Powerfull ARM devices at an affordable price?

2007-09-28 Thread Hector Oron
> > Would it be the ARM device with more RAM in the market at an affordable 
> > price?
>
> Nope.

Which device would be tha one?
Thecus N2100? Allnet 6500?

I'm thinking on getting one of those devices (thecus n2100) to help
debian arm project somehow, any comments?

Thanks

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Re: Off-topic sorry

2007-09-28 Thread Wookey
On 2007-09-28 19:15 +0200, Hector Oron wrote:
> 2007/9/28, Mikael Rudberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Hi
> >
> > I know this is off-topic for this list really but as a lot of people
> > that read this list is into converting different NAS devices to Debian i
> > thought  just  give you a tip on a device i  just recently bought and
> > are using.
> >
> > I have 2 SLUG's but i was running into the problems that the memory was
> > totally exhausted and hence started to look to alternatives. I didn't
> > really find any attractive price performance on other devices out there
> > so i sort of stumbled into this one by chance. http://www.zonbu.com
> >
> > It's a 512mb mini PC with a 1.2 via c7 for the price of $249 and you can
> > install whatever OS you like (if you by the version without any monthly
> > plan)

> Is it an Intel IOP processor? 

No. A Via C7 is an x86 CPU. Or at least I assume it is as a via C3 is.
I imagine this is a normal small PC (like ITX machines)

> Would it be the ARM device with more RAM in the market at an affordable price?

Nope.

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Re: Off-topic sorry

2007-09-28 Thread Mikael Rudberg
Nope this is the cpu http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VIA_C7  (hence the 
off-topic)


Hector Oron wrote:

Is it an Intel IOP processor? I did not see it in the specifications webpage.
Would it be the ARM device with more RAM in the market at an affordable price?

2007/9/28, Mikael Rudberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  

Hi

I know this is off-topic for this list really but as a lot of people
that read this list is into converting different NAS devices to Debian i
thought  just  give you a tip on a device i  just recently bought and
are using.

I have 2 SLUG's but i was running into the problems that the memory was
totally exhausted and hence started to look to alternatives. I didn't
really find any attractive price performance on other devices out there
so i sort of stumbled into this one by chance. http://www.zonbu.com

It's a 512mb mini PC with a 1.2 via c7 for the price of $249 and you can
install whatever OS you like (if you by the version without any monthly
plan)

I have Debian installed on it with 2 USB HD's and i must say it runs
very well i have samba throughput up to 10MB/sek and i run almost
everything i  had on the SLUG's consolidated to this one.

Only hitch i run into was problem with a BIOS setting that initially
caused a lot of problem when i tried to boot from the USB HD rather then
the included flash drive.

/Mikael






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Re: Off-topic sorry

2007-09-28 Thread Hector Oron
Is it an Intel IOP processor? I did not see it in the specifications webpage.
Would it be the ARM device with more RAM in the market at an affordable price?

2007/9/28, Mikael Rudberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi
>
> I know this is off-topic for this list really but as a lot of people
> that read this list is into converting different NAS devices to Debian i
> thought  just  give you a tip on a device i  just recently bought and
> are using.
>
> I have 2 SLUG's but i was running into the problems that the memory was
> totally exhausted and hence started to look to alternatives. I didn't
> really find any attractive price performance on other devices out there
> so i sort of stumbled into this one by chance. http://www.zonbu.com
>
> It's a 512mb mini PC with a 1.2 via c7 for the price of $249 and you can
> install whatever OS you like (if you by the version without any monthly
> plan)
>
> I have Debian installed on it with 2 USB HD's and i must say it runs
> very well i have samba throughput up to 10MB/sek and i run almost
> everything i  had on the SLUG's consolidated to this one.
>
> Only hitch i run into was problem with a BIOS setting that initially
> caused a lot of problem when i tried to boot from the USB HD rather then
> the included flash drive.
>
> /Mikael
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Off-topic sorry

2007-09-28 Thread Mikael Rudberg

Hi

I know this is off-topic for this list really but as a lot of people 
that read this list is into converting different NAS devices to Debian i 
thought  just  give you a tip on a device i  just recently bought and 
are using.


I have 2 SLUG's but i was running into the problems that the memory was 
totally exhausted and hence started to look to alternatives. I didn't 
really find any attractive price performance on other devices out there 
so i sort of stumbled into this one by chance. http://www.zonbu.com


It's a 512mb mini PC with a 1.2 via c7 for the price of $249 and you can 
install whatever OS you like (if you by the version without any monthly 
plan)


I have Debian installed on it with 2 USB HD's and i must say it runs 
very well i have samba throughput up to 10MB/sek and i run almost 
everything i  had on the SLUG's consolidated to this one.


Only hitch i run into was problem with a BIOS setting that initially 
caused a lot of problem when i tried to boot from the USB HD rather then 
the included flash drive.


