Re: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011

2005-06-22 Thread Joerg Rossdeutscher
Hi,

I know, this thread is 6 weeks old, but... solved. Finally.

On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 15:08 +0200, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote:
 Am Mittwoch, den 04.05.2005, 15:41 + schrieb Jean-Luc Coulon 
 
  I've an ASUS A8V Deluxe with an ASUS A9250T/D video card.
  I've just updated my BIOS from 1009 to 1011.
  
  After this update, the machine boot fine and the display works in  
  cosole mode but while swtiching to X when gdm starts, I get a black  
  screen with only the cursor image in white.

Me2 with an K8V Deluxe. 
Today a beta(!)-Bios was released that seems to fix the problem. I can
see my desktop again, and glxgears runs fine.

ftp://ftp.asuscom.de/pub/ASUSCOM/BIOS/Socket_754/VIA_Chipset/K8T800/K8V_Deluxe/

1011d_02.zip

Bye,
Ratti

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[solved in 1013] Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011

2005-06-07 Thread Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh)

Hi,

Le 10.05.2005 13:46:26, Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) a écrit :

Le 10.05.2005 12:32:28, Marko Kaiser a écrit :

Hi all,

I had this trouble too on my Asus A8V with Version 1011 BIOS. After  
I upgraded the BIOS to 1012-xyz that problem disappeared. Even on  
Windows 2000 sporadic gfx problems occured with the 1011 BIOS!


Just tried 1012.012, if I reboot just after the upgrade everything  
went fine. If I power cycle the pachine, then I get a black screen  
when entering X


So, back to 1009


Just tried the brand new 1013.

And in the comments (we cannot call that changelog), there is AGP  
aperture problem fix




Best regards,
Marko



Regards



Jean-Luc


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Re: [solved in 1013] Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011

2005-06-07 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 06:00:39PM +, Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) wrote:
 Just tried the brand new 1013.
 
 And in the comments (we cannot call that changelog), there is AGP  
 aperture problem fix

They admitted something.  Yay!

Len Sorensen


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AW: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011

2005-05-10 Thread Jannick Ingo
Hiho..

So whats the point about your actual problem:

Did you updated your BIOS or so ?

I recently switched to debian back again. Because these same strange
things used to happen under gentoo too. Thought it had something to do
with the patchtree they are aplyiing to their sources.
You might want to take a look at the corresponding gentoo-forum thread
(more than 28 pages):
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-198023-highlight-lockups.html


But that puts the whole case under another light. 

ingo



Re: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011

2005-05-10 Thread Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh)
Le 10.05.2005 11:44:28, Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) a écrit :
Le 10.05.2005 11:25:59, Jannick Ingo a écrit :
Hiho..
So whats the point about your actual problem:
Did you updated your BIOS or so ?
I recently switched to debian back again. Because these same strange
things used to happen under gentoo too. Thought it had something to  
do
with the patchtree they are aplyiing to their sources.
You might want to take a look at the corresponding gentoo-forum  
thread
(more than 28 pages):
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-198023-highlight-lockups.html

But that puts the whole case under another light.
In *my* case (Asus A8V Deluxe + Radeon 9250 and free drivers), I've  
reverted to BIOS 1009 and this fixed the problem.
By the way, I've seent here is a 1012.002 Beta version of this BIOS  
(only downloadable from China, others links / repository are dead ;-) )

Any candidate to test it ?
Jean-Luc


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AW: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011

2005-05-10 Thread Jannick Ingo
Give me some minutes :))

Actually have to get of work this afternoon, install new bios stuff, and then 
sit there an wait that this thing crashes my system ;))

Hopefully not. And see me sittin there for weeks and scooping at my runnin 
system ;))

Thx
ingo


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Le 10.05.2005 11:44:28, Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) a écrit :
 Le 10.05.2005 11:25:59, Jannick Ingo a écrit :
 Hiho..
 
 So whats the point about your actual problem:
 
 Did you updated your BIOS or so ?
 
