Re: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011
Hi, I know, this thread is 6 weeks old, but... solved. Finally. On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 15:08 +0200, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: > Am Mittwoch, den 04.05.2005, 15:41 + schrieb Jean-Luc Coulon > > > I've an ASUS A8V Deluxe with an ASUS A9250T/D video card. > > I've just updated my BIOS from 1009 to 1011. > > > > After this update, the machine boot fine and the display works in > > cosole mode but while swtiching to X when gdm starts, I get a black > > screen with only the cursor image in white. Me2 with an K8V Deluxe. Today a beta(!)-Bios was released that seems to fix the problem. I can see my desktop again, and glxgears runs fine. ftp://ftp.asuscom.de/pub/ASUSCOM/BIOS/Socket_754/VIA_Chipset/K8T800/K8V_Deluxe/ 1011d_02.zip Bye, Ratti -- -o) fontlinge | Fontmanagement for Linux | Schriftenverwaltung in Linux /\\ http://freshmeat.net/projects/fontlinge/ _\_V http://www.gesindel.de https://sourceforge.net/projects/fontlinge/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [solved in 1013] Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 06:00:39PM +, Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) wrote: > Just tried the brand new 1013. > > And in the comments (we cannot call that changelog), there is "AGP > aperture problem fix" They admitted something. Yay! Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[solved in 1013] Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011
Hi, Le 10.05.2005 13:46:26, Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) a écrit : Le 10.05.2005 12:32:28, Marko Kaiser a écrit : Hi all, I had this trouble too on my Asus A8V with Version 1011 BIOS. After I upgraded the BIOS to 1012-xyz that problem disappeared. Even on Windows 2000 sporadic gfx problems occured with the 1011 BIOS! Just tried 1012.012, if I reboot just after the upgrade everything went fine. If I power cycle the pachine, then I get a black screen when entering X So, back to 1009 Just tried the brand new 1013. And in the comments (we cannot call that changelog), there is "AGP aperture problem fix" Best regards, Marko Regards Jean-Luc pgp6n69RKWDV4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011
Le 10.05.2005 12:32:28, Marko Kaiser a écrit : Hi all, I had this trouble too on my Asus A8V with Version 1011 BIOS. After I upgraded the BIOS to 1012-xyz that problem disappeared. Even on Windows 2000 sporadic gfx problems occured with the 1011 BIOS! Just tried 1012.012, if I reboot just after the upgrade everything went fine. If I power cycle the pachine, then I get a black screen when entering X So, back to 1009 Best regards, Marko Regards Jean-Luc pgpi4EIgzd84U.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011
Hi all, I had this trouble too on my Asus A8V with Version 1011 BIOS. After I upgraded the BIOS to 1012-xyz that problem disappeared. Even on Windows 2000 sporadic gfx problems occured with the 1011 BIOS! Best regards, Marko -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AW: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011
Give me some minutes :)) Actually have to get of work this afternoon, install new bios stuff, and then sit there an wait that this thing crashes my system ;)) Hopefully not. And see me sittin there for weeks and scooping at my runnin system ;)) Thx ingo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Dienstag, 10. Mai 2005 11:53 An: debian-amd64@lists.debian.org Betreff: Re: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011 Le 10.05.2005 11:44:28, Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) a écrit : > Le 10.05.2005 11:25:59, Jannick Ingo a écrit : >> Hiho.. >> >> So whats the point about your actual problem: >> >> Did you updated your BIOS or so ? >> >> I recently switched to debian back again. Because these same strange >> things used to happen under gentoo too. Thought it had something to >> do >> with the patchtree they are aplyiing to their sources. >> You might want to take a look at the corresponding gentoo-forum >> thread >> (more than 28 pages): >> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-198023-highlight-lockups.html >> >> >> But that puts the whole case under another light. > > In *my* case (Asus A8V Deluxe + Radeon 9250 and free drivers), I've > reverted to BIOS 1009 and this fixed the problem. By the way, I've seent here is a 1012.002 Beta version of this BIOS (only downloadable from China, others links / repository are dead ;-) ) Any candidate to test it ? Jean-Luc
Re: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011
