Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 07:32:25PM -0500, Seb wrote: On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 10:16:13 +1000, Alex Samad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] why not use m-a m-a build nvidia and then install the package :) I wish I could do that, but as you might see from the earlier part of this thread, the latest sid driver sources and OS kernels do not build a working driver for my GeForce 6100 card. This has been the case since the 2.6.24 kernel, so that's what I'm stuck with ever since... so I need to get those old sources from the snapshots in that url. sorry, came in late Thanks, -- Seb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- In my judgment, when the United States says there will be serious consequences, and if there isn't serious consequences, it creates adverse consequences. - George W. Bush 02/08/2004 Meet the Press signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:15:32 -0500, Jaime Ochoa Malagón [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, just add to your /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://snapshot.debian.net/archive pool nvidia-graphics-drivers deb-src http://snapshot.debian.net/archive pool nvidia-graphics-drivers Have these sources changed? apt-get update no longer finds this url. Thanks for any feedback. Cheers, -- Seb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
Am 07.09.2008 um 20:26 schrieb Seb: On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:15:32 -0500, Jaime Ochoa Malagón [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, just add to your /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://snapshot.debian.net/archive pool nvidia-graphics-drivers deb-src http://snapshot.debian.net/archive pool nvidia-graphics- drivers Have these sources changed? apt-get update no longer finds this url. Thanks for any feedback. these sources seem to be totally wrong... why would you like to use a snapshot without a date? take a look here: http://snapshot.debian.net/ bye, Michael. PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 09:00:36PM +0200, Michael Mohn wrote: Am 07.09.2008 um 20:26 schrieb Seb: On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:15:32 -0500, Jaime Ochoa Malagón [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, just add to your /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://snapshot.debian.net/archive pool nvidia-graphics-drivers deb-src http://snapshot.debian.net/archive pool nvidia-graphics- drivers Have these sources changed? apt-get update no longer finds this url. Thanks for any feedback. why not use m-a m-a build nvidia and then install the package :) these sources seem to be totally wrong... why would you like to use a snapshot without a date? take a look here: http://snapshot.debian.net/ bye, Michael. -- The senator has got to understand if he's going to have -- he can't have it both ways. He can't take the high horse and then claim the low road. - George W. Bush 02/17/2000 Florence, SC on Sen. John McCain, speaking to reporters signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 10:16:13 +1000, Alex Samad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] why not use m-a m-a build nvidia and then install the package :) I wish I could do that, but as you might see from the earlier part of this thread, the latest sid driver sources and OS kernels do not build a working driver for my GeForce 6100 card. This has been the case since the 2.6.24 kernel, so that's what I'm stuck with ever since... so I need to get those old sources from the snapshots in that url. Thanks, -- Seb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 06:26:19PM -0500, Mark Allums wrote: A brief description of the Debian way is in the Debian documentation, if you have that installed. It requires quite a few packages, and it depends on the Debian patched kernel. If you use the vanilla kernel, you may need to use the standard way. I have used it on plain kernels many times. I have never seen any indication it requries any debian patches. make-kpkg doesn't seem to care. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image, now [OT]
Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 06:26:19PM -0500, Mark Allums wrote: A brief description of the Debian way is in the Debian documentation, if you have that installed. It requires quite a few packages, and it depends on the Debian patched kernel. If you use the vanilla kernel, you may need to use the standard way. I have used it on plain kernels many times. I have never seen any indication it requries any debian patches. make-kpkg doesn't seem to care. That's good to know. Although, I think that there is an issue. I get a series of 'modules.dep' file not found-type error messages early on boot. I have been wondering if it is something I have done wrong, or there is something wrong with the build process. The system still seems to run perfectly well after the init process completes. I only get that message when I build a custom kernel. A kernel image from sid installed through apt boots fine. This may not be an AMD64 only issue, thus OT. Am I missing something? Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:36:35PM -0500, Mark Allums wrote: Thanks for that, I am forewarned. However, my point was really about the newest driver working well with the newest kernels. I am not a particular fan of nvidia, per se. (I would like to see them release some of their software as free and/or open sourece.) 3rd party installers are not as a category the problem; the problem is individual software developers not taking the time to do things right. This is a definite issue that Linux is going to have as long as there are different distributions. It is hard for someone to package up something for Redhat, SuSE, Slackware, Debian, and so on. Debian is a particular challenge for them, apparently. Which is odd given it has by far the nicest tools for making packages. Making rpm's is hard and has to be made for each distribution. A debian package will often work on many different debian based distributions. I do not run my particular setup as a production system. It won't cost me much time or any productivity to have to fix it when things finally break. So, I don't have to wait for a Debian maintainer to get around to packaging up the solution to my current problem. Your advice should definitely be heeded by someone who is more dependent on their machine being up most of the time. I will keep this in mind when giving out info or advice from here on. A better solution is to make a new debian package based on the new upstream driver and install that. That way you are working with the package system rather than against it, and it is very easy to do. Isn't the current 173 driver version new enough for you? Did nvidia go and release 177 as stable already? -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 08:53:10PM -0400, C. Ahlstrom wrote: I update nvidia direct from nvidia.com, and have had no issues. So far. You will at some point. Everyone does eventually. Same for the kernel -- I always build it from source myself (that way I can change the configuration). The kernel has its own location for files so it isn't usually a big deal, although using make-kpkg (from kernel-package) makes it trivial to have your own kernel installed using the package system. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:53:10 -0400, C. Ahlstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I update nvidia direct from nvidia.com, and have had no issues. Same for the kernel -- I always build it from source myself (that way I can change the configuration). Here's a thread where I learnt the hard way what Lennart is referring to: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.ports.amd64/20620 so you may not notice the mess until the changes interfere with Debian proper packages. -- Seb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
Seb 11:33 Thu 17 Jul On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:53:10 -0400, C. Ahlstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I update nvidia direct from nvidia.com, and have had no issues. Same for the kernel -- I always build it from source myself (that way I can change the configuration). Here's a thread where I learnt the hard way what Lennart is referring to: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.ports.amd64/20620 so you may not notice the mess until the changes interfere with Debian proper packages. I update both my main systems (32-bit DELL laptop and 64-bit no-name desktop) nearly every day, and have had no issues. (I don't permit the Nvidia installer to touch xorg.conf). Therefore, I view this note at that link: The nvidia-installer indiscriminately overwrites key files in /usr, leading to major system death in the event of upgraded X-related packages. as innocent F.U.D. until proven otherwise. Is there a list of the files the nvidia-installer overwrites? A spot check shows only /usr/lib/libGL.so and friends. -- I am ready to meet my Maker. Whether my Maker is prepared for the great ordeal of meeting me is another matter. -- Winston Churchill -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
Lennart Sorensen 12:46 Thu 17 Jul On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 08:53:10PM -0400, C. Ahlstrom wrote: I update nvidia direct from nvidia.com, and have had no issues. So far. You will at some point. Everyone does eventually. Well, it's been about two years so far. I'll be sure to post an account of this disaster when it happens grin. Same for the kernel -- I always build it from source myself (that way I can change the configuration). The kernel has its own location for files so it isn't usually a big deal, although using make-kpkg (from kernel-package) makes it trivial to have your own kernel installed using the package system. make menuconfig make make modules_install mkinitramfs copy files to /boot modify grub/menu.lst THe only part that bugs me is the menuconfig. I'd really like to make a kernel that builds /only/ the parts my laptop needs, but I have no idea what comprises that set! -- Deek Yes, America is a country based on how pissed-off a group of taxed people can get. Deek We exist as a country because we're cheap. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:36:35PM -0500, Mark Allums wrote: It is hard for someone to package up something for Redhat, SuSE, Slackware, Debian, and so on. Debian is a particular challenge for them, apparently. Which is odd given it has by far the nicest tools for making packages. Making rpm's is hard and has to be made for each distribution. A debian package will often work on many different debian based distributions. True enough. Although that is not universally true. Ubuntu people should not use Debian packages, and vice versa. Isn't the current 173 driver version new enough for you? Did nvidia go and release 177 as stable already? I am using a(n nvidia) patched 173. Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 02:58:15PM -0500, Mark Allums wrote: True enough. Although that is not universally true. Ubuntu people should not use Debian packages, and vice versa. Almost always works fine, and the dependancies will let you know when it won't pretty much. I am using a(n nvidia) patched 173. Well the 173 package in debian is patched and works wtih the kernels in debian just fine. It only needed a bit of work to put up with XEN. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
C. Ahlstrom wrote: The kernel has its own location for files so it isn't usually a big deal, although using make-kpkg (from kernel-package) makes it trivial to have your own kernel installed using the package system. 0. make mrproper 0.5 cp /boot/config .config 1.make menuconfig 2.make 2.5 modules 3 make modules_install 4.depmod -a 5.mkinitramfs 6.make install copy files to /boot modify grub/menu.lst THe only part that bugs me is the menuconfig. I'd really like to make a kernel that builds /only/ the parts my laptop needs, but I have no idea what comprises that set! You are missing a few steps. I have modified your list, a bit. There is another way, the Debian way, that makes it almost trivial. It requires the Debian kernel package and the Debian kernel tools. If you run gnome you can substitute make gconfig for make menuconfig. much better. You can copy the old Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
Mark Allums wrote: 0. make mrproper 0.5 cp /boot/config .config 1.make menuconfig 2.make 2.5 modules 3 make modules_install 4.depmod -a 5.mkinitramfs 6.make install copy files to /boot modify grub/menu.lst 2. should read make bzImage 2.5 should read make modules. Although, if you use just make, the bzImage and module are made in one step. I like to make them separately. Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
Mark Allums 15:18 Thu 17 Jul Mark Allums wrote: 0. make mrproper 0.5 cp /boot/config .config 1.make menuconfig 2.make 2.5 modules 3 make modules_install 4.depmod -a 5.mkinitramfs 6.make install copy files to /boot modify grub/menu.lst 2. should read make bzImage 2.5 should read make modules. Although, if you use just make, the bzImage and module are made in one step. I like to make them separately. Thanks! I'm pretty sure the modules_install target does depmod for you, though. Anyway, the procedure is pretty straightforward and I no longer have to consult notes to do it. I missed an opportunity to try it the Debian way recently, when I did a full reinstall dang. Linux fluxster 2.6.25.10-ca #1 SMP Wed Jul 9 18:17:49 EDT 2008 i686 -- Q: Why do the police always travel in threes? A: One to do the reading, one to do the writing, and the other keeps an eye on the two intellectuals. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
C. Ahlstrom wrote: Thanks! I'm pretty sure the modules_install target does depmod for you, though. It may do that now. Just like make does the equivalent of 'make dep' for you now, so you can skip that step. Anyway, the procedure is pretty straightforward and I no longer have to consult notes to do it. I missed an opportunity to try it the Debian way recently, when I did a full reinstall dang. A brief description of the Debian way is in the Debian documentation, if you have that installed. It requires quite a few packages, and it depends on the Debian patched kernel. If you use the vanilla kernel, you may need to use the standard way. Linux fluxster 2.6.25.10-ca #1 SMP Wed Jul 9 18:17:49 EDT 2008 i686 Yes, I see you are using a vanilla kernel. I usually can wait for the Debian package. Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 04:23:00PM -0500, Mark Allums wrote: Lenny/testing with a sid kernel, at my desk. Any 2.6.25 kernel that has problems with nvidia drivers was sid/unstable at the time. I had the problem here on a 7800GT when I moved from 2.6.24 to 2.6.25. I was patient, and they went away when nvidia released their latest driver. I'm using 173.14.09 right now, it's on the main download page for non windows and betas on the nvidia website. Works great. Using the nvidia installer is a terrible idea in the long term. It overwrites files that the package system owns, and the package system will take them back someday, breaking the nvidia driver in the process. Just remember how broken windows tends to be. Then remeber windows allows all sorts of people to make 3rd party installers that overwrite system files in the install. Those two issues are related. Just say no to 3rd party installers. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
