, the procedure is pretty straightforward and I no longer have to consult notes to do it. I missed an opportunity to try it the Debian way recently, when I did a full reinstall dang. A brief description of the Debian way is in the Debian documentation, if you have that installed. It requires quite a few packages, and it depends on the Debian patched kernel. If you use the vanilla kernel, you may need to use the standard way. Linux fluxster 2.6.25.10-ca #1 SMP Wed Jul 9 18:17:49 EDT 2008 i686 Yes, I see you are using a vanilla kernel. I usually can wait for the Debian package. Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
Lennart Sorensen wrote: Using the nvidia installer is a terrible idea in the long term. It overwrites files that the package system owns, and the package system will take them back someday, breaking the nvidia driver in the process. Just remember how broken windows tends to be. Then remeber windows allows all sorts of people to make 3rd party installers that overwrite system files in the install. Those two issues are related. Just say no to 3rd party installers. Thanks for that, I am forewarned. However, my point was really about the newest driver working well with the newest kernels. I am not a particular fan of nvidia, per se. (I would like to see them release some of their software as free and/or open sourece.) 3rd party installers are not as a category the problem; the problem is individual software developers not taking the time to do things right. This is a definite issue that Linux is going to have as long as there are different distributions. It is hard for someone to package up something for Redhat, SuSE, Slackware, Debian, and so on. Debian is a particular challenge for them, apparently. I do not run my particular setup as a production system. It won't cost me much time or any productivity to have to fix it when things finally break. So, I don't have to wait for a Debian maintainer to get around to packaging up the solution to my current problem. Your advice should definitely be heeded by someone who is more dependent on their machine being up most of the time. I will keep this in mind when giving out info or advice from here on. Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
Hi, I still cannot use the new 2.6.25 kernel due to this problem with nvidia module, even with the recently available linux-headers-2.6.25-2-amd64 and image packages. I'm starting to think that these don't work with my card anymore. If anybody has any further tips, I'd be grateful for them. Thanks. The kernel and the nvidia driver didn't get along at first, but the latest kernel patchlevel and the latest nvidia driver version now get along swimmingly. So make sure everything is up to date. Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
Seb wrote: On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:14:26 -0500, Mark Allums [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] The kernel and the nvidia driver didn't get along at first, but the latest kernel patchlevel and the latest nvidia driver version now get along swimmingly. So make sure everything is up to date. Thanks for the feedback. Are you referring to sid or experimental packages? Lenny/testing with a sid kernel, at my desk. Any 2.6.25 kernel that has problems with nvidia drivers was sid/unstable at the time. I had the problem here on a 7800GT when I moved from 2.6.24 to 2.6.25. I was patient, and they went away when nvidia released their latest driver. I'm using 173.14.09 right now, it's on the main download page for non windows and betas on the nvidia website. Works great. Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: laser printer that is very reliable that runs well under debian.....
Michael Fothergill wrote: Dear folks, I bought a Samsung ML-2510 laser printer a while ago and drove it under Debian Etch and now Lenny. It seems to have developed a fault of some sort. The manufacturer says that I can run diagnostic software under either Linux (so it says) or MSWindows that might give me a hint as to why it is freezing up. I don't think it is a paper jam. I could mess around with this but I am very busy. So very busy that it is cheaper in time and money to simply buy a new printer to solve the problem. The printer cost me $100 or so. If I spent e.g. $1000 on a printer solely with the intent of finding one that is very reliable that Lenny will drive well and smell malfunctions and diagnose what they are really well (better still the printer itself has a display on it that gives copious details of any error on it indepedently of the operating system that is driving it that anyone could understand quickly), what printer would you recommend? I am beginning to understand why people buy printers from Xerox etc. Regards Michael Fothergill My experience with Xerox is that they are overpriced and finicky. HP is not my favorite brand, but they do have good linux support now. They get credit for having some of the very best laser printers in the early days, although I can't say anything about today. Still I would give them consideration, since the linux drivers are mostly open source and mostly free. Or at least widely available, including Debian support. Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: C.P.U. suggestions.
Chris Wakefield wrote: Greetings all. I'm planning to build my next power machine, this time I may go with a Core Duo, but I looking for some suggestions and CPU stories from Y'all To my dissappointment my 'AMD 64 X2 Dual Core 3800' has been a ho-hum experience; don't know if it's the scheduler with the default debian compile that seems to effect the performance, but it's certainly nothing to write home about. .I actually found my original AMD 64 Processor 3200+ (the one with 1 MiB L2 cache) to be probably the best CPU I ever had and I think just as capable as my X2. So, I'm wondering about the Core Duo family and which is best for the desktop? (I've built about 3 machines for clients with these CPU's and they seem very snappy. I'm even talking about the 1.8 MHz variety). I'm also wondering about alternate CPU's as well and what suggestions anyone has about those as well? Any Suggestions? Thanks, Chris W. Make sure your BIOS is up to date, you need BIOS support to run a dual core CPU on the old AMD boards from around the time of the transition to dual core. Then look for an Opteron 185 on eBay. Almost the fastest non-FX socket 939 X2 CPU. Again, make sure the BIOS support is there. Or, you can buy a new motherboard and go Intel Core 2. They are seriously fast. Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which kernel will Lenny likely use when it is released?
2.6.25 has produced unbootable machines for me on both amd64 sid boxes I've tried. In both cases, the solution involved changing MODULES=most to MODULES=dep in /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf (and rerunning update-initramfs -u -k 2.6.25-2-amd64 or similar) but it didn't work out of the box. I didn't really investigate the details, but it took me a bit of googling to find that solution... It appeared to be unable to boot the initial ramdisk because it was too big, and perhaps it's an issue that both machines use the nvidia driver module, which is kinda huge (and doesn't need to be on the initramfs) but it's still pretty painful for people who expect lenny to be moderately stable. I wouldn't want it in lenny until some remedy or improved sanity checking is included. - M On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Karl Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lennart Sorensen wrote: 2.6.25 is a stable kernel, just as 2.6.24 was and 2.6.26 will be. The old 'odd number development' stuff would have meant development would be in 2.7.x kernels, but that hasn't been used for years. OK, I understand I had the odd even part mixed up. But what I still don't understand is why 2.6.25 isn't in lenny yet if it is stable? I'm thinking of pulling in 2.6.25 from unstable, but don't want to create other problems. How can I find the ETA of 2.6.25 entering lenny? (I think some of lenny is already frozen - would that include the kernel?) I would think that they would fix the 2.6.24 4G bug if that is what they will release with? Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 True wisdom is knowing what we don't know; True maturity is being comfortable with the idea of not knowing. -KPS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Apology - Re: ignore
Mark Allums wrote: test ignore Apparently some people object to tests of this nature. I am sorry for committing this offense. I will not repeat it. In my defense, I cannot in good conscience recommend GoDaddy or secureserver.net as an email provider, due to the way they handle spam. If you use them, you can expect to get many legitimate email messages blocked or bounced. I believe they are doing this to many of the debian lists' messages, including the debian-amd64 list. Service has improved some since I whitelisted the list server and the list email address, and added it to the GoDaddy webmail address book. Some messages may still be blocked. (It's hard to tell.) Be warned. Thank you for your patience. -- Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: kernel: APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)
Karl Schmidt wrote: Apr 10 10:54:02 poland kernel: APIC error on CPU0: 40(40) I see this every once in a while - no problems with the server and others on the web see it only on amd64. Any kernel gurus know exactly what this means? Not a kernel guru by any stretch of the imagination, but I used to see it on my 64-bit, dual core systems (nForce 4 mb) (running 32-bit Linux kernels). Also saw it on a dual-socket system socket for 370 Celeron.* With 64-bit kernels, the whole system locks up during the boot init stuff. I think it means your motherboard has a broken BIOS, usually. (APIC implemented badly.) On mine, I run with the kernel parameter noapic, which seems to do no harm. Mark Allums * Yes, I had one of the legendary Abit motherboards that did dual socket 370 Celerons before the Pentium III came out (and it wouldn't do the Pentium III, it had voltage issues.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hey everyone, GUI isn't working; I can't figure out how to configure my xserver correctly.