Le 10.05.2005 11:44:28, Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) a écrit : Le 10.05.2005 11:25:59, Jannick Ingo a écrit : Hiho.. So whats the point about your actual problem: Did you updated your BIOS or so ? I recently switched to debian back again. Because these same strange things used to happen under gentoo too. Thought it had something to do with the patchtree they are aplyiing to their sources. You might want to take a look at the corresponding gentoo-forum thread (more than 28 pages): http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-198023-highlight-lockups.html But that puts the whole case under another light. In *my* case (Asus A8V Deluxe + Radeon 9250 and free drivers), I've reverted to BIOS 1009 and this fixed the problem. By the way, I've seent here is a 1012.002 Beta version of this BIOS (only downloadable from China, others links / repository are dead ;-) ) Any candidate to test it ? Jean-Luc pgpgxWthAb9rK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011
Le 10.05.2005 11:25:59, Jannick Ingo a écrit : Hiho.. So whats the point about your actual problem: Did you updated your BIOS or so ? I recently switched to debian back again. Because these same strange things used to happen under gentoo too. Thought it had something to do with the patchtree they are aplyiing to their sources. You might want to take a look at the corresponding gentoo-forum thread (more than 28 pages): http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-198023-highlight-lockups.html But that puts the whole case under another light. In *my* case (Asus A8V Deluxe + Radeon 9250 and free drivers), I've reverted to BIOS 1009 and this fixed the problem. ingo Jean-Luc pgpQmfMRYZCjd.pgp Description: PGP signature
AW: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011
Hiho.. So whats the point about your actual problem: Did you updated your BIOS or so ? I recently switched to debian back again. Because these same strange things used to happen under gentoo too. Thought it had something to do with the patchtree they are aplyiing to their sources. You might want to take a look at the corresponding gentoo-forum thread (more than 28 pages): http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-198023-highlight-lockups.html But that puts the whole case under another light. ingo
Re: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011
On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 10:30:38PM +0200, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: > No, he quoted my mail, I just didn't post that very long part into the > list. It just would make it even more ridiculous ("I have an Asus K8V > deluxe..." "What board do you have?") if grep "Bios.*update.*problem" inputdata; then send "Bios repair procedures FAQ"; fi Did you actually think a person read it? :) I wonder if the person dealing with the message knows the same language as you. Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011
Am Montag, den 09.05.2005, 19:12 + schrieb Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh): > Le 09.05.2005 20:55:17, Joerg Rossdeutscher a écrit : > > > And if your bios chipset is corrupt ,the main boot block of bios is > > > damaged , > > Crazy. > > > > The problem is: Their bios breaks the nvidia drivers. And these guy > > tells me something about broken eeproms and flashing the wrong bios. > > Yes really crazy. > In your case, probably you got the answer for the question of an other > guy... No, he quoted my mail, I just didn't post that very long part into the list. It just would make it even more ridiculous ("I have an Asus K8V deluxe..." "What board do you have?") Bye, Ratti -- -o) fontlinge | Fontmanagement for Linux | Schriftenverwaltung in Linux /\\ http://freshmeat.net/projects/fontlinge/ _\_V http://www.gesindel.de https://sourceforge.net/projects/fontlinge/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011
Le 09.05.2005 20:55:17, Joerg Rossdeutscher a écrit : Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 04.05.2005, 15:41 + schrieb Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh): > I've asked Asus support, the reply (In French) is that "they have no > UNIX/linux support for the moment, sorry for the inconvenient". I've also contacted Asus. The answer I got today is... bizzare: > Dear Friend : > Thank you for contacting ASUS Customer Service. > My name is and I would be assisting you today > > Sir, What's the motherboard do you have ? A8V deluxe ? K8V deluxe ? or > K8V ? do you have use other motherboard bios (eg , k8v deluxe) to > update A8V deluxe . Thanks a lot for your information . by the way , > you don't use other motherboard bios to update this motherboard . Or > it will kill your bios chipset . > > And if your bios chipset is corrupt ,the main boot block of bios is > damaged , > > so you can not re-flash it back because the system won't boot . > > if you have a eeprom programmer you can use it to write bios chip > back ; > > If you have another ASUS board( same type and same PCB version) ,you > can use "hot-swap" method to write bios back . > > > if above 2 ways are all impossible ,you need contact your mother board > dealer to send this faulty board to! repaired . > > > > Best regards ! Crazy. The problem is: Their bios breaks the nvidia drivers. And these guy tells me something about broken eeproms and flashing the wrong bios. Yes really crazy. Some guys do "hot swap" of EEPROM from one motherboard to an other one when they have broken the BIOS in such a way they can't flash it back. I've read some guys doing so from one motherbord to an other model. It seeems to work but you ahve to keep the motherboard powered while doing so and the EEPROM have to be the same model. In your case, probably you got the answer for the question of an other guy... Rated zero. Of course Bye, Ratti Jean-Luc pgpS02eXGNtzC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011
Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 04.05.2005, 15:41 + schrieb Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh): > I've asked Asus support, the reply (In French) is that "they have no > UNIX/linux support for the moment, sorry for the inconvenient". I've also contacted Asus. The answer I got today is... bizzare: > Dear Friend : > Thank you for contacting ASUS Customer Service. > My name is and I would be assisting you today > > Sir, What's the motherboard do you have ? A8V deluxe ? K8V deluxe ? or > K8V ? do you have use other motherboard bios (eg , k8v deluxe) to > update A8V deluxe . Thanks a lot for your information . by the way , > you don't use other motherboard bios to update this motherboard . Or > it will kill your bios chipset . > > And if your bios chipset is corrupt ,the main boot block of bios is > damaged , > > so you can not re-flash it back because the system won't boot . > > if you have a eeprom programmer you can use it to write bios chip > back ; > > If you have another ASUS board( same type and same PCB version) ,you > can use "hot-swap" method to write bios back . > > > if above 2 ways are all impossible ,you need contact your mother board > dealer to send this faulty board to! repaired . > > > > Best regards ! Crazy. The problem is: Their bios breaks the nvidia drivers. And these guy tells me something about broken eeproms and flashing the wrong bios. Rated zero. Bye, Ratti -- -o) fontlinge | Fontmanagement for Linux | Schriftenverwaltung in Linux /\\ http://freshmeat.net/projects/fontlinge/ _\_V http://www.gesindel.de https://sourceforge.net/projects/fontlinge/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011
On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 07:47:02PM +, Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) wrote: > And they cannot report the problem to the graphic card maker: I've an > ASUS too ;-) Excapt the chip on the card is an ATI and the driver is written by ATI or against ATI specs. > I've no windows to test. Maybe it that would need a try just after > testing the fglrx. After all if it breaks XP, they just might start to care what they broke. Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011
Le 06.05.2005 20:40:28, Lennart Sorensen a écrit : On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 02:45:02PM +, Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) wrote: > Yes, you are right, but this upgrade is for the support for the new ad > core (Venice). So this means we are stuck with the running processor. > Or maybe there will be an other fix later ... Try asking ATI. Maybe if ATI asks asus someone will work something out since without sources (which ati has) you can't tell what is going wrong in the driver really. I imagine it is some simple setting they got wrong in the new bios. Or perhaps you have to set a new option different than the default in the new bios. No, I've took care to set exactly the same options (as long as there are available, but it was at least the case for the AGP stuff). Maybe I've to try the fglrx drivers before asking ATI. I think it will be the next step. > Ubuntu use xorg instead of xfree, the driver is "ati" (BTW, "ati" > doesnt work on my system both with 64 and 32 bit, I've to use "radeon"). Is there a radeon driver on ubuntu? If so does it break too? I cannot remember. I have used a live CD and the card is autodetected. BTW, radeon is not an option when you install xfree86 in Debian, it is ati. I've read somewhere that both are identical, but I've not the same result with both of them. > What I did. But this is not a long term solution. And the politic of > Asus is not acceptable. 1009 is not bug free. i.e. : try the auto > overclocking mode.. Other problem : if I left agp fastwrite to enabled, > I get a machine check. Well it is certainly not a good move on their part. Linux users might stop recomending Asus, which I know a lot have been, since they have generally been very well built and very well supported. And they cannot report the problem to the graphic card maker: I've an ASUS too ;-) > The changelog for the ASUS BIOS doesnt represent the changes. Many > other things have been changed : the way the DDR is managed, some > options have beed added, other suppressed... I agree the changelogs are pathetic for their bios upgrades. > This is what I did and if you refer to my previous post they reply tehy > have no UNIX/linux support. > > And I consider *this* is the worse in ths problem.. It would be a shame if one of the best motherboard vendors end up going down because of that kind of attitude. Does it affect the ati windows drivers I wonder... :) Unfortunately it probably doesn't. I've no windows to test. Maybe it that would need a try just after testing the fglrx. Len Sorensen J-L pgpVTpJ231RzC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011
