Re: installing a debian source ISO
On Tuesday 13 December 2005 8:02 am, Jo Shields wrote: > Debian isn't a "source based" distro like gentoo - if you really want to > do that, look at "Debian from Scratch" - though I'd not recommend > source-based distributions If you are referring to DFS - Debian from Scratch from John Goerzen, http://people.debian.org/~jgoerzen/dfs/html/ it is not source based either - it simply allows you to boot into a Debian system from CD and provides a collection of packages for installing your system manually from the command line. You still use the same deb's from the same mirrors or the CD. It works very well though and gives you absolute control over the install, and makes a great rescue disk - its not for anyone shy of the command line though. JCM -- John C. Martin - http://www.cs.utk.edu/~jomartin * Please be aware that non-encrypted e-mail is NOT a secured communication * vehicle, and that others may in certain circumstances be able to view its * contents. You should encrypt your e-mail. Disclaimers in your e-mail * signature about confidentiality and designated recipients are silly and * useless. That is what public key encryption is for. * Use my gpg key to ensure privacy - http://www.cs.utk.edu/~jomartin/John.gpg pgpJjW7ns2myl.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: installing a debian source ISO
On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 01:19:03PM +, Adam Stiles wrote: > Good on you for installing from source; but I will warn you in advance, it is > not as easy as installing "click and go" spyware-infested applications under > Windows! OTOH, there is something undefinable yet deeply satisfying about > knowing you built it all yourself from source code . just like the way > vegetables from a supermarket never taste as good as the ones you grew on > your own allotment, or other people's babies are never as pretty as yours. Personally I don't consider it good, I consider it silly. :) [snip] > I don't doubt that somebody will have created a boot CD with a working build > environment that can be used for bootstrapping Debian from sources. But you will get the same result building the source packages yourself. If you don't it is a serious bug. So really what would be the point (given I don't believe there is a point to any source based distribution). If you want a source distribution, try looking at the original debian releases (1.x releases). We don't want to go back to that kind of install again. :) Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: installing a debian source ISO
On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 09:23:28AM -0300, fernando tear wrote: > I get source debian sarge ISO and i am trying to > install it. > I search it by internet and i found how install a > binary distribution, not a source one. > > where can i find the steps to install a source > distro?? You don't install from source CDs, those you use if you want to rebuild a package with some changes to it. This is fortunately not gentoo. Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: installing a debian source ISO
On Tuesday 13 Dec 2005 12:23, fernando tear wrote:
> I get source debian sarge ISO and i am trying to
> install it.
> I search it by internet and i found how install a
> binary distribution, not a source one.
>
> where can i find the steps to install a source
> distro??
Good on you for installing from source; but I will warn you in advance, it is
not as easy as installing "click and go" spyware-infested applications under
Windows! OTOH, there is something undefinable yet deeply satisfying about
knowing you built it all yourself from source code . just like the way
vegetables from a supermarket never taste as good as the ones you grew on
your own allotment, or other people's babies are never as pretty as yours.
First of all, you have to set up a minimal build environment on the target
machine. {You can't do this with just the debian sources disc; get something
like an LFS or gentoo boot CD to use instead. You might even be able to use
Slax if you can find a version which includes GCC}. Partition your HDD, and
mount it somewhere like /target {don't forget to mount other filesystems
under it}. Unless you have stupid amounts of RAM, enable swap space with
swapon. Build a text editor, GCC, a kernel, all the Debian packaging tools,
the base system and lilo -- all with a PREFIX that will place them under the
target system. NB: If the GCC version on your bootdisc is older than the
source you have, build the new GCC first and use it to build everything else.
Chroot into the target and set up /etc/fstab and /etc/lilo.conf.
Run /sbin/lilo. *EXIT FROM THE CHROOT*, remove the boot CD and reboot into
the target system.
If that sounds too complicated, start installing a very minimal base system
from a Debian binary install CD and complete it with sources compiled locally
from your sources CD.
If that still sounds too complicated, cut your losses and download the binary
ISO. Is there a good reason you can't use netinstall? Even with only a
512Kb internet connection, it's still reasonably quick.
I don't doubt that somebody will have created a boot CD with a working build
environment that can be used for bootstrapping Debian from sources.
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AJS
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Re: installing a debian source ISO
fernando tear wrote: I get source debian sarge ISO and i am trying to install it. I search it by internet and i found how install a binary distribution, not a source one. where can i find the steps to install a source distro?? greetings fernando Debian isn't a "source based" distro like gentoo - if you really want to do that, look at "Debian from Scratch" - though I'd not recommend source-based distributions --Jo Shields -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