 I recently switched to debian back again. Because these same strange 
 things used to happen under gentoo too. Thought it had something to
 do
 with the patchtree they are aplyiing to their sources.
 You might want to take a look at the corresponding gentoo-forum  
 thread
 (more than 28 pages):
 http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-198023-highlight-lockups.html
 
 
 But that puts the whole case under another light.
 
 In *my* case (Asus A8V Deluxe + Radeon 9250 and free drivers), I've
 reverted to BIOS 1009 and this fixed the problem.

By the way, I've seent here is a 1012.002 Beta version of this BIOS  
(only downloadable from China, others links / repository are dead ;-) )

Any candidate to test it ?


Jean-Luc



Re: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011

2005-05-10 Thread Marko Kaiser
Hi all,
I had this trouble too on my Asus A8V with Version 1011 BIOS. After I 
upgraded the BIOS to 1012-xyz that problem disappeared. Even on Windows 
2000 sporadic gfx problems occured with the 1011 BIOS!

Best regards,
Marko
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Re: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems

2005-05-10 Thread Jamil Djadala
Hi all,
I also have AV8, bios 1008.

i work most time in X, but start it via startx, and everything works
fine.
and some days ago i want to try display manager (xdm, gdm, kdm).

after installing gdm via apt-get, all work fine, but after reboot
keyboard locks (mouse still work, machine is accesible via network).
same results for xdm and kdm.

after little experimentation i found:
1. if X is started before mingetty in inittab, keyboard locks
(randomly).
2. if X is started manually ( startx, /etc/init.d/gdm start) after rc
scripts,  all work fine.

i belive this info may be helpful to find real problem

best regards,

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Re: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011

2005-05-09 Thread Joerg Rossdeutscher
Hi,

Am Mittwoch, den 04.05.2005, 15:41 + schrieb Jean-Luc Coulon
(f5ibh):

 I've asked Asus support, the reply (In French) is that they have no  
 UNIX/linux support for the moment, sorry for the inconvenient.

I've also contacted Asus. 
The answer I got today is... bizzare:


 Dear Friend :
 Thank you for contacting ASUS Customer Service.
 My name is   and I would be assisting you today 
 
 Sir, What's the motherboard do you have ? A8V deluxe ? K8V deluxe ? or
 K8V ? do you have use other motherboard bios (eg , k8v deluxe) to
 update A8V deluxe . Thanks a lot for your information . by the way ,
 you don't use other motherboard bios to update this motherboard . Or
 it will kill your bios chipset . 
 
 And if your bios chipset is corrupt ,the main boot block of bios is
 damaged ,
 
 so you can not re-flash it back because the system won't boot .
 
 if you have a eeprom programmer you can use it to write bios chip
 back ;
 
 If you have another ASUS board( same type and same PCB version) ,you
 can use hot-swap method to write bios back .
 
 
 if above 2 ways are all impossible ,you need contact your mother board
 dealer to send this faulty board to! repaired . 
 
 
 
 Best regards ! 

Crazy.

The problem is: Their bios breaks the nvidia drivers. And these guy
tells me something about broken eeproms and flashing the wrong bios.

Rated zero.


Bye,
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Re: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011

2005-05-09 Thread Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh)
Le 09.05.2005 20:55:17, Joerg Rossdeutscher a écrit :
Hi,
Am Mittwoch, den 04.05.2005, 15:41 + schrieb Jean-Luc Coulon
(f5ibh):
 I've asked Asus support, the reply (In French) is that they have no
 UNIX/linux support for the moment, sorry for the inconvenient.
I've also contacted Asus.
The answer I got today is... bizzare:
 Dear Friend :
 Thank you for contacting ASUS Customer Service.
 My name is   and I would be assisting you today

 Sir, What's the motherboard do you have ? A8V deluxe ? K8V deluxe ?
or
 K8V ? do you have use other motherboard bios (eg , k8v deluxe) to
 update A8V deluxe . Thanks a lot for your information . by the way ,
 you don't use other motherboard bios to update this motherboard . Or
 it will kill your bios chipset .

