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Am 2005-10-31 11:04:26, schrieb lordSauron: Besides the current set of mirrors seem pretty good to me. I often get 560KB/s on my 5Mbit link from the mirror I use. http works great for my needs. I hate you not really, I just hate that you get such fast downloads... y'know, that evious sorta hate? @home I am at http://www.wanadoo.fr/, have a 8 MBit ADSL and get around 832 kByte/sec from ftp.debian.org and ftp2.de.debian.org. My Servers in Pais/FR and Offenburg/DE are Sun with 96 x 74 GByte SCSI Drives divided into six Raid-5 of 1 TByte. The first Raid hold my full Debian-Mirror. The second Raid-Array is reserved for my PostgreSQL... Then I have an identical thirth Server which is curently in Strasbourg/FR but will go to Swiss if I find a place where I can put a 700kg 19 Rack... The first two are connected with a redunant E1 (~400 Euro/month in germany or 1300 Euro/month in France) curently... but will get update to E3 (1700 Euro/month in germany and 6000 Euro/month in france) in the future... Oh yes, traffic cost extra in germany... Greetings Michelle -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSM LinuxMichi 0033/3/8845235667100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2005-10-31 11:04:26, schrieb lordSauron: Besides the current set of mirrors seem pretty good to me. I often get 560KB/s on my 5Mbit link from the mirror I use. http works great for my needs. I hate you not really, I just hate that you get such fast downloads... y'know, that evious sorta hate? @home I am at http://www.wanadoo.fr/, have a 8 MBit ADSL and get around 832 kByte/sec from ftp.debian.org and ftp2.de.debian.org. Oh, be sure to search for a suitable local mirror. In germany I took the debian.tu-bs.de mirror (which was my local net *g*) and I got always 8 MB/sec from that archive. Now in austria I still got a local i386 mirror at tu-graz.at, but amd64 is only at inode.at, but at speed rates up to 5 MB/sec. So, be sure to select local mirrors. Greetings Michelle Cya Lars - -- - - TU Graz, Institut für ComputerGraphik WissensVisualisierung Tel.: +43 316 873-5405 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP-Key-ID: 0xB87A0E03 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDa4MdVguzrLh6DgMRAlSnAJ93m+zAOIOsjxRs04giOuT499cwKwCgg1gm WJmec+6aY6Lb3nFsla4wr4Y= =eXgH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 30 Oct 2005, lordSauron wrote: Cool. The initial rsync is done. I'm pulling from debian.csail.mit.edu currently twice a day. I'll set up to be a push server as soon as our networking group opens 22/tcp through the campus firewall. The URL is: --- http://mirror.tamu.edu/debian-amd64/ down/768Kbps up cable connection at home. I think we currently pay around $120,000USD for the OC-12 at work. A month or a year? That's an insane connection rate.. you've probably got a fibre LAN going in the building, right? Otherwise you'd be somewhat disabled by anything less than gigabit ethernet. They'll let you host that at your workplace though... That is per year. We have several pieces of fiber from our campus to Verizon (local phone provider). OC circuits use a different frame type separate from ethernet (see SONET/SDH information at Wikipedia if you want more information). We have a lot more than just data running across the fiber to the telco. Yes, Texas would be in my neck of the woods (I'm in California, so not *that* close, but closer than all the many German mirrors). I'm not sure if you were aware of debian.csail.mit.edu previously, but it should have been faster than the European mirrors for you. Anyway, try it or mine and see if things are better. -- Mark Nippere-contacts: 832 Tanglewood Drive[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bryan, Texas 77802-4013 http://nipsy.bitgnome.net/ (979)575-3193 AIM/Yahoo: texasnipsy ICQ: 66971617 -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GG/IT d- s++:+ a- C++$ UBL$ P---+++ L+++$ !E--- W++(--) N+ o K++ w(---) O++ M V(--) PS+++(+) PE(--) Y+ PGP t+ 5 X R tv b+++@ DI+(++) D+ G e h r++ y+(**) --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ---begin random quote of the moment--- A good traveller has no fixed plans and is not intent on arriving. -- Lao Tzu (570-490 BC) end random quote of the moment -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sat, Oct 29, 2005 at 06:10:21PM -0700, mike wrote: it might be off topic for this list, but i think it may be advantageous to think about using some sort of p2p type mechanism in the future. imagine an infinite supply of mirrors to grab the files from, instead of centrally-hosted sites with what seems to be regular turnover. obviously