Re: state of Java on amd64

2005-10-25 Thread debianista.deb
I installed it by sourceforge :D and now is running okay :DOn 10/20/05, debianista.deb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:nop still not working ;P I don't know why ;( same bug segmentation fault 


$ java -version
java version 1.4.2-02
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build Blackdown-1.4.2-02)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build Blackdown-1.4.2-02, mixed mode)On 10/20/05, debianista.deb
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 wrote:yeah Frank thanks a lot dude :D I had the same problem and my problem was the java version 
1.4.2.01 ;) thanks for the link

cheers
debianista.debOn 10/11/05, Frank 

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I cannot confirm this, Blackdown and Azureus are working fine for me.I am running Blackdown's 1.4.2 (from the testing archive [0]) and Azureus

2.3.0.4 directly from upstream.[0] deb 
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/languages/java/linux/debian testing non-free$ java -version
java version 1.4.2-02Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 
Blackdown-1.4.2-02)Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build Blackdown-1.4.2-02, mixed mode)Azureus starts, quits and downloads (completed the Knoppix download) fine onmy AMD64 system. Is there anything special to getting the JRE running on amd64?
 I used: deb http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/java-linux/debian

 sid non-free and installed the j2re1.4 package (it's a 
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Re: state of Java on amd64

2005-10-20 Thread debianista.deb
yeah Frank thanks a lot dude :D I had the same problem and my problem was the java version 1.4.2.01 ;) thanks for the link

cheers
debianista.debOn 10/11/05, Frank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I cannot confirm this, Blackdown and Azureus are working fine for me.I am running Blackdown's 1.4.2 (from the testing archive [0]) and Azureus2.3.0.4 directly from upstream.[0] deb 
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/languages/java/linux/debian testing non-free$ java -versionjava version 1.4.2-02Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 
Blackdown-1.4.2-02)Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build Blackdown-1.4.2-02, mixed mode)Azureus starts, quits and downloads (completed the Knoppix download) fine onmy AMD64 system. Is there anything special to getting the JRE running on amd64?
 I used: deb http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/java-linux/debian sid non-free and installed the j2re1.4 package (it's a 
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Re: state of Java on amd64

2005-10-20 Thread debianista.deb
nop still not working ;P I don't know why ;( same bug segmentation fault 

$ java -version
java version 1.4.2-02
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build Blackdown-1.4.2-02)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build Blackdown-1.4.2-02, mixed mode)On 10/20/05, debianista.deb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:yeah Frank thanks a lot dude :D I had the same problem and my problem was the java version 
1.4.2.01 ;) thanks for the link

cheers
debianista.debOn 10/11/05, Frank 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I cannot confirm this, Blackdown and Azureus are working fine for me.I am running Blackdown's 1.4.2 (from the testing archive [0]) and Azureus
2.3.0.4 directly from upstream.[0] deb 
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/languages/java/linux/debian testing non-free$ java -version
java version 1.4.2-02Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 
Blackdown-1.4.2-02)Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build Blackdown-1.4.2-02, mixed mode)Azureus starts, quits and downloads (completed the Knoppix download) fine onmy AMD64 system. Is there anything special to getting the JRE running on amd64?
 I used: deb http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/java-linux/debian
 sid non-free and installed the j2re1.4 package (it's a 
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Re: state of Java on amd64

2005-10-12 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 12:00:17AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
 I believe it manages multiple torrents etc. The advantage of multiple
 torrents in a single client is firstly that it's easier to maintain but
 secondly you can set a global upload cap.

So does btlaunchmanycurses from bittornado.

No need to put up with java pains just for that.  Well unless it doesn't
run on amd64 (I haven't tried that yet).

 I've been using g3torrent on Windows for this purpose, but want
 something on Debian of course. g3 is written in python but seems to
 segfault the python interpreter under Debian (hmm there's a trend here).

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state of Java on amd64

2005-10-11 Thread Hamish Moffatt
Hi,

Is there anything special to getting the JRE running on amd64?

I used:
deb http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/java-linux/debian sid non-free
and installed the j2re1.4 package (it's a blackdown.org mirror).

But azureus causes java to segfault


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Re: state of Java on amd64

2005-10-11 Thread Adam Stiles
On Tuesday 11 October 2005 10:01, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
 Hi,

 Is there anything special to getting the JRE running on amd64?

