Re: Will it work for QNAP 420?

2013-08-23 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* George Sedov  [2013-08-23 19:27]:
> 1) First of all, will it work?

Yes, see http://www.cyrius.com/debian/kirkwood/qnap/ts-41x/

> 3) Can I install rootfs not on the SATA drives, but rather on the usb
> flash-stick, thus leaving all of the drives completely system-free?

Yes, that's supported.

> 4) Will I manage all this without any experience with debian? :) I used
> gentoo for several years though.

As long as you have experience with Linux, you should be fine.  I
wouldn't recommend it to people new to Linux, though.
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Re: Will it work for QNAP 420?

2013-08-23 Thread Björn Wetterbom
Having the root file system on a usb flash drive will work fine. I would
advice you to get two identical sticks and dd the data from your installed
stick to a backup stick once installation is finished. Usb sticks tend to
wear over time. They last 2-3 years for me.

/B


On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 9:26 PM, Hoshpak  wrote:

> Am 23.08.2013 20:23, schrieb Shawn Landden:
> > On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 10:27 AM, George Sedov  >wrote:
>
> >> 3) Can I install rootfs not on the SATA drives, but rather on the usb
> >> flash-stick, thus leaving all of the drives completely system-free?
> >> Maybe there are some other ways to keep the system off the disks?
> >>
> > i'm wondering how they do it with only 16MB of flash anyways, you
> could
> > always netboot it via tftp from u-boot
>
> Only kernel, initrd and uboot are installed into the internal flash
> memory. If you use the original Qnap firmware, they only have a pretty
> minimal system installed by default and install the bigger part of the
> firmware onto the harddrives once you plug them in and run the
> initialization wizard.
>
> If you use the Debian installer, you have the option to use the
> harddrives for the root file system or some other attached storage like
> an usb drive. I use the later option with my Qnap TS219 P II and it
> works fine. Since the 420 doesn't seem to be that different (probably
> the same chipset with minor modifications), I don't see a reason why it
> wouldn't work with this device also.
>
> Kind Regards
> Helmut
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Re: Will it work for QNAP 420?

2013-08-23 Thread Hoshpak
Am 23.08.2013 20:23, schrieb Shawn Landden:
> On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 10:27 AM, George Sedov wrote:

>> 3) Can I install rootfs not on the SATA drives, but rather on the usb
>> flash-stick, thus leaving all of the drives completely system-free?
>> Maybe there are some other ways to keep the system off the disks?
>>
> i'm wondering how they do it with only 16MB of flash anyways, you could
> always netboot it via tftp from u-boot

Only kernel, initrd and uboot are installed into the internal flash
memory. If you use the original Qnap firmware, they only have a pretty
minimal system installed by default and install the bigger part of the
firmware onto the harddrives once you plug them in and run the
initialization wizard.

If you use the Debian installer, you have the option to use the
harddrives for the root file system or some other attached storage like
an usb drive. I use the later option with my Qnap TS219 P II and it
works fine. Since the 420 doesn't seem to be that different (probably
the same chipset with minor modifications), I don't see a reason why it
wouldn't work with this device also.

Kind Regards
Helmut


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Re: Will it work for QNAP 420?

2013-08-23 Thread Shawn Landden
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 10:27 AM, George Sedov wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm thinking about buying a QNAP 420, so can you please help me with
> some questions:
>
> 1) First of all, will it work?
> 2) I need transmission, amule, proftpd, samba, murmur, openvpn, squid
> and ntop. Does arm-debian have all these?
>
yes, refer to armel architecture on http://packages.debian.org

> 3) Can I install rootfs not on the SATA drives, but rather on the usb
> flash-stick, thus leaving all of the drives completely system-free?
> Maybe there are some other ways to keep the system off the disks?
>
i'm wondering how they do it with only 16MB of flash anyways, you could
always netboot it via tftp from u-boot

> 4) Will I manage all this without any experience with debian? :) I used
> gentoo for several years though.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Cheers,
> George

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Will it work for QNAP 420?

2013-08-23 Thread George Sedov
Hi everyone,

I'm thinking about buying a QNAP 420, so can you please help me with
some questions:

1) First of all, will it work?
2) I need transmission, amule, proftpd, samba, murmur, openvpn, squid
and ntop. Does arm-debian have all these?
3) Can I install rootfs not on the SATA drives, but rather on the usb
flash-stick, thus leaving all of the drives completely system-free?
Maybe there are some other ways to keep the system off the disks?
4) Will I manage all this without any experience with debian? :) I used
gentoo for several years though.

Thanks in advance

Cheers,
George


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Re: Removing armel from the list of arches we build for

2013-08-23 Thread Shawn Landden
nvm, I guess unstable binutils is up to date

binutils (2.23.52.20130727-1) unstable; urgency=low

  * New upstream snapshot.

 -- Matthias Klose   Sat, 27 Jul 2013 10:37:11 +0200

binutils (2.23.52.20130722-1) unstable; urgency=low

  * New upstream snapshot.
- Fix PR ld/15762, glibc being built without warning sections.
  * Set the libdir for arm64 to lib, not lib64.
  * Stop building the binutils-gold package, let binutils provide
binutils-gold.  Packages requiring gold should explicity pass
-fuse-ld=gold to the compiler, packages requiring the bfd linker
should pass -fuse-ld=bfd to the compiler.
  * Refresh patches.

 -- Matthias Klose   Mon, 22 Jul 2013 21:13:32 +0200



On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Shawn Landden wrote:

> if using gold on armel  patch for unaligned memory access in binutils-gold 2.23 only got merged
> July 17.
>
> http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=15070
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:39 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors <
> timo.lindf...@iki.fi> wrote:
>
>> Gustavo Noronha Silva  writes:
>> > Currently the package uses the default, I tend to use binutils-gold on
>> > my personal builds.
>>
>> That explains the memory problem. Is there some technical problem for
>> using gold also for the official builds?
>>
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Re: Removing armel from the list of arches we build for

2013-08-23 Thread Shawn Landden
if using gold on armel http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=15070


On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:39 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors
wrote:

> Gustavo Noronha Silva  writes:
> > Currently the package uses the default, I tend to use binutils-gold on
> > my personal builds.
>
> That explains the memory problem. Is there some technical problem for
> using gold also for the official builds?
>
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