Lance Ferrer wrote: Im getting XIO: Fatal IO error 104 (connection reset by peer) on X server :0.0 when I try to boot debian. I'm new to linux and computers in general, so any help would be great. I have a BFG NVidea 8800 GT if that helps. If you need any more specs or anything just let me know. The newer NVIDIA cards still aren't supported particularly well by most Linux distros. I have a 7800 GT that won't work right with X anytime I install even a recent Linux distro in a box with that card installed.[1] (Haven't had the guts to try an 8000-series card.) I usually use a 6600 GT for installs, install the non-free[2] NVIDIA proprietary driver available on NVIDIA's web site, and then switch out cards. Works for me, although that is not really solving the problem, just working around it. And, it is more work to do that, extra steps and all. Mark Allums [1] Worked great with Fedora 8, though. But I prefer Debian. Doesn't work in vanilla Debian (or Ubuntu). [2] For newbies, the term non-free in Linux usually refers to the software being closed-source or otherwise encumbered by copyright or patent. The binary may be available at no cost to you, like the NVIDIA drivers, but they are closed source, hence non-free. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Graphics cards with Free drivers
Jo Shields wrote: On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 15:49 +, A J Stiles wrote: On Tuesday 08 Apr 2008, Dean Hamstead wrote: Please define most. (That's the driver I'm using on my machine at work, which is fitted with an older nVidia card.) I want to be certain that whatever I buy will work correctly with 100% Free software. SUPPORTED HARDWARE The nv driver supports PCI, PCI-Express and AGP video cards based on the following NVIDIA chips: RIVA 128 NV3 RIVA TNT NV4 RIVA TNT2 NV5 GeForce 256, QUADRO NV10 GeForce2, QUADRO2 NV11 NV15 GeForce3, QUADRO DCC NV20 nForce, nForce2 NV1A, NV1F GeForce4, QUADRO4 NV17, NV18, NV25, NV28 GeForce FX, QUADRO FX NV30, NV31, NV34, NV35, NV36, NV37, NV38 GeForce 6XXX NV40, NV41, NV43, NV44, NV45, C51 GeForce 7XXX G70, G71, G72, G73 The nv driver is alleged to work with 7000-series cards, but it has issues on my systems with a 7800 GT and typically, an nforce 4 chipset Asus motherboard. I have never successfully gotten it to work in that combination. The vesa driver works, but...meh. I choose to use the Nvidia closed driver because it works well and has few hassles. I have no reason to believe than Nvidia will cripple that driver in the future. I will worry about that problem when it happens. Until then, I'm happy. GeForce 8XXX G80, G84, G86, G92 -- Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intel Core2Duo (T7400)
On 11/07/2007 02:30 PM, Lennart Sorensen wrote: Well here is a randomly picked example: rceng02:~# ls -l /data/.chroot/debian-pure64/bin/ls -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 85536 Jan 30 2007 /data/.chroot/debian-pure64/bin/ls rceng02:~# ls -l /bin/ls -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 77352 Jan 30 2007 /bin/ls So /bin/ls appears to be 10% larger. On my Fedora 7 systems, /bin/ls is 5% larger on 32-bit than 64-bit: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ls -l /bin/ls ; file /bin/ls -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 99468 2007-06-13 10:06 /bin/ls /bin/ls: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, stripped [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ls -l /bin/ls ; file /bin/ls -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 95056 2007-06-13 10:31 /bin/ls /bin/ls: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, stripped [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ rceng02:~# ls -l /bin/gzip -rwxr-xr-x 4 root root 52672 Sep 19 2006 /bin/gzip rceng02:~# ls -l /data/.chroot/debian-pure64/bin/gzip -rwxr-xr-x 4 root root 60216 Sep 19 2006 /data/.chroot/debian-pure64/bin/gzip So /bin/gzip appears to be 14% larger. I seem to recall gzip also runs quite a bit faster on 64bit. gzip is about 5% larger on 64-bit (67120 bytes) than 32-bit (64116 bytes). Go figure. -Mark -- Mark Komarinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sr. Research Systems Architect http://ritg.med.harvard.edu Research IT Group Harvard Medical School -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: java plugin lenny
This is what I've done with etch, I don't know if it'll work for lenny. Note that there are sarge and sid variants to try (but no lenny) in the sources.list. After various frustrations with the latest Sun Java not having a plugin on AMD64, I just decided to go back to the blackdown java's older version that worked for me last year: I put this in my /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/blackdown/debian/ etch non-free deb-src http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/blackdown/debian/ etch non-free and then did sudo apt-get -f install j2re1.4 j2sdk1.4 j2sdk1.4-doc and I've been much happier. Of course, if I was developing applets and wanted do do it with a current sun-java that's happily open-source and everything, this wouldn't be so good. But for viewing web java content, it's fine. And I still have the sun-java5-jre stuff installed, too. I'm not saying this is the best or only solution, just another thing to consider. - M On 10/21/07, Alexandru Cabuz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello list, Does anyone know if its possible to get java plugin working in iceweasel, in lenny amd64 without installing a whole chroot? In particular, does nspluginwrapper work with java? If so how do I go about setting up the java plugin? It seems like I would have to install the 32bit java plugin, then run something like nspluginwrapper -i [path to .so plugin file] But I can't install the 32 bit version of the java plugin, sun-java6-plugin because apt-get refuses, because it's 32bit and my system is 64bit. I tried the linux32 wrapper, but apt-get still won't install sun-java6-plugin. I have sun jre 64 installed. [cabuz ~]java -version java version 1.6.0_03 Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_03-b05) Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 1.6.0_03-b05, mixed mode) So how do I do this? Has anybody got nspluginwrapper working with java plugin? Thanks for any suggestions. I am not subscribed, please copy me. -- Dr. Alexandru I. Cabuz Tel: +40 (0)722.478.168 --- Please no Word or Powerpoint attachments. Send plain text, rich text format, html, or pdf instead. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSI K8T Neo2-F etch compatible?
Hi, ich would like to know if the motherboard from MSI K8T Neo2-F is supported from etch on a 64-bit machine. This motherboard is not listed here within: https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/27/mainboards.html Thank's for your comments! -- Best Regards, Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: chroot question
You can also use something like ssh localhost to escape the chroot, although it adds a bit of overhead. - M On 1/21/07, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anton Piatek wrote: I posted this on Debian-user list, but thought someone here might have tried this already... I have a amd64 install of debian with a 32bit chroot for a couple of apps. This works great, but I have a question. Is it possible to have an application inside the 32bit chroot launch an application on my main 64 bit system? (e.g. a photo browsing program in the 32bit chroot launching gimp, which is installed in my main 64 bit system). I currently launch my 32bit programs with schroot and am hoping I can set something to make specific programs outside the chroot available... I cannot think of how this can be achieved, so any ideas are welcomed. No, you can't. Suppose your chroot is /ia32. Then, since it is a chroot, you can only see what's inside /ia32. /usr and other directories are not accessible from the chroot. Unless you someway make /usr visible inside /ia32, perhaps with a bind mount. You would also need other directories (such as /var) if the application needs them, and configure the application to use those directories. The same happens to libraries. If /usr is bound to /ia32/usr64, you'll need to tell the library loader to look for libraries there. Messy, really messy. What you can do is install the 32-bit version of the program inside the chroot, and it'l run fine. -- Sometimes I live in the country, And sometimes I live in town. And sometimes I have a great notion, To jump in the river and drown. Eduardo M KALINOWSKI [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://move.to/hpkb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem with resolving names with firefox 32 bit
It sounds like a resolve.conf issue to me, too. I had more issues with this than just changing resolv.conf itself, because I use the resolvconf package to automagically generate the resolv.conf file when I change wireless setups using ifscheme... resolvconf secretly stores its resolv.conf file in /dev/shm (after a series of confusing symlinks) so the solution I came up with (although in retrospect there are possibly some simpler ones) was to mount my outside /etc as /etc64 in the chroot, and the /dev and /dev/shm, all with the bind type in fstab, and then link the chroot's /etc/resolv.conf to /etc64/resolv.conf which points to /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf which is really /dev/shm/resolvconf/resolv.conf which finally worked. There may be a better way to mount /dev/shm than bind, but I stopped when I hit on what worked. You could also probably make /etc/resolv.conf a direct link to /dev/shm/resolvconf/resolv.conf and skip some of this mess... I think /etc/resolv.conf is not normally touched by dpkg, so I suppose that's cleaner (I did the /etc64 hack because I thought resolvconf stored it's files under /etc/resolvconf and I didn't realize it linked off to /dev/shm until later... but I'm gonna leave my setup alone in the if it ain't broke, don't fix it philosophy) good luck! - M On 14 Jan 2007 19:26:10 GMT, Jack Malmostoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 20:20:11 +0100, leandro noferini wrote: What should I have to look for? If you use firefox32 in a chroot, you should fill in /etc/resolv.conf in the chroot too! Otherwise, not sure about your problem. Can you access 216.239.37.104 from firefox32? -- Best Regards, Jack Linux User #264449 Powered by Debian GNU/Linux on AMD64 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: USB rescue/boot disk
-Original Message- From: Joost Kraaijeveld [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 September 2006 05:29 PM To: debian-amd64@lists.debian.org; debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: USB rescue/boot disk Hi , I want a bootable USB stick that will boot any machine that allows me to boot from USB: a Debian Live USB (and not CD). I have found a howto on the internet (http://feraga.com/) but that one does not seem to work for me. Is it actually possible to create an USB rescue/boot disk that contains a Debian Etch AMD64 or i386 based installation? Is there an image available somewhere (as the Debian Live Project does not have such an image (yet?) )? http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/179 Thank you, Mark Adrian Coetser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tux-edo.co.za, http://www.thummb.com cel: +27 76 527 8789 tel: +27 11 805 2076 fax: +27 11 805 2330 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: chroot with NIS
On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 11:35:52AM +0200, Bernd Schubert wrote: for us it was just sufficient to bind mount /var/yp into the chroot environment. This should be the only unusual thing that is required. The ypbind daemon maintians state in this directory which tells applications that need to get information from the NIS server where to look. Everything else works over the network. Of course, you need to adjust the chroots /etc/passwd, /etc/group and /etc/nssswitch.conf. You shouldn't need to update nsswitch.conf for normal password access. -- You grabbed my hand and we fell into it, like a daydream - or a fever. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sid-ia32 chroot network access.