 I used:
 deb http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/java-linux/debian sid non-free
 and installed the j2re1.4 package (it's a blackdown.org mirror).

 But azureus causes java to segfault

There is now a version of Sun Java 1.5 for AMD64.  It's not available as 
a .deb file, but the self-extracting executable  {not the RPM}  works 
reasonably well.

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Re: state of Java on amd64

2005-10-11 Thread Jo Shields

Adam Stiles wrote:


On Tuesday 11 October 2005 10:01, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
 


Hi,

Is there anything special to getting the JRE running on amd64?

I used:
deb http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/java-linux/debian sid non-free
and installed the j2re1.4 package (it's a blackdown.org mirror).

But azureus causes java to segfault
   



There is now a version of Sun Java 1.5 for AMD64.  It's not available as 
a .deb file, but the self-extracting executable  {not the RPM}  works 
reasonably well.


 


make-jpkg works fine on the amd64 .run files

still no browser plugin, though


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Re: state of Java on amd64

2005-10-11 Thread Lars Schimmer
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Jo Shields wrote:
 Adam Stiles wrote:
 
 On Tuesday 11 October 2005 10:01, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
  

 Hi,

 Is there anything special to getting the JRE running on amd64?

 I used:
 deb http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/java-linux/debian sid non-free
 and installed the j2re1.4 package (it's a blackdown.org mirror).

 But azureus causes java to segfault
   


 There is now a version of Sun Java 1.5 for AMD64.  It's not available
 as a .deb file, but the self-extracting executable  {not the RPM} 
 works reasonably well.

  

 make-jpkg works fine on the amd64 .run files
 
 still no browser plugin, though

And azureus still crashes:
azureus
#
# An unexpected error has been detected by HotSpot Virtual Machine:
#
#  SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0x2ae50656, pid=5135, tid=46912501814992
#
# Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (1.5.0_05-b05 mixed mode)
# Problematic frame:
# C  [libc.so.6+0x74656]
#
# An error report file with more information is saved as hs_err_pid5135.log
#
# If you would like to submit a bug report, please visit:
#   http://java.sun.com/webapps/bugreport/crash.jsp
#
Aborted

So, no luck for us.

Cya
Lars
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Re: state of Java on amd64

2005-10-11 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 01:22:22PM +0200, Lars Schimmer wrote:
  make-jpkg works fine on the amd64 .run files
  still no browser plugin, though
 
 And azureus still crashes:

Or more specifically the jvm crashes. Whatever input you have should not
cause a crash...

So is it just azureus, or is the jre on amd64 generally unstable?


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Re: state of Java on amd64

2005-10-11 Thread Michael Haupt
Hi,

On 10/11/05, Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So is it just azureus, or is the jre on amd64 generally unstable?

the AMD64 port of Sun Java 5 runs Eclipse 3.1 on my box. It crashes
occasionally during CVS operations. I don't have any of the crash logs
right now, though. :-/

Best,

Michael



Re: state of Java on amd64

2005-10-11 Thread Frank
I cannot confirm this, Blackdown and Azureus are working fine for me.
I am running Blackdown's 1.4.2 (from the testing archive [0]) and Azureus 
2.3.0.4 directly from upstream.

[0] deb ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/languages/java/linux/debian testing non-free

$ java -version
java version 1.4.2-02
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build Blackdown-1.4.2-02)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build Blackdown-1.4.2-02, mixed mode)

Azureus starts, quits and downloads (completed the Knoppix download) fine on 
my AMD64 system.

 Is there anything special to getting the JRE running on amd64?

 I used:
 deb http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/java-linux/debian sid non-free
 and installed the j2re1.4 package (it's a blackdown.org mirror).

 But azureus causes java to segfault


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Re: state of Java on amd64

2005-10-11 Thread Graham Smith
On Tuesday 11 October 2005 10:42, Jo Shields wrote:
 Adam Stiles wrote:
 On Tuesday 11 October 2005 10:01, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Is there anything special to getting the JRE running on amd64?
 
 I used:
 deb http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/java-linux/debian sid non-free
 and installed the j2re1.4 package (it's a blackdown.org mirror).
 
