Re: debian-installer/tools/yaboot-installer/debian/po de.po,1.3,1.4 es.po,1.10,1.11 hu.po,1.3,1.4
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 11:25:13PM +, Thorsten Sauter wrote: [...] Log Message: Update debconf translations. Convert debian/po/es.po to utf-8 #. Type: text #. Description #: ../templates:54 msgid Creating yaboot configuration -msgstr Creando la configuración de YaBoot +msgstr Creando la configuración de YaBoot #. Type: error #. Description #: ../templates:58 msgid Failed to create yaboot configuration -msgstr Falló al crear la configuración de yaboot +msgstr Falló al crear la configuración de yaboot [...] This file was a mix between iso-8859-15 and UTF-8, and some strings have been encoded twice. Denis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian-installer status report
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would be willing to help with the sparc port. I have a sparc lx, sparc 5, and ultra 5 in my house that are doing nothing. I would be more than happy to help out in testing the sparc ports of d-i. If there are other people working on the sparc ports, please feel free to get in touch with me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have subscribed to debian-boot, and will get started this weekend. Several people, including me, have done some work on d-i for sparc. As of a month ago, I was able to get the netinsall image to build, but didn't try booting it. There was also a need for a silo-installer udeb. The cd build seems to need a sun4u (sparc64) machine to build, so you may want to make the ultra 5 your primary build machine. (I wasn't able to get it to build cleanly on my sparc-LX.) Ben Collins said he was going to do some more work on d-i, I consider him the expert we should be helping. Why don't we do the coordination of work and sparc-specific issues on the debian-sparc mailing list where it would be easier to find? (Mail-followup-to set there.) -- Blars Blarson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.blars.org/blars.html With Microsoft, failure is not an option. It is a standard feature. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting the Debain installer
Quoting Damon L. Chesser ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hi list! I have been trying unscessfully to get the Debian installer. The links on the Debain page are broken, cvs as of today will not let me anonymously log in. I did get a copy prior from Sebastions web page dated 22 Nov. It did not write LILO to hda and eat up my grub (not a problem if it would have wrote, I could have edited LILO to get back my other OS's) How can I get the latest Debian installer? You can get the beta-1, which is currently the most stable d-i version on : http://www.mmweg.rwth-aachen.de/~sebastian.ley/d-i/ (i386) or http://www.soziologie.ch/~steinlin/d-i/powerpc/ (powerpc) The 11-22 version is indeed more broken than beta-1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: d-i CD images unavailable?
Quoting Harald Dunkel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Thanx for the pointer, but I hoped to find a more recent image. More recent images are not necessarily better...:-). At least for ISOs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Proposal for languagechooser and language list
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 07:25:26AM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote: | As long as this refers to the C locale (which would also be first if | sorted alphabetically by locale name -- using the C locale's sort rules, | that is :), that seems ok. If it's en_US or en_UK people are after, | | Yes, that's what I meant. Your suggestion of International english | is the best idea, imho. | | Regional english dialects such as those spoken in the US colonies | sitting near western Europe may of course be listed at their place. And those in the antipodean colonies of that US colony will of course be listed before either, as en_AU comes before en_US and en_UK :-) Out of curiosity, what is the difference (if any) between International English (C) and en_US? Cameron. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Inoffizielle Debian-DVD
Hi ich habe versucht, die inoffizielle Debian-DVD (Sarge) mittels Jigdo zu holen. leider ist seit gestern abend auf der angegebenen URL (ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/ CDROM-Images/debian-unofficial/sarge-dvd/jigdo/) die PC-Version (i386) nichtmehr vorhanden. Ist dies beabsichtigt? Gab es fehler in diesem Paket? und kann ich den bisherigen download trotzdem noch vervollständigen? (Mirrors?) Danke für die Hilfe Andi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: German translation for d-i