On 05 Jun 2006, Chris Wakefield wrote: Recently, while trying to set up email configuration with OO 2.0, I was reminded that I don't have network access from my chroot anymore. When originally I set it up, it had network access, I used to update upgrade the packages from time to time. Does anyone have any idea why this would have failed? Make sure you have /proc mounted within your chroot. If ifconfig shows your interface with an IP address, make sure /etc/resolv.conf inside your chroot is also accurate. -- Mark Nippere-contacts: 832 Tanglewood Drive[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bryan, Texas 77802-4013 http://nipsy.bitgnome.net/ (979)575-3193 AIM/Yahoo: texasnipsy ICQ: 66971617 -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GG/IT d- s++:+ a- C++$ UBL$ P---+++ L+++$ !E--- W++(--) N+ o K++ w(---) O++ M V(--) PS+++(+) PE(--) Y+ PGP t+ 5 X R tv b+++@ DI+(++) D+ G e h r++ y+(**) --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ---begin random quote of the moment--- There's madness in my methods. -- random sig seen on /. by Tough Love (215404) end random quote of the moment -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Installer error: Failure trying to run: chroot /target mount -tproc proc /proc
I independently encountered this same error. And coincidentally, I also encountered it trying to do both a RAID install and a non-RAID install (though my RAID configuration was different). I also encountered it using both the testing/etch amd64 beta2 businesscard image and the testing/etch amd64 daily businesscard image. I used the debian.csail.mit.edu mirror. (When I used the mirror at arizona.edu it was broken worse: it couldn't find packages like dselect and dpkg.) I can't do a Sarge installl and dist-upgrade from there because Sarge doesn't have the needed drivers. (My machine is an SN25P. I tried Sarge amd64 with the 31r0a businesscard installer but it can't configure the ethernet as I believe that it is missing the nVidia CK804 Ethernet Controller driver.) I didn't write down or save the installl logs for the above error. I currently have etch i386 installed but I would much prefer to have etch amd64 installed. If it would help anybody debug the problem, I would be willing to wipe away my i386 install, do an amd64 install just to get the install logs, and then reinstall i386 until amd64 is fixed. But I'd like to do that only if it would really help the developers fix this issue. If someone already knows the cause of the problem, then there is no need for me to go through the effort of install/reinstall. Thanks in advance and let me know, Jeff ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.6.16 and nvidia?
On 23 Mar 2006, Lars Schimmer wrote: I grabbed latest 2.6.16 kernel source today from experimental and tried to compile the available nvidia kernel module. I got: usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv/nv-linux.h:535:2: #error vmap() appears to be unavailable in this kernel! /usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv/nv-linux.h:715:2: warning: #warning conftest.sh failed, assuming remap_page_range(4)! Anyone has a hint for me? Check: --- http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=357992 for my patch to the Debian package. -- Mark Nippere-contacts: 832 Tanglewood Drive[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bryan, Texas 77802-4013 http://nipsy.bitgnome.net/ (979)575-3193 AIM/Yahoo: texasnipsy ICQ: 66971617 -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GG/IT d- s++:+ a- C++$ UBL$ P---+++ L+++$ !E--- W++(--) N+ o K++ w(---) O++ M V(--) PS+++(+) PE(--) Y+ PGP t+ 5 X R tv b+++@ DI+(++) D+ G e h r++ y+(**) --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ---begin random quote of the moment--- If you're not on somebody's shit list, you're not doing anything worthwhile. end random quote of the moment -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mirroring the AMD pool
On 07 Mar 2006, Steven Dobson wrote: I am thinking about mirroring the AMD64 archive and was wondering how much space was required. Mine weighs in around 42GB right now. But as was pointed out, this will change once amd64 is integrated into the actual Debian project. And since the announcement was made on the mirror list recently that debian-all would start including things for amd64, it seems like this may not be too far down the road. -- Mark Nippere-contacts: 832 Tanglewood Drive[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bryan, Texas 77802-4013 http://nipsy.bitgnome.net/ (979)575-3193 AIM/Yahoo: texasnipsy ICQ: 66971617 -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GG/IT d- s++:+ a- C++$ UBL$ P---+++ L+++$ !E--- W++(--) N+ o K++ w(---) O++ M V(--) PS+++(+) PE(--) Y+ PGP t+ 5 X R tv b+++@ DI+(++) D+ G e h r++ y+(**) --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ---begin random quote of the moment--- Well, I too worry for all young lovers. The darkness is not the light, my child, and there are lights. You are one of the lights, dear Mina, the light of all light. -- Professor Abraham van Helsing, Bram Stoker's Dracula, 1992 end random quote of the moment -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: chroot instructions
Jo Shields wrote: Install Sarge, not Sid. Sid is rarely installable. You can try a dist-upgrade later. Thanks, that worked great. I even got the thing working with wine... mostly. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem: fglrx-driver + X.ORG.6.9.0
On 21 Feb 2006, Lennart Sorensen wrote: I would personally never accept any machine with an ati video chip in it until some day when ati writes working drivers. It would be a very bad exchange to make. it was one of the few requirements when we got my wifes laptop. The video had to be nvidia, and the cpu had to be an athlon 64. I couldn't agree more. The nvidia driver has been stable for me for years now and I was happy to see this trend continue with x86-64. I just replaced one ATI X850XT PE with a 7800GS for exactly this reason. I was still having to use hexedit for crying out loud to modify the ATI drivers so they would recognize my non-ATI branded X850!? I mean, it wasn't terribly difficult, but come on, that's a couple of seconds to fix on their end and it persisted across several driver releases in spite of it being reported as a bug to the developers. Whatever, I'm more curious which laptop you found with an Athlon64 and an nvidia chipset/video chip!? I've been looking around for such a thing and it seems all I can find are Turion's with ATI chipsets. -- Mark Nippere-contacts: 832 Tanglewood Drive[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bryan, Texas 77802-4013 http://nipsy.bitgnome.net/ (979)575-3193 AIM/Yahoo: texasnipsy ICQ: 66971617 -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GG/IT d- s++:+ a- C++$ UBL$ P---+++ L+++$ !E--- W++(--) N+ o K++ w(---) O++ M V(--) PS+++(+) PE(--) Y+ PGP t+ 5 X R tv b+++@ DI+(++) D+ G e h r++ y+(**) --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ---begin random quote of the moment--- I never let my schooling get in the way of my education. -- Mark Twain end random quote of the moment -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to get a new version of 'unrar' into the official repository?
On 13 Feb 2006, Max wrote: On 2/13/06, Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The maintainer can't really do anything about this; it's up to the AMD64 porters. There's no automatic building for non-free, because licenses may not permit it etc. OK, then how to draw attention of AMD64 porters to this problem? I thought the bugreport would do that, but it did not. Well as Hamish stated, the license may not permit the AMD64 people to distribute the package. The current solution is to include deb-src lines for Debian non-free from official Debian mirrors and build the package yourself. From my experience, package maintainers are willing to work with bug reports for AMD64 when talking about actual bugs in the packages. This will at least allow you to continue to grab packages via 'apt-get source' and build them locally. The long term solution of course is for some folks to help out with the unrar-free package and get it working on 64-bit platforms (and support RAR version 3 ultimately). Please note that I am in no way affiliated with the AMD64 project or Debian itself (although I do provide mirrors for both). If at some point AMD64 officially is included under the Debian umbrella, it might become possible to distribute non-free also. But I'm sure some Debian purists would like to purge the entire non-free branch in general, and I can't say I disagree too much with them. However, being entirely practical for a moment, I too have built the AMD64 version of unrar-nonfree for myself via 'apt-get source ...; fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage' because people are still distributing RAR's and I still need to unpack them. :) It's not a perfect world unfortunately. -- Mark Nippere-contacts: 832 Tanglewood Drive[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bryan, Texas 77802-4013 http://nipsy.bitgnome.net/ (979)575-3193 AIM/Yahoo: texasnipsy ICQ: 66971617 -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GG/IT d- s++:+ a- C++$ UBL$ P---+++ L+++$ !E--- W++(--) N+ o K++ w(---) O++ M V(--) PS+++(+) PE(--) Y+ PGP t+ 5 X R tv b+++@ DI+(++) D+ G e h r++ y+(**) --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ---begin random quote of the moment--- The ships hung in the sky in much the same way that bricks don't. -- Douglas Adams end random quote of the moment -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Unable to eject cdrom???
