Re: network card on AMD64 installation
On Mon, Sep 26, 2005 at 09:17:01PM -0400, Julian Bolivar wrote: > Really i think that the system had a problem with some network cards or > some Motherboards, because I try to install debian AMD64 on my new MSI > K8N Neo4 that use nvidia nforce 4 chipset and Debian AMD64 didn't detect > any network card during the install process and after that. When the > system was installed I try to compile and install the nforce kernel > module downloaded from nvidia web page, but it don't install because > "the kernel version that was compiled is different from the version that > is loaded" and really I don't know why this if i used the kernel source > code and headers that came with the DVD iso. > > After that i think "ok, let me disable the on board network card and use > other in a PCI slot" and fist I put a D'Link DFE-530TX that use the old > VIA chip set and Debian don't see this new card, then I change the > D'link by a 3COM 3C905B-TX and ok the system it recognizes that, but my > surprise is that Debian don't see the net, It can configure the card by > DHCP, I try to configure manually, but it don't see any other machine in > the network. > > I know that all the hardware is fine because I try using other > distribution and all work fine, because it I think that the problem is > in debian distribution on some hardware configuration. You should try doing 'modprobe forcedeth' from console 2 during install since for some reason 2.6.8 seems to fail to detect the nforce ethernet on many boards (later kernels see it just fine), but even when lspci doesn't show it, the driver still works just fine for some odd reason. Worth a try. There is no need to mess with the binary from nvidia at all. Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: network card on AMD64 installation
Really i think that the system had a problem with some network cards or some Motherboards, because I try to install debian AMD64 on my new MSI K8N Neo4 that use nvidia nforce 4 chipset and Debian AMD64 didn't detect I'm running 32 bit Sarge on the same hardware (K8N Neo4) with kernel 2.6.13.1 and everything is supported (including on-board netcard via forcedeth code. If you are interested, I can send you my .config file. I've got vanilla 2.6.13.1 from kernel.org and run make menuconfig make-kpkg kernel-image dpkg -i resultkernelpackage.deb I works like a charm. Vit -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: network card on AMD64 installation
Hi, Really i think that the system had a problem with some network cards or some Motherboards, because I try to install debian AMD64 on my new MSI K8N Neo4 that use nvidia nforce 4 chipset and Debian AMD64 didn't detect any network card during the install process and after that. When the system was installed I try to compile and install the nforce kernel module downloaded from nvidia web page, but it don't install because "the kernel version that was compiled is different from the version that is loaded" and really I don't know why this if i used the kernel source code and headers that came with the DVD iso. After that i think "ok, let me disable the on board network card and use other in a PCI slot" and fist I put a D'Link DFE-530TX that use the old VIA chip set and Debian don't see this new card, then I change the D'link by a 3COM 3C905B-TX and ok the system it recognizes that, but my surprise is that Debian don't see the net, It can configure the card by DHCP, I try to configure manually, but it don't see any other machine in the network. I know that all the hardware is fine because I try using other distribution and all work fine, because it I think that the problem is in debian distribution on some hardware configuration. Thanks and Regards Julian Bolivar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Code of Conduct was Re: network card on AMD64 installation
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 06:31:07PM -0400, jmdeleu wrote: > It's becoming complicated to write procmail recipes. It shouldn't be - just match on the X-Mailing-List or List-Id headers. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Code of Conduct was Re: network card on AMD64 installation
I'm suscribed to many debian-related lists, this seems to be the only one where people reply to the list in any way they want to. When people answer the poster directly instead of the list, could they at least cc the list name without adding any extra garbage anywhere in that cc header. It's becoming complicated to write procmail recipes. To those (like me) using mutt: try hitting "L" as "in reply to list". This may not be the official code of conduct for this list but perhaps it should be. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Code of Conduct was Re: network card on AMD64 installation
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lennart Sorensen) writes: > Mail-Followup-To is ignored by many mail clients too, given it doesn't > appear to actually be a standard. You are right. It is not a standard. It is just a proposal. But, I think it is usefull. And I think people shoul use it. That way it might become a standard even if it is not formalized. A number of MUAs have implemented it already and in many cases it just needs to be activated. > > X-Mailing-List works in mutt (when hitting reply to list). It does > absolutely nothing with the Followup header. Is that a standard? MFT would have the advantage that the sender of a message can specify where followups should go. Matthias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Code of Conduct was Re: network card on AMD64 installation