 And if your bios chipset is corrupt ,the main boot block of bios is
 damaged ,

 so you can not re-flash it back because the system won't boot .

 if you have a eeprom programmer you can use it to write bios chip
 back ;

 If you have another ASUS board( same type and same PCB version) ,you
 can use hot-swap method to write bios back .


 if above 2 ways are all impossible ,you need contact your mother
board
 dealer to send this faulty board to! repaired .



 Best regards !
Crazy.
The problem is: Their bios breaks the nvidia drivers. And these guy
tells me something about broken eeproms and flashing the wrong bios.
Yes really crazy.
Some guys do hot swap of EEPROM from one motherboard to an other one  
when they have broken the BIOS in such a way they can't flash it back.

I've read some guys doing so from one motherbord to an other model. It  
seeems to work but you ahve to keep the motherboard powered while doing  
so and the EEPROM have to be the same model.

In your case, probably you got the answer for the question of an other  
guy...

Rated zero.
Of course

Bye,
Ratti
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Re: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011

2005-05-09 Thread Joerg Rossdeutscher
Am Montag, den 09.05.2005, 19:12 + schrieb Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh):
 Le 09.05.2005 20:55:17, Joerg Rossdeutscher a écrit :

   And if your bios chipset is corrupt ,the main boot block of bios is
   damaged ,

  Crazy.
  
  The problem is: Their bios breaks the nvidia drivers. And these guy
  tells me something about broken eeproms and flashing the wrong bios.
 
 Yes really crazy.

 In your case, probably you got the answer for the question of an other  
 guy...

No, he quoted my mail, I just didn't post that very long part into the
list. It just would make it even more ridiculous (I have an Asus K8V
deluxe... What board do you have?)

Bye, Ratti


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Re: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011

2005-05-09 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 10:30:38PM +0200, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote:
 No, he quoted my mail, I just didn't post that very long part into the
 list. It just would make it even more ridiculous (I have an Asus K8V
 deluxe... What board do you have?)

if grep Bios.*update.*problem inputdata; then
send Bios repair procedures FAQ;
fi

Did you actually think a person read it? :)

I wonder if the person dealing with the message knows the same language
as you.

Len Sorensen


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Re: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011

2005-05-06 Thread Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh)
Le 06.05.2005 15:34:43, Lennart Sorensen a écrit :
On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 03:41:12PM +, Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh)
wrote:
 I've an ASUS A8V Deluxe with an ASUS A9250T/D video card.
 I've just updated my BIOS from 1009 to 1011.

 After this update, the machine boot fine and the display works in
 cosole mode but while swtiching to X when gdm starts, I get a black
 screen with only the cursor image in white.
Well running 1009 still on mine and it works perfectly, which of
course
means I have no reason to consider upgrading the bios.  Upgrading is
for
fixing problems.  If you don't have any, don't upgrade, sice the only
thing it can do is either nothing or break something.  It can't be
better than all working after all.
Yes, you are right, but this upgrade is for the support for the new ad  
core (Venice). So this means we are stuck with the running processor.  
Or maybe there will be an other fix later ...

 The machine is still alive and I can access it via ssh. But I cannot
 even swith to a console and try a blind reboot with
AltCtrlFn
 and then log in. I cannot kill the X server with
AltCtrlBackspace.

 If I boot the machine using Ubuntu live CD, it works.
 If then I reboot (not power off the box) the system, then my normal
 Debian system works.
Does ubuntu use vesa or something instead of the binary only driver
(which does agp drm stuff)?
Ubuntu use xorg instead of xfree, the driver is ati (BTW, ati  
doesnt work on my system both with 64 and 32 bit, I've to use radeon).

 I've reverted to BIOS revison 1009 and this fix the problem.