Le 06.05.2005 20:27:53, Joerg Rossdeutscher a écrit : Hi, Am Freitag, den 06.05.2005, 09:34 -0400 schrieb Lennart Sorensen: > Upgrading is for fixing problems. I do not agree with you. That may have been that way in the 90s, when a Bios was "a program that boots your OS". Nowadays technology is moving very fast, and I want to use modern features like powermanagement, Firewire, Instant-On, ... This machine is not a server, it's my fun-at-home-computer. If the bios breaks - it's not a big deal. Asus-bords can flash a new Bios at boot-time directly from a 3,5"-disk And even without a floppy : if you have the 18V.ROM file on a CD, you can use EZ6Flash from the CD. Juste type F2 and wait 3 seconds for the timout finding the floppy (I've no floppy on this machine), it will look then at the CD. without needing any OS or software, and they can fallback on an emergency-Bios in case of problems. So I install any Bios-Upgrade immediately. When I boot into linux, some of the modules ouptput "unhappy" messages about the hardware ("...implementation of blabla is broken, tell your vendor to fix, get an update..."), and I think this is also meant seriously by the authors. Bye, Ratti Jean-Luc pgplIUSZMAk1w.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011
On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 02:45:02PM +, Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) wrote: > Yes, you are right, but this upgrade is for the support for the new ad > core (Venice). So this means we are stuck with the running processor. > Or maybe there will be an other fix later ... Try asking ATI. Maybe if ATI asks asus someone will work something out since without sources (which ati has) you can't tell what is going wrong in the driver really. I imagine it is some simple setting they got wrong in the new bios. Or perhaps you have to set a new option different than the default in the new bios. > Ubuntu use xorg instead of xfree, the driver is "ati" (BTW, "ati" > doesnt work on my system both with 64 and 32 bit, I've to use "radeon"). Is there a radeon driver on ubuntu? If so does it break too? > What I did. But this is not a long term solution. And the politic of > Asus is not acceptable. 1009 is not bug free. i.e. : try the auto > overclocking mode.. Other problem : if I left agp fastwrite to enabled, > I get a machine check. Well it is certainly not a good move on their part. Linux users might stop recomending Asus, which I know a lot have been, since they have generally been very well built and very well supported. > The changelog for the ASUS BIOS doesnt represent the changes. Many > other things have been changed : the way the DDR is managed, some > options have beed added, other suppressed... I agree the changelogs are pathetic for their bios upgrades. > This is what I did and if you refer to my previous post they reply tehy > have no UNIX/linux support. > > And I consider *this* is the worse in ths problem.. It would be a shame if one of the best motherboard vendors end up going down because of that kind of attitude. Does it affect the ati windows drivers I wonder... :) Unfortunately it probably doesn't. Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011
Hi, Am Freitag, den 06.05.2005, 09:34 -0400 schrieb Lennart Sorensen: > Upgrading is for fixing problems. I do not agree with you. That may have been that way in the 90s, when a Bios was "a program that boots your OS". Nowadays technology is moving very fast, and I want to use modern features like powermanagement, Firewire, Instant-On, ... This machine is not a server, it's my fun-at-home-computer. If the bios breaks - it's not a big deal. Asus-bords can flash a new Bios at boot-time directly from a 3,5"-disk without needing any OS or software, and they can fallback on an emergency-Bios in case of problems. So I install any Bios-Upgrade immediately. When I boot into linux, some of the modules ouptput "unhappy" messages about the hardware ("...implementation of blabla is broken, tell your vendor to fix, get an update..."), and I think this is also meant seriously by the authors. Bye, Ratti -- -o) fontlinge | Fontmanagement for Linux | Schriftenverwaltung in Linux /\\ http://freshmeat.net/projects/fontlinge/ _\_V http://www.gesindel.de https://sourceforge.net/projects/fontlinge/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011
