Re: List split?
Debian-amd64 is still not an official debian port is it?? I was under that impression... so surely until it *does* become official, it'll just stay like this? Tell me if I'm wrong, or been living under a rock for 20 years :) John Goerzen wrote: On Tue, Mar 29, 2005 at 01:18:34PM -0800, Ryan Lovett wrote: Now that debian-amd64 is successful enough that newbies have managed to get it working, could the list be split into something like -user and -devel? I'm more interested in the development of the port and not other (still important) issues like how to get GNOME/KDE/networking/etc. working on amd64 which have dominated the list of late. Shouldn't most of those go to the regular debian-user list? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: List split?
On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 09:09:19AM +0100, James Titcumb wrote: Debian-amd64 is still not an official debian port is it?? I was under that impression... so surely until it *does* become official, it'll just stay like this? Tell me if I'm wrong, or been living under a rock for 20 years :) I don't think it matters that much... questions about setting up KDE, Gnome, networking, etc. are going to be pretty much the same regardless of what Debian platform one is using, and even though amd64 is not yet official, it is, for all practical purposes, Debian. -- John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: List split?
John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 09:09:19AM +0100, James Titcumb wrote: gt; Debian-amd64 is still not an official debian port is it?? I was under gt; that impression... so surely until it *does* become official, it'll just gt; stay like this? gt; gt; Tell me if I'm wrong, or been living under a rock for 20 years :) I don't think it matters that much... questions about setting up KDE, Gnome, networking, etc. are going to be pretty much the same regardless of what Debian platform one is using, and even though amd64 is not yet quot;officialquot;, it is, for all practical purposes, Debian. -- John Wouldn't it be slightly different for each arch though? In my experience for example, setting up nVidia drivers was completely different for amd64 as it was for x86... i.e. x86 you could install the nvidia drivers using the install script from the nvidia website, and on amd64 you have to compile a kernel module yourself. On the other hand of course, it could be generalized, as Debian has it's own heavily modified version of Gnome doesn't it? Therefore the amd64 will be based on the x86 version anyway (afaik, most, if not all packages on amd64 are based on x86.). I'm not entirely in the know about everything though, so that's just my view/opinion/whatever you like to call it :) ___ Sent Using: Total Carnage WebMail, with NOCC, http://nocc.sourceforge.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: List split?
On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 04:53:47PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wouldn't it be slightly different for each arch though? In my experience for example, setting up nVidia drivers was completely different for amd64 as it was for x86... i.e. x86 you could install the nvidia drivers using the install script from the nvidia website, and on amd64 you have to compile a kernel module yourself. In my experience installing nvidia drivers is done the same way on x86 and amd64 using nvidia-kernel-source package. No difference I can tell at least. On the other hand of course, it could be generalized, as Debian has it's own heavily modified version of Gnome doesn't it? Therefore the amd64 will be based on the x86 version anyway (afaik, most, if not all packages on amd64 are based on x86.). I'm not entirely in the know about everything though, so that's just my view/opinion/whatever you like to call it :) Most settings are the same on all debian architectures. Only driver settings differ, and in the case of 64bit systems there is the whole 32/64bit biarch mess. Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, Lennart Sorensen wrote: In my experience installing nvidia drivers is done the same way on x86 and amd64 using nvidia-kernel-source package. No difference I can tell at least. Am I the only one, or does the module-assistant break with the newest nvidia drivers in the corresponding nvidia-kernel-source? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 02:07:08PM -0500, David Wood wrote: Am I the only one, or does the module-assistant break with the newest nvidia drivers in the corresponding nvidia-kernel-source? I think I used m-a with the latest driver on x86. Haven't tried on amd64 personally in a while. Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
List split?
Now that debian-amd64 is successful enough that newbies have managed to get it working, could the list be split into something like -user and -devel? I'm more interested in the development of the port and not other (still important) issues like how to get GNOME/KDE/networking/etc. working on amd64 which have dominated the list of late. Just my 2 cents, Ryan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: List split?
On Tuesday 29 March 2005 4:38pm, John Goerzen wrote: On Tue, Mar 29, 2005 at 01:18:34PM -0800, Ryan Lovett wrote: Now that debian-amd64 is successful enough that newbies have managed to get it working, could the list be split into something like -user and -devel? I'm more interested in the development of the port and not other (still important) issues like how to get GNOME/KDE/networking/etc. working on amd64 which have dominated the list of late. Shouldn't most of those go to the regular debian-user list? When Debian officially adopts us eventually, a d-u equivalent is where the user-level stuff should go, but right now d-u is pretty much useless because all the AMD64 users are on this list. :) Seriously though, d-u's traffic is so high, I long ago gave up on it, even when I was still running i386. I don't know what the official position is on this, but I would prefer Debian keep the AMD64 specific user mailing list (the developers OTOH, may *want* to integrate into the official d-d, I don't know), since the regular d-u is now a de-facto i386-specific list. AMD64 users will just be drowned out on that list, forcing most of us to use Subject headers to separate us, e.g. Subject: [AMD64] xxx, at which point you have to ask, why bother? For a long while to come AMD64 users are going to have AMD64 specific issues/problems, so I believe we should keep our own specific user list for now. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