 I've asked Asus support, the reply (In French) is that they have no
 UNIX/linux support for the moment, sorry for the inconvenient.

 Do you havea any idea of what can be the cause of this problem ?

 I use the free Xfree86 driver radeon.
 The display is an IBM P200, 20 tested at various resolutions.
The monitor will not crash the machine. :)  Well unless the DDC parser
is garbage and the data is bad.
If you have no problems with 1009, just keep using it.
What I did. But this is not a long term solution. And the politic of  
Asus is not acceptable. 1009 is not bug free. i.e. : try the auto  
overclocking mode.. Other problem : if I left agp fastwrite to enabled,  
I get a machine check.

Some years ago I had a bios upgrade (I used to think you should always
upgrade too) which made the adaptec 2940uw card just disappear (never
initialized) which of course made booting from the scsi hd a bit of a
problem.  Fortunately I kept the old bios on a floppy so I could boot
the system from floppy (after disabling the scsi bios in the adaptec
setup since it actuall crashed the boot when enabled), after which I
could downgrade the bios, then reanable the scsi bios and the system
was
back to normal.  Now I only upgrade the bios when I have stuff not
working that is listed as fixed.
The changelog for the ASUS BIOS doesnt represent the changes. Many  
other things have been changed : the way the DDR is managed, some  
options have beed added, other suppressed...

dvdwriter firmware on the other hand I do find uses in upgrading since
they keep adding support for newer media (and sometimes they up the
speed of the drive too like on the PX716A which went from 4x to 6x DL
support).
I guess you can send back a message to asus that the 1011 bios breaks
nvidia and ati accelerated X drivers while 1009 works.  Maybe they can
consider what they may have broken.  Who knows what else it might
affect
in suttle ways.
This is what I did and if you refer to my previous post they reply tehy  
have no UNIX/linux support.

And I consider *this* is the worse in ths problem..
Len Sorensen
Jean-Luc


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Re: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011

2005-05-06 Thread Joerg Rossdeutscher
Hi,

Am Freitag, den 06.05.2005, 09:34 -0400 schrieb Lennart Sorensen:
 Upgrading is for fixing problems.

I do not agree with you. That may have been that way in the 90s, when a
Bios was a program that boots your OS. Nowadays technology is moving
very fast, and I want to use modern features like powermanagement,
Firewire, Instant-On, ... This machine is not a server, it's my
fun-at-home-computer. If the bios breaks - it's not a big deal.
Asus-bords can flash a new Bios at boot-time directly from a 3,5-disk
without needing any OS or software, and they can fallback on an
emergency-Bios in case of problems. So I install any Bios-Upgrade
immediately.

When I boot into linux, some of the modules ouptput unhappy messages
about the hardware (...implementation of blabla is broken, tell your
vendor to fix, get an update...), and I think this is also meant
seriously by the authors. 

Bye,
Ratti

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Re: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011

2005-05-06 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 02:45:02PM +, Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) wrote:
 Yes, you are right, but this upgrade is for the support for the new ad  
 core (Venice). So this means we are stuck with the running processor.  
 Or maybe there will be an other fix later ...

Try asking ATI.  Maybe if ATI asks asus someone will work something out
since without sources (which ati has) you can't tell what is going wrong
in the driver really.  I imagine it is some simple setting they got
wrong in the new bios.  Or perhaps you have to set a new option
different than the default in the new bios.

 Ubuntu use xorg instead of xfree, the driver is ati (BTW, ati  
 doesnt work on my system both with 64 and 32 bit, I've to use radeon).

Is there a radeon driver on ubuntu?  If so does it break too?

 What I did. But this is not a long term solution. And the politic of  
 Asus is not acceptable. 1009 is not bug free. i.e. : try the auto  
 overclocking mode.. Other problem : if I left agp fastwrite to enabled,  
 I get a machine check.

Well it is certainly not a good move on their part.  Linux users might
stop recomending Asus, which I know a lot have been, since they have
generally been very well built and very well supported.