Hello, On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 10:18:51PM +0100, Denis Barbier wrote: On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 09:13:26PM +0100, Jan Lübbe wrote: [...] So i downloaded these files and i could start translating them with i.e. gtranslator (which looks quite easy to use). Against which package should i file the bug? debian-installer? snip * debian-installer_*_de.po are de.po files for all debian-installer components. Their name is obtained by replacing / by _ in file full path (but the debian/po part is removed), e.g. debian-installer_tools_lilo-installer_de.po is similar to debian-installer/tools/lilo-installer/debian/po/de.po and package name is lilo-installer, so you should file a bug against this package. Please flag your bugreports with the d-i tag. Well, this does *not* work. I (and others) did some translations for d.i. Since there is no interface for translaters like DDTP, I filed bugs. Now those bugs are wandering through BTS and it seems to be a random walk. My translation is now a year old and still not considered -- quite the opposite: I recently tried to get it included but everyone told me, that he is not responsible and that I should find the person responsible. I recently sent a mail to debian-boot http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2003/debian-boot-200312/msg00063.html in an attempt to understand where those bugs are supposed to go (and also in the case of the aboot-installer who is maintaining it) but I did not get a response (it is only a fortnight ago, btw.). For me, d-i is not very friendly to work with currently. I'd rather prefer to have a single address (person, mail robot, whatever) to send my translations to than just expect mere coincidence (and lots of people telling me to find someone else). I really like to help translating, but first I like to know if there is a chance that these translations are actually included. Greetings Helge P.S. How is the french team handling this? -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Bug#218342: palo-installer: Debconf templates polishing
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 07:06:01PM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote: (Adding Uploaders and last Uploader to CCTollef, I'll stop bugging you for other modules.. :-)) Quoting Christian Perrier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Package: palo-installer Severity: normal Tags: patch d-i See #218273 (lilo-installer) for details Are there plans for fixing this bug (thus changing the templates accordingly to my suggestions...ou reject these suggestions)? is this just waiting for a build/upload? i'm not working on the port, but i do have a sid hppa box can upload. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: my experiences withthe new Debian installer
Hi Could you please tell us which version of the installer you tried (download location and date). Am Mon, den 15.12.2003 schrieb Eric S. Johansson um 00:06: Issues: If you do not have an ethernet cable plug-in during DHCP address acquisition, retrying with a cable plugged in does not acquire an address. Do you understand you right: You tried DHCP without the cable and it failed and then retried with the cable plugged-in and it failed again? This problem existed once with some DHCP clients, but shoud have been fixed long ago. gaudenz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Inoffizielle Debian-DVD
Am Mon, den 15.12.2003 schrieb Andreas Hanemann um 10:01: Hi ich habe versucht, die inoffizielle Debian-DVD (Sarge) mittels Jigdo zu holen. leider ist seit gestern abend auf der angegebenen URL (ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/ CDROM-Images/debian-unofficial/sarge-dvd/jigdo/) die PC-Version (i386) nichtmehr vorhanden. Ist dies beabsichtigt? Gab es fehler in diesem Paket? und kann ich den bisherigen download trotzdem noch vervollständigen? (Mirrors?) [question about where to download sarge DVD's ] As the URL says these are unofficial Debian images. AFAIK the version of the debian-installer on these images is outdated. Probably you are better off by downloading a more up-to-date version of the installer from http://www.mmweg.rwth-aachen.de/~sebastian.ley/d-i/ (the official debian link to these images is down at the moment :-( ) You can install the base system with the netinst image and then install additional packages over the net. There is currently AFAIK no full cd set of sarge. Alternatively you could also download the official CD of the stable release (woody) from the debian homepage. Gaudenz btw: This is an english mailinglist... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#224027: bterm-unifont: Please create .deb package also
Package: bterm-unifont Severity: wishlist I'm considering what's the best console for debian-installer 2nd stage, and checking bogl-bterm. bterm-unifont provides .udeb for 1st stage, but unfortunately there isn't any .bgf font for 2nd stage. It is convenience that bterm-unifont provides .deb package, and bogl-bterm depends/recommends it. Thanks, -- Kenshi Muto [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable Architecture: i386 Locale: LANG=ja_JP.eucJP, LC_CTYPE=ja_JP.eucJP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Proposal for languagechooser and language list
Hi!
Suppose we order the items acording the numbers of people speaking the
languages. Very good -- in order to find the place of my language I
have to remember my geography lessons from the school. I will find
much interesting and even surprising in the order. Undoubtedly the
Debian installer will add to my general knowledge.