Lennart Sorensen wrote: Using the nvidia installer is a terrible idea in the long term. It overwrites files that the package system owns, and the package system will take them back someday, breaking the nvidia driver in the process. Just remember how broken windows tends to be. Then remeber windows allows all sorts of people to make 3rd party installers that overwrite system files in the install. Those two issues are related. Just say no to 3rd party installers. Thanks for that, I am forewarned. However, my point was really about the newest driver working well with the newest kernels. I am not a particular fan of nvidia, per se. (I would like to see them release some of their software as free and/or open sourece.) 3rd party installers are not as a category the problem; the problem is individual software developers not taking the time to do things right. This is a definite issue that Linux is going to have as long as there are different distributions. It is hard for someone to package up something for Redhat, SuSE, Slackware, Debian, and so on. Debian is a particular challenge for them, apparently. I do not run my particular setup as a production system. It won't cost me much time or any productivity to have to fix it when things finally break. So, I don't have to wait for a Debian maintainer to get around to packaging up the solution to my current problem. Your advice should definitely be heeded by someone who is more dependent on their machine being up most of the time. I will keep this in mind when giving out info or advice from here on. Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
Mark Allums 19:36 Wed 16 Jul Lennart Sorensen wrote: Using the nvidia installer is a terrible idea in the long term. It overwrites files that the package system owns, and the package system will take them back someday, breaking the nvidia driver in the process. Just remember how broken windows tends to be. Then remeber windows allows all sorts of people to make 3rd party installers that overwrite system files in the install. Those two issues are related. Just say no to 3rd party installers. 3rd party installers are not as a category the problem; the problem is individual software developers not taking the time to do things right. This is a definite issue that Linux is going to have as long as there are different distributions. It is hard for someone to package up something for Redhat, SuSE, Slackware, Debian, and so on. Debian is a particular challenge for them, apparently. I update nvidia direct from nvidia.com, and have had no issues. Same for the kernel -- I always build it from source myself (that way I can change the configuration). -- There is no royal road to geometry. -- Euclid -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
I am on debian lenny amd64 shipped with an nvidia GeForce 6150, with 2.6.24 release I had no problem running nv driver, now I am 2.6.25 using nvidia proprietary driver with no problem at all. Dual head works fine too. I just followed this brief but operative how-to http://tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/debian/debian-nvidia-dri-howto.html hope this helps 2008/7/15 Seb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I still cannot use the new 2.6.25 kernel due to this problem with nvidia module, even with the recently available linux-headers-2.6.25-2-amd64 and image packages. I'm starting to think that these don't work with my card anymore. If anybody has any further tips, I'd be grateful for them. Thanks. Cheers, -- Seb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 11:02:22PM -0500, Seb wrote: I still cannot use the new 2.6.25 kernel due to this problem with nvidia module, even with the recently available linux-headers-2.6.25-2-amd64 and image packages. I'm starting to think that these don't work with my card anymore. If anybody has any further tips, I'd be grateful for them. Thanks. It compiles and works fine on my machine with those headers. All you should have to do is: apt-get update apt-get install nvidia-kernel-source modules-assistant rm -rf /usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel m-a prepare -t m-a a-i -t nvidia-kernel apt-get install nvidia-glx Then go convince Xorg to actually use the nvidia driver by putting 'driver nvidia' in the appropriate section. Failing to delete any previous version of the module source can cause compile failures. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 08:37:15 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lennart Sorensen) wrote: [...] It compiles and works fine on my machine with those headers. All you should have to do is: apt-get update apt-get install nvidia-kernel-source modules-assistant rm -rf /usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel m-a prepare -t m-a a-i -t nvidia-kernel apt-get install nvidia-glx Thanks a lot Lennart, I've been doing a similar procedure (after updating apt and removing the old nvidia stuff as you suggest): m-a -t -f clean,build,install nvidia apt-get install nvidia-glx and the module builds, albeit with an error I described earlier about a *stack-protector file or directory not being found. But it installs fine. /etc/X11/xorg.conf is also set to use nvidia, as it has since several kernels back in my sid system. However, when booting into the new kernel, all I get is a 1 pixel band displayed along the top of the screen. Downgrading to 169.12-1 (which means going back to the old 2.6.24-1 Linux kernel), as Jaime suggested, is the only way to get a working nvidia in this system. I use a GeForce 6100 card. The only report I could find with this 1 pixel issue is: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=115209 I don't understand where the problem is, but I'll try with your exact recipe and see what happens! Thanks, -- Seb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