 The changelog for the ASUS BIOS doesnt represent the changes. Many  
 other things have been changed : the way the DDR is managed, some  
 options have beed added, other suppressed...

I agree the changelogs are pathetic for their bios upgrades.

 This is what I did and if you refer to my previous post they reply tehy  
 have no UNIX/linux support.
 
 And I consider *this* is the worse in ths problem..

It would be a shame if one of the best motherboard vendors end up going
down because of that kind of attitude.

Does it affect the ati windows drivers I wonder... :)

Unfortunately it probably doesn't.

Len Sorensen


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Re: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011

2005-05-06 Thread Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh)
Le 06.05.2005 20:27:53, Joerg Rossdeutscher a écrit :
Hi,
Am Freitag, den 06.05.2005, 09:34 -0400 schrieb Lennart Sorensen:
 Upgrading is for fixing problems.
I do not agree with you. That may have been that way in the 90s, when
a
Bios was a program that boots your OS. Nowadays technology is moving
very fast, and I want to use modern features like powermanagement,
Firewire, Instant-On, ... This machine is not a server, it's my
fun-at-home-computer. If the bios breaks - it's not a big deal.
Asus-bords can flash a new Bios at boot-time directly from a 3,5-disk
And even without a floppy : if you have the 18V.ROM file on a CD, you  
can use EZ6Flash from the CD. Juste type AltF2 and wait 3 seconds for  
the timout finding the floppy (I've no floppy on this machine), it will  
look then at the CD.

without needing any OS or software, and they can fallback on an
emergency-Bios in case of problems. So I install any Bios-Upgrade
immediately.
When I boot into linux, some of the modules ouptput unhappy messages
about the hardware (...implementation of blabla is broken, tell your
vendor to fix, get an update...), and I think this is also meant
seriously by the authors.
Bye,
Ratti
Jean-Luc


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Re: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011

2005-05-06 Thread Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh)
Le 06.05.2005 20:40:28, Lennart Sorensen a écrit :
On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 02:45:02PM +, Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh)
wrote:
 Yes, you are right, but this upgrade is for the support for the new
ad
 core (Venice). So this means we are stuck with the running
processor.
 Or maybe there will be an other fix later ...
Try asking ATI.  Maybe if ATI asks asus someone will work something
out
since without sources (which ati has) you can't tell what is going
wrong
in the driver really.  I imagine it is some simple setting they got
wrong in the new bios.  Or perhaps you have to set a new option
different than the default in the new bios.
No, I've took care to set exactly the same options (as long as there  
are available, but it was at least the case for the AGP stuff).

Maybe I've to try the fglrx drivers before asking ATI. I think it will  
be the next step.

 Ubuntu use xorg instead of xfree, the driver is ati (BTW, ati
 doesnt work on my system both with 64 and 32 bit, I've to use
radeon).
Is there a radeon driver on ubuntu?  If so does it break too?
I cannot remember. I have used a live CD and the card is autodetected.  
BTW, radeon is not an option when you install xfree86 in Debian, it is  
ati. I've read somewhere that both are identical, but I've not the same  
result with both of them.

 What I did. But this is not a long term solution. And the politic of
 Asus is not acceptable. 1009 is not bug free. i.e. : try the auto
 overclocking mode.. Other problem : if I left agp fastwrite to
enabled,
 I get a machine check.
Well it is certainly not a good move on their part.  Linux users might
stop recomending Asus, which I know a lot have been, since they have
generally been very well built and very well supported.
And they cannot report the problem to the graphic card maker: I've an  
ASUS too ;-)

 The changelog for the ASUS BIOS doesnt represent the changes. Many
 other things have been changed : the way the DDR is managed, some
 options have beed added, other suppressed...
I agree the changelogs are pathetic for their bios upgrades.
 This is what I did and if you refer to my previous post they reply
tehy
 have no UNIX/linux support.