Le 06.05.2005 15:34:43, Lennart Sorensen a écrit : On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 03:41:12PM +, Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) wrote: > I've an ASUS A8V Deluxe with an ASUS A9250T/D video card. > I've just updated my BIOS from 1009 to 1011. > > After this update, the machine boot fine and the display works in > cosole mode but while swtiching to X when gdm starts, I get a black > screen with only the cursor image in white. Well running 1009 still on mine and it works perfectly, which of course means I have no reason to consider upgrading the bios. Upgrading is for fixing problems. If you don't have any, don't upgrade, sice the only thing it can do is either nothing or break something. It can't be better than all working after all. Yes, you are right, but this upgrade is for the support for the new ad core (Venice). So this means we are stuck with the running processor. Or maybe there will be an other fix later ... > The machine is still alive and I can access it via ssh. But I cannot > even swith to a console and try a "blind reboot" with > and then log in. I cannot kill the X server with . > > If I boot the machine using Ubuntu live CD, it works. > If then I reboot (not power off the box) the system, then my normal > Debian system works. Does ubuntu use vesa or something instead of the binary only driver (which does agp drm stuff)? Ubuntu use xorg instead of xfree, the driver is "ati" (BTW, "ati" doesnt work on my system both with 64 and 32 bit, I've to use "radeon"). > I've reverted to BIOS revison 1009 and this fix the problem. > > I've asked Asus support, the reply (In French) is that "they have no > UNIX/linux support for the moment, sorry for the inconvenient". > > Do you havea any idea of what can be the cause of this problem ? > > I use the free Xfree86 driver "radeon". > The display is an IBM P200, 20" tested at various resolutions. The monitor will not crash the machine. :) Well unless the DDC parser is garbage and the data is bad. If you have no problems with 1009, just keep using it. What I did. But this is not a long term solution. And the politic of Asus is not acceptable. 1009 is not bug free. i.e. : try the auto overclocking mode.. Other problem : if I left agp fastwrite to enabled, I get a machine check. Some years ago I had a bios upgrade (I used to think you should always upgrade too) which made the adaptec 2940uw card just disappear (never initialized) which of course made booting from the scsi hd a bit of a problem. Fortunately I kept the old bios on a floppy so I could boot the system from floppy (after disabling the scsi bios in the adaptec setup since it actuall crashed the boot when enabled), after which I could downgrade the bios, then reanable the scsi bios and the system was back to normal. Now I only upgrade the bios when I have stuff not working that is listed as fixed. The changelog for the ASUS BIOS doesnt represent the changes. Many other things have been changed : the way the DDR is managed, some options have beed added, other suppressed... dvdwriter firmware on the other hand I do find uses in upgrading since they keep adding support for newer media (and sometimes they up the speed of the drive too like on the PX716A which went from 4x to 6x DL support). I guess you can send back a message to asus that the 1011 bios breaks nvidia and ati accelerated X drivers while 1009 works. Maybe they can consider what they may have broken. Who knows what else it might affect in suttle ways. This is what I did and if you refer to my previous post they reply tehy have no UNIX/linux support. And I consider *this* is the worse in ths problem.. Len Sorensen Jean-Luc pgpSmSDbblPlb.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011
On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 03:41:12PM +, Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) wrote: > I've an ASUS A8V Deluxe with an ASUS A9250T/D video card. > I've just updated my BIOS from 1009 to 1011. > > After this update, the machine boot fine and the display works in > cosole mode but while swtiching to X when gdm starts, I get a black > screen with only the cursor image in white. Well running 1009 still on mine and it works perfectly, which of course means I have no reason to consider upgrading the bios. Upgrading is for fixing problems. If you don't have any, don't upgrade, sice the only thing it can do is either nothing or break something. It can't be better than all working after all. > The machine is still alive and I can access it via ssh. But I cannot > even swith to a console and try a "blind reboot" with > and then log in. I cannot kill the X server with . > > If I boot the machine using Ubuntu live CD, it works. > If then I reboot (not power off the box) the system, then my normal > Debian system works. Does ubuntu use vesa or something instead of the binary only driver (which does agp drm stuff)? > I've reverted to BIOS revison 1009 and this fix the problem. > > I've asked Asus support, the reply (In French) is that "they have no > UNIX/linux support for the moment, sorry for the inconvenient". > > Do you havea any idea of what can be the cause of this problem ? > > I use the free Xfree86 driver "radeon". > The display is an IBM P200, 20" tested at various resolutions. The monitor will not crash the machine. :) Well unless the DDC parser is garbage and the data is bad. If you have no problems with 1009, just keep using it. Some years ago I had a bios upgrade (I used to think you should always upgrade too) which made the adaptec 2940uw card just disappear (never initialized) which of course made booting from the scsi hd a bit