Usually it means that something is still accessing the mount point, you could try Bash#lsof | grep /cdrom/mountpoint To see what is still accessing the cd/dvd Thank you, Mark Adrian Coetser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tux-edo.co.za, http://www.thummb.com cel: +27 76 527 8789 tel: +27 11 805 2076 fax: +27 11 805 2330 -Original Message- From: Joost Kraaijeveld [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 February 2006 03:16 PM To: Debian-Amd64 Subject: Unable to eject cdrom??? Hi, Intermittently I am unable to eject my dvd/cdrom. Is there a way to determine whether Linux is refusing to eject the dvd/cdrom or if it is a hardware related problem? -- Groeten, Joost Kraaijeveld Askesis B.V. Molukkenstraat 14 6524NB Nijmegen tel: 024-3888063 / 06-51855277 fax: 024-3608416 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.askesis.nl -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: separate firefox processes (was Re: segmentation fault with firefox 1.5 after apt-get upgrade yesterday)
Mark Montague [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: SUMMARY: I want to run a second firefox process in my 32bit chroot, without it just sending a remote command to open a new window from my 64-bit firefox. This was possible with script-fu until recently, but now I can't figure out how to make firefox-bin ignore another firefox on the same X display. After poking around the source code, I found a solution: env MOZ_NO_REMOTE=1 do_dchroot_run firefox -P secondary where do_dchroot_run is similar to do_dchroot in the faq, but runs its argument: #!/bin/sh com=$1 shift exec /usr/bin/dchroot -c ia32 -d $(basename $com) $@ Of course, you need to create the secondary profile first-- if you're running the same profile as the 64bit firefox, it pops up a complaint window... if anyone knows a way to deal with that, I'm still interested, but at least I'm now at the this is a pain level rather than this is driving me nuts. I think I'll file a wishlist bug for the debian package to add a -noremote flag to the firefox-runner (installed as /usr/bin/firefox) script that sets MOZ_NO_REMOTE. - M -- Mark Monty Montague | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | I don't do Windows(tm) If a tree falls when there's no one observing, does its wave function collapse? URL:http://www.gg.caltech.edu/~monty/monty.shtml X-GNUPG-Fingerprint: E1E3 E513 3687 94E3 5C61 C97B CBC7 2CA6 01B1 F0A7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can I use the apps running free Java???
Hi, On Thu, 2006-01-26 at 10:38 -0500, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 09:32:30AM +0100, Joost Kraaijeveld wrote: Is it possible to run the following combination of applications on a Debian AMD64 Etch installation, using nothing but free software (I know it can using Sun's SDK, because that is what I am running now): - Java 1.5 I am not aware of any free java implementation that matches java 1.5 yet. I know many doing 1.3, and I think a few might do 1.4 by now. Those based on GNU Classpath are close to full 1.4: http://developer.classpath.org/support/ (roadmap) And we are working on full 1.5 support. Some nice progress can be seen: http://gnu.wildebeest.org/diary/index.php?p=139 If that is possible, are there (pointers to) any known problems? Well don't know. I know java is best avoided. :) Yes :) But please do try to help out with the free replacements for those that did fell into the proprietary java trap! Cheers, Mark -- Escape the Java Trap with GNU Classpath! http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/java-trap.html Join the community at http://planet.classpath.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
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RE: Is there a known problem with formatting ext3 partitions on AMD-64
I have done quite a few installations onto different hardware/storage devices and have only had one issue quite recently using an intel (megaraid) SATA controller and that was hardware related, I could see the logical raid 5 device as /dev/sda and I could partition it but when doing a mke2fs -j /dev/sda1 right at the end of creating the ext3 filesystem it would kernel panic. Thank you, Mark Adrian Coetser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tux-edo.co.za, http://www.thummb.com cel: +27 76 527 8789 tel: +27 11 805 2076 fax: +27 11 805 2330 -Original Message- From: David Goodenough [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 November 2005 04:42 PM To: debian-amd64@lists.debian.org Subject: Is there a known problem with formatting ext3 partitions on AMD-64 I have a machine I am trying to install Debian on. It is an AMD-64 and has a DPT RAID card. The disks appear on the I2O bus. The Debian installer recognises them (once I have told it to load the right driver), and partitions them, but there is a problem when it comes to formatting them for EXT-3. Either through the installer, or manually on VC2, the format seems to go OK, but when I come to mount it, mount complains of an invalid parameter. The manual mount command I tried was:- mount -t ext3 /dev/i2o/hda/part1 /target /target exists, as does the /dev/i2o/hda/part1. The I2O maintainer is a bit confused as to why the disk is not called /dev/i2o/hda1, but that appears to be a Debianism. I also tried putting a small IDE drive on this box, and then I tried to format it using the installer, and that hung at 100%. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: lockup at boot with kernel 2.6.14...
On 10 Nov 2005, Giacomo Mulas wrote: the ehci_hcd module. I did not even file a bug report yet, since I don't quite understand whether this is a kernel or a udev issue. Not much of a help maybe, but I'd try it without udev entirely. I recall people using udev had problems with a recent kernel version. It would be interesting to know if the problem happens at all without udev in the way. -- Mark Nippere-contacts: 832 Tanglewood Drive[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bryan, Texas 77802-4013 http://nipsy.bitgnome.net/ (979)575-3193 AIM/Yahoo: texasnipsy ICQ: 66971617 -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GG/IT d- s++:+ a- C++$ UBL$ P---+++ L+++$ !E--- W++(--) N+ o K++ w(---) O++ M V(--) PS+++(+) PE(--) Y+ PGP t+ 5 X R tv b+++@ DI+(++) D+ G e h r++ y+(**) --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ---begin random quote of the moment--- In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. end random quote of the moment -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mirror list
On 30 Oct 2005, lordSauron wrote: Cool. The initial rsync is done. I'm pulling from debian.csail.mit.edu currently twice a day. I'll set up to be a push server as soon as our networking group opens 22/tcp through the campus firewall. The URL is: --- http://mirror.tamu.edu/debian-amd64/ down/768Kbps up cable connection at home. I think we currently pay around $120,000USD for the OC-12 at work. A month or a year? That's an insane connection rate.. you've probably got a fibre LAN going in the building, right? Otherwise you'd be somewhat disabled by anything less than gigabit ethernet. They'll let you host that at your workplace though... That is per year. We have several pieces of fiber from our campus to Verizon (local phone provider). OC circuits use a different frame type separate from ethernet (see SONET/SDH information at Wikipedia if you want more information). We have a lot more than just data running across the fiber to the telco. Yes, Texas would be in my neck of the woods (I'm in California, so not *that* close, but closer than all the many German mirrors). I'm not sure if you were aware of debian.csail.mit.edu previously, but it should have been faster than the European mirrors for you. Anyway, try it or mine and see if things are better. -- Mark Nippere-contacts: 832 Tanglewood Drive[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bryan, Texas 77802-4013 http://nipsy.bitgnome.net/ (979)575-3193 AIM/Yahoo: texasnipsy ICQ: 66971617 -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GG/IT d- s++:+ a- C++$ UBL$ P---+++ L+++$ !E--- W++(--) N+ o K++ w(---) O++ M V(--) PS+++(+) PE(--) Y+ PGP t+ 5 X R tv b+++@ DI+(++) D+ G e h r++ y+(**) --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ---begin random quote of the moment--- A good traveller has no fixed plans and is not intent on arriving. -- Lao Tzu (570-490 BC) end random quote of the moment -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mirror list
On 29 Oct 2005, lordSauron wrote: Yeah, you really should host a mirror - more mirrors means more places to distribute the bandwidth load. Working on it currently. I will notify all the appropriate people once I'm done with the initial rsync and am ready for the push part of the mirror. Tell me one thing though: is this OC-12 line into your house or workplace??? I've been trying for ages to get a ISP that'll let me host with even a bloody cable broadband connexion, however, since my area was one of the first to be wired with cable broadband, they're not going to re-wire it until hell freezes over (not the one in Alaska). OC-12 at home... Wouldn't that be nice! No, that's definitely at work (Texas AM University). There is no way I could afford the cost of that OC-12 personally. An OC-12 is roughly 622.08Mbps (either direction) while I only have a 5Mbps down/768Kbps up cable connection at home. I think we currently pay around $120,000USD for the OC-12 at work. Personally speaking, hosting anything of any size (this mirror for example) on a home connection is next to useless. I feel for you in looking for a decent provider in the boondocks. I have a friend in Northwest Washington who ended up going with DirecPC/Direcway (http://www.direcway.com/) because that was really his only option. He says the speed is decent (equivalent to slower DSL or cable modem service) but that the latency is pretty high. That's to be expected when the first and last leg of every route adds an additional 40,000 miles or so to the total distance! But I certainly wouldn't want to host any high traffic services on such a connection. It would be much better to lease a dedicated server elsewhere for this type of service, although prices are pretty high going this route too. Unmetered 20Mbps service starts around $239USD to give you an idea. Sorry, ISPs are a major sore-spot of mine... yeah, you should certainly make an effort to host a mirror. What locale would your mirror be in? the US? I think that there's a lack of mirrors in the US personally... I would love to remedy that, but as I said before, The mirror will be in Texas. As long as you have a decent connection at home, your downlink will most likely be saturated from this end. -- Mark Nippere-contacts: 832 Tanglewood Drive[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bryan, Texas 77802-4013 http://nipsy.bitgnome.net/ (979)575-3193 AIM/Yahoo: texasnipsy ICQ: 66971617 -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GG/IT d- s++:+ a- C++$ UBL$ P---+++ L+++$ !E--- W++(--) N+ o K++ w(---) O++ M V(--) PS+++(+) PE(--) Y+ PGP t+ 5 X R tv b+++@ DI+(++) D+ G e h r++ y+(**) --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ---begin random quote of the moment--- Sleep sweet within this quiet room, O thou, whoe'er thou art, And let no mournful yesterdays Disturb thy peaceful heart. Nor let tomorrow mar thy rest With dreams of coming ill. Thy maker is thy changeless friend, His love surrounds thee still. Forget thyself and all the world, Put out each garish light: The stars are shining overhead - Sleep sweet! Good night! Good night! -- Ellen M. Huntington Gates end random quote of the moment -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: can't mount raid 5 after installation
you shouldnt have to load any modules as long as they are configured as modules, all you need to do is create a /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf with the following (changed to your devices) DEVICE /dev/hd[bcd]1 ARRAY /dev/md0 UUID=3ab15009:10842ae2:c17e96db:d9376d90 And then modify /etc/default/mdadm and set AUTOSTART=true and hopefully if you have modified /etc/fstab to mount it correctly your system should mount home on start Thank you, Mark Adrian Coetser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tux-edo.co.za, http://www.thummb.com cel: +27 76 527 8789 tel: +27 11 805 2076 fax: +27 11 805 2330 -Original Message- From: Stephen Gran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 October 2005 08:01 PM To: debian-amd64@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: can't mount raid 5 after installation This one time, at band camp, Hamish Moffatt said: On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 01:58:52PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: kohzak [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hamish Moffatt a écrit : Ok, after reconfiguring mdadm i can mount my /home But after reboot, i still have the same problem. Reinstall the kernel-image so the initrd gets rebuild and includes the raid modules and mdadm. But it won't since the root filesystem is not on raid. (At least, it doesn't need to, so I don't think the initrd will set up the md.) Put the names of the modules in /etc/mkinitrd/modules, one per line (just like /etc/modules) -- - | ,''`.Stephen Gran | | : :' :[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | `. `'Debian user, admin, and developer | |`- http://www.debian.org | -
cvsup for amd64?
