Re: Youtube on non X86 platforms.

2007-04-19 Thread Giacomo Mulas

On Thu, 19 Apr 2007, Ananda Samaddar wrote:


You might want to wait for the next release of Gnash which is coming
along nicely and will support flash videos from popular sites like
Youtube, Myspace etc.  It should be out in the next few months and is
entirely free software as well.


Well, in those next few months he might still want to use something which
works, while waiting for gnash, and then switch to gnash as soon as it works
well enough... A pragmatic approach to OSS is usually sensible: as far as
you can, use free (as in free speech) software, if/when you can't, do what
you can to promote the development of suitable free software but, in the
meanwhile, use what is available to do the job. Nspluginwrapper and
ndiswrapper are good surrogates, while waiting for the real thing.

Bye
Giacomo

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Re: Youtube on non X86 platforms.

2007-04-19 Thread Robert Isaac

There is libswfdec, also free software.  If all you want or need flash
for is to view YouTube or Google Videos libswfdec and Gnash are a fine
replacement for flash.  It's when you come to the sites that think
complete flash design with the latest codec is the best possible way
to wow the customer that you need flash 9.

I'd rather avoid those sites, myself.


On 4/19/07, Giacomo Mulas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thu, 19 Apr 2007, Ananda Samaddar wrote:

 You might want to wait for the next release of Gnash which is coming
 along nicely and will support flash videos from popular sites like
 Youtube, Myspace etc.  It should be out in the next few months and is
 entirely free software as well.

Well, in those next few months he might still want to use something which
works, while waiting for gnash, and then switch to gnash as soon as it works
well enough... A pragmatic approach to OSS is usually sensible: as far as
you can, use free (as in free speech) software, if/when you can't, do what
you can to promote the development of suitable free software but, in the
meanwhile, use what is available to do the job. Nspluginwrapper and
ndiswrapper are good surrogates, while waiting for the real thing.

Bye
Giacomo

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Re: Youtube on non X86 platforms.

2007-04-19 Thread Giacomo Mulas

On Thu, 19 Apr 2007, Robert Isaac wrote:


There is libswfdec, also free software.  If all you want or need flash
for is to view YouTube or Google Videos libswfdec and Gnash are a fine
replacement for flash.  It's when you come to the sites that think
complete flash design with the latest codec is the best possible way
to wow the customer that you need flash 9.

I'd rather avoid those sites, myself.


Which means that libswfdec and Gnash are good enough for you already. You
see, you fit one of the categories of my pragmatic approach :)
Somebody may _need_ to access some of those sites which do not work with
free flash plugins (yet) though, and while waiting for them to work they
have to use what works. Some notable examples I could cite are the websites
of some airline companies whose flights I cannot avoid to take every now and
then... Either I waste a lot of money going through their phone service or I
use a non-completely-free plugin to buy the tickets via their web site. It's
just a practical matter. I still would definitely _prefer_ to use a free
alternative, and will switch to it as soon as available. In the meanwhile, I
use what works for me.

Bye
Giacomo

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Re: Youtube on non X86 platforms.

2007-04-18 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 04:34:46PM +0100, Ananda Samaddar wrote:

 I know cross-posting is frowned upon but I just discovered a useful
 item that you may like to try.

http://blog.mikeasoft.com/2006/11/24/playing-youtube-videos-without-flash/

Also worth of notice is package youtube-dl.

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Re: Youtube on non X86 platforms.

2007-04-18 Thread Rob Andrews
On 10-Apr-2007 16:34.46 (BST), Ananda Samaddar wrote:
  
  I know cross-posting is frowned upon but I just discovered a useful item 
  that you may like to try.
  
  http://blog.mikeasoft.com/2006/11/24/playing-youtube-videos-without-flash/
  
  The above link is a Greasemonkey script that plays Youtube movies through 
  MPlayer.  You'll need MPlayer and the MPlayer Mozilla plugin as well as 
  Greasemonkey installed to use the script.  I'm using the unofficial 
  Marilliat MPlayer on Etch AMD64 and it works fine for me!

There's nspluginwrapper as well. I'm trying to work out if and how I can get
it working on non-amd64 machines (I have a ppc machine as well as amd64,
so I'd like to get it working on that as well).

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Re: Youtube on non X86 platforms.

