Re: Hackberry A10 Dev Board for $60

2012-08-07 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 01:23:30PM +0200, Rob van der Hoeven wrote:
 Today i stumbled upon what looks like a very interesting device.
 
 It has the following specs:
 
 CPU : 1.2GHz Allwinner A10 ARM Cortex A8
 GPU : Mali400
 Serial port : 4-pin header
 Audio in: 3.5mm microphone jack
 Audio out   : Audio over HDMI
 USB : 2 x USB A 2.0 ports
 Internal storage: 4GB NAND storage, 1.5GB available in user partition in
 Android
 External storage: SDHC card slot supporting up to 32GB
 Networking  : 10/100 Ethernet, Realtek 802.11n WiFi
 Memory  : DDR3 512MB / 1GB, ~100MB is reserved for the GPU
 Boot: Boot from SD card and internal storage via u-boot
 OS  : Android 4.0 ICS, Linux support
 Digital video   : HDMI up to 1080p
 Analog video: 3.5mm composite AV, 3.5mm component Y/Pb/Pr 
 Power   : NEMA 2-pin power adapter included Input
 AC100-240V-0.4A 50/60Hz Output DC5v
 
 Price is $60 for a system with 512MB, $65 for a system with 1GB.
 
 Link:
 
 https://www.miniand.com/products/Hackberry%20A10%20Developer%20Board
 
 I'm not an ARM expert, but this looks interesting to me. What do you
 think?

Well it is cheaper than my i.MX53 was, and at least the 1GB version
matches the ram.  Both are Cortex-A8 at about the same clock speed.

The lack of SATA is a major minus in my book.  That's a shame since the
CPU supports it, but they seem to have chosen not to provide a connector
for it.

The mali 400 video is nice though.

So looks nice other than no good way to attach fast storage.

It does also seem to be lacking a serial console port.  Interesting.
I wonder how that works.

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Re: Hackberry A10 Dev Board for $60

2012-08-07 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 02:38:30PM +0200, Rob van der Hoeven wrote:
 Thanks for the link to the Mele a1000! Looks even better than the
 Hackberry (its a *complete* little PC for only $70). 

And it has SATA, but only 512MB ram.  Almost perfect.

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Re: Hackberry A10 Dev Board for $60

2012-08-07 Thread shawn
On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 13:23 +0200, Rob van der Hoeven wrote: 
 Hi,
 
 Today i stumbled upon what looks like a very interesting device.
 
 It has the following specs:
 
 CPU : 1.2GHz Allwinner A10 ARM Cortex A8
 GPU : Mali400
 Serial port : 4-pin header
 Audio in: 3.5mm microphone jack
 Audio out   : Audio over HDMI
 USB : 2 x USB A 2.0 ports
 Internal storage: 4GB NAND storage, 1.5GB available in user partition in
 Android
 External storage: SDHC card slot supporting up to 32GB
 Networking  : 10/100 Ethernet, Realtek 802.11n WiFi
 Memory  : DDR3 512MB / 1GB, ~100MB is reserved for the GPU
 Boot: Boot from SD card and internal storage via u-boot
 OS  : Android 4.0 ICS, Linux support
 Digital video   : HDMI up to 1080p
 Analog video: 3.5mm composite AV, 3.5mm component Y/Pb/Pr 
 Power   : NEMA 2-pin power adapter included Input
 AC100-240V-0.4A 50/60Hz Output DC5v
 
 Price is $60 for a system with 512MB, $65 for a system with 1GB.
 
 Link:
 
 https://www.miniand.com/products/Hackberry%20A10%20Developer%20Board
 
 I'm not an ARM expert, but this looks interesting to me. What do you
 think?
 

