Re: Will it work for QNAP 420?

2013-08-27 Thread Björn Wetterbom
I can't imagine that would be a problem. I'm running samba + raid1 on a
5-year-old (ish) ts-209 without any problems. It's got a 500 MHz CPU iirc.

My only issue is that I only get about 1 MB/s throughput on a Gbit LAN. But
I haven't yet had the time to isolate the issue, so I'm not sure the
problem is with the ts-209.

Even my Asus rt-n66u router can do samba+transmission+openvpn (not tried it
though), so you should be fine.

/B


On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:04 PM, George Sedov radist.mo...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi guys,

 Thanks for your replies.

 I have another question: everybody tells me that ARM processors are a
 way too slow for raid5+samba+transmission+openvpn, but the only
 information I got on ARM's performance is that Marvell's 1.6 GHz
 kirkwood chips are close to atom N270.

 I guess you have some practical experience with ARMs, can you tell me if
 Marvell's chips will be able to run all these tasks?

 Cheers,
 George


 В Сб, 24/08/2013 в 08:39 +0200, Martin Michlmayr пишет:
  * George Sedov radist.mo...@gmail.com [2013-08-23 19:27]:
   1) First of all, will it work?
 
  Yes, see http://www.cyrius.com/debian/kirkwood/qnap/ts-41x/
 
   3) Can I install rootfs not on the SATA drives, but rather on the usb
   flash-stick, thus leaving all of the drives completely system-free?
 
  Yes, that's supported.
 
   4) Will I manage all this without any experience with debian? :) I used
   gentoo for several years though.
 
  As long as you have experience with Linux, you should be fine.  I
  wouldn't recommend it to people new to Linux, though.



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Re: Will it work for QNAP 420?

2013-08-27 Thread John Holland
On 27.08.2013, at 13:39, Björn Wetterbom bj...@wetterbom.se wrote:

 My only issue is that I only get about 1 MB/s throughput on a Gbit LAN. But I 
 haven't yet had the time to isolate the issue, so I'm not sure the problem is 
 with the ts-209.
 

For me the solution was to replace network cable with a shorter one. dmsg told 
me that the NIC was being initialized at 100/Mbs instead of 1000.

John Holland

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Re: Will it work for QNAP 420?

2013-08-27 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 01:04:59PM +0200, George Sedov wrote:
 Thanks for your replies.
 
 I have another question: everybody tells me that ARM processors are a
 way too slow for raid5+samba+transmission+openvpn, but the only
 information I got on ARM's performance is that Marvell's 1.6 GHz
 kirkwood chips are close to atom N270.
 
 I guess you have some practical experience with ARMs, can you tell me if
 Marvell's chips will be able to run all these tasks?

Well some chips have XOR DMA engines, which can make raid5 quite fast
without using much CPU.

Some have crypto engines that can offload work for ipsec and openvpn.

So it depends on exactly which chip.

In the case of teh qnap ts-420, the CPU is a marvell 6282, which has
XOR DMA engines, and supposedly some security engine.  Raid5 should be
quite good.  Not sure what the support for the security engine is like
in linux or what the performance is likely to be if it is supported.

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Re: Will it work for QNAP 420?

2013-08-24 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* George Sedov radist.mo...@gmail.com [2013-08-23 19:27]:
 1) First of all, will it work?

Yes, see http://www.cyrius.com/debian/kirkwood/qnap/ts-41x/

 3) Can I install rootfs not on the SATA drives, but rather on the usb
 flash-stick, thus leaving all of the drives completely system-free?

Yes, that's supported.

 4) Will I manage all this without any experience with debian? :) I used
 gentoo for several years though.

As long as you have experience with Linux, you should be fine.  I
wouldn't recommend it to people new to Linux, though.
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Will it work for QNAP 420?