Hi, I still cannot use the new 2.6.25 kernel due to this problem with nvidia module, even with the recently available linux-headers-2.6.25-2-amd64 and image packages. I'm starting to think that these don't work with my card anymore. If anybody has any further tips, I'd be grateful for them. Thanks. The kernel and the nvidia driver didn't get along at first, but the latest kernel patchlevel and the latest nvidia driver version now get along swimmingly. So make sure everything is up to date. Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:14:26 -0500, Mark Allums [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] The kernel and the nvidia driver didn't get along at first, but the latest kernel patchlevel and the latest nvidia driver version now get along swimmingly. So make sure everything is up to date. Thanks for the feedback. Are you referring to sid or experimental packages? -- Seb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 08:07:56AM -0500, Seb wrote: On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 08:37:15 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lennart Sorensen) wrote: [...] It compiles and works fine on my machine with those headers. All you should have to do is: apt-get update apt-get install nvidia-kernel-source modules-assistant rm -rf /usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel m-a prepare -t m-a a-i -t nvidia-kernel apt-get install nvidia-glx Thanks a lot Lennart, I've been doing a similar procedure (after updating apt and removing the old nvidia stuff as you suggest): m-a -t -f clean,build,install nvidia apt-get install nvidia-glx and the module builds, albeit with an error I described earlier about a *stack-protector file or directory not being found. But it installs fine. /etc/X11/xorg.conf is also set to use nvidia, as it has since several kernels back in my sid system. However, when booting into the new kernel, all I get is a 1 pixel band displayed along the top of the screen. Downgrading to 169.12-1 (which means going back to the old 2.6.24-1 Linux kernel), as Jaime suggested, is the only way to get a working nvidia in this system. That's just a warning from the kernel headers. No idea what that stack protector thing is about. As for the one pixel thing, I have no idea. So far I have seen issues for some 6100 users and a few 6200 users as well. Everybody else seems very happy with the new driver. One 6200 user installed the 96xx legacy driver instead which solved their problem entirely (and for a 6xxx card there really is no reason to be using the newer driver that I know of). I use a GeForce 6100 card. The only report I could find with this 1 pixel issue is: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=115209 I don't understand where the problem is, but I'll try with your exact recipe and see what happens! I am not even sure what the problem looks like personally. I use a plain AGP GF6200 card in one machine, and so far it has been just fine. But that is on i386 not amd64. I might be able to stick the 6200 in a 64bit machine next week after I transfer a build server at work to a new machine, after which the old server can become my desktop machine (athlon 64 3500+) and would end up with the 6200 card in it driving my two monitors. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
Seb wrote: On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:14:26 -0500, Mark Allums [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] The kernel and the nvidia driver didn't get along at first, but the latest kernel patchlevel and the latest nvidia driver version now get along swimmingly. So make sure everything is up to date. Thanks for the feedback. Are you referring to sid or experimental packages? Lenny/testing with a sid kernel, at my desk. Any 2.6.25 kernel that has problems with nvidia drivers was sid/unstable at the time. I had the problem here on a 7800GT when I moved from 2.6.24 to 2.6.25. I was patient, and they went away when nvidia released their latest driver. I'm using 173.14.09 right now, it's on the main download page for non windows and betas on the nvidia website. Works great. Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
Hi, I still cannot use the new 2.6.25 kernel due to this problem with nvidia module, even with the recently available linux-headers-2.6.25-2-amd64 and image packages. I'm starting to think that these don't work with my card anymore. If anybody has any further tips, I'd be grateful for them. Thanks. Cheers, -- Seb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