2007-04-18 Thread A J Stiles
On Wednesday 18 April 2007 12:27, Rob Andrews wrote:
 There's nspluginwrapper as well. I'm trying to work out if and how I can
 get it working on non-amd64 machines (I have a ppc machine as well as
 amd64, so I'd like to get it working on that as well).

You'll have a job, because nspluginwrapper is just a wrapper for x86 binaries 
which have been linked against 32-bit libraries.  A PPC machine can't run x86 
or amd64 binaries at all, never mind what libraries they're linked against -- 
and if you had the Source Code for the plugins in the first place, then you 
could just compile them for the target architecture with no need for any 
fancy wrapper code.

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Re: Youtube on non X86 platforms.

2007-04-18 Thread Rob Andrews
On 18-Apr-2007 11:44.45 (BST), A J Stiles wrote:
   There's nspluginwrapper as well. I'm trying to work out if and how I can
   get it working on non-amd64 machines (I have a ppc machine as well as
   amd64, so I'd like to get it working on that as well).
  You'll have a job, because nspluginwrapper is just a wrapper for x86 
  binaries 
  which have been linked against 32-bit libraries.  A PPC machine can't run 
  x86 
  or amd64 binaries at all, never mind what libraries they're linked against 
  -- 
  and if you had the Source Code for the plugins in the first place, then you 
  could just compile them for the target architecture with no need for any 
  fancy wrapper code.

Yes, I am quite aware that powerpc machines cannot run x86/amd64 code :)

However, nspluginwrapper uses qemu to emulate the plugin environment on
architectures where the binary cannot be natively executed. This is noted in
the features section on the homepage:

* Run Linux/i386 plugins through QEMU on Linux/ppc platforms

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Re: Youtube on non X86 platforms.

2007-04-18 Thread Ananda Samaddar
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:51:11 +0100
Rob Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 18-Apr-2007 11:44.45 (BST), A J Stiles wrote:
There's nspluginwrapper as well. I'm trying to work out if and how I can
get it working on non-amd64 machines (I have a ppc machine as well as
amd64, so I'd like to get it working on that as well).
   You'll have a job, because nspluginwrapper is just a wrapper for x86 
 binaries 
   which have been linked against 32-bit libraries.  A PPC machine can't run 
 x86 
   or amd64 binaries at all, never mind what libraries they're linked against 
 -- 
   and if you had the Source Code for the plugins in the first place, then 
 you 
   could just compile them for the target architecture with no need for any 
   fancy wrapper code.
 
 Yes, I am quite aware that powerpc machines cannot run x86/amd64 code :)
 
 However, nspluginwrapper uses qemu to emulate the plugin environment on
 architectures where the binary cannot be natively executed. This is noted in
 the features section on the homepage:
 
 * Run Linux/i386 plugins through QEMU on Linux/ppc platforms
 
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You might want to wait for the next release of Gnash which is coming
along nicely and will support flash videos from popular sites like
Youtube, Myspace etc.  It should be out in the next few months and is
entirely free software as well.

Ananda


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Youtube on non X86 platforms.

2007-04-10 Thread Ananda Samaddar
Hello all,

I know cross-posting is frowned upon but I just discovered a useful item that 
you may like to try.

http://blog.mikeasoft.com/2006/11/24/playing-youtube-videos-without-flash/

The above link is a Greasemonkey script that plays Youtube movies through 
MPlayer.  You'll need MPlayer and the MPlayer Mozilla plugin as well as 
Greasemonkey installed to use the script.  I'm using the unofficial Marilliat 
MPlayer on Etch AMD64 and it works fine for me!

regards,

Ananda Samaddar


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Re: Youtube on non X86 platforms.

2007-04-10 Thread Jimmy

Ananda Samaddar wrote:

Hello all,

I know cross-posting is frowned upon but I just discovered a useful item that 
you may like to try.

http://blog.mikeasoft.com/2006/11/24/playing-youtube-videos-without-flash/

The above link is a Greasemonkey script that plays Youtube movies through 
MPlayer.  You'll need MPlayer and the MPlayer Mozilla plugin as well as 
Greasemonkey installed to use the script.  I'm using the unofficial Marilliat 
MPlayer on Etch AMD64 and it works fine for me!

regards,

Ananda Samaddar
  

Thank you!!!

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