of a problem. Fortunately I kept the old bios on a floppy so I could boot the system from floppy (after disabling the scsi bios in the adaptec setup since it actuall crashed the boot when enabled), after which I could downgrade the bios, then reanable the scsi bios and the system was back to normal. Now I only upgrade the bios when I have stuff not working that is listed as fixed. dvdwriter firmware on the other hand I do find uses in upgrading since they keep adding support for newer media (and sometimes they up the speed of the drive too like on the PX716A which went from 4x to 6x DL support). I guess you can send back a message to asus that the 1011 bios breaks nvidia and ati accelerated X drivers while 1009 works. Maybe they can consider what they may have broken. Who knows what else it might affect in suttle ways. Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011
Le 05.05.2005 17:01:37, nor a écrit : I got the same problem some months ago with a radeon 9600, so I installed the ubuntu x.org version. This didn't solve my problem, so I remove all packages relative to XFree and then I purge it. And then reinstall them. After that the problem disappeared, I don't know what was the reason but maybe it can help you. I tried to remove and reinstall X and this didnt help. But reverting to 1009 firmawre fixed the problem. Jean-Luc pgp6JLF1Xs7dg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011
I got the same problem some months ago with a radeon 9600, so I installed the ubuntu x.org version. This didn't solve my problem, so I remove all packages relative to XFree and then I purge it. And then reinstall them. After that the problem disappeared, I don't know what was the reason but maybe it can help you. Nor. Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 04.05.2005, 15:41 + schrieb Jean-Luc Coulon I've an ASUS A8V Deluxe with an ASUS A9250T/D video card. I've just updated my BIOS from 1009 to 1011. After this update, the machine boot fine and the display works in cosole mode but while swtiching to X when gdm starts, I get a black screen with only the cursor image in white. The machine is still alive and I can access it via ssh. But I cannot even swith to a console and try a "blind reboot" with and then log in. I cannot kill the X server with . Me2. Same board, but I use sid-32bit. It seems to be a mess, but works: I use the "nvidia" module (lsmod), but for X11 I use "nv" (XF86Config-4). When I configure X11 to use "nvidia" instead of "nv", the machine crashes like you described. "nv" is working. Some weeks ago I tried Ubuntu unstable, but didn't use it anymore since then. When this problem occured, I booted into Ubuntu just to see it crashing like you described, even it was working before Bios-Update and I didn't reconfigure anything. That means: X.org is hit by the problem also, exactly like XFree. Maybe using nv instead of nvidia made you believe Ubuntu would run? And up/downgrading the kernel may have broken the nvidia module, so nv is used instead, so that made you believe the kernel-up/downgrade fixed it? I've to agree: Asus broke our machines. Bye, Ratti
Re: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011
Am Mittwoch, den 04.05.2005, 15:41 + schrieb Jean-Luc Coulon > I've an ASUS A8V Deluxe with an ASUS A9250T/D video card. > I've just updated my BIOS from 1009 to 1011. > > After this update, the machine boot fine and the display works in > cosole mode but while swtiching to X when gdm starts, I get a black > screen with only the cursor image in white. > > The machine is still alive and I can access it via ssh. But I cannot > even swith to a console and try a "blind reboot" with > and then log in. I cannot kill the X server with . Me2. Same board, but I use sid-32bit. It seems to be a mess, but works: I use the "nvidia" module (lsmod), but for X11 I use "nv" (XF86Config-4). When I configure X11 to use "nvidia" instead of "nv", the machine crashes like you described. "nv" is working. Some weeks ago I tried Ubuntu unstable, but didn't use it anymore since then. When this problem occured, I booted into Ubuntu just to see it crashing like you described, even it was working before Bios-Update and I didn't reconfigure anything. That means: X.org is hit by the problem also, exactly like XFree. Maybe using nv instead of nvidia made you believe Ubuntu would run? And up/downgrading the kernel may have broken the nvidia module, so nv is used instead, so that made you believe the kernel-up/downgrade fixed it? I've to agree: Asus broke our machines. Bye, Ratti -- -o) fontlinge | Fontmanagement for Linux | Schriftenverwaltung in Linux /\\ http://freshmeat.net/projects/fontlinge/ _\_V http://www.gesindel.de https://sourceforge.net/projects/fontlinge/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011