It even has CAN, hopefully there is a pin-out.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-xbPiTMurpSNzM2N19wV3dUODA/edit 
 Kind regards,
 Rob.
 http://freedomboxblog.nl
 
 
 
 
 
 


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Re: Hackberry A10 Dev Board for $60

2012-08-07 Thread David Given
On 07/08/12 20:30, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 02:38:30PM +0200, Rob van der Hoeven wrote:
 Thanks for the link to the Mele a1000! Looks even better than the
 Hackberry (its a *complete* little PC for only $70). 
 
 And it has SATA, but only 512MB ram.  Almost perfect.

448. 64MB seems to be reserved by the GPU, and we haven't found a way to
turn it off yet.

Also for some people --- including me --- the kernel is horribly
unstable. No idea why. It may be related to various batches of the
hardware, so you may get lucky. (If however, you don't get lucky, and
you happen to know about kernel development, we'd *love* some expert
help on this...)

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Re: Hackberry A10 Dev Board for $60

2012-08-07 Thread David Given
On 07/08/12 21:26, lkcl luke wrote:
[...]
  i thought amery had found a solution to that?  i'm sure it's
 documented on the rhombus-tech.net wiki, on the server page, or
 there's a kernel compile-time switch for de-reserving the stupid,
 stupid hard-coded mali memory allocation.

AFAIK it's only possible to disable the reserved areas below 448MB for
the video decode engine, 2D engine, etc. My patch is now in the kernel
to do this automatically if you build for a headless system. But the
64MB GPU area seems to be inviolable.

You'll need to talk the amery or hno for more info, though; I don't know
anything about the GPU.

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Re: Hackberry A10 Dev Board for $60

2012-08-06 Thread Rob van der Hoeven
On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 12:51 +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Rob van der Hoeven
 robvanderhoe...@ziggo.nl wrote:
 
  Price is $60 for a system with 512MB, $65 for a system with 1GB.
 
  Link:
 
  https://www.miniand.com/products/Hackberry%20A10%20Developer%20Board
 
  I'm not an ARM expert, but this looks interesting to me. What do you
  think?
 
  looks pretty good!  it should be easy enough to get debian up and
 running - if anyone gets one and has any success using the install
 script (below) do let everyone know.
 
  l.
 
 http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/hacking_the_mele_a1000/script_for_installing_debian_on_sdcard/
 

Thanks for the link to the Mele a1000! Looks even better than the
Hackberry (its a *complete* little PC for only $70). 

Rob.
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Re: Hackberry A10 Dev Board for $60

2012-08-06 Thread David Goodenough
On Monday 06 Aug 2012, Rob van der Hoeven wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Today i stumbled upon what looks like a very interesting device.
 
 It has the following specs:
 
 CPU : 1.2GHz Allwinner A10 ARM Cortex A8
 GPU : Mali400
 Serial port : 4-pin header
 Audio in: 3.5mm microphone jack
 Audio out   : Audio over HDMI
 USB : 2 x USB A 2.0 ports
 Internal storage: 4GB NAND storage, 1.5GB available in user partition 
in
 Android
 External storage: SDHC card slot supporting up to 32GB
 Networking  : 10/100 Ethernet, Realtek 802.11n WiFi
 Memory  : DDR3 512MB / 1GB, ~100MB is reserved for the GPU
 Boot: Boot from SD card and internal storage via u-boot
 OS  : Android 4.0 ICS, Linux support
 Digital video   : HDMI up to 1080p
 Analog video: 3.5mm composite AV, 3.5mm component Y/Pb/Pr
 Power   : NEMA 2-pin power adapter included Input
 AC100-240V-0.4A 50/60Hz Output DC5v
 
 Price is $60 for a system with 512MB, $65 for a system with 1GB.
 
 Link:
 
 https://www.miniand.com/products/Hackberry%20A10%20Developer%20Board
 
 I'm not an ARM expert, but this looks interesting to me. What do you
 think?
 
 Kind regards,
 Rob.
 http://freedomboxblog.nl
Is that US dollars, or (as they are in Australia) Australian dollars?

David


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