Re: samba: untrusted packages ???

2006-06-05 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
helices [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 * Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006:06:04:08:22:41+0200] scribed:
 helices [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  What do you think?
 
 I think you need to read more. Google a bit and read what errors and
 warnings you get from commands.

 Since I updated yesterday, and attempted the samba install, the
 repository went from this:

 # apt-cache policy samba
 samba:
   Installed: (none)
   Candidate: 3.0.22-1
   Version table:
  3.0.22-1 0
 500 ftp://mirrors.kernel.org unstable/main Packages
  3.0.14a-3 0
 100 ftp://debian.csail.mit.edu sarge/main Packages
 100 ftp://ftp.at.debian.org sarge/main Packages
 100 ftp://mirror.espri.arizona.edu sarge/main Packages

 To this:

 # apt-cache policy samba samba-common samba-doc
 samba:
   Installed: 3.0.22-1
   Candidate: 3.0.22-1
   Version table:
  *** 3.0.22-1 0
 700 ftp://mirrors.kernel.org etch/main Packages
 700 ftp://mirrors.kernel.org testing/main Packages

Those two are the same, testing is a link to etch. Having samba in
etch makes 0 difference for the trust/untrust issue though.

 500 ftp://mirrors.kernel.org unstable/main Packages
 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
  3.0.14a-3 0
 100 ftp://debian.csail.mit.edu sarge/main Packages
 100 ftp://ftp.at.debian.org sarge/main Packages
 100 ftp://mirror.espri.arizona.edu sarge/main Packages

Better don't mix sarge and etch. That can confuse apt.

 Now, of course, the installation went without a hitch; and samba is
 installed and functioning.


 However, back to my original problem: what caused the original error?

 untrusted versions of the following packages will be installed

 Yes, I googled; and I found several indications of issues with gpg key.
 So, is this really an apt-key issue, again?

 How can this be?  I have been installing from mirrors.kernel.org for a
 long time; and onto this new amd64 box for at least one week.

Maybe the previous apt-get update call just fetched a broken
Release.gpg file and thus failed to authenticate the mirror. Believe
it or not, that happens far too often. Now, after the next mirror
pulse has corrected the problem, you got a working one and the problem
disapeared.

MfG
Goswin


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Re: samba: untrusted packages ???

2006-06-05 Thread helices
* Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006:06:05:09:38:40+0200] scribed:
snip /

 Better don't mix sarge and etch. That can confuse apt.
snip /

Where can I read up on the ramifications of this?

On this very list, I was advised to use sarge to get kde onto my system.
My understanding of apt, preferences and pinning -- although a meager
understanding -- is that mixing issues can be mitigated.

What am I missing?


 Maybe the previous apt-get update call just fetched a broken
 Release.gpg file and thus failed to authenticate the mirror. Believe
 it or not, that happens far too often. Now, after the next mirror
 pulse has corrected the problem, you got a working one and the problem
 disapeared.

OK.  Is it fair to suppose that I am not a lazy moron; and that this is
a fair explanation; rather than that I do not fully understand the
subject error message?

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Re: samba: untrusted packages ???

2006-06-05 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
helices [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 * Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006:06:05:09:38:40+0200] scribed:
 snip /

 Better don't mix sarge and etch. That can confuse apt.
 snip /

 Where can I read up on the ramifications of this?

 On this very list, I was advised to use sarge to get kde onto my system.
 My understanding of apt, preferences and pinning -- although a meager
 understanding -- is that mixing issues can be mitigated.

 What am I missing?

That sarge and etch/sid have the same package/version but different
md5sum because all packages got rebuild. You can end up with apt-get
upgrading a package again and again every time you upgrade.

 Maybe the previous apt-get update call just fetched a broken
 Release.gpg file and thus failed to authenticate the mirror. Believe
 it or not, that happens far too often. Now, after the next mirror
 pulse has corrected the problem, you got a working one and the problem
 disapeared.

 OK.  Is it fair to suppose that I am not a lazy moron; and that this is
 a fair explanation; rather than that I do not fully understand the
 subject error message?

You just didn't read the previous error message when you run apt-get update.

MfG
Goswin


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Re: samba: untrusted packages ???

2006-06-04 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
helices [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 What do you think?

I think you need to read more. Google a bit and read what errors and
warnings you get from commands.

MfG
Goswin


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Re: samba: untrusted packages ???

2006-06-04 Thread helices
* Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006:06:04:08:22:41+0200] scribed:
 helices [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  What do you think?
 
 I think you need to read more. Google a bit and read what errors and
 warnings you get from commands.

Since I updated yesterday, and attempted the samba install, the
repository went from this:

# apt-cache policy samba
samba:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 3.0.22-1
  Version table:
 3.0.22-1 0
500 ftp://mirrors.kernel.org unstable/main Packages
 3.0.14a-3 0
100 ftp://debian.csail.mit.edu sarge/main Packages
100 ftp://ftp.at.debian.org sarge/main Packages
100 ftp://mirror.espri.arizona.edu sarge/main Packages

To this:

# apt-cache policy samba samba-common samba-doc
samba:
  Installed: 3.0.22-1
  Candidate: 3.0.22-1
  Version table:
 *** 3.0.22-1 0
700 ftp://mirrors.kernel.org etch/main Packages
700 ftp://mirrors.kernel.org testing/main Packages
500 ftp://mirrors.kernel.org unstable/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 3.0.14a-3 0
100 ftp://debian.csail.mit.edu sarge/main Packages
100 ftp://ftp.at.debian.org sarge/main Packages
100 ftp://mirror.espri.arizona.edu sarge/main Packages

Now, of course, the installation went without a hitch; and samba is
installed and functioning.


However, back to my original problem: what caused the original error?

untrusted versions of the following packages will be installed

Yes, I googled; and I found several indications of issues with gpg key.
So, is this really an apt-key issue, again?

How can this be?  I have been installing from mirrors.kernel.org for a
long time; and onto this new amd64 box for at least one week.

The only difference that I see is:

unstable/main Packages

-- vs --

etch/main Packages

So, I have to ask, are there _different_ keys required for etch and
unstable?

What do you think?  Am I on the right track?

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helices
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-
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we think we know.  The more I know, the more I know I don't know . . .
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