I notice that cvsup isn't in the Debian amd64 distro yet. Is there a place where I can find out why? I'm trying to decide if it's a problem that I may be able to solve and contribute back, or if it's just totally impossible and I should spend the effort to not use cvsup. M signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: kernel 2.6.11-2.6.12 freeze
On 25 Jul 2005, Jan Berndt wrote: Are you using powernowd? As for me the nvidia-driver and powernowd won't work together. After removing powernowd everthing works fine (For two days now!). Actually, I experienced freezes with AMD64 using any frequency scaling in the kernel. I was using cpufreqd, but even without a userland daemon and just toggling things myself via echo, I could get my system to lock up. I was testing things using 32-bit mplayer in a chroot to play a Real Audio stream. As soon as I took out all frequency scaling of my kernel, the system was rock solid. This was all done from a console without loading my nVidia module and no X running, so I can say with a decent amount of certainty that there may be problems in general with frequency scaling and AMD64 kernels. -- Mark Nippere-contacts: 4475 Carter Creek Parkway [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apartment 724 http://nipsy.bitgnome.net/ Bryan, Texas, 77802-4481 AIM/Yahoo: texasnipsy ICQ: 66971617 (979)575-3193 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GG/IT d- s++:+ a- C++$ UBL$ P---+++ L+++$ !E--- W++(--) N+ o K++ w(---) O++ M V(--) PS+++(+) PE(--) Y+ PGP t+ 5 X R tv b+++@ DI+(++) D+ G e h r++ y+(**) --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ---begin random quote of the moment--- Zack, living in truth feels good. And it sticks in your memory. Like, it's a truism with acid heads that you can never truly remember what tripping feels like. You think you do, but every time you trip it's like waking up all over again, you recognize the head coming on and you dig that your memories of it were shadows. -- Wesley George, the last great dope wizard from Spider Robinson's Satan's Children, 1979 (appearing in _By Any Other Name_, 2001) end random quote of the moment -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: burn cd/dvd: permission /dev/sg0 denied
On 22 Jul 2005, antonio giulio wrote: cdrecord dev=help returns: cdrecord: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.11-9-amd64-k8 cdrecord: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer. cdrecord: If you have unexpected problems, please try Linux-2.4 or Solaris. Supported SCSI transports for this platform: As a very long time cdrecord-prodvd user, I would also suggest switching to growisofs in the dvd+rw-tools package for burning DVD's in the future. The developer of cdrecord and the Linux kernel developers seem to have issues most of the time and in my experience thus far, growisofs just works. It handles both + and - media at this point, so don't let the name fool you. It's more or less completely non-intuitive that growisofs would be the replacement to cdrecord-prodvd, but there it is. For what it's worth, I still use cdrecord (non-prodvd) for burning normal CD's, but it's so rare that I ever burn CD's at all anymore anyway. And of course, what everyone else said about using ATA instead of ide-scsi at this point. You can just pass /dev/dvd or /dev/hdc or whatever directly to growisofs without the need for the SCSI emulation layer. -- Mark Nippere-contacts: 4475 Carter Creek Parkway [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apartment 724 http://nipsy.bitgnome.net/ Bryan, Texas, 77802-4481 AIM/Yahoo: texasnipsy ICQ: 66971617 (979)575-3193 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GG/IT d- s++:+ a- C++$ UBL$ P---+++ L+++$ !E--- W++(--) N+ o K++ w(---) O++ M V(--) PS+++(+) PE(--) Y+ PGP t+ 5 X R tv b+++@ DI+(++) D+ G e h r++ y+(**) --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ---begin random quote of the moment--- Do daemons dream of electric sleep()? end random quote of the moment -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Downloading DVD .ISO's
On 20 Jul 2005, Justin Grindal wrote: Quick question - I've been trying to download the DVD .ISO's from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/sarge-amd64/iso-dvd/ and, instead of getting the 4.0 and 3.4 GB ISO's, mine only wind up being an even 2GB. Obviously, when they're done, the md5sum's don't line up, and the images don't work. I tried downloading them using my WinXP box (first try was on FC3 box) and I only read them as 387 meg downloads. Any advice on how I can get the whole ISO? I'm surprised cdimage.debian.org is even serving those files properly. I didn't think Apache (2.1 anyway) would serve out large files. At least my experience with 2.0.x would suggest otherwise. From my own experience, curl is one of the few cross platform utilities which will handle large files. I've gone as far as installing Cygwin on Windows machines just to make this work as 32-bit IE and Firefox wouldn't handle it. And on the server side, I've started using Cherokee exactly because it supports large files properly. I was humored to see that the recent Apache 2.1 development branch finally added proper large file support. But again, I'm surprised cdimage.debian.org is handling these files correctly (if in fact it even is). -- Mark Nippere-contacts: 4475 Carter Creek Parkway [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apartment 724 http://nipsy.bitgnome.net/ Bryan, Texas, 77802-4481 AIM/Yahoo: texasnipsy ICQ: 66971617 (979)575-3193 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GG/IT d- s++:+ a- C++$ UBL$ P---+++ L+++$ !E--- W++(--) N+ o K++ w(---) O++ M V(--) PS+++(+) PE(--) Y+ PGP t+ 5 X R tv b+++@ DI+(++) D+ G e h r++ y+(**) --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ---begin random quote of the moment--- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. end random quote of the moment -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: e-machines M6809 + sarge
On 18 Jul 2005, Brendon J. Colby wrote: I've been searching for a while trying to figure out this problem. I'm trying to get the AMD64 build of Sarge installed on my emachines m6809 laptop. I can boot the AMD64 Sarge network install just fine and get through the inital installation, but when I reboot to finish the rest of the install, it hangs at the PCI hotplug section. It dumps out a bunch of APIC related errors I think (I'm at work, so I don't have the exact errors). I know there have been multiple complaints about the APIC stuff causing problems and e-machines / Gateway refuses to offer a BIOS update. I can't find any of the un-authorized BIOS updates either (some people had luck updating to the m6811 bios). I've also tried giving the noapic boot options to no avail. Has anyone gotten Sarge installed on this laptop? The site used to be: --- http://www.rmecc.com/~v2/em/ but doesn't appear to be available any longer unfortunately. E-machines has the firmware download available still through their site for the M6805 which should work for your laptop, but the standard warnings and disclaimers apply here since I do not own the M6809 but the M6805. --- http://downloads.emachines.com/bios/M6805_Shadow-K8.exe As to whether the original flaky E-machines BIOS is causing your APIC problems or not, do you have Windows XP installed with SP2 also? If so, just unplugging the AC connection would deadlock my M6805 with the old BIOS whereas it works without problems on the new BIOS. And after I updated to the newer BIOS (using the above installer from E-machines), I could boot Knoppix without any problems and didn't have to pass any special options anymore to get a full boot to occur. Anyway, sorry I cannot be any more specific than that. I'm currently only running Debian AMD64 on my desktop system even though I have this fine AMD64 laptop. I'm keeping an eye on the new Turion laptops, but that will have to wait for now. If you need any help from me, let me know. I'm on the laptop right at the moment, but if you want to compare BIOS versions or some such, just let me know. I'll just need to reboot to get the string. Good luck! -- Mark Nippere-contacts: 4475 Carter Creek Parkway [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apartment 724 http://nipsy.bitgnome.net/ Bryan, Texas, 77802-4481 AIM/Yahoo: texasnipsy ICQ: 66971617 (979)575-3193 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GG/IT d- s++:+ a- C++$ UBL$ P---+++ L+++$ !E--- W++(--) N+ o K++ w(---) O++ M V(--) PS+++(+) PE(--) Y+ PGP t+ 5 X R tv b+++@ DI+(++) D+ G e h r++ y+(**) --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ---begin random quote of the moment--- There is infinite hope, but not for us. -- Kafka end random quote of the moment -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Filesystem stability?