/Mikael






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Re: Debian on Thecus N2100

2007-09-28 Thread Ross Burton
On Fri, 2007-09-28 at 13:38 +0200, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> * Ross Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-09-28 10:42]:
> > I see that 4.0r1 is broken, is it best to install r0 or are there
> > installer images with the fixed kernel on?  I could try installing Sid,
> > but I'd prefer something known to work. :)
> 
> The problem is that r0 is no longer on the mirrors so you cannot
> install that.  Anyway, there's a fairly easy workaround: install using
> the 4.0r1 images, and when base install fails, do base install again -
> this time it will ask you which kernel version to install.

Ah cunning, that sounds even easier than changing the priority and
getting asked lots of questions.

> > I've never done software RAID before, so I'm being cautious.  Is it
> > fairly simple with the Debian installer to setup a 4G /, 1G swap, and
> > the rest as /home, all on RAID-1?  Would I need a separate /boot, or is
> > the initramfs in the flash sufficient?
> 
> RAID setup in d-i is fairly easy, even if maybe not very obvious (you
> first need to mark some partitions for RAID, then go to a RAID config
> tool, then configure the md partitions).  You won't need a special /boot.

On Fri, 2007-09-28 at 14:45 +0300, Riku Voipio wrote:
> kernel and initramfs in flash is sufficent, no need for a separate /boot
> partition. The setup you want is slightly complex, but it should still
> be fairly simple to setup in d-i. Not simple in sense of "just hit next"
> but rather "if know partitioning well enough to want such a setup,
> you will manage to setup partitions relatively easily in d-i partitioner".

Okay, thanks Martin and Riku.  Maybe I should give the etch installer a
go in qemu so I know what the raid setup does before I let myself go on
a real device. :)

I'm a huge fan of separate /home because of the amount of pain it solves
when the OS itself dies.  I guess a swap file in / instead of a swap
partition would solve the swap-on-dead-disk problem and remove a
partition, I think I'll do that instead.

Thanks,
Ross
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Re: Debian on Thecus N2100

2007-09-28 Thread Riku Voipio
On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 10:42:43AM +0100, Ross Burton wrote:
> I've never done software RAID before, so I'm being cautious.  Is it
> fairly simple with the Debian installer to setup a 4G /, 1G swap, and
> the rest as /home, all on RAID-1?  Would I need a separate /boot, or is
> the initramfs in the flash sufficient?

kernel and initramfs in flash is sufficent, no need for a separate /boot
partition. The setup you want is slightly complex, but it should still
be fairly simple to setup in d-i. Not simple in sense of "just hit next"
but rather "if know partitioning well enough to want such a setup,
you will manage to setup partitions relatively easily in d-i partitioner".

If you have any ideas howto make partioner easier, debian-boot is
probably a better venue as partitioning not really a arm-specific
problem.

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Re: Debian on Thecus N2100

2007-09-28 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Ross Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-09-28 10:42]:
> I see that 4.0r1 is broken, is it best to install r0 or are there
> installer images with the fixed kernel on?  I could try installing Sid,
> but I'd prefer something known to work. :)

The problem is that r0 is no longer on the mirrors so you cannot
install that.  Anyway, there's a fairly easy workaround: install using
the 4.0r1 images, and when base install fails, do base install again -
this time it will ask you which kernel version to install.

> I've never done software RAID before, so I'm being cautious.  Is it
> fairly simple with the Debian installer to setup a 4G /, 1G swap, and
> the rest as /home, all on RAID-1?  Would I need a separate /boot, or is
> the initramfs in the flash sufficient?

RAID setup in d-i is fairly easy, even if maybe not very obvious (you
first need to mark some partitions for RAID, then go to a RAID config
tool, then configure the md partitions).  You won't need a special /boot.

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Re: Debian on Thecus N2100

2007-09-28 Thread Wookey
On 2007-09-28 10:42 +0100, Ross Burton wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm about to order a re-badged N2100 for use as a home NAS, and have a
> few questions about getting Debian onto it.
> 
> I see that 4.0r1 is broken, is it best to install r0 or are there
> installer images with the fixed kernel on?  I could try installing Sid,
> but I'd prefer something known to work. :)

Installing 4.0r1 but setting debconf priority to 'low' means it lets
you specify a kernel so you can put the right one in. This is fairly
painless. See earlier messages this month on this list for details.

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Debian on Thecus N2100

2007-09-28 Thread Ross Burton
Hi all,

I'm about to order a re-badged N2100 for use as a home NAS, and have a
few questions about getting Debian onto it.

I see that 4.0r1 is broken, is it best to install r0 or are there
installer images with the fixed kernel on?  I could try installing Sid,
but I'd prefer something known to work. :)

I've never done software RAID before, so I'm being cautious.  Is it
fairly simple with the Debian installer to setup a 4G /, 1G swap, and
the rest as /home, all on RAID-1?  Would I need a separate /boot, or is
the initramfs in the flash sufficient?

Thanks for any help, and please CC me on any replies because I'm not on
the list.

Cheers,
Ross
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