Another interesting order is acording to the translation status of
Debian. Let the users know which languages we like and which we
dislike. ;-)
These orders are much better than the order language chooser uses now.
The default option is an English sentence so if I am smart enough I
will guess that the other options are the same sentence translated in
different languages. Now I have to thing how to translate this
sentence to my language. Hm, there are different possibilities. I
can not find my language but is this bacause there isn't a translation
or because I haven't done carefull searching? Very bad.
If you want to make the installer boring, then sort the items
alphabeticaly. When the order is obvious, there is no fun, nothing to
thing about.
On 14.XII.2003 at 11:27 Steve Langasek wrote:
CJK is an exception; not only are speakers of CJK languages least likely
to be familiar with Latin sort order, their language codes are less
likely to correspond to the native name for the language. ('ja' for
Japanese comes from the Western name for the language, as does 'ko' for
Korean, IIRC; and I'm not sure of the derivation of 'zh' for Chinese.)
If someone can think of a sort algorithm that would better serve CJK
users without compromising the utility to the users of the much more
numerous (and harder to identify at a glance) Latin locales, I'd be
interested to hear it.
The maintainer of language-env is japanese and uses the following order:
1 : be (Bielaruskaja,Belarusian)
2 : bg (Bulgarian)
3 : ca (Catala,Catalan)
4 : da (Dansk,Danish)
5 : de (Deutsch,German)
6 : es (Espanol,Spanish)
7 : fr (Francais,French)
8 : ja (Nihongo,Japanese)
9 : ko (Hangul,Korean)
10 : mk (Makedonski,Macedonian)
11 : pl (Polski,Polish)
12 : ru (Russkii,Russian)
13 : sr (Srpski,Serbian)
14 : th (Thai)
15 : uk (Ukrajins'ka,Ukrainian)
Anton Zinoviev
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The partitioner and the debconf priority
Hi! Until now I haven't given much thought about how the debconf priority should change the behaviour of the partitioner. Se lets discuss this. CRITICAL PRIORITY I suppose that this priority should be used for noniteractive installs. Actually it is possible to use some noninteractive frontend but priority=critical is preferable as if something goes wrong the user can easily be told. Acording to debconf specification this priority is for `items that will probably break the system without user intervention'. Suppose we reach noninteractively the partitioner. The first question is `Please choose a partition, free space or device to edit'. In this menu there are not only items for each device and partition, but also items such as `Undo the partitioning', `End the partitioning', etc. If the package `partman-auto' is unpacked then it adds an item `Automaticaly partition the storage devices'. In this case the question is asked with medium priority and the item of partman-auto will be automaticaly chosen. If `partman-auto' is not unpacked then the priority of the menu will be critical because all other items require user interaction. The first question of partman-auto will be `Please choose how the storage devices should be automaticaly partitioned' and the options are `use the free spaces', `use the whole space in some of the storage devices' and `do custom partitioning'. The priority of this question is high. Probaby the database of cdebconf is filled somehow with answers to this and the next questions. When it isn't the default option will be to use the free spaces. If there isn't enough free space then we will be returned back to the menu to choose how the storage devices should be used but the priority will be raised from high to critical. Suppose now that the automatical partitioning finishes successfuly. Then we are returned back to the main partitioning menu (`choose a partition, free space or device to edit'). Its priority is raised from medium to high but high is less than critical so again the menu won't be shown. On this time default option is to `end the partitioning' so the installer happily continues. HIGH PRIORITY First time the main partitioning menu won't be shown because of the priority and as in the previous case we reach the menu of partman-auto. Its priority is high so the user will see it. Now the user has the option to select `do custom partitioning' in which case the main partitioning menu will be shown again. Its priority will be raised so the user will see it. If the user decides to use automatical partitioning then when it finishes we again reach the main partitioning menu. Its priority is raised from medium to high so it will be shown. The user can see the result of the automatical partitioning. Some things can be changed or even completely undone. The default option in the menu is to `end the partitioning'. If the results are satisfactory then the user only has to press enter and the installation continues. MEDIUM PRIORITY The installers main-menu is shown. The main partitioning menu is also shown. The user will be shown some warnings issued by parted. LOW PRIORITY Like with medium priority but the user will be shown also some informational messages by parted. Anton Zinoviev -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian-installer/tools/yaboot-installer/debian/po de.po,1.3,1.4 es.po,1.10,1.11 hu.po,1.3,1.4