would still need to have some sort of central servers with the ports/packages list to verify the md5sum's of the files to ensure integrity... could leverage existing protocols like bittorrent too. Someone suggested that in the past. As far as I recall here are some of the problems that were pointed out: You would need a .torrent per deb file Many files are small while bittorrent is best for larger files that can be divided into blocks for parallel transfers. Someone has to generate all these torrent files and then you have to mirror those around so apt-get can get the torrent to then connect to a tracker to then start downloading the deb. Often for smaller deb files the actual download from http would have been faster. bittorrent makes sense for cd images (although even there the jigdo system makes more sense since you can update a 3.1r0 cd image to a 3.1r1 cd image by only downloading the actual changes, while bittorrent would find most of the image had changed and do nothing useful with the old data). Besides the current set of mirrors seem pretty good to me. I often get 560KB/s on my 5Mbit link from the mirror I use. http works great for my needs. Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 10/31/05, Lennart Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Oct 29, 2005 at 06:10:21PM -0700, mike wrote: it might be off topic for this list, but i think it may be advantageous to think about using some sort of p2p type mechanism in the future. imagine an infinite supply of mirrors to grab the files from, instead of centrally-hosted sites with what seems to be regular turnover. Well, if it's infinite, then EVERYONE is gonna need a bigger hard drive (I for one wouldn't mind if they sent me a nice happy 500gig SATA150 - I'd be more than happy to dedicate 300 gigs of that to a mirror, but as we all know, I'm in no place to host so much as a paperclip, much less a debian mirror!) obviously would still need to have some sort of central servers with the ports/packages list to verify the md5sum's of the files to ensure integrity... could leverage existing protocols like bittorrent too. Someone suggested that in the past. As far as I recall here are some of the problems that were pointed out: You would need a .torrent per deb file Many files are small while bittorrent is best for larger files that can be divided into blocks for parallel transfers. Someone has to generate all these torrent files and then you have to mirror those around so apt-get can get the torrent to then connect to a tracker to then start downloading the deb. Often for smaller deb files the actual download from http would have been faster. bittorrent makes sense for cd images (although even there the jigdo system makes more sense since you can update a 3.1r0 cd image to a 3.1r1 cd image by only downloading the actual changes, while bittorrent would find most of the image had changed and do nothing useful with the old data). Besides the current set of mirrors seem pretty good to me. I often get 560KB/s on my 5Mbit link from the mirror I use. http works great for my needs. I hate you not really, I just hate that you get such fast downloads... y'know, that evious sorta hate? -- === GCB v3.1 === GCS d-(+) s+:- a? C+() UL+++() P L++(+++) E- W+(+++) N++ w--- M++ PS-- PE Y+ PGP- t++(+++) 5? X? R !tv-- b++ DI+++ D-- G !e h(*) !r x--- === EGCB v3.1 ===
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well the idea was reusing the idea of a distributed/p2p mirroring concept. not necessarily tied to a specific protocol, but it is a standard... (and the .torrent files could be compiled just like the md5 signature files, still on a central mirror/mirrors, but those would only run trackers and not do a lot of seeding, it would be up to the rest of the world to seed) i know that i would run one of these. i would put an upload cap on it, since i don't have unmetered connectivity yet on my colocated cluster, but i would contribute. :) i'm just thinking of ways to offload reliance on the mirrors for -all- types of transfering. - mike On 10/31/05, Lennart Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone suggested that in the past. As far as I recall here are some of the problems that were pointed out: You would need a .torrent per deb file Many files are small while bittorrent is best for larger files that can be divided into blocks for parallel transfers. Someone has to generate all these torrent files and then you have to mirror those around so apt-get can get the torrent to then connect to a tracker to then start downloading the deb. Often for smaller deb files the actual download from http would have been faster. ...