 And I consider *this* is the worse in ths problem..
It would be a shame if one of the best motherboard vendors end up
going
down because of that kind of attitude.
Does it affect the ati windows drivers I wonder... :)
Unfortunately it probably doesn't.
I've no windows to test. Maybe it that would need a try just after  
testing the fglrx.

Len Sorensen
J-L


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Re: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011

2005-05-06 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 07:47:02PM +, Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) wrote:
 And they cannot report the problem to the graphic card maker: I've an  
 ASUS too ;-)

Excapt the chip on the card is an ATI and the driver is written by ATI
or against ATI specs.

 I've no windows to test. Maybe it that would need a try just after  
 testing the fglrx.

After all if it breaks XP, they just might start to care what they
broke.

Len Sorensen


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Re: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011

2005-05-05 Thread Joerg Rossdeutscher
Am Mittwoch, den 04.05.2005, 15:41 + schrieb Jean-Luc Coulon 

 I've an ASUS A8V Deluxe with an ASUS A9250T/D video card.
 I've just updated my BIOS from 1009 to 1011.
 
 After this update, the machine boot fine and the display works in  
 cosole mode but while swtiching to X when gdm starts, I get a black  
 screen with only the cursor image in white.
 
 The machine is still alive and I can access it via ssh. But I cannot  
 even swith to a console and try a blind reboot with AltCtrlFn  
 and then log in. I cannot kill the X server with AltCtrlBackspace.

Me2. 
Same board, but I use sid-32bit.

It seems to be a mess, but works: I use the nvidia module (lsmod), but
for X11 I use nv (XF86Config-4).

When I configure X11 to use nvidia instead of nv, the machine
crashes like you described. nv is working.


Some weeks ago I tried Ubuntu unstable, but didn't use it anymore since
then. When this problem occured, I booted into Ubuntu just to see it
crashing like you described, even it was working before Bios-Update and
I didn't reconfigure anything. That means: X.org is hit by the problem
also, exactly like XFree. Maybe using nv instead of nvidia made you
believe Ubuntu would run? And up/downgrading the kernel may have broken
the nvidia module, so nv is used instead, so that made you believe the
kernel-up/downgrade fixed it?


I've to agree: Asus broke our machines.

Bye,
Ratti



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Re: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011

2005-05-05 Thread nor




I got the same problem some months ago with a radeon 9600, so I
installed the ubuntu x.org version.
This didn't solve my problem, so I remove all packages relative to
XFree and then I purge it. And then reinstall them.
After that the problem disappeared, I don't know what was the reason
but maybe it can help you.

Nor.

Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote:

  Am Mittwoch, den 04.05.2005, 15:41 + schrieb Jean-Luc Coulon 

  
  
I've an ASUS A8V Deluxe with an ASUS A9250T/D video card.
I've just updated my BIOS from 1009 to 1011.

After this update, the machine boot fine and the display works in  
cosole mode but while swtiching to X when gdm starts, I get a black  
screen with only the cursor image in white.

The machine is still alive and I can access it via ssh. But I cannot  
even swith to a console and try a "blind reboot" with AltCtrlFn  
and then log in. I cannot kill the X server with AltCtrlBackspace.

  
  
Me2. 
Same board, but I use sid-32bit.

It seems to be a mess, but works: I use the "nvidia" module (lsmod), but
for X11 I use "nv" (XF86Config-4).

When I configure X11 to use "nvidia" instead of "nv", the machine
crashes like you described. "nv" is working.


Some weeks ago I tried Ubuntu unstable, but didn't use it anymore since
then. When this problem occured, I booted into Ubuntu just to see it
crashing like you described, even it was working before Bios-Update and
I didn't reconfigure anything. That means: X.org is hit by the problem
also, exactly like XFree. Maybe using nv instead of nvidia made you
believe Ubuntu would run? And up/downgrading the kernel may have broken
the nvidia module, so nv is used instead, so that made you believe the
kernel-up/downgrade fixed it?