Le 04.05.2005 19:48:50, Daniel Rauhaus a écrit : Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: [ ... ] Good to know I'm not the only one having problems with the 1011 BIOS. I'm using the proprietary NVIDIA driver on 32-bit Ubuntu Hoary and I've experienced the same problems (well, almost the same, no cursor image here :-) I fixed it first by using kernel 2.6.11, but I got a lot of crashes after that. I've reverted to 2.6.10 now and it seems to work. I'm running 2.6.11 ... [ ... ] I would be glad if they told us what they have "fixed" in the upgrade apart from the two meagre lines in the changelog. > I've asked Asus support, the reply (In French) is that "they have no =20 > UNIX/linux support for the moment, sorry for the inconvenient". > > Do you havea any idea of what can be the cause of this problem ? Unfortunately not - apart from ASUS's attitude :-( One the reply there was a question: How would you rate the quality of this mail? Poor 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Outstanding Guess the answer... Regards, Daniel P.S. I hope this message gets through, I'm trying the gmane.org gateway. Jean-Luc pgp6WvwW6OYkE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011
Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > I've an ASUS A8V Deluxe with an ASUS A9250T/D video card. > I've just updated my BIOS from 1009 to 1011. > > After this update, the machine boot fine and the display works in =20 > cosole mode but while swtiching to X when gdm starts, I get a black =20 > screen with only the cursor image in white. > > The machine is still alive and I can access it via ssh. But I cannot =20 > even swith to a console and try a "blind reboot" with =20 > and then log in. I cannot kill the X server with . Good to know I'm not the only one having problems with the 1011 BIOS. I'm using the proprietary NVIDIA driver on 32-bit Ubuntu Hoary and I've experienced the same problems (well, almost the same, no cursor image here :-) I fixed it first by using kernel 2.6.11, but I got a lot of crashes after that. I've reverted to 2.6.10 now and it seems to work. > If I boot the machine using Ubuntu live CD, it works. > If then I reboot (not power off the box) the system, then my normal =20 > Debian system works. > I've reverted to BIOS revison 1009 and this fix the problem. I would be glad if they told us what they have "fixed" in the upgrade apart from the two meagre lines in the changelog. > I've asked Asus support, the reply (In French) is that "they have no =20 > UNIX/linux support for the moment, sorry for the inconvenient". > > Do you havea any idea of what can be the cause of this problem ? Unfortunately not - apart from ASUS's attitude :-( Regards, Daniel P.S. I hope this message gets through, I'm trying the gmane.org gateway. > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011
Le 04.05.2005 17:46:27, Sythos a écrit : On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 03:41:12PM +, Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) wrote: > I use the free Xfree86 driver "radeon". > The display is an IBM P200, 20" tested at various resolutions. If you have specified the PCI address of radeon card in XF86Config-4 try to comment it out (#), its' probably the address is changed when you upgrade BIOS (ESCD & NVRAM of some PnP BIOS do some funny joke during upgrade) No, I've not it. I tried to set/unset PnPOs in the BIOS and to play with the AGP parameters without any success so far. Everything looks fine in teh syslog and the XFreee86.0.log Regards -- Sythos - http://www.sythos.net Regards Jean-Luc pgpO5dhkjhMBM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011
On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 03:41:12PM +, Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) wrote: > I use the free Xfree86 driver "radeon". > The display is an IBM P200, 20" tested at various resolutions. If you have specified the PCI address of radeon card in XF86Config-4 try to comment it out (#), its' probably the address is changed when you upgrade BIOS (ESCD & NVRAM of some PnP BIOS do some funny joke during upgrade) Regards -- Sythos - http://www.sythos.net () ASCII Ribbon Campaign - against html/rtf/vCard in mail /\- against M$ attachments -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asus A8V Deluxe, Xfree display problems with BIOS 1011
Hi guys, I've an ASUS A8V Deluxe with an ASUS A9250T/D video card. I've just updated my BIOS from 1009 to 1011. After this update, the machine boot fine and the display works in cosole mode but while swtiching to X when gdm starts, I get a black screen with only the cursor image in white. The machine is still alive and I can access it via ssh. But I cannot even swith to a console and try a "blind reboot" with and then log in. I cannot kill the X server with . If I boot the machine using Ubuntu live CD, it works. If then I reboot (not power off the box) the system, then my normal Debian system works. I've reverted to BIOS revison 1009 and this fix the problem. I've asked Asus support, the reply (In French) is that "they have no UNIX/linux support for the moment, sorry for the inconvenient". Do you havea any idea of what can be the cause of this problem ? I use the free Xfree86 driver "radeon". The display is an IBM P200, 20" tested at various resolutions. Jean-Luc pgpGfgSsEJYRx.pgp Description: PGP signature