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On 10/31/05, Mark Nipper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30 Oct 2005, lordSauron wrote: Cool. The initial rsync is done. I'm pulling from debian.csail.mit.edu currently twice a day. I'll set up to be a push server as soon as our networking group opens 22/tcp through the campus firewall. The URL is: --- http://mirror.tamu.edu/debian-amd64/ Awesome. I'll try plugging that into my sources.list file later after a bit more boring, required work is done. down/768Kbps up cable connection at home. I think we currently pay around $120,000USD for the OC-12 at work. A month or a year? That's an insane connection rate.. you've probably got a fibre LAN going in the building, right? Otherwise you'd be somewhat disabled by anything less than gigabit ethernet. They'll let you host that at your workplace though... That is per year. We have several pieces of fiber from our campus to Verizon (local phone provider). OC circuits use a different frame type separate from ethernet (see SONET/SDH information at Wikipedia if you want more information). We have a lot more than just data running across the fiber to the telco. SEVERAL Now I can believe $120,000/year. Give me your building addresses - I'm going to find you a cheaper provider. I want to see if a really good company called Hurricane Electric is right for you - they offer GIG-E connections, which is basically a gigabit ethernet connection to the internet. But no, you shouldn't be spending a eighth the cost of my house annually for internet. If you can get me this info, I can find you something cheaper: 1) building addresses 2) number of connections required per address (or the total bandwidth required) No, I'm not some weird Rasputin-esque rapist, I'm just one of the worlds greatest ranking tightwads who can't bear to see money spent, and I chafe greatly at the sight of money wasted. You're paying far too much and I need to find you some better service, even if I end up having to drive out to Texas and install it myself (I've offered to break through sheetrock to install a network connection in a public school before, so I'm normally this way, okay?) Yes, Texas would be in my neck of the woods (I'm in California, so not *that* close, but closer than all the many German mirrors). I'm not sure if you were aware of debian.csail.mit.edu previously, but it should have been faster than the European mirrors for you. Anyway, try it or mine and see if things are better. Yeah, goto Google Maps (www.maps.google.com) and goto Pleasanton California. That's where I live. Then find Amador Valley High School. That's where I go to school. I suggest veiwing in composite map mode, since that's the best blend of the local veiw and street directions. I won't tell you driectly where I live, since that's not smart on the internet, but I think you can safely tell me where your college is (you're just saving me the time of hunting down the addresses myself, and telling me how many connections you need). I tell you my city location b/c the espri.arizona mirror is closer than Michigan, but it's still not that fast... I'll try your new mirror to see how good it is. Since I'm rather new to Debian (only had it for about 2 months now) could you tell me the deb and deb-src entries I'd want to tell apt-get to use? I'm not terribly good at these things yet... I'm still rather proud of myself for getting beyond text mode and getting KDE installed. -- Mark Nippere-contacts: 832 Tanglewood Drive[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bryan, Texas 77802-4013 http://nipsy.bitgnome.net/ (979)575-3193 AIM/Yahoo: texasnipsy ICQ: 66971617 -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GG/IT d- s++:+ a- C++$ UBL$ P---+++ L+++$ !E--- W++(--) N+ o K++ w(---) O++ M V(--) PS+++(+) PE(--) Y+ PGP t+ 5 X R tv b+++@ DI+(++) D+ G e h r++ y+(**) --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ---begin random quote of the moment--- A good traveller has no fixed plans and is not intent on arriving. -- Lao Tzu (570-490 BC) end random quote of the moment -- === GCB v3.1 === GCS d-(+) s+:- a? C+() UL+++() P L++(+++) E- W+(+++) N++ w--- M++ PS-- PE Y+ PGP- t++(+++) 5? X? R !tv-- b++ DI+++ D-- G !e h(*) !r x--- === EGCB v3.1 ===
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On 10/31/05, mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it's pretty off-topic but i don't think that HE's bandwidth will suit their needs. they need proper frame relay, not bandwidth from a colo provider on steroids. Perhaps. But nonetheless, HE does offer some of the best bandwidth avaliable. I've looked into frame relay, and I haven't seen it go that fast compared to HE's GIG-E. Can you imagine *gigabit* ethernet - to the Internet!!! HE's a very professional company and I'm absolutely positive they'd allow multiple lines into the same building - for a price, of course. I know censored Comcast wouldn't do that unless you paid them well more than you're able to! Furthermore, $120,000.00/year is far too much for Internet, no matter how fast. I think that it's time to do some research as to better options, since that's far too expensive sounding. I just wish Verizon were in my area - I'd LOVE to get their new FIOS service! With them I could actually host something (yay!). But noo, Comcast maintains an unfair stranglehold monopoly on my area Whatever, I'm raving. And no, HE is more than a colo company on steriods (though probably not far from it!)