El lun, 15-12-2003 a las 08:05, Denis Barbier escribió: On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 11:25:13PM +, Thorsten Sauter wrote: [...] Log Message: Update debconf translations. Convert debian/po/es.po to utf-8 #. Type: text #. Description #: ../templates:54 msgid Creating yaboot configuration -msgstr Creando la configuración de YaBoot +msgstr Creando la configuración de YaBoot #. Type: error #. Description #: ../templates:58 msgid Failed to create yaboot configuration -msgstr Falló al crear la configuración de yaboot +msgstr Falló al crear la configuración de yaboot [...] This file was a mix between iso-8859-15 and UTF-8, and some strings have been encoded twice. It should be OK now, thanks. -- teo Res publica non dominetur signature.asc Description: Esta parte del mensaje =?ISO-8859-1?Q?est=E1?= firmada digitalmente
Re: Installation woes on Dell 8300 (SATA Harddisk)
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003, peter robinson wrote: Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Debian People! I was wondering if you could give me a hand...I am pretty new to Debian but decided to try it out for my new computer, which apparently has too new hardware to be supported by the 2.4.22 kernel. The initial installation process hangs at hda: attached ide-disk driver Previously, detected the hardware reliably (it seems), including ICH5-SATA: chipset revision 2 ICH5-SATA: 100% native mode on irq 9 ide0: BM-DMA at 0xfea0-0xfea7, BIOS settings hda:DMA,hdb:pio (...) ide0 at 0xfea00-0xfe07,0xfe12 on irq9 ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq15 hda: ST3120026AS, ATA DISK drive The computer is a Dell 8300 Dimension Special Edition with a Pentium IV 3 GHz, 120 GB SATA Harddisk (7200rpm, 8MB DataBurst Cache), 1024 dual channel DDR/400 memory and an 128 MB ATi Radeon 9800 Pro-8xAGP graphic card. If you have any suggestions as to how to get Debian installed on this system, I would be extremely grateful!...I imagine I will need to somehow get a newer kernel version with support for SATA? How would I integrate this with the 3.0 installation DVD? I was not able to find a howto online... THanks Peter -- Steve Haavik Sailor Operations Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: 410-545-6340 Cell: 443-829-1532 Fax: 410-396-3722 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installation woes on Dell 8300 (SATA Harddisk)
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003, peter robinson wrote: ICH5-SATA: chipset revision 2 ICH5-SATA: 100% native mode on irq 9 ide0: BM-DMA at 0xfea0-0xfea7, BIOS settings hda:DMA,hdb:pio (...) ide0 at 0xfea00-0xfe07,0xfe12 on irq9 ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq15 hda: ST3120026AS, ATA DISK drive I had a similar problem with a new Gateway system with the same chipset. I was able to use the image at http://nihonlinux.jp/release_en.html to get the system up and running. I had a lot of trouble switching to the 2.6.0-test11 kernel because the drive is listed as SCSI under 2.6.0 (had to fix my fstab by booting Knoppix.) One of my co-workers just used Knoppix to install the system and while it worked, it wasn't as clean as a regular Debian install. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install report
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jukka Neppius wrote: 1. No documents! The page http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ has a promising link to The Debian-Installer's INSTALLATION HOWTO. Unfortunately it does not give anything. I think you'll find that link is working now. We're still in the process of restoring services after the recent security breach of the Debian servers. I think there should be some kind of README in dists/sid/main/installer-i386/ with one line explanation of every file in it and a link to The Debian-Installer's INSTALLATION HOWTO 5. An old problem: I usually make a 'small' root partition. (currently it should be about 150 MB, my first Linux computer had total 80 MB disk space.) This computer had relatively small disk, so I made only / /usr. I should have made symlinks /var - /usr/var ... I forget that while trying to configure non existing CD, so I run out of disk space. Tasksel did hide the error message so I had to use old reliable dselect. It told immediately what is the problem. Fix was easy. Perhaps installer could check the size of / and if it is small and not all big partition were made, ask user where /var should be moved (same with /usr, /home, /tmp). How exactly did tasksel hide the error message? I am not sure if I remember this correctly. I made selections in tasksel and clicked 'Finish'. Screen flashed and I got selection page again with nothing selected. I got out of it and started dselect. I soon got 'disk full' error. I don't think that having the installer make symlinks would be very good. It would be good if it tried to ensure that the disk sizes were sane, but of course different people's definitions of sane varies in this area. I agree. But warning would be nice. Something like: You have very small /, /usr, /var, /tmp 1. Fix by making new partitions. 2. Repeat this test. 3. Proceed anyway. Hint: for example if your / is too small to contain /var you can: ALT-F2 mkdir /usr/var (or if /var is already created 'mv /var /usr/ ') ln -s /usr/var /var For installation to succeed / should be big enough for everything without its own partition. Result was working system. Network and sound drivers were found automatically. Good deal, you should fill out the installation report template you'll find in /root, and file a proper install report with that template that includes the hardware you installed to so we can track it. I'll do that later. - Jukka -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: daily build up and running