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 10:57:06PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > Which Mutt are you using? The one I've used for years does certainly use > the Mail-Followup-To header when I list List reply. Hmm, I thought it used the mailing list header. Certainly when hitting reply it just uses the from field. I use the mutt in sarge. Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Code of Conduct was Re: network card on AMD64 installation
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 08:40:00AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 05:43:50PM -0400, Matthias Julius wrote: > > You should set the Mail-Followup-To header appropriately. Otherwise I > > guess many mailreaders default to CC the author. > > Mail-Followup-To is ignored by many mail clients too, given it doesn't > appear to actually be a standard. > > X-Mailing-List works in mutt (when hitting reply to list). It does > absolutely nothing with the Followup header. Which Mutt are you using? The one I've used for years does certainly use the Mail-Followup-To header when I list List reply. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Code of Conduct was Re: network card on AMD64 installation
On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 05:43:50PM -0400, Matthias Julius wrote: > You should set the Mail-Followup-To header appropriately. Otherwise I > guess many mailreaders default to CC the author. Mail-Followup-To is ignored by many mail clients too, given it doesn't appear to actually be a standard. X-Mailing-List works in mutt (when hitting reply to list). It does absolutely nothing with the Followup header. Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Code of Conduct was Re: network card on AMD64 installation
Stephen Cormier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Aside from your opinion of mail reader design decisions it is against > the Debian mailing list code of conduct to CC people unless > specifically asked to do so. You should set the Mail-Followup-To header appropriately. Otherwise I guess many mailreaders default to CC the author. Matthias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Code of Conduct was Re: network card on AMD64 installation
On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 02:04:08PM -0300, Stephen Cormier wrote: > Aside from your opinion of mail reader design decisions it is against > the Debian mailing list code of conduct to CC people unless > specifically asked to do so. I will try to remember to hit the correct key. If only all mailing lists were configured properly so reply to list always worked. The debian ones are, not all others are though. Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Code of Conduct was Re: network card on AMD64 installation
On September 1, 2005 12:59 pm, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 12:00:25PM -0300, Stephen Cormier wrote: > > Thanks for the information I had experienced the same problem with > > the installer and thought that the Giga lan was the same with the > > newer via chipset they have on the board. BTW please do not CC me I > > am subscribed and read the list. > > Many people are not, so it is quite automatic to just hit reply all. > > mutt flags duplicates nicely so I can easily remove them. I would > think most decent mail readers did. > > Len Sorensen Aside from your opinion of mail reader design decisions it is against the Debian mailing list code of conduct to CC people unless specifically asked to do so. Stephen -- Debian the choice of a GNU generation GPG Public Key: http://users.eastlink.ca/~stephencormier/publickey.asc pgpHhGFnWvaSL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: network card on AMD64 installation
On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 12:00:25PM -0300, Stephen Cormier wrote: > Thanks for the information I had experienced the same problem with the > installer and thought that the Giga lan was the same with the newer via > chipset they have on the board. BTW please do not CC me I am subscribed > and read the list. Many people are not, so it is quite automatic to just hit reply all. mutt flags duplicates nicely so I can easily remove them. I would think most decent mail readers did. Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: network card on AMD64 installation
On September 1, 2005 11:21 am, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 02:35:18AM -0300, Stephen Cormier wrote: > > I have a Abit KV8 Pro with I think the same netcard builtin and it > > would not recognize it either. Try using the CTRL + ALT +F2 keys at > > the same time to switch to the second virtual terminal then use > > modprobe via-velocity to load the module for the card then try to > > set your IP address. Of course you would use CTRL + ALT +F1 keys at > > the same time to switch back to the installer terminal. > > According to abit and google, it has an IC Plus 1000a chip. Not a > via chip as far as I can tell. Driver name is ipg.ko but not in any > current kernel. > > Len Sorensen Hi Len, Thanks for the information I had experienced the same problem with the installer and thought that the Giga lan was the same with the newer via chipset they have on the board. BTW please do not CC me I am subscribed and read the list. Thanks, Stephen -- Debian the choice of a GNU generation GPG Public Key: http://users.eastlink.ca/~stephencormier/publickey.asc pgpNsDHTivSSU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: network card on AMD64 installation