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On Mon, 31 Oct 2005, lordSauron wrote: On 10/31/05, mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it's pretty off-topic but i don't think that HE's bandwidth will suit their needs. they need proper frame relay, not bandwidth from a colo provider on steroids. Perhaps. But nonetheless, HE does offer some of the best bandwidth avaliable. I've looked into frame relay, and I haven't seen it go that fast compared to HE's GIG-E. Can you imagine *gigabit* ethernet - to the Internet!!! I have more than that. A snapshot of our university uplink at the ubuntu breezy release: http://stats.sunet.se/stat-q/plot-all/umea2.umea-srp,2005-10-13,raw,traffic-kbit There is nothing magic about multi-gigabit pipes. It just costs a fair chunk of money. HE's a very professional company and I'm absolutely positive they'd allow multiple lines into the same building - for a price, of course. I know censored Comcast wouldn't do that unless you paid them well more than you're able to! Furthermore, $120,000.00/year is far too much for Internet, no matter how fast. I think that it's time to do some research as to better options, since that's far too expensive sounding. I just wish Verizon were in my area - I'd LOVE to get their new FIOS service! With them I could actually host something (yay!). But noo, Comcast maintains an unfair stranglehold monopoly on my area You seem to have a very limited ISP experience. I would suggest that you take a wider look at reality before going off stating such things as certain. And no, you don't have a stronghold monopoly from comcast if you are willing to spend the cash to put down a fiber of your own to a real isp. This is what you do if you are a university. Whatever, I'm raving. And no, HE is more than a colo company on steriods (though probably not far from it!) SLAs cost more than bits too, btw. As does redundancy. And routers. I have 100Mbit/s at home, at a very resonable price. But the same capacity for a company would be much more expensive, due to less oversubscribing and higher availability demands. /Mattias Wadenstein PS. Could you please stop responding to every piece of spam. It just doubles the annoyance and noise mailflow. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I agree with Mattias - it sounds like your experience with ISPs and such is limited. If you'd like I can walk you through some of HE's history, off the list. They are a colo company on steroids, for all intents and purposes (look at their About Us page even) - the reason I know this? My friend and I ran a server out of HE back when you were still in middle or elementary school :) If I didn't know any better, I'd say you're trying to refer them business; nobody here is looking to be sold and you're trying to sell - hardcore. There must be some sort of motivation for this kind of plugging. - mike On 10/31/05, lordSauron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps. But nonetheless, HE does offer some of the best bandwidth avaliable. I've looked into frame relay, and I haven't seen it go that fast compared to HE's GIG-E. Can you imagine *gigabit* ethernet - to the Internet!!! HE's a very professional company and I'm absolutely positive they'd allow multiple lines into the same building - for a price, of course. I know censored Comcast wouldn't do that unless you paid them well more than you're able to!
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On 10/31/05, mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with Mattias - it sounds like your experience with ISPs and such is limited. Most likely is. Let's just revise my ignorance to a speciality in low-cost residential internet, okay? 'Cause I do know quite a bit about that (despite the fact that there's not that much to know) If you'd like I can walk you through some of HE's history, off the list. They are a colo company on steroids, for all intents and purposes (look at their About Us page even) - the reason I know this? My friend and I ran a server out of HE back when you were still in middle or elementary school :) so about 1995-1998 -ish? Nice. I still wish I had that kind of money as it is: I don't. If I didn't know any better, I'd say you're trying to refer them business; nobody here is looking to be sold and you're trying to sell First of all, I'm a hard-core tightwad, and the cheapest guy gets the contract. If no one is cheap enough, no one gets the contract. HE impressed me with prices that were low, but still just above my price range. sigh... Plus, they're the only company I know of that is almost entirely dedicated to enterprise-class connections. They don't offer any residential connections anymore (when I last contacte them, that is) - hardcore. There must be some sort of motivation for this kind of plugging. Their sales rep spoke English. You have any idea how rare it is to get someone who speaks English? With all the outsourcing going on, it's amazing they still sell things in the US!