Thanks to all of you for your replies. In the history of my site, we've gone through 4 filesystems: initially, we were ext2, then ext3, then ReiserFS 3.6, and finally XFS. Each of these were chosen for a reason (ext3 because we needed journaling, ReiserFS because we needed higher performance for lots of small files, XFS because we couldn't eat ReiserFS's bad unlink performance). XFS has, in general, been pretty good to us. However, given that we've seen some odd behavior with it on 32bit, and given that SGI doesn't appear to be maintaining XFS much anymore, I believe we will be switching to something else. I'm not sure exactly what, yet, but it appears that XFS isn't a good choice anymore. M signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Filesystem stability?
I've heard rumours that some of the Linux filesystems aren't as stable as they should be on AMD64; in particular, I've heard of bad things happening with JFS and XFS. That being said, I can't find anything even approaching authoritative, so I thought I'd ask: What filesystems are you guys using, and anyone had any bad experiences? M signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: gcc version issue trying to install vmware5
On 09 Jun 2005, Rupert Heesom wrote: I was running the install script for vmware5, it complained that my kernel was compiled using gcc 3.4 and my current gcc is version 3.3.5. You might try specifying CC=gcc-3.4 in your environment or on the same line as your vmware configure command: --- CC=gcc-3.4 /usr/local/vmware/bin/vmware-config.pl I would imagine either one will work. -- Mark Nippere-contacts: 4475 Carter Creek Parkway [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apartment 724 http://nipsy.bitgnome.net/ Bryan, Texas, 77802-4481 AIM/Yahoo: texasnipsy ICQ: 66971617 (979)575-3193 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GG/IT d- s++:+ a- C++$ UBL$ P---+++ L+++$ !E--- W++(--) N+ o K++ w(---) O++ M V(--) PS+++(+) PE(--) Y+ PGP t+ 5 X R tv b+++@ DI+(++) D+ G e h r++ y+(**) --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ---begin random quote of the moment--- I cannot tolerate intolerant people. end random quote of the moment -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gcc version issue trying to install vmware5
On 09 Jun 2005, Rupert Heesom wrote: However I have another problem now with VMware - the script fails again with the kernel headers (which I have installed). I've taken a look at the k-headers tree and symlinks, and I think I know what's wrong, but wanted a 2nd opinion. stat'd /usr/src/linux (shows symlink as expected) File: `linux' - `kernel-headers-2.6.8-11-amd64-k8-smp' stat'd /usr/src/linux/include/asm (shows symlink to non-smp, non-k8 kernel tree which is not present) File: `asm' - `../../kernel-headers-2.6.8-11/include/asm' The non-present vanilla kernel tree which is being symlinked to is what the vmware install script can't read. Should I have both the k8-smp kernel headers and the vanilla headers installed, or are the current kernel-headers faulty?? I thought all of the derivative kernel-header packages were suppose to include the vanilla kernel-header-x.y.z-r package also? Just testing a few in dselect seems to select the base version also for me on my current system (x86 though, not x86_64). Anyway, yes, installing the kernel-headers-2.6.8-11 package itself will probably fix your problem. I'm not sure if it's just kernel-headers-2.6.8-11 off the top of my head or whether the -amd64 will be on the end also. -- Mark Nippere-contacts: 4475 Carter Creek Parkway [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apartment 724 http://nipsy.bitgnome.net/ Bryan, Texas, 77802-4481 AIM/Yahoo: texasnipsy ICQ: 66971617 (979)575-3193 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GG/IT d- s++:+ a- C++$ UBL$ P---+++ L+++$ !E--- W++(--) N+ o K++ w(---) O++ M V(--) PS+++(+) PE(--) Y+ PGP t+ 5 X R tv b+++@ DI+(++) D+ G e h r++ y+(**) --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ---begin random quote of the moment--- ...now I am become Death [Shiva]. the destroyer of worlds... -- J. Robert Oppenheimer on 16 July 1945 at 0529 Mountain War Time in the Jornada del Muerto desert near the Trinity site in the White Sands Missile Range quoting from the Bhagavad-Gita upon witnessing the first atomic detonation by mankind. The quote from the Bhagavad-Gita: If the radiance of a thousand suns Were to burst at once in the sky That would be like the splendor of the Mighty one... I am become Death, The shatterer of Worlds. end random quote of the moment -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
archives?
Am I just crazy or did all of the archives die recently? I've tried amd64.debian.net, debian.csail.mit.edu and ftp.de.debian.org and all of their dists directories appear to be empty for each of the various amd64 distributions. apt-get and dselect are very unhappy of course. And I don't see amd64 yet on my own official Debian mirror, so that hasn't happened yet. Just curious... -- Mark Nippere-contacts: 4475 Carter Creek Parkway [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apartment 724 http://nipsy.bitgnome.net/ Bryan, Texas, 77802-4481 AIM/Yahoo: texasnipsy ICQ: 66971617 (979)575-3193 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GG/IT d- s++:+ a- C++$ UBL$ P---+++ L+++$ !E--- W++(--) N+ o K++ w(---) O++ M V(--) PS+++(+) PE(--) Y+ PGP t+ 5 X R tv b+++@ DI+(++) D+ G e h r++ y+(**) --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ---begin random quote of the moment--- I have crossed oceans of time to find you. -- Dracula, Bram Stoker's Dracula, 1992 end random quote of the moment -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VMware in pure64?
On 08 Apr 2005, Major A wrote: If you've successfully installed VMware, please let me know how it's done. I'd ask you what kernel version you are using as I just had to revert from 2.6.12-rc2 on a machine back to 2.6.10 (I've just skipped 2.6.11.? entirely up to this point and 2.6.10 was stable for a long time on this machine so might as well go with what I know works) under i386 because neither 4.5.2 nor the 5.0-rc2 beta would work with 2.6.12-rc2. 4.5.2 sort of worked, some of the time, but on at least a few occasions caused an oops when I tried to load the modules and on other occasions would fail after some undetermined period of time with bizarre network problems to follow such as NFS dropouts and things like ifconfig hanging indefinitely. I finally threw in the towel and decided to try 5.0-rc2 but had similar problems with modules failing to load on installation. So I imagine x86-64 is not much better (and if anything, much worse). I had been using the 89 patchset from Petr with 4.5.2. I'm hoping after 2.6.12 is official he'll release something newer to deal with whatever changes are causing the problems. And no, I have not reported the problems officially even though I really should. So, long story short, you might try 2.6.11.7 or maybe even 2.6.10 under x86-64 if you are running something 2.6.12ish right now. -- Mark Nippere-contacts: 4475 Carter Creek Parkway [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apartment 724 http://nipsy.bitgnome.net/ Bryan, Texas, 77802-4481 AIM/Yahoo: texasnipsy ICQ: 66971617 (979)575-3193 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GG/IT d- s++:+ a- C++$ UBL$ P---+++ L+++$ !E--- W++(--) N+ o K++ w(---) O++ M V(--) PS+++(+) PE(--) Y+ PGP t+ 5 X R tv b+++@ DI+(++) D+ G e h r++ y+(**) --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ---begin random quote of the moment--- Generalizations are usually flawed by exceptions. -- seen at http://wunderland.com/ end random quote of the moment -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: ldd failing on fglrx-installer
Hi, Thank youfor the replies - I was using the wrong scripts to build the driver, and I also switched over to a pure gcc3.4 environment. The new scripts helped, but they did fail again during the dh_shlibdeps phase. The good news is, I have a better understanding of the problem. Runningthe command: debian/rules binary XVERSION=4.3.0 PVERSION=8.8.25 resulted in an error during the dh_shlibdeps check on the following file: emul/ia32-linux/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/fglrx_dri.so This library has a depedency on a 32 bit library, and failed with: ldd: /lib/ld-linux.so.2 not found The comments in the make file (rules) said that it was included in the AMD64 build because of backward compatibility with 32bit systems (?). I don't know how this will work on a 64 bit system that doesn't have the ld-linux.so.2 library installed. I could modify the make file to not include them, but I don't know if this will work or not. Maybe I'll try the precompiled files from the website, but I don't knowwhich version of gcc was used to create them. Thanks for your help, Mark Kennedy P.S. I also did a quick check of all the .so libraries and found another one that requires ld-linux.so.2 - usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/fglrx_dri.so.
