Suggestions for a SheevaPlug replacement

2011-03-26 Thread David Given
Hello,

I'm looking for some hardware to replace my elderly SheevaPlug house
server --- it's working very well, but there are ongoing niggling
problems with USB and storage, and I'd like something with more ports.

I'm very intrigued by the new Dreamplug, which looks ideal.
Unfortunately it's not cost effective. Here in the UK it would cost 160
pounds (including JTAG module so I get a console), and I can buy a Revo
R3700 mini-PC for only 180, and that's got 2GB RAM, a dual-core D525
Atom processor, 160GB HDD, etc. I don't want to switch away from ARM but
I've got to be realistic.

So can anyone suggest any Debian-friendly hardware I should look at?
Ideally I want something with two ethernet ports and eSATA; I've had
enough of ethernet via slightly unreliable USB...

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Re: Suggestions for a SheevaPlug replacement

2011-03-26 Thread KaruppuSwamy T
Hi,

I suggest QNAP TS-110, which takes just 5W power. I am very much happy with
this home server, powered by Debian Squeeze. It fits well with arm branch of
Debian.

http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2010/08/04/diy-planning-to-build-home-nas-box-cum-digital-photo-frame/

Regards
KaruppuSwamy.T

On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 5:12 PM, David Given d...@cowlark.com wrote:

 Hello,

 I'm looking for some hardware to replace my elderly SheevaPlug house
 server --- it's working very well, but there are ongoing niggling
 problems with USB and storage, and I'd like something with more ports.

 I'm very intrigued by the new Dreamplug, which looks ideal.
 Unfortunately it's not cost effective. Here in the UK it would cost 160
 pounds (including JTAG module so I get a console), and I can buy a Revo
 R3700 mini-PC for only 180, and that's got 2GB RAM, a dual-core D525
 Atom processor, 160GB HDD, etc. I don't want to switch away from ARM but
 I've got to be realistic.

 So can anyone suggest any Debian-friendly hardware I should look at?
 Ideally I want something with two ethernet ports and eSATA; I've had
 enough of ethernet via slightly unreliable USB...

 --
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 │
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Re: Suggestions for a SheevaPlug replacement

2011-03-26 Thread Björn Wetterbom
Or the TS-119, which is fanless.

/B

On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 15:44, KaruppuSwamy T karuppusw...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 I suggest QNAP TS-110, which takes just 5W power. I am very much happy with
 this home server, powered by Debian Squeeze. It fits well with arm branch of
 Debian.


 http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2010/08/04/diy-planning-to-build-home-nas-box-cum-digital-photo-frame/

 Regards
 KaruppuSwamy.T


 On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 5:12 PM, David Given d...@cowlark.com wrote:

 Hello,

 I'm looking for some hardware to replace my elderly SheevaPlug house
 server --- it's working very well, but there are ongoing niggling
 problems with USB and storage, and I'd like something with more ports.

 I'm very intrigued by the new Dreamplug, which looks ideal.
 Unfortunately it's not cost effective. Here in the UK it would cost 160
 pounds (including JTAG module so I get a console), and I can buy a Revo
 R3700 mini-PC for only 180, and that's got 2GB RAM, a dual-core D525
 Atom processor, 160GB HDD, etc. I don't want to switch away from ARM but
 I've got to be realistic.

 So can anyone suggest any Debian-friendly hardware I should look at?
 Ideally I want something with two ethernet ports and eSATA; I've had
 enough of ethernet via slightly unreliable USB...

 --
 ┌─── dg@cowlark.com ─ http://www.cowlark.com ─
 │
 │ I have a mind like a steel trap. It's rusty and full of dead mice.
 │ --- Anonymous, on rasfc





Re: Suggestions for a SheevaPlug replacement

2011-03-26 Thread Phil Endecott
Björn Wetterbom bjorn at wetterbom.se writes: 
 Or the TS-119, which is fanless.

Well the TS-119 is great, but David said:

 I'm very intrigued by the new Dreamplug, which looks ideal.
 Unfortunately it's not cost effective. Here in the UK it would cost 160
 pounds (including JTAG module so I get a console), and I can buy a Revo
 R3700 mini-PC for only 180, and that's got 2GB RAM, a dual-core D525
 Atom processor, 160GB HDD, etc. I don't want to switch away from ARM but
 I've got to be realistic.

My TS-119 cost me £331.81 including its disk...

David, if you want to be realistic, you'll find that in almost all cases small
size, ARM, and even low performance are things that you should expect to pay a
premium for.  For fun you can try to factor in the reduction in your electricity
bill, but normally the small x86 (i.e. Atom) box will still be cheaper.

Regards,  Phil.


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Re: Suggestions for a SheevaPlug replacement

2011-03-26 Thread David Given
On 26/03/11 17:07, Phil Endecott wrote:
[...]
 David, if you want to be realistic, you'll find that in almost all cases 
 small
 size, ARM, and even low performance are things that you should expect to pay a
 premium for.  For fun you can try to factor in the reduction in your 
 electricity
 bill, but normally the small x86 (i.e. Atom) box will still be cheaper.

Well, the R3700 consumes (they say) about 25W when running, which is
about 20W more than the SheevaPlug --- so over a year, the R3700
consumes about 200 kWh compared to the SheevaPlug's 40. I pay about 10p
per kWh, so this means that the relative running costs are 20 pounds vs 4...

It's a shame about the prices; the SheevaPlug occupies a very nice sweet
spot with enough grunt to be useful, low power consumption and a nice
price. The DreamPlug has largely the same specs for twice the price ---
the only difference is that it has a few more ports (although, useful ones).

I've seen the AC100 for 180 pounds, which looks like a pretty nice
device; although not really suited for what I want. Has anyone started
putting the Tegra 2 chipset into mini-PC form factor devices?

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Re: Suggestions for a SheevaPlug replacement

2011-03-26 Thread Phil Endecott
David Given dg at cowlark.com writes:
 Has anyone started
 putting the Tegra 2 chipset into mini-PC form factor devices?

The only one I've seen so far is:

http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/CompuLab-TrimSlice/



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Re: Suggestions for a SheevaPlug replacement

2011-03-26 Thread Tim Small
If price is a large consideration, then you're really looking at
mass-market / consumer devices.

. Linux-based NAS devices (remove and sell the hard disk, and replace
with SSD/ decent SD etc.).  I've used the Buffalo linkstations.  The
newer models have quickish CPUs but may be a bit short of RAM for you
(256M), but some of them have a DDR2 SODIMM socket, I believe.

. Android devices (if you want really cheap, then go for a second-hand
one on ebay, with a broken screen) - most of them will act as a USB
host, but you may have to make a custom cable.  Some of the tablets have
multiple USB host ports.

I've found USB networking pretty stable (can dig out the devices I've
used if you like), but I have deployed 20+ devices which have been on
24/7 for years, some of which exchange terrabytes of data per month.

Tim.


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re: fpc: FTBFS on armel: An unhandled exception occurred at $00033B60

2011-03-26 Thread peter green
I have tried and failed to reproduce this issue in qemu with an up to 
date sid. Can anyone else reproduce it? Since both failures have been 
from the same buildd I wonder if it's some issue with the particular buildd.







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