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Well, since there's a need, I thought I'd just ask any who're interested to help me and alleviate some of my ignorance by helping with Wikipedia, most particularly at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_Carrier there isn't much of a article there. Keep in mind that it's for those who want to, Lord Sauron won't force you : )
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On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 07:53:22PM -0800, lordSauron wrote: Well, since there's a need, I thought I'd just ask any who're interested to help me and alleviate some of my ignorance by helping with Wikipedia, most particularly at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_Carrier there isn't much of a article there. Keep in mind that it's for those who want to, Lord Sauron won't force you : ) There's plenty of inaccurate information on that page and the linked SONET page. AFAIK, only OC-3, 12, 48, 192, 768 etc are used. The other numbers (256, 384, 1536) are made up, though they could exist in theory. The SONET page lists other junk like OC-9, 12, 24, 96. OC-n is not n * 51.8 MBit/sec; OC-n is actually (n/3) * 155.52, because OC-3 is the base rate. OC-1 is the odd one out. The SONET page fails to explain this. This is quite off-topic for this list. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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yeah, I suppose you're right. This discussion (of ISPs) is over as far as I'm concerned. The (patent pending) Lord Sauron's Veil of Silence is now in effect. Any further OT chatter on this thread directed at me might as well be read by blind eyes.
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On November 1, 2005 01:26 am, lordSauron wrote: The (patent pending) Lord Sauron's Veil of Silence is now in effect. Any chance we can get the same treatment for the spam on the list posts you seem to be fond of making as well. Thanks, Stephen -- Debian the choice of a GNU generation GPG Public Key: http://users.eastlink.ca/~stephencormier/publickey.asc pgptzmnzBw8x1.pgp Description: PGP signature
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On 10/29/05, Mark Nipper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 29 Oct 2005, lordSauron wrote: Yeah, you really should host a mirror - more mirrors means more places to distribute the bandwidth load. Working on it currently. I will notify all the appropriate people once I'm done with the initial rsync and am ready for the push part of the mirror. Cool. Tell me one thing though: is this OC-12 line into your house or workplace??? I've been trying for ages to get a ISP that'll let me host with even a bloody cable broadband connexion, however, since my area was one of the first to be wired with cable broadband, they're not going to re-wire it until hell freezes over (not the one in Alaska). OC-12 at home... Wouldn't that be nice! No, that's definitely at work (Texas AM University). There is no way I could afford the cost of that OC-12 personally. An OC-12 is roughly 622.08Mbps (either direction) while I only have a 5Mbps down/768Kbps up cable connection at home. I think we currently pay around $120,000USD for the OC-12 at work. A month or a year? That's an insane connection rate.. you've probably got a fibre LAN going in the building, right? Otherwise you'd be somewhat disabled by anything less than gigabit ethernet. They'll let you host that at your workplace though... Yes, Texas would be in my neck of the woods (I'm in California, so not *that* close, but closer than all the many German mirrors). Personally speaking, hosting anything of any size (this mirror for example) on a home connection is next to useless. I feel for you in looking for a decent provider in the boondocks. I have a friend in Northwest Washington who ended up going with DirecPC/Direcway (http://www.direcway.com/) because that was really his only option. He says the speed is decent (equivalent to slower DSL or cable modem service) but that the latency is pretty high. That's to be expected when the first and last leg of every route adds an additional 40,000 miles or so to the total distance! But I certainly wouldn't want to host any high traffic services on such a connection. It would be much better to lease a dedicated server elsewhere for this type of service, although prices are pretty high going this route too. Unmetered 20Mbps service starts around $239USD to give you an idea. If only I had the raw, untamed $$$ Sorry, ISPs are a major sore-spot of mine... yeah, you should certainly make an effort to host a mirror. What locale would your mirror be in? the US? I think that there's a lack of mirrors in the US personally... I would love to remedy that, but as I said before, The mirror will be in Texas. As long as you have a decent connection at home, your downlink will most likely be saturated from this end. Yeah, with my current mirrors, I get about 56K on average. Not that great -- === GCB v3.1 === GCS d-(+) s+:- a? C+() UL+++() P L++(+++) E- W+(+++) N++ w--- M++ PS-- PE Y+ PGP- t++(+++) 5? X? R !tv-- b++ DI+++ D-- G !e h(*) !r x--- === EGCB v3.1 ===
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yeah, it looks shorter to me...