Hi Martin, How do you build these images? Probably you have a script. Is this something that can be published? Regards Harri -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(refund-)books closed on d-i development meeting in oldenburg
we now closed the books on the d-i development meeting in oldenburg. money transactions were done last week, (with two exceptions), and except petter, who`s bills i let collect some additional dust, everyone who sent in their bills should receive their money shortly or have it allready. those who did not send in their receipts by now dont need to bother. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
installation report
Got a new machine and installed Debian (identified as 3.0r1). Everything went fairly smoothly. [Layout microflaw in Choose the Language: For German, de- should be de -.] [Got ext2 - no choice offered?] But the package installation phase can be improved. Installing a package means getting it, unpacking it, writing it to disk, configuring it. Package authors have the more or less justified assumption that if one installs a package, one wants to use it. However, this assumption is altogether false at the initial installation. What packages do you want? All, of course. Hundreds of GB free disk space. No time (or knowledge) to go through the list and select things. What do I want? Everything installed on disk, nothing activated. As long as a package is a collection of passive files sitting on disk it does not harm me. It takes some space and I have space. Nothing configured. No questions asked. As it is, I cannot walk away from the installation, because it insists on telling me lots of nonsense and waits for me to hit Return or confirm OK. - xaw3dg is no longer a libXaw replacement But I do not want to know anything at all about xaw3dg. - apmd configuration files have moved - statd uses tcpwrappers - more information is available in /usr/share/doc/fetchmail/README.Debian - kernel link failure info: edit arch/i386/vmlinux.ids and remove '*(.text.exit)' from the 'DISCARD' line Am I expected to take notes? The same holds for many packages. Hundreds, thousands of packages are being installed. It is a bug to come with any message at all at this stage. Don't tell me about X_ttcidfont_conf or Ttf_xtt_wadalab_gothic (or whatever it was). Don't ask me half a dozen times what default spelling dictionary I want to use. One problem with the mistaken assumption that one is interested in configuring a package is that the option None often is missing. The console_cyrillic package insists that I tell it whether I want Russian or Ukrainian or Byelorussian fonts on my console. But I do not want any of those. It is impossible to specify that. Similarly, I do not want diald, I do not want wwwoffle, etc. Stuff must be put on disk, either unconfigured, or configured in a default way. Man pages must tell how configuration can be done or modified. If the binary foo really needs configuration, put the real binary in foo-unconfigured, and let foo be a wrapper script that advises first to run long path name/foo-configure. And then, when everything has been put on disk, and not a single question was asked after the conversation packages? - All, the user has to select what to activate. It is undesirable to run inappropriate services. It is a security risk and takes time at boot and shutdown. The number of daemons is really not very high, so the installation script is allowed to, and indeed should, tell me for each one what it is and does, and ask me whether I want it activated. No, I do not need cannaserver, diald, postgres, innwatch. Somewhat in this category is the question whether X is to be started. (And the answer for me is No, this machine will be headless.) This is an important question. I once lost a monitor to X, and today I wondered whether I was going to lose the second one. Strange loud noises and a chaotic screen looked very unhealthy. So far about the installation. At first sight all is working well. Have still to figure out how to get ssh to do host-based authentication. Andries -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: my experiences withthe new Debian installer
Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: Hi Could you please tell us which version of the installer you tried (download location and date). sure. It was beta 1 (sarge-i386-businesscard.iso). unfortunately, I do not know the date although I grabbed it with wget and the file date is November 14. Do you understand you right: You tried DHCP without the cable and it failed and then retried with the cable plugged-in and it failed again? that's correct. I left the cable out on initial install, waited for the install to fail and then plugged in the cable and tried again at which point is still fail. I did not try hard to reproduce it because I thought it was such an obvious bug that it would have been detected in fixed by now. This problem existed once with some DHCP clients, but shoud have been fixed long ago. indeed. Since I need to reinstall to correct my X11 errors, is there another CD image you would like me to use to confirm whether or not the bug has been fixed? also, is there a list of errors you would like me to verify if they are fixed or not? ---eric -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SPARC: Debian-Installer
Hi! is there any debian-installer media for sparc available? I have two new Sun V240 which I can use for testing (at least until mid January) -- Jörg Friedrich -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lowmem..