 But azureus causes java to segfault
 
 There is now a version of Sun Java 1.5 for AMD64.  It's not available as
 a .deb file, but the self-extracting executable  {not the RPM}  works
 reasonably well.

 make-jpkg works fine on the amd64 .run files

 still no browser plugin, though

My experience is that make-jpkg works fine for installing the amd64 Sun JVM 
but that it is basically not worth using unless you are using the box solely 
as a web server. The problem is that the Sun package (at least last time I 
checked which wasn't long ago) only came with a server mode version of the 
JVM which grabs all available memory. Client applications (NetBeans in my 
case) run like a three legged dog because they rely on the incremental GC 
offered by the client mode VM.

After struggling with trying to use the server mode VM for a couple of days I 
switched to the 32 bit version. I found it works best with the 32 libs 
package installed rather than trying to use the libs out of a chroot.

Graham


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Re: state of Java on amd64

2005-10-11 Thread Mike
blackdown works great for me.  Installed deb package.  Web applets, jar 
files everything works as far as I can see.
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Cc: debian-amd64@lists.debian.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 4:42 AM
Subject: Re: state of Java on amd64



Adam Stiles wrote:


On Tuesday 11 October 2005 10:01, Hamish Moffatt wrote:


Hi,

Is there anything special to getting the JRE running on amd64?

I used:
deb http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/java-linux/debian sid non-free
and installed the j2re1.4 package (it's a blackdown.org mirror).

But azureus causes java to segfault



There is now a version of Sun Java 1.5 for AMD64.  It's not available as a 
.deb file, but the self-extracting executable  {not the RPM}  works 
reasonably well.




make-jpkg works fine on the amd64 .run files

still no browser plugin, though


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Re: state of Java on amd64

2005-10-11 Thread Paulo Marcondes
2005/10/11, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 blackdown works great for me.  Installed deb package.  Web applets, jar
 files everything works as far as I can see.

Are you running them from the chroot or are you using amd64-archive?

I am trying to set up a debian workstation/desktop on a sun w2100z
machine (dual opteron250, 8 gigs ram), and I am not sure as to which
course of action I should take.

Now the machine is  running CentOS (which is RH based, or even the
same as RH, but without the RH trademarks)

Thanks,
Paulo Marcondes,
petroleum geophysicist
Rio de Janeiro



Re: state of Java on amd64

2005-10-11 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 08:15:20AM -0500, Mike wrote:
 blackdown works great for me.  Installed deb package.  Web applets, jar 
 files everything works as far as I can see.

And azureus? :)

thanks,
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Re: state of Java on amd64

2005-10-11 Thread Mike

Sorry,

I'm running from pure amd64 sid (No chroot) .  I have not tried azures.  I 
got the blackdown .deb package and installed it.  It automagically setup my 
browsers to run applets.  I've have only run a few simple applets, and 
moneydance with it.  I'd would fret trying it, since it can easily be 
removed.



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Cc: debian-amd64@lists.debian.org
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Subject: Re: state of Java on amd64


2005/10/11, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

blackdown works great for me.  Installed deb package.  Web applets, jar
files everything works as far as I can see.


Are you running them from the chroot or are you using amd64-archive?

I am trying to set up a debian workstation/desktop on a sun w2100z
machine (dual opteron250, 8 gigs ram), and I am not sure as to which
course of action I should take.

Now the machine is  running CentOS (which is RH based, or even the
same as RH, but without the RH trademarks)

Thanks,
Paulo Marcondes,
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Rio de Janeiro



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Re: state of Java on amd64

2005-10-11 Thread Craig Hagerman
On 10/11/05, Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 And azureus? :)


I had tons of problems with Azureus. I tried installing an older
version, upgrading to the newest and everything in-between. I found it
would crash if I was downloading a number of LARGE files at once. A
number of small files was OK. I finally got tired of waiting for a 1.5
from blackdown and installed the sun jre. I have still had a couple of
crashes, but it has been far better overall. My impression is that
there was a memory leak somewhere since the RAM used would slowly
creep up while running Azureus. Maybe that was just me.

Craig



Re: state of Java on amd64

2005-10-11 Thread Mike
Ok. Silly question.  Azures is a bitpim client right?  Why not just use 
btorrent (compiled c version, right of debian repository)?  Or I think there 
was a more fancy graphical bttorrent availabe too, runs in pure64?