2013-08-23 Thread George Sedov
Hi everyone,

I'm thinking about buying a QNAP 420, so can you please help me with
some questions:

1) First of all, will it work?
2) I need transmission, amule, proftpd, samba, murmur, openvpn, squid
and ntop. Does arm-debian have all these?
3) Can I install rootfs not on the SATA drives, but rather on the usb
flash-stick, thus leaving all of the drives completely system-free?
Maybe there are some other ways to keep the system off the disks?
4) Will I manage all this without any experience with debian? :) I used
gentoo for several years though.

Thanks in advance

Cheers,
George


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Re: Will it work for QNAP 420?

2013-08-23 Thread Shawn Landden
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 10:27 AM, George Sedov radist.mo...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi everyone,

 I'm thinking about buying a QNAP 420, so can you please help me with
 some questions:

 1) First of all, will it work?
 2) I need transmission, amule, proftpd, samba, murmur, openvpn, squid
 and ntop. Does arm-debian have all these?

yes, refer to armel architecture on http://packages.debian.org

 3) Can I install rootfs not on the SATA drives, but rather on the usb
 flash-stick, thus leaving all of the drives completely system-free?
 Maybe there are some other ways to keep the system off the disks?

i'm wondering how they do it with only 16MB of flash anyways, you could
always netboot it via tftp from u-boot

 4) Will I manage all this without any experience with debian? :) I used
 gentoo for several years though.

 Thanks in advance

 Cheers,
 George

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Re: Will it work for QNAP 420?

2013-08-23 Thread Hoshpak
Am 23.08.2013 20:23, schrieb Shawn Landden:
 On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 10:27 AM, George Sedov radist.mo...@gmail.comwrote:

 3) Can I install rootfs not on the SATA drives, but rather on the usb
 flash-stick, thus leaving all of the drives completely system-free?
 Maybe there are some other ways to keep the system off the disks?

 i'm wondering how they do it with only 16MB of flash anyways, you could
 always netboot it via tftp from u-boot

Only kernel, initrd and uboot are installed into the internal flash
memory. If you use the original Qnap firmware, they only have a pretty
minimal system installed by default and install the bigger part of the
firmware onto the harddrives once you plug them in and run the
initialization wizard.

If you use the Debian installer, you have the option to use the
harddrives for the root file system or some other attached storage like
an usb drive. I use the later option with my Qnap TS219 P II and it
works fine. Since the 420 doesn't seem to be that different (probably
the same chipset with minor modifications), I don't see a reason why it
wouldn't work with this device also.

Kind Regards
Helmut


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Re: Will it work for QNAP 420?

2013-08-23 Thread Björn Wetterbom
Having the root file system on a usb flash drive will work fine. I would
advice you to get two identical sticks and dd the data from your installed
stick to a backup stick once installation is finished. Usb sticks tend to
wear over time. They last 2-3 years for me.

/B


On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 9:26 PM, Hoshpak mailingl...@pozimski.eu wrote:

 Am 23.08.2013 20:23, schrieb Shawn Landden:
  On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 10:27 AM, George Sedov radist.mo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  3) Can I install rootfs not on the SATA drives, but rather on the usb
  flash-stick, thus leaving all of the drives completely system-free?
  Maybe there are some other ways to keep the system off the disks?
 
  i'm wondering how they do it with only 16MB of flash anyways, you
 could
  always netboot it via tftp from u-boot

 Only kernel, initrd and uboot are installed into the internal flash
 memory. If you use the original Qnap firmware, they only have a pretty
 minimal system installed by default and install the bigger part of the
 firmware onto the harddrives once you plug them in and run the
 initialization wizard.

 If you use the Debian installer, you have the option to use the
 harddrives for the root file system or some other attached storage like
 an usb drive. I use the later option with my Qnap TS219 P II and it
 works fine. Since the 420 doesn't seem to be that different (probably
 the same chipset with minor modifications), I don't see a reason why it
 wouldn't work with this device also.

 Kind Regards
 Helmut


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