Re: question about AMD64 HOWTO

2005-04-21 Thread Clive Menzies
On (21/04/05 10:02), Jonathan Kaye wrote:
 I'm slowly working up the courage to rip out my beautifully functioning
 Sarge 2.6.8 and install Amd64. I've been reading the AMD64 Howto over
 and over until I get the feeling I know what I'm doing. In the howto I see:
 ==
 Installing into a chroot
 Before you start
 
 Before you start bootstrapping the pure64 port into a chroot, make sure
 you are already running a 64bit kernel, or boot from a Debian-Installer
 CD in order to accomplish the following steps.
 
 If you already have an existing i386 Debian installation, you can
 install the amd64 kernels found in the archive.
 =
 Does the existing i386 Debian installation mean for example, my Sarge?
 the amd64 kernels found in the archive. Which archive? On the i386
 Debian installation? (surely not), on the CD? on the sources.list via
 aptitude?
Hi Jonathan

I did a fresh amd64 install on a separate partition and then chrooted
the 32bit system.  However, my reading of the Howto suggests that you
can install a 64 chroot from your 32bit system.  Which means you won't
lose your current install.

All of the 64bit stuff is on the alioth mirror and you will need thatin
your sources.list to set up the chroot, I believe.

I've not done this but others may have ;)

Regards

Clive

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Re: question about AMD64 HOWTO

2005-04-21 Thread David Hartveld
Clive Menzies wrote:
On (21/04/05 10:02), Jonathan Kaye wrote:
I'm slowly working up the courage to rip out my beautifully functioning
Sarge 2.6.8 and install Amd64. I've been reading the AMD64 Howto over
and over until I get the feeling I know what I'm doing. In the howto I see:
==
Installing into a chroot
Before you start
Before you start bootstrapping the pure64 port into a chroot, make sure
you are already running a 64bit kernel, or boot from a Debian-Installer
CD in order to accomplish the following steps.
If you already have an existing i386 Debian installation, you can
install the amd64 kernels found in the archive.
=
Does the existing i386 Debian installation mean for example, my Sarge?
the amd64 kernels found in the archive. Which archive? On the i386
Debian installation? (surely not), on the CD? on the sources.list via
aptitude?
Hi Jonathan
I did a fresh amd64 install on a separate partition and then chrooted
the 32bit system.  However, my reading of the Howto suggests that you
can install a 64 chroot from your 32bit system.  Which means you won't
lose your current install.
All of the 64bit stuff is on the alioth mirror and you will need thatin
your sources.list to set up the chroot, I believe.
I've not done this but others may have ;)
Regards
Clive
Hi all,
I've installed my current system by debootstrap'ing in a new 
partition/lvm logical volume.  You only need to run an x86_64 kernel (of 
course with 32-bit emulation enabled):

# apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-amd64-k8
Reboot and boot the new kernel, then run
# debootstrap --arch x86_64 {sarge,sid} $mountpoint $mirror
You'll need to copy some files over (like 
/etc/{fstab,hostname,hosts,...}, whichever you need.

Good luck,
David
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Re: question about AMD64 HOWTO

2005-04-21 Thread Jonathan Kaye
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En/La Clive Menzies ha escrit, a 21/04/05 12:00:
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| Hi Jonathan
|
| I did a fresh amd64 install on a separate partition and then chrooted
| the 32bit system.  However, my reading of the Howto suggests that you
| can install a 64 chroot from your 32bit system.  Which means you won't
| lose your current install.
|
| All of the 64bit stuff is on the alioth mirror and you will need thatin
| your sources.list to set up the chroot, I believe.
|
| I've not done this but others may have ;)
|
| Regards
|
| Clive
|
Hi Clive,
Thanks for that. Yes, the more I read, the more it seems you can install
amd64 onto an i386 system. The next question is what becomes of the
existing system? Specifically, I don't see why the /home directory
should be effected. I have a ~/bin directory but it's just stuff I wrote
and compiled myself and can do so easily on Amd64. The /usr directories
should be toast so it's just a question of getting the same packages (to
the extent they exist) on the new amd64 sources.list given in the Howto.
It would be nice if someone with experience installing amd64 over a i386
installation could chime in here. I've got a bunch of binaries in /opt
but I'm aware of the issues (they either run in amd64 or a through them
in chroot). Advice most welcome.
Cheers,
Jonathan
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Re: question about AMD64 HOWTO

2005-04-21 Thread Jonathan Kaye
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En/La David Hartveld ha escrit, a 21/04/05 12:36:
|
| Hi Jonathan
|
| I did a fresh amd64 install on a separate partition and then chrooted
| the 32bit system.  However, my reading of the Howto suggests that you
| can install a 64 chroot from your 32bit system.  Which means you won't
| lose your current install.
|
| All of the 64bit stuff is on the alioth mirror and you will need thatin
| your sources.list to set up the chroot, I believe.
|
| I've not done this but others may have ;)
|
| Regards
|
| Clive
|
|
| Hi all,
|
| I've installed my current system by debootstrap'ing in a new
| partition/lvm logical volume.  You only need to run an x86_64 kernel (of
| course with 32-bit emulation enabled):
|
| # apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-amd64-k8
|
| Reboot and boot the new kernel, then run
|
| # debootstrap --arch x86_64 {sarge,sid} $mountpoint $mirror
|
| You'll need to copy some files over (like
| /etc/{fstab,hostname,hosts,...}, whichever you need.
|
| Good luck,
|
| David
|
Hi David,
Thanks for that. I have a lot of studying to do. New concepts here:
debootstrap, partition/lvm logical volume etc. I'll be back with more
questions I'm sure.
Thanks again,
Jonathan
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