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Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: state of Java on amd64


On 10/11/05, Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


And azureus? :)



I had tons of problems with Azureus. I tried installing an older
version, upgrading to the newest and everything in-between. I found it
would crash if I was downloading a number of LARGE files at once. A
number of small files was OK. I finally got tired of waiting for a 1.5
from blackdown and installed the sun jre. I have still had a couple of
crashes, but it has been far better overall. My impression is that
there was a memory leak somewhere since the RAM used would slowly
creep up while running Azureus. Maybe that was just me.

Craig



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Re: state of Java on amd64

2005-10-11 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 10:52:48PM +0900, Craig Hagerman wrote:
 On 10/11/05, Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  And azureus? :)
 
 I had tons of problems with Azureus. I tried installing an older
 version, upgrading to the newest and everything in-between. I found it
 would crash if I was downloading a number of LARGE files at once. A
 number of small files was OK. I finally got tired of waiting for a 1.5
 from blackdown and installed the sun jre. I have still had a couple of
 crashes, but it has been far better overall. My impression is that
 there was a memory leak somewhere since the RAM used would slowly
 creep up while running Azureus. Maybe that was just me.

Thanks for the input.

Two questions then:
1. Can java-package install the Sun self-install package?
2. Where at sun.com do I actually download the files?! I browsed there
earlier and could only find instructions about which file to download,
but not actually how. Do I need to create an account?

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Re: state of Java on amd64

2005-10-11 Thread Paulo Marcondes
2005/10/11, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Ok. Silly question.  Azures is a bitpim client right?  Why not just use
 btorrent (compiled c version, right of debian repository)?  Or I think there
 was a more fancy graphical bttorrent availabe too, runs in pure64?

Also I heard that nothing beats the original client's speed.
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Re: state of Java on amd64

2005-10-11 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 08:57:09AM -0500, Mike wrote:
 Ok. Silly question.  Azures is a bitpim client right?  Why not just use 
 btorrent (compiled c version, right of debian repository)?  Or I think 
 there was a more fancy graphical bttorrent availabe too, runs in pure64?

I believe it manages multiple torrents etc. The advantage of multiple
torrents in a single client is firstly that it's easier to maintain but
secondly you can set a global upload cap.

I've been using g3torrent on Windows for this purpose, but want
something on Debian of course. g3 is written in python but seems to
segfault the python interpreter under Debian (hmm there's a trend here).

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Re: state of Java on amd64

2005-10-11 Thread Scott Wolchok
On 10/11/05, Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 08:57:09AM -0500, Mike wrote:
  Ok. Silly question.  Azures is a bitpim client right?  Why not just use
  btorrent (compiled c version, right of debian repository)?  Or I think
  there was a more fancy graphical bttorrent availabe too, runs in pure64?

 I believe it manages multiple torrents etc. The advantage of multiple
 torrents in a single client is firstly that it's easier to maintain but
 secondly you can set a global upload cap.

Pretty sure that the original client and bittornado include
btdownloadcurses (possibly called btdownloadcurses.py) which takes a
directory name to search for torrents on startup and then manages
those torrents. Upload capping and everything should work.



Re: state of Java on amd64

2005-10-11 Thread Miguel Griffa
The sun jdk crashes easily,  I started 1.5 with eclipse 3.1 and just
leaving eclipse alone the jdk will segfault, the same happened with
tomcat and a mad webapp I have here (not tomcat alone)
I managed to run eclipse fine with bea jrockit jdk which performs really good
I also had downloaded blackdown and ibm jdk (all for amd64) and
blackdown works well for firefox and applets
but IMHO general state of java for amd64 pretty much sucks, I
submitted a bug to sun and the response was misserable.
also, you may notice that tou can try mustang, which I didnt' find any
problem in amd64


On 10/11/05, Scott Wolchok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 10/11/05, Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 08:57:09AM -0500, Mike wrote:
   Ok. Silly question.  Azures is a bitpim client right?  Why not just use
   btorrent (compiled c version, right of debian repository)?  Or I think
   there was a more fancy graphical bttorrent availabe too, runs in pure64?
 
  I believe it manages multiple torrents etc. The advantage of multiple
  torrents in a single client is firstly that it's easier to maintain but
  secondly you can set a global upload cap.

 Pretty sure that the original client and bittornado include
 btdownloadcurses (possibly called btdownloadcurses.py) which takes a
 directory name to search for torrents on startup and then manages
 those torrents. Upload capping and everything should work.




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