ldd failing on fglrx-installer
Hi there, I just started installing the debian-pure64-3.4 port on my machine, and ran into a couple of problems building installing an ATI driver according to http://www.stanchina.net/~flavio/debian/fglrx-installer.html. The first problem that I ran into was a package (libqt3-mt-dev) not installing because of a package conflict (libc6-dev_2.3.2.ds1-20.0.0.1.gcc4_amd64.deb). I found an email saying that the problem could be fixed using dpkg --force-overwrite on the package, which seemed to work. When building the ATI driver, however, I got this error: dh_shlibdeps /usr/bin/ldd: line 145: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: No such file or directory ldd: /lib/ld-linux.so.2 exited with unknown exit code (127) dpkg-shlibdeps: failure: ldd on `debian/fglrx-drivers/usr/X11R6/bin/fgl_glxgears' gave error exit status 1 dh_shlibdeps: command returned error code 256 make: *** [binary] Error 1 If I type in 'ldd /bin/ls', it works. If I try 'ldd /usr/bin/ldd', I get the same ld-linux.so.2 error as above. ldd is part of the libc6 package, which should be fully 64 bit. If so, why is it looking for ld-linux.so.2, a 32 bit library? And why would the command work if it needed this library? If this is a bug, I'll enter it in the appropriate place. Thanks, Mark K. = Mark Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: suggestions for a 64 bit laptop?
On 01 Feb 2005, Alex Perry wrote: Lennart's notes also apply to the E-machines / Gateway series. Having said that, we're quite happy with our half dozen machines. It's also worth mentioning that earlier produced machines based on the Arima W730-K8 DTR design usually require a BIOS update which is almost impossible to get directly from the manufacturer. I'm running on the eMachine M6805 currently using the M6811 BIOS 0F07.P00 available from: --- http://www.rmecc.com/~v2/em/ Before upgrading, I had to disable ACPI, APIC, etc. to get the laptop to boot without freezing. With the newer BIOS, everything works as expected. And with the possible exception of the modem, everything seems to be supported at this point finally. The ATI driver is brand new, so all the normal warnings apply. As for me, I'm also waiting for a newer, faster laptop based around an Athlon 64. Something with the mobile ATI X800 or nVidia mobile 6800 preferably, but I'm not holding my breath. After the Arima machine came out, no one seemed to want to do anything else with the idea. Maybe once Windows 64 comes out there will be more interest from the hardware manufacturers. -- Mark Nippere-contacts: Computing and Information Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas AM Universityhttp://ops.tamu.edu/nipsy/ College Station, TX 77843-3142 AIM/Yahoo: texasnipsy ICQ: 66971617 (979)575-3193 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GG/IT d- s++:+ a- C++$ UBL$ P---+++ L+++$ !E--- W++(--) N+ o K++ w(---) O++ M V(--) PS+++(+) PE(--) Y+ PGP t+ 5 X R tv b+++@ DI+(++) D+ G e h r++ y+(**) --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ---begin random quote of the moment--- If the American People ever allow the banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers occupied. The issuing power of money should be taken from the bankers and restored to Congress and the people to whom it belongs. I sincerely believe the banking institutions having the issuing power of money are more dangerous to liberty than standing armies. We are completely saddled and bridled, and the bank is so firmly mounted on us that we must go where they ill guide. The dominion which the banking institutions have obtained over the minds of our citizens... must be broken, or it will break us. -- President Thomas Jefferson in a letter to James Monroe, 1 Jan 1815 end random quote of the moment -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: libGL compiled without -fPIC?
On 25 Dec 2004, Kurt Roeckx wrote: I have: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 Dec 18 12:17 /usr/lib/libGL.a - ../X11R6/lib/libGL.a lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Dec 18 12:17 /usr/lib/libGL.so - libGL.so.1.2 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Dec 18 12:17 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 - libGL.so.1.2 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 25 Dec 18 12:17 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 - ../X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2 dpkg --search /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 xlibmesa-gl: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 dpkg --search /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2 xlibmesa-gl: /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2 I do not have anything from nvidia installed. Thanks. Looks like a long standing bug with the nvidia-glx package. Bug is already filed under #208198. The duration of this bug is rather absurd given the simple nature of the problem. Happy holidays to all. Be safe and have fun! -- Mark Nippere-contacts: Computing and Information Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas AM Universityhttp://ops.tamu.edu/nipsy/ College Station, TX 77843-3142 AIM/Yahoo: texasnipsy ICQ: 66971617 (979)575-3193 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GG/IT d- s++:+ a- C++$ UBL$ P---+++ L+++$ !E--- W++(--) N+ o K++ w(---) O++ M V(--) PS+++(+) PE(--) Y+ PGP t+ 5 X R tv b+++@ DI+(++) D+ G e h r++ y+(**) --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ---begin random quote of the moment--- Long live the fighters! -- Paul Muad'Dib, Dune, 1984 end random quote of the moment
Re: libGL compiled without -fPIC?
On 24 Dec 2004, Kurt Roeckx wrote: But there is a shared version of the lib available as /usr/lib/libGL.so (in xlibmesa-gl-dev), why aren't you using that? Yeah, I'd done apt-get build-dep already. And believe me, it wasn't by choice that I wanted it to use the static version over the shared version! :) Anyway, I found the problem. In /usr/lib I had: --- lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Dec 23 21:47 libGL.so - libGL.so.1.2 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Dec 14 16:21 libGL.so.1 - libGL.so.1.0.6629 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 586K Dec 7 21:14 libGL.so.1.0.6629 but you'll note libGL.so.1.2 is missing! I think this may be an nvidia-glx related bug. I receall having to manually create libGL.so.1.2 myself on my x86 systems some time ago for a similar GL library issue. After adding the link: --- lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Dec 24 19:18 libGL.so.1.2 - libGL.so.1 everything compiles and is happy. If you could confirm (assuming you don't have the binary nVidia drivers installed) the sanity of this situation pre nvidia-glx, I'll file a bug report as I recall the same thing on x86 too. Interestingly enough, if I do 'dpkg -S /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2' it gives me: --- diversion by nvidia-glx from: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 diversion by nvidia-glx to: /usr/lib/nvidia/libGL.so.1.2.xlibmesa xlibmesa-gl: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 but it obviously never actually created it. Thanks for the reply. -- Mark Nippere-contacts: Computing and Information Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas AM Universityhttp://ops.tamu.edu/nipsy/ College Station, TX 77843-3142 AIM/Yahoo: texasnipsy ICQ: 66971617 (979)575-3193 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GG/IT d- s++:+ a- C++$ UBL$ P---+++ L+++$ !E--- W++(--) N+ o K++ w(---) O++ M V(--) PS+++(+) PE(--) Y+ PGP t+ 5 X R tv b+++@ DI+(++) D+ G e h r++ y+(**) --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ---begin random quote of the moment--- Whiskey-Tango-Foxtrot, over. -- anonymous end random quote of the moment
libGL compiled without -fPIC?