Joey Hess wrote: - Making tmpfs use more memory. See bug #219528, which points out that currently d-i can use only 1/2 of memory for its initrd. This might get us down from say, 64 mb minimum to 48 mb (16 mb runtime + 32 mb initrd). No real numbers yet. With this change I can do an install on a machine limited to 38 MB of ram, if I'm careful to configure swap as soon as I can. About 20 mb of swap is used, so there is some swapping going on; before swapon the lowest I noticed memory was at about 500k free. rootskel can delete the 2.4 mb unifont.bgf on installs without framebuffer, saving that much space. Since non framebuffer also uses less memory in other ways, I have gotten an install to work with only 33 MB of ram, booting with debian-installer/framebuffer=false. With freeramdisk, 32 MB installs with framebuffer should be easy, and without framebuffer, we should be in the 24 to 28 mb range. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: daily build up and running
mån 2003-12-15 klockan 14.39 skrev Harald Dunkel: Hi Martin, How do you build these images? Probably you have a script. Is this something that can be published? Sure I have a script, it's even in CVS. :) http://cvs.debian.org/debian-installer/build/daily-build /Martin -- Martin Sjögren [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG key: http://www.mdstud.chalmers.se/~md9ms/gpg.html let hello = hello : hello in putStr (unlines hello) signature.asc Description: Detta =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=E4r?= en digitalt signerad meddelandedel
Re: Proposal for languagechooser and language list
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 03:33:43PM +0800, Cameron Patrick wrote: On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 07:25:26AM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote: | As long as this refers to the C locale (which would also be first if | sorted alphabetically by locale name -- using the C locale's sort rules, | that is :), that seems ok. If it's en_US or en_UK people are after, | Yes, that's what I meant. Your suggestion of International english | is the best idea, imho. | Regional english dialects such as those spoken in the US colonies | sitting near western Europe may of course be listed at their place. And those in the antipodean colonies of that US colony will of course be listed before either, as en_AU comes before en_US and en_UK :-) Out of curiosity, what is the difference (if any) between International English (C) and en_US? Chitlins. (For flavour.) I would expect text written for a C locale to tend to have a simplified grammar compared to equivalent text written for one of the national en_* variants. It also can't be compelled to follow the spelling rules of any of the national locales. And, depending on how the language selection for the installer interfaces with the rest of the locale system, it could also have an effect on the charset in use. -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: lvmcfg and find-partitions
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 12:03:01AM +0100, Thorsten Sauter wrote: But LVM needs a 8e partition type. this is not true on powerpc/newworld nor on s390, non of them know about hexadecimal partition types. bastian -- Only a fool fights in a burning house. -- Kank the Klingon, Day of the Dove, stardate unknown signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: SPARC: Debian-Installer
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 05:12:15PM +0100, Joerg Friedrich wrote: Hi! is there any debian-installer media for sparc available? What about a network boot ( http://bugs.debian.org/220640 ) I have two new Sun V240 which I can use for testing (at least until mid January) Cool. Geert Stappers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sarge INSTALL REPORT - how set IP hostname?