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Yeah, you really should host a mirror - more mirrors means more places to distribute the bandwidth load. Tell me one thing though: is this OC-12 line into your house or workplace??? I've been trying for ages to get a ISP that'll let me host with even a bloody cable broadband connexion, however, since my area was one of the first to be wired with cable broadband, they're not going to re-wire it until hell freezes over (not the one in Alaska). Sorry, ISPs are a major sore-spot of mine... yeah, you should certainly make an effort to host a mirror. What locale would your mirror be in? the US? I think that there's a lack of mirrors in the US personally... I would love to remedy that, but as I said before, I'm in no situation to host anything, the least part of the problem being that my current ISP has me vow to *not* host anything. To host would be a breach of contract and then they could terminate my service for TV, phone, internet.. the whole works. If you ever are in a position to destroy a part of Comcast's property, please do so, since they've got a abhorrant stranglehold monopoly on my area... And as to fixing the mirrors list, it didn't change from where I browse. You sure it's work'n? We should certainly try to convince more of the other mirrors that host other bits of debian to add amd64 to their lists, since the i386 mirrors are many and fast, perhaps some of the more techno-literate among us should offer to help upgrade their mirrors, since the mirrors generally run themselves (it looks like that to me, anyways) and the main bits of pain are adding other parts of the repositories. We certainly should work harder to promote the amd64 architecture... I mean... we've been rather slothful, haven't we??? RedHat has had amd64 for a long while, and the amd64 architecture has been on the market almost a year in a half now (if not more... what was the first thing that goes?? I can't seem to remember... ; ) I can't claim much of the responsibity of not promoting amd64... but I think that there's a fair number of amd64 people running i386 (all those registers - unused! sniff...) so we certainly should be working either harder or smarter
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On 29 Oct 2005, lordSauron wrote: Yeah, you really should host a mirror - more mirrors means more places to distribute the bandwidth load. Working on it currently. I will notify all the appropriate people once I'm done with the initial rsync and am ready for the push part of the mirror. Tell me one thing though: is this OC-12 line into your house or workplace??? I've been trying for ages to get a ISP that'll let me host with even a bloody cable broadband connexion, however, since my area was one of the first to be wired with cable broadband, they're not going to re-wire it until hell freezes over (not the one in Alaska). OC-12 at home... Wouldn't that be nice! No, that's definitely at work (Texas AM University). There is no way I could afford the cost of that OC-12 personally. An OC-12 is roughly 622.08Mbps (either direction) while I only have a 5Mbps down/768Kbps up cable connection at home. I think we currently pay around $120,000USD for the OC-12 at work. Personally speaking, hosting anything of any size (this mirror for example) on a home connection is next to useless. I feel for you in looking for a decent provider in the boondocks. I have a friend in Northwest Washington who ended up going with DirecPC/Direcway (http://www.direcway.com/) because that was really his only option. He says the speed is decent (equivalent to slower DSL or cable modem service) but that the latency is pretty high. That's to be expected when the first and last leg of every route adds an additional 40,000 miles or so to the total distance! But I certainly wouldn't want to host any high traffic services on such a connection. It would be much better to lease a dedicated server elsewhere for this type of service, although prices are pretty high going this route too. Unmetered 20Mbps service starts around $239USD to give you an idea. Sorry, ISPs are a major sore-spot of mine... yeah, you should certainly make an effort to host a mirror. What locale would your mirror be in? the US? I think that there's a lack of mirrors in the US personally... I would love to remedy that, but as I said before, The mirror will be in Texas. As long as you have a decent connection at home, your downlink will most likely be saturated from this end. -- Mark Nippere-contacts: 832 Tanglewood Drive[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bryan, Texas 77802-4013 http://nipsy.bitgnome.net/ (979)575-3193 AIM/Yahoo: texasnipsy ICQ: 66971617 -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GG/IT d- s++:+ a- C++$ UBL$ P---+++ L+++$ !E--- W++(--) N+ o K++ w(---) O++ M V(--) PS+++(+) PE(--) Y+ PGP t+ 5 X R tv b+++@ DI+(++) D+ G e h r++ y+(**) --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ---begin random quote of the moment--- Sleep sweet within this quiet room, O thou, whoe'er thou art, And let no mournful yesterdays Disturb thy peaceful heart. Nor let tomorrow mar thy rest With dreams of coming ill. Thy maker is thy changeless friend, His love surrounds thee still. Forget thyself and all the world, Put out each garish light: The stars are shining overhead - Sleep sweet! Good night! Good night! -- Ellen M. Huntington Gates end random quote of the moment -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
