Re: Athlon64 Dual Core powernow

2005-10-07 Thread Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh)

Le 07.10.2005 04:31:44, Karl Magdsick a écrit :

AMD Cool'n'Quiet is cpu_freq + automatic CPU voltage adjustment,
at least according to the blurbs on the Asus website.

I'm not sure how much OS cooperation is required and how
much bios tweaking is required.


I've a single core amd54 3500+, it switches automatically the frequency  
and the voltage: i.e. 1.15V 1GHz when idle so the processor temperature  
is about 30C int hese conditions (cool) and the fan speed can be  
adjusted for the system to be as quiet as possible.


For the fan, you can use thenam controlled fans or the fancontrol  
program which is part of the lm-sensors package






-Karl


 BTW: What is the AMD Cool'n'Quiet stuff? Is that just marketing
speak
 for cpu_freq?


Jean-Luc


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Re: Athlon64 Dual Core powernow

2005-10-07 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) wrote:

 For the fan, you can use thenam controlled fans or the fancontrol 
 program which is part of the lm-sensors package

OK, now I'm confused. Some googling around finds this AMD document:
http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/DownloadableAssets/Cool_N_Quiet_Installation_Guide3.pdf
which says:

All AMD Athlon 64 Processor-In-A-Box packages include thermally
controlled fans. A thermally controlled fan detects the current
temperature of the processor using a thermistor, and when a lower
temperature is detected the fan speed and noise is then reduced. Upon
detection of a higher temperature the fan speed is resumed at full speed
to appropriately cool the processor.

Now, I've managed to increase my CPU temp ~20F, yet the CPU fan speed
has not increased... and it's the funny-looking Cool'n'Quiet
fan/heatsink which came with the CPU.

Is 108F just too cool for it to do anything?

[The MB does have a PWM driver, but the MB manual insists Cool'n'Quiet
is something different.]

I guess I really shouldn't worry, though, as the CPU normally runs at
~84F, and its nice and quiet...


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Re: Athlon64 Dual Core powernow

2005-10-07 Thread Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh)

Le 08.10.2005 01:18:23, Anthony DeRobertis a écrit :

Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) wrote:

 For the fan, you can use thenam controlled fans or the fancontrol
 program which is part of the lm-sensors package

OK, now I'm confused. Some googling around finds this AMD document:
http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/DownloadableAssets/Cool_N_Quiet_Installation_Guide3.pdf
which says:

All AMD Athlon 64 Processor-In-A-Box packages include thermally
controlled fans. A thermally controlled fan detects the current
temperature of the processor using a thermistor, and when a lower
temperature is detected the fan speed and noise is then reduced. Upon
detection of a higher temperature the fan speed is resumed at full
speed
to appropriately cool the processor.


I was (trying to) build a quiet computer.

I've first used the heatsink sold with the processor (the one with  
theorically the thermistor). It run full speed (3000 rpm) regardless  
the processor temperature. The procesor was running about 29C idle and  
51C during burn tests.


Then I've used fancontrol to use the pwm capabilities of the  
motherboard. The fan was stopped when I stared the computer, full 3000  
rpm at full load and 1200-1800rpm most of the time.


I remarked that I began to hear it at about 1500 rpm.

I bought a Zalman CNPS7000B. I dont use anymore fancontrol and I use  
the fanmate potentiometer to adjust it at the lower possible speed  
which is about 1300-1400rpm. The temparature are the same as with the  
stock heatsink at 300rpm (idle temperature is 3C higher) and the system  
is quiet...




Now, I've managed to increase my CPU temp ~20F, yet the CPU fan speed
has not increased... and it's the funny-looking Cool'n'Quiet
fan/heatsink which came with the CPU.

Is 108F just too cool for it to do anything?

[The MB does have a PWM driver, but the MB manual insists Cool'n'Quiet
is something different.]

I guess I really shouldn't worry, though, as the CPU normally runs at
~84F, and its nice and quiet...


Jean-Luc


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Re: Athlon64 Dual Core powernow

2005-10-06 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
In The Night wrote:
 Which modules and what Mobo?

Mobo: Asus A8V
Modules: powernow_k8, cpufreq_ondemand (and dependss, of course)

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies
220 200 180 100

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
ondemand


BTW: What is the AMD Cool'n'Quiet stuff? Is that just marketing speak
for cpu_freq?


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Re: Athlon64 Dual Core powernow

2005-10-06 Thread Karl Magdsick
AMD Cool'n'Quiet is cpu_freq + automatic CPU voltage adjustment,
at least according to the blurbs on the Asus website.

I'm not sure how much OS cooperation is required and how
much bios tweaking is required.



-Karl


 BTW: What is the AMD Cool'n'Quiet stuff? Is that just marketing speak
 for cpu_freq?




Athlon64 Dual Core powernow

2005-10-05 Thread Alex Ferrara
I have used the powernow-k8 driver on many different motherboards and 
many athlon64 cpus. I have just installed a dual core cpu and the 
powernow-k8 driver says


powernow-k8: Found 1 AMD Athlon 64 / Opteron processors (version 1.40.4)
powernow-k8: BIOS error - no PSB or ACPI _PSS objects

Is this a bios problem or a module problem?