Sebastian Haase wrote: It seems like it found my hardware fine: the Ethernet card works and DHCP gets automatically configured. BUT: I don't want DHCP - I am missing the question where I can specify my static IP. Also I always ended up with hostname being 'localhost'. You need to boot in expert mode, with DEBCONF_PRIORITY=low added to the boot line at the boot prompt, then you'll be able to tell it to skip dhcp and do a manual entry. Thanks for the info - but now it doesn't find a driver module for the network card anymore - ?? I says it is a 3c59x (3com 3c905C-TX) card I think that not noticing that dhcp didn't provide a hostname, and not prompting manually for one is a bug in our netcfg program. Often after reboot I can't read the CDROM drive anymore - I can fix that with modconf by deinstalling the scsi-ide module. Please send details about what model of CD drive you have. I have also seen this with my new test laptop (kindly provided courtesy of Linux Certified, Inc, plug plug), but more data points would be good. $ cat /proc/ide/hdd/model CD-948E/TKU it recognized it fine the first time $ cat /proc/ide/hdd/driver ide-cdrom version 4.59-ac1 But on reboot it tries to use ide-scsi and fails... Should I download a newer CD image than the Dec 7 I have ? Thanks, Sebastian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: status of pppoe support in d-i ?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/USR3/src/P/ppp/ppp-2.4.2+20031127$head -3 debian/ppp-udeb.postinst #!/bin/sh -e echo $0 DISABLED ; exit 0 Oh, I well-know that. I use a modified version. My problem is I cannot manage to properly load the udeb in d-i. After udpkg -i ppp-udeb.deb, I cannot find the postinst anywhere and it is not run. I tried to rebuild d-i with ppp-udeb.deb in the local-udeb but it do not build anymore: 461 symbols, 375 unresolved Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/mklibs, line 469, in ? raise No library provides non-weak + symbol No library provides non-weak devnam Cheers, [Please CC me] -- Bill. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Imagine a large red swirl here. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Proposal for languagechooser and language list
Suppose we order the items acording the numbers of people speaking the languages. Very good -- in order to find the place of my language I have to remember my geography lessons from the school. I will find much interesting and even surprising in the order. Undoubtedly the Debian installer will add to my general knowledge. Well, you don't *have* to know where your language is listed. You just have to find it. The idea behind my proposals is first avoiding to have a more or less random order, like it is currently, with four flavors of french listed in the first page while German is on the second page. This geographical option is, as I already wrote, a politically correct option. As Steve already pointed out, this will put at the top of the list some languages which are currently not really well supported in Debian. Another interesting order is acording to the translation status of Debian. Let the users know which languages we like and which we dislike. ;-) They don't *have* to know. They will just find the most commonly used languages (by Debian developers) at the top of the list. These orders are much better than the order language chooser uses now. The default option is an English sentence so if I am smart enough I will guess that the other options are the same sentence translated in different languages. Now I have to thing how to translate this sentence to my language. Hm, there are different possibilities. I can not find my language but is this bacause there isn't a translation or because I haven't done carefull searching? Very bad. If you want to make the installer boring, then sort the items alphabeticaly. When the order is obvious, there is no fun, nothing to thing about. I don't really understand your point finally. You seem to put some irony, but I'm afraid I don't catch it The maintainer of language-env is japanese and uses the following order: 1 : be (Bielaruskaja,Belarusian) 2 : bg (Bulgarian) 3 : ca (Catala,Catalan) 4 : da (Dansk,Danish) 5 : de (Deutsch,German) 6 : es (Espanol,Spanish) 7 : fr (Francais,French) 8 : ja (Nihongo,Japanese) 9 : ko (Hangul,Korean) 10 : mk (Makedonski,Macedonian) 11 : pl (Polski,Polish) 12 : ru (Russkii,Russian) 13 : sr (Srpski,Serbian) 14 : th (Thai) 15 : uk (Ukrajins'ka,Ukrainian) This more or less looks like Steve's proposal : use language codes as sorting key. Side effect : this is the easiest thing to implement currently, I guess. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: German translation for d-i