On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 02:35:18AM -0300, Stephen Cormier wrote: > I have a Abit KV8 Pro with I think the same netcard builtin and it would > not recognize it either. Try using the CTRL + ALT +F2 keys at the same > time to switch to the second virtual terminal then use modprobe > via-velocity to load the module for the card then try to set your IP > address. Of course you would use CTRL + ALT +F1 keys at the same time > to switch back to the installer terminal. According to abit and google, it has an IC Plus 1000a chip. Not a via chip as far as I can tell. Driver name is ipg.ko but not in any current kernel. Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: network card on AMD64 installation
On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 12:21:36AM -0400, Xiaozheng Ma wrote: > I am installing AMD64 to my new computer, which has Abit ax8 motherboard. > The installer could not find network device (or configed my network) with > auto-detect DHCP option. After I manually set the network ip etc, It still > couldn't work. The ax8 has an integrated network card (i believe it is > Gigabit LAN) > http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/products.php?categories=1&model=215 > > By default, the installer also has problem recognizing my PCI-Express video > card. but this is a less conncern to me. > > Has anyone installed AMD64 successfully on the ax8? Please share your > experience. Thank you very much. Well a google search indicates the network chip on that board has rather poor support at the moment in linux. The maker http://www.icplus.com.tw does have a linux driver, but you have to download and compiler it yourself, so it's useless during the install. No current kernel has a driver for it, so no installer (probably for any distribution) will recognize it. Simplest solution is to get some cheap network card to plug in while installing, until you get the onboard one working. Currently the board seems to be on the list of 'not recomended for linux at this time' boards. Not that many boards seem to be in that state anymore (although ATI chipset boards seem to go there too to a large extent). Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: network card on AMD64 installation
On September 1, 2005 01:21 am, Xiaozheng Ma wrote: > Dear All, > > I am installing AMD64 to my new computer, which has Abit ax8 > motherboard. The installer could not find network device (or configed > my network) with auto-detect DHCP option. After I manually set the > network ip etc, It still couldn't work. The ax8 has an integrated > network card (i believe it is Gigabit LAN) > http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/products.php?categories=1&model=2 >15 > > By default, the installer also has problem recognizing my PCI-Express > video card. but this is a less conncern to me. > > Has anyone installed AMD64 successfully on the ax8? Please share your > experience. Thank you very much. > > Xiaozheng Oh I should mention as well if you want to monitor the temperature sensors on the motherboard with the uguru if you get it installed you should go to this (1) thread on the abit forum and get the oguru tarball and compile it with gcc-3.4 and you will be able to check them. (1) http://forum.abit-usa.com/showthread.php?s=a04868686bbf6f5a0e2bd54650f6ba99&t=80051&highlight=KV8+PRO Stephen -- Debian the choice of a GNU generation GPG Public Key: http://users.eastlink.ca/~stephencormier/publickey.asc pgpH6uw7fjgwF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: network card on AMD64 installation
On September 1, 2005 01:21 am, Xiaozheng Ma wrote: > Dear All, > > I am installing AMD64 to my new computer, which has Abit ax8 > motherboard. The installer could not find network device (or configed > my network) with auto-detect DHCP option. After I manually set the > network ip etc, It still couldn't work. The ax8 has an integrated > network card (i believe it is Gigabit LAN) > http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/products.php?categories=1&model=2 >15 > > By default, the installer also has problem recognizing my PCI-Express > video card. but this is a less conncern to me. > > Has anyone installed AMD64 successfully on the ax8? Please share your > experience. Thank you very much. > > Xiaozheng Hi Xiaozheng, I have a Abit KV8 Pro with I think the same netcard builtin and it would not recognize it either. Try using the CTRL + ALT +F2 keys at the same time to switch to the second virtual terminal then use modprobe via-velocity to load the module for the card then try to set your IP address. Of course you would use CTRL + ALT +F1 keys at the same time to switch back to the installer terminal. Stephen -- Debian the choice of a GNU generation GPG Public Key: http://users.eastlink.ca/~stephencormier/publickey.asc pgpcrBraUa8Yj.pgp Description: PGP signature
network card on AMD64 installation
Dear All, I am installing AMD64 to my new computer, which has Abit ax8 motherboard. The installer could not find network device (or configed my network) with auto-detect DHCP option. After I manually set the network ip etc, It still couldn't work. The ax8 has an integrated network card (i believe it is Gigabit LAN) http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/products.php?categories=1&model=215 By default, the installer also has problem recognizing my PCI-Express video card. but this is a less conncern to me. Has anyone installed AMD64 successfully on the ax8? Please share your experience. Thank you very much. Xiaozheng