Has anyone had any joy in this area?

aF


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Re: Athlon64 Dual Core powernow

2005-10-05 Thread In The Night
No luck here...I've been running the X2 from Amd some months now, and it is a 
driver/module problem...


Alex Ferrara ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 I have used the powernow-k8 driver on many different motherboards and many 
 athlon64 cpus. I have just installed a dual core cpu 
 and the powernow-k8 driver says
 
 powernow-k8: Found 1 AMD Athlon 64 / Opteron processors (version 1.40.4)
 powernow-k8: BIOS error - no PSB or ACPI _PSS objects
 
 Is this a bios problem or a module problem?
 
 Has anyone had any joy in this area?
 
 aF
 
 
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Re: Athlon64 Dual Core powernow

2005-10-05 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 08:20:06PM +1000, Alex Ferrara wrote:

powernow-k8: Found 1 AMD Athlon 64 / Opteron processors (version 1.40.4)
powernow-k8: BIOS error - no PSB or ACPI _PSS objects
Is this a bios problem or a module problem?


Try a new BIOS version. I had the same problem and could solve it with
a BIOS update.

Shade and sweet water!

Stephan

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Re: Athlon64 Dual Core powernow

2005-10-05 Thread Raymond A. Meijer
On Wednesday 5 October 2005 13:56, Stephan Seitz wrote:

 Try a new BIOS version. I had the same problem and could solve it
 with a BIOS update.

I have an ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe with an X2 4800+. I'm going to install 
Debian soon (today or tomorrow) and I'll report my findings in this 
thread.


Cheers,

Ray


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Re: Athlon64 Dual Core powernow

2005-10-05 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
In The Night wrote:
 No luck here...I've been running the X2 from Amd some months now, and it is a 
 driver/module problem...

processor   : 0
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 15
model   : 35
model name  : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+
stepping: 2
cpu MHz : 1001.289
...
processor   : 1
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 15
model   : 35
model name  : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+
stepping: 2
cpu MHz : 1001.289


Works here.


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Re: Athlon64 Dual Core powernow

2005-10-05 Thread In The Night
Which modules and what Mobo?


Anthony DeRobertis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 In The Night wrote:
  No luck here...I've been running the X2 from Amd some months now, and it is 
  a driver/module problem...
 
 processor   : 0
 vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
 cpu family  : 15
 model   : 35
 model name  : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+
 stepping: 2
 cpu MHz : 1001.289
 ...
 processor   : 1
 vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
 cpu family  : 15
 model   : 35
 model name  : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+
 stepping: 2
 cpu MHz : 1001.289
 
 
 Works here.

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Re: Athlon64 Dual Core powernow

2005-10-05 Thread Soenke von Stamm
Funny, I only have the upper frequencies available, not the real power saving 
one (1000 MHz), see below. I think it's a BIOS problem, have a Shuttle 
ST20G5. Don't know the BIOS version ATM, nor if it's the newest (probably 
not, changed it several weeks ago), but it's DC-ready at least.

Modules:
powernow-k8
cpufreq_powersave
cpufreq_ondemand
cpufreq_userspace
cpufreq_stats
freq_table

uname -r: 2.6.12-1-k7-smp (yeah I know, IA32 ;)


yours,
 Sönke




cpufrequtils 0.3: cpufreq-info (C) Dominik Brodowski 2004
Report errors and bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED], please.
analyzing CPU 0:
  driver: powernow-k8
  CPUs which need to switch frequency at the same time: 0 1
  hardware limits: 1.80 GHz - 2.20 GHz
  available frequency steps: 2.20 GHz, 2.00 GHz, 1.80 GHz
  available cpufreq governors: userspace, ondemand, powersave, performance
  current policy: frequency should be within 1.80 GHz and 1.80 GHz.
  The governor powersave may decide which speed to use
  within this range.
  current CPU frequency is 1.80 GHz.
analyzing CPU 1:
  driver: powernow-k8
  CPUs which need to switch frequency at the same time: 0 1
  hardware limits: 1.80 GHz - 2.20 GHz
  available frequency steps: 2.20 GHz, 2.00 GHz, 1.80 GHz
  available cpufreq governors: userspace, ondemand, powersave, performance
  current policy: frequency should be within 1.80 GHz and 1.80 GHz.
  The governor powersave may decide which speed to use
  within this range.
  current CPU frequency is 1.80 GHz.



















Re: Athlon64 Dual Core powernow

2005-10-05 Thread Alex Ferrara

I am running an Asus A8N SLI with a 3800+ Dual core

uname -r: 2.6.12-1-amd64-generic

(ok, I know no smp)

If I try and insert the powernow-k8 module, it whines and doesn't insert 
it. It must be a bios related issue I did read about a newer version 
of the powernow-k8 module was in the pipeline in 2.6.13.



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