I've to agree: Asus broke our machines.

Bye,
Ratti



  






Re: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011

2005-05-05 Thread Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh)
Le 05.05.2005 17:01:37, nor a écrit :
I got the same problem some months ago with a radeon 9600, so I  
installed the ubuntu x.org version.
This didn't solve my problem, so I remove all packages relative to  
XFree and then I purge it. And then reinstall them.
After that the problem disappeared, I don't know what was the reason  
but maybe it can help you.

I tried to remove and reinstall X and this didnt help.
But reverting to 1009 firmawre fixed the problem.
Jean-Luc


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Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011

2005-05-04 Thread Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh)
Hi guys,
I've an ASUS A8V Deluxe with an ASUS A9250T/D video card.
I've just updated my BIOS from 1009 to 1011.
After this update, the machine boot fine and the display works in  
cosole mode but while swtiching to X when gdm starts, I get a black  
screen with only the cursor image in white.

The machine is still alive and I can access it via ssh. But I cannot  
even swith to a console and try a blind reboot with AltCtrlFn  
and then log in. I cannot kill the X server with AltCtrlBackspace.

If I boot the machine using Ubuntu live CD, it works.
If then I reboot (not power off the box) the system, then my normal  
Debian system works.

I've reverted to BIOS revison 1009 and this fix the problem.
I've asked Asus support, the reply (In French) is that they have no  
UNIX/linux support for the moment, sorry for the inconvenient.

Do you havea any idea of what can be the cause of this problem ?
I use the free Xfree86 driver radeon.
The display is an IBM P200, 20 tested at various resolutions.
Jean-Luc


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Re: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011

2005-05-04 Thread Sythos
On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 03:41:12PM +, Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) wrote:
 I use the free Xfree86 driver radeon.
 The display is an IBM P200, 20 tested at various resolutions.

If you have specified the PCI address of radeon card in XF86Config-4 try
to comment it out (#), its' probably the address is changed when you
upgrade BIOS (ESCD  NVRAM of some PnP BIOS do some funny joke during
upgrade)

Regards


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Re: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011

2005-05-04 Thread Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh)
Le 04.05.2005 17:46:27, Sythos a écrit :
On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 03:41:12PM +, Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh)
wrote:
 I use the free Xfree86 driver radeon.
 The display is an IBM P200, 20 tested at various resolutions.
If you have specified the PCI address of radeon card in XF86Config-4
try
to comment it out (#), its' probably the address is changed when you
upgrade BIOS (ESCD  NVRAM of some PnP BIOS do some funny joke during
upgrade)
No, I've not it.
I tried to set/unset PnPOs in the BIOS and to play with the AGP  
parameters without any success so far.
Everything looks fine in teh syslog and the XFreee86.0.log


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Re: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011

2005-05-04 Thread Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh)
Le 04.05.2005 19:48:50, Daniel Rauhaus a écrit :
Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
[ ... ]
Good to know I'm not the only one having problems with the 1011 BIOS.
I'm using the proprietary NVIDIA driver on 32-bit Ubuntu Hoary and
I've
experienced the same problems (well, almost the same, no cursor image
here :-)
I fixed it first by using kernel 2.6.11, but I got a lot of crashes
after that. I've reverted to 2.6.10 now and it seems to work.
I'm running 2.6.11 ...
[ ... ]
I would be glad if they told us what they have fixed in the upgrade
apart from the two meagre lines in the changelog.
 I've asked Asus support, the reply (In French) is that they have no
=20
 UNIX/linux support for the moment, sorry for the inconvenient.

 Do you havea any idea of what can be the cause of this problem ?
Unfortunately not - apart from ASUS's attitude :-(
One the reply there was a question:
How would you rate the quality of this mail?
Poor 1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  Outstanding
Guess the answer...
Regards,
Daniel
P.S. I hope this message gets through, I'm trying the gmane.org
gateway.

Jean-Luc


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