Hi, Sebastian Luque wrote: I tried building a few times more and got the full error message: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.25-2-amd64/scripts/gcc-x86_64-has-stack-protector.sh: No such file or directory Just to chip in, I got the same error message when compiling the new module, however the resulting kernel module works fine for me. I'm running this on a Geforce 8600 GT though. modinfo gives: filename: /lib/modules/2.6.25-2-amd64/nvidia/nvidia.ko license:NVIDIA alias: char-major-195-* alias: pci:v10DEd*sv*sd*bc03sc02i00* alias: pci:v10DEd*sv*sd*bc03sc00i00* depends:i2c-core vermagic: 2.6.25-2-amd64 SMP mod_unload [...] Regards, Koen. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
Thanks everyone for the feedback. I found another report with the same card I have, which shows the problem of the 1 thin (1 pixel presumably) line at the top: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=115209 Unfortunately, no solution was offered, so it seems I'll have to just revert back to a previous version of the driver, following Jaime's pointers for building it. Thanks. On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:31:56 +0100, Koen Tavernier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Sebastian Luque wrote: I tried building a few times more and got the full error message: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.25-2-amd64/scripts/gcc-x86_64-has-stack-protector.sh: No such file or directory Just to chip in, I got the same error message when compiling the new module, however the resulting kernel module works fine for me. I'm running this on a Geforce 8600 GT though. modinfo gives: filename: /lib/modules/2.6.25-2-amd64/nvidia/nvidia.ko license: NVIDIA alias: char-major-195-* alias: pci:v10DEd*sv*sd*bc03sc02i00* alias: pci:v10DEd*sv*sd*bc03sc00i00* depends: i2c-core vermagic: 2.6.25-2-amd64 SMP mod_unload [...] Regards, Koen. Cheers, -- Seb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:41:49 -0500, Seb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks everyone for the feedback. I found another report with the same card I have, which shows the problem of the 1 thin (1 pixel presumably) line at the top: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=115209 Unfortunately, no solution was offered, so it seems I'll have to just revert back to a previous version of the driver, following Jaime's pointers for building it. Thanks. Just a quick followup report to indicate that I ultimately succeeded with these steps (for posterity!): 1) rm -rf /usr/src/modules/nvidia /usr/src/nvidia* 2) added /etc/apt/sources.list lines (thanks to Jaime): --cut here---start- deb http://snapshot.debian.net/archive pool nvidia-graphics-drivers deb-src http://snapshot.debian.net/archive pool nvidia-graphics-drivers --cut here---end--- 3) apt-get update 4) apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-kernel-source=169.12-1 5) can't use the latest sid kernel, so go back to 2.6.24-1: apt-get install linux-image-2.6.24-1-amd64 linux-headers-2.6.24-1-amd64 6) boot into 2.6.24-1 and: m-a -t -f clean,build,install nvidia 7) apt-get install nvidia-glx=169.12-1 However, it's frustrating to remain ignorant about what the problem is with my combination of the latest driver, kernel, and have to use an older kernel. Thanks to everyone for your input, -- Seb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:15:32 -0500, Jaime Ochoa Malagón [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, just add to your /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://snapshot.debian.net/archive pool nvidia-graphics-drivers deb-src http://snapshot.debian.net/archive pool nvidia-graphics-drivers install the right version Thanks Jaime, are you referring to nvidia-kernel-source here? -- Seb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
kernel-source and libraries should match version... ii nvidia-glx 173.14.09-2 NVIDIA binary Xorg driver ii nvidia-glx-dev 173.14.09-2 NVIDIA binary Xorg driver development files ii nvidia-glx-ia32 173.14.09-2 NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x driver ii nvidia-kernel-2.6.24-1-amd64173.14.09-2+2.6.24-7 NVIDIA binary kernel module for Linux 2.6.24 ii nvidia-kernel-source173.14.09-2 NVIDIA binary kernel module source On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 6:42 AM, Seb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:15:32 -0500, Jaime Ochoa Malagón [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, just add to your /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://snapshot.debian.net/archive pool nvidia-graphics-drivers deb-src http://snapshot.debian.net/archive pool nvidia-graphics-drivers install the right version Thanks Jaime, are you referring to nvidia-kernel-source here? -- Seb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Perhaps the depth of love can be calibrated by the number of different selves that are actively involved in a given relationship. Carl Sagan (Contact) Jaime Ochoa Malagón Arquitecto de Soluciones Cel: +52 (55) 1021 0774 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