While trying to build vlc here at home, I got this: --- gcc -Wsign-compare -Wall -pipe -o libopengl_plugin.so libopengl_plugin_a-opengl.o `top_builddir=../.. ../../vlc-config --libs plugin opengl` /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib/libGL.a(glapi.o): relocation R_X86_64_32 can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC /usr/lib/libGL.a: could not read symbols: Bad value collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[5]: *** [libopengl_plugin.so] Error 1 Ack! I'm grabbing the sources now for xlibmesa-gl to verify, but at 768kbps, it will take a little more time. Anyone else seen this yet? I should mention I'm trying to debuild the vlc package, not straight from source from upstream. The maintainer left off --enable-ncurses (bug filed already) and I successfully rebuilt the package at work on x86. I was just trying to build the same here at home on x86_64. :) -- Mark Nippere-contacts: Computing and Information Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas AM Universityhttp://ops.tamu.edu/nipsy/ College Station, TX 77843-3142 AIM/Yahoo: texasnipsy ICQ: 66971617 (979)575-3193 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GG/IT d- s++:+ a- C++$ UBL$ P---+++ L+++$ !E--- W++(--) N+ o K++ w(---) O++ M V(--) PS+++(+) PE(--) Y+ PGP t+ 5 X R tv b+++@ DI+(++) D+ G e h r++ y+(**) --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ---begin random quote of the moment--- I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by. -- Douglas Adams end random quote of the moment
Re: nvidia drivers
On 18 Dec 2004, Rafael Rodr?guez wrote: Hi. In the usual apt-geteable nvidia drivers mirror i've found a nice message from its mantainer: AMD64 is now supported by the Debian Packages! However, in the amd64 mirrors i haven't found anything... hints? I'm running the Debian sid, gcc-3.4 branch currently and the drivers are available. What does your /etc/apt/sources.list file look like? Also, if you're running a recent kernel version, you will most likey need the patches at: --- http://www.minion.de/files/1.0-6629/ for the driver to actually work (in case you missed my earlier post). Let me know what your sources.list looks like and we can go from there. :) -- Mark Nippere-contacts: Computing and Information Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas AM Universityhttp://ops.tamu.edu/nipsy/ College Station, TX 77843-3142 AIM/Yahoo: texasnipsy ICQ: 66971617 (979)575-3193 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GG/IT d- s++:+ a- C++$ UBL$ P---+++ L+++$ !E--- W++(--) N+ o K++ w(---) O++ M V(--) PS+++(+) PE(--) Y+ PGP t+ 5 X R tv b+++@ DI+(++) D+ G e h r++ y+(**) --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ---begin random quote of the moment--- I cannot tolerate intolerant people. end random quote of the moment
question about sources list
In trying to figure out what broke with Python exactly, I've run across something I've never seen before on x86. I currently have python2.3_2.3.4-18 installed on my system but whenever I do 'apt-get source python2.3' it downloads python2.3_2.3.4-16. Why isn't it grabbing -18? For what it's worth, -16 doesn't segfault. I'm grabbing -18 by hand to see if the patch added between -16 and -18 is the problem. -- Mark Nippere-contacts: Computing and Information Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas AM Universityhttp://ops.tamu.edu/nipsy/ College Station, TX 77843-3142 AIM/Yahoo: texasnipsy ICQ: 66971617 (979)575-3193 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GG/IT d- s++:+ a- C++$ UBL$ P---+++ L+++$ !E--- W++(--) N+ o K++ w(---) O++ M V(--) PS+++(+) PE(--) Y+ PGP t+ 5 X R tv b+++@ DI+(++) D+ G e h r++ y+(**) --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ---begin random quote of the moment--- We do not see things as they are. We see things as we are. -- written in the _Talmud_ end random quote of the moment
Re: reportbug/python segfault
Well, I'm not able to track down the exact problem, but the python2.3_2.3.4-18_amd64.deb package currently available from alioth is hosed. I attached my sources.list for reference. Here's what I've tried so far. First I did 'apt-get source python2.3' which as per my other recent e-mail grabs python2.3_2.3.4-16. Building this on my system using dpkg-buildpackage and the necessary dependencies produces a working binary which does not segfault when reportbug goes to query the Debian BTS. I also grabbed the original tar and diff files via http://packages.debian.org/ for python2.3_2.3.4-18 and built again using dpkg-buildpackage. Again, this produces a working binary. I compiled both -16 and -18 with and without -ggdb. All four versions worked. It's only the version available currently on alioth which breaks. Not sure how that's even possible really unless the build environment which is producing the package is using a different version of gcc. Anyway, since this is specific to the current amd64 gcc-3.4 repository, I'll leave it at that. Maybe someone on this list can shed some light on the problem. -- Mark Nippere-contacts: Computing and Information Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas AM Universityhttp://ops.tamu.edu/nipsy/ College Station, TX 77843-3142 AIM/Yahoo: texasnipsy ICQ: 66971617 (979)575-3193 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GG/IT d- s++:+ a- C++$ UBL$ P---+++ L+++$ !E--- W++(--) N+ o K++ w(---) O++ M V(--) PS+++(+) PE(--) Y+ PGP t+ 5 X R tv b+++@ DI+(++) D+ G e h r++ y+(**) --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ---begin random quote of the moment--- 1. Resolved, that the several States composing, the United States of America; are not united on the principle of unlimited submission to their general government; but that, by a compact under the style and title of a Constitution for the United States, and of amendments thereto, they constituted a General Government for special purposes,delegated to that government certain definite powers, reserving, each State to itself, the residuary mass of right to their own self-government; and that whensoever the General Government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force: that to this compact each State acceded as a State, and is an integral party, its co-States forming, as to itself, the other party: that the government created by this compact was not made the exclusive or final judge of the extent of the powers delegated to itself; since that would have made its discretion, and not the Constitution, the measure of its powers; but that, as in all other cases of compact among powers having no common judge, each party has an equal right to judge for itself, as well of infractions as of the mode and measure of redress. -- Thomas Jefferson, _The Kentucky Resolutions_, 1798 end random quote of the moment # See sources.list(5) for more information, especialy # Remember that you can only use http, ftp or file URIs # CDROMs are managed through the apt-cdrom tool. deb http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/gcc-3.4 sid main contrib non-free # Uncomment if you want the apt-get source function to work deb-src http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/gcc-3.4 sid main contrib non-free # blackdown deb ftp://ftp.tux.org/pub/java/debian sid non-free deb-src ftp://ftp.tux.org/pub/java/debian sid non-free # Christian Marillat deb http://cyberspace.ucla.edu/marillat/ unstable main deb-src ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main deb-src ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main
reportbug/python segfault
Anyone else seeing a segfault from reportbug/python? Tried to file a wishlist bug report item today and I get: --- [EMAIL PROTECTED]/pts/5:~ reportbug gnome-cpufreq-applet *** Welcome to reportbug. Use ? for help at prompts. *** Using 'Mark Nipper [EMAIL PROTECTED]' as your from address. Detected character set: us-ascii Please change your locale if this is incorrect. Getting status for gnome-cpufreq-applet... Checking for newer versions at packages.debian.org... Querying Debian BTS for reports on gnome-cpufreq-applet (source)... zsh: 2971 segmentation fault reportbug gnome-cpufreq-applet Just updated today via dselect. Attached is my sources.list. Let me know if I can help any more. -- Mark Nippere-contacts: Computing and Information Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas AM Universityhttp://ops.tamu.edu/nipsy/ College Station, TX 77843-3142 AIM/Yahoo: texasnipsy ICQ: 66971617 (979)575-3193 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GG/IT d- s++:+ a- C++$ UBL$ P---+++ L+++$ !E--- W++(--) N+ o K++ w(---) O++ M V(--) PS+++(+) PE(--) Y+ PGP t+ 5 X R tv b+++@ DI+(++) D+ G e h r++ y+(**) --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ---begin random quote of the moment--- If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate. end random quote of the moment # See sources.list(5) for more information, especialy # Remember that you can only use http, ftp or file URIs # CDROMs are managed through the apt-cdrom tool. deb http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/gcc-3.4 sid main contrib non-free # Uncomment if you want the apt-get source function to work deb-src http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/gcc-3.4 sid main contrib non-free # blackdown deb ftp://ftp.tux.org/pub/java/debian sid non-free deb-src ftp://ftp.tux.org/pub/java/debian sid non-free # Christian Marillat deb http://cyberspace.ucla.edu/marillat/ unstable main deb-src ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main deb-src ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main
Re: reportbug/python segfault
The gdb dump from this looks like: --- Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x0043e792 in PyString_Size () I assume it's a 32-bit to 64-bit problem. I'll compile python with -ggdb later if I have time. -- Mark Nippere-contacts: Computing and Information Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas AM Universityhttp://ops.tamu.edu/nipsy/ College Station, TX 77843-3142 AIM/Yahoo: texasnipsy ICQ: 66971617 (979)575-3193 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GG/IT d- s++:+ a- C++$ UBL$ P---+++ L+++$ !E--- W++(--) N+ o K++ w(---) O++ M V(--) PS+++(+) PE(--) Y+ PGP t+ 5 X R tv b+++@ DI+(++) D+ G e h r++ y+(**) --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ---begin random quote of the moment--- Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. -- Douglas Adams, Last Chance to See end random quote of the moment
Re: Installation Problems
I had a go with the monolithic mini and unfortunately I get the same thing, no drivers found for my built in NIC, only my firewire ports found. Would you have to manually configure this somehow? Frederik Schueler wrote: Hi, the nic-extra-modules udeb has the via-velocity module. Try installing with the monolithic mini.iso. Greetings Frederik Schueler On Mon, Sep 13, 2004 at 07:54:00AM +0100, Mark Collin wrote: I have tried to install AMD64 Sid onto my machine but am having problems finding a working lan driver. I have an Abit AV8 with built in Via Gigabit LAN Ethernet card, unfortunately the Via Rhine drivers don't seem to be working. I have had a hunt around but cannot find any drivers for the Via Velocity 6122 chip. has anybody else tried to install on this board who can give me a few pointers, or does anybody know where I can find drivers that will work with this chip.
Installation Problems
I have tried to install AMD64 Sid onto my machine but am having problems finding a working lan driver. I have an Abit AV8 with built in Via Gigabit LAN Ethernet card, unfortunately the Via Rhine drivers don't seem to be working. I have had a hunt around but cannot find any drivers for the Via Velocity 6122 chip. has anybody else tried to install on this board who can give me a few pointers, or does anybody know where I can find drivers that will work with this chip. I'm a bit of a newbie to this so fairly detailed instructions of how to sort myself out would be useful :)
Re: mplayer e w32codecs
Sythos wrote: libavcodec don't support RP e QT, but fully support divx, xvid, mpeg4...(the team say this) Any experiences? libavcodec indeed seems to work fine on a pure64 system. I had some troubles with xvid though. Initially it worked fine when encoding an mpeg2 movie, but it quickly crashed with a segfault (libavcodec encoding worked fine, so I suspect it was xvid). I now run it from an ia32 chroot... -- Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