I tried building a few times more and got the full error message: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.25-2-amd64/scripts/gcc-x86_64-has-stack-protector.sh: No such file or directory and although the build process finishes fine, this looks like a bug somewhere which may be rendering the package unuseable. At this point, I'd like to just downgrade to the testing packages. Can someone provide some tips to do this with module-assistant? I have my /etc/apt/apt.conf with the following: APT::Default-Release unstable; so I'm not sure how to get module-assistant to do it. Thanks. -- Seb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
Hi, just add to your /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://snapshot.debian.net/archive pool nvidia-graphics-drivers deb-src http://snapshot.debian.net/archive pool nvidia-graphics-drivers install the right version and use m-a -t -f clean,buidl,install nvidia That usually work for me... On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Seb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried building a few times more and got the full error message: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.25-2-amd64/scripts/gcc-x86_64-has-stack-protector.sh: No such file or directory and although the build process finishes fine, this looks like a bug somewhere which may be rendering the package unuseable. At this point, I'd like to just downgrade to the testing packages. Can someone provide some tips to do this with module-assistant? I have my /etc/apt/apt.conf with the following: APT::Default-Release unstable; so I'm not sure how to get module-assistant to do it. Thanks. I'm quite stuck and without knowing how to do the above, I've tried to use module-assistant again (removing /usr/src/nvidia* and /usr/src/modules/nvidia prior to that) and with the -t switch to have a better log of the procedure (please see attached). In the meantime, I've set my /etc/X11/xorg.conf to use the nv driver (which makes my display look quite funny...). I'm also not sure whether this is a problem in the latest linux kernel image (2.6.25-2) or in the nvidia driver, or their combination, since this only came up after upgrading both. Any further help would be much appreciated. Thanks. -- Seb -- Perhaps the depth of love can be calibrated by the number of different selves that are actively involved in a given relationship. Carl Sagan (Contact) Jaime Ochoa Malagón Arquitecto de Soluciones Cel: +52 (55) 1021 0774 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 08:51:24PM +, Sebastian Luque wrote: I just upgraded to the latest linux kernelimage (2.6.25-2) in my sid system, followed up by the usual 'm-a prepare m-a a-i nvidia. I also rebooted into single-user mode and upgraded nvidia-glx, and got no errors or warnings. However, upon rebooting, I can see that kdm (my login manager) starts fine, but I only get a black screen (with a super thin color line, matching the colors of my login background) at this point. It seems as if the login manager is there, and I can even login blindly by just typing my user name and password. The usual kde sounds, etc. work, but the screen just remains black, so something seems out of whack with X server. I have never had this problem before after upgrades of kernel images and/or nvidia packages. Any help please? Thanks! Which nvidia version? Did you clean up /usr/src/modules/nvidia* before running m0a again (I really wish m-a would celan up rather than just extract on top of old code). Which nvidia card type? -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
Lennart Sorensen lsorense at csclub.uwaterloo.ca writes: Which nvidia version? Did you clean up /usr/src/modules/nvidia* before running m0a again (I really wish m-a would celan up rather than just extract on top of old code). Which nvidia card type? Thanks Len, this is in sid (so nvidia-kernel-source 173.14.09-2), and yes I did 'rm /usr/src/nvidia*' before doing the module-assistant calls. WRT the nvidia card type, I'm not sure where to access that info in my system. If you're referring to the video card, it's a GeForce 6100. -- Seb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
Lennart Sorensen lsorense at csclub.uwaterloo.ca writes: Hmm. Someone else was seeing system crashes with a GeForce 6200 recently. I am starting to wonder if there is a problem with some models and the new driver. I think I have a 6200 around somewhere I could try on, but I certainly don't have a 6100. What does your /var/log/Xorg.0.log say. Perhaps it has a clue as to why the screen would be blank. Thanks again. Nothing looks odd in the log, except for a: Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic, removing from list! which doesn't seem too serious. I'll see if removing that font path from my /etc/X11/xorg.conf resolves the issue, but I doubt it. Should I try installing from experimental with m-a? If so, how? Cheers, -- Seb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia and latest unstable kernel image
I recall seeing a message that went something like: somefile_has_stack_protector: no such file or directory, during the building done by module-assistant. The building procedure hung there for a while and then continued without problems, but I haven't seen that before and may be the problem. Does this ring a bell? Where may I see a log of the build procedure to have a closer look? Thanks! -- Seb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