Well, this does *not* work. I (and others) did some translations for d.i. Since there is no interface for translaters like DDTP, I filed bugs. Now those bugs are wandering through BTS and it seems to be a random walk. My translation is now a year old and still not considered -- quite the opposite: I recently tried to get it included but everyone told me, that he is not responsible and that I should find the person responsible. Well, you raise an interesting point here : chasing down bugs noone cares about Do you have the bug numbers for the translations you made ? You have probably already published them in the debian-boot mails you mention, but I can't check this currently (being offline). For me, d-i is not very friendly to work with currently. I'd rather prefer to have a single address (person, mail robot, whatever) to send my translations to than just expect mere coincidence (and lots of people telling me to find someone else). There is certainly some progress to do here. Currently, yes, and as far as I know, including translation work mostly depends on a few people invloved in d-i. So far, I've seen several commits by Gaudenz, Alastair, Denis, Joey, etc. We maybe need an internationalisation coordination for d-i. We also need a i18n tag to the BTS (and that need is not d-i specificseveral people involved in i18n have already asked for itisn't it Martin (Quinson)?) I really like to help translating, but first I like to know if there is a chance that these translations are actually included. SUre ? They *will* be included. I don't have CVS access (and don't want to have one as I'm a bit afraid of mistakes:-))) but I'm pretty sure that your work will be included. You mentioned aboot-installer : this is not, for sure, the package which got the most attention recently.but this is not a very good excuse..:-) P.S. How is the french team handling this? Well, luckily we have Denis Barbier and Pierre Machard in the team. Both very active on both the l10n side and d-i side. Denis scripts post a daily reminder in debian-l10n-french with the d-i translation status. Translators (we are a few : between 5 and 10, for d-i stuff) grab the file which needs update by using Denis pages The updated file is posted for proofreading with the [DDR] tag, if proofreading is needed. When it is OK, it is posted again with the [RELU] tag. As the same system is used for non d-i packages, we use an additionnal tag [d-i]. As soon as a [RELU] [d-i] message appears in the list, either Denis or Pierre commit the translation in debian-installer CVS. We also used (in the past), the BTS for this Besides all this, I informally act a d-i translation coordinator for the whole french team : I follow what happens in -boot, try to act when a translation is forgotten somewhere and sometimes, I even prepare the update when the usual translator cannot make it quickly. All this system is not as formal as it appears : it basically depends on a few people giving most of their Debian time to translation:-) IMHO, the most important brick in all this are Denis work for posting daily status updates. As the german team is obviously late, these update could maybe be sent for german language like they are for french. Do you think that would be possible, Denis ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: netcfg debconf templates - please review
On Sun, 2003-12-14 at 15:26, Oliver Elphick wrote: On Sat, 2003-12-13 at 15:05, Matt Kraai wrote: On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 08:18:45AM +, Oliver Elphick wrote: @@ -101,7 +101,7 @@ Template: netcfg/internal-plip Type: text -_Description: Parallel-line IP +_Description: Parallel-port IP The acronym is PLIP, so I think we should stick with the original. Oh I see. I suppose so, then, but I had never heard the phrase parallel line used beofre. I've heard it used before, but never adjectivally and never in relation to computer hardware. However, in all of the Web pages that I see PLIP referred to, it is shown as three words: Parallel Line IP. I suggest keeping it so. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Processing of rootskel_0.56_i386.changes
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rootskel_0.56_i386.changes ACCEPTED
Accepted: rootskel-bootfloppy_0.56_i386.udeb to pool/main/r/rootskel/rootskel-bootfloppy_0.56_i386.udeb rootskel-locale_0.56_i386.udeb to pool/main/r/rootskel/rootskel-locale_0.56_i386.udeb rootskel_0.56.dsc to pool/main/r/rootskel/rootskel_0.56.dsc rootskel_0.56.tar.gz to pool/main/r/rootskel/rootskel_0.56.tar.gz rootskel_0.56_i386.udeb to pool/main/r/rootskel/rootskel_0.56_i386.udeb Announcing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Setting bugs to severity fixed: 219528 Thank you for your contribution to Debian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fixed in NMU of rootskel 0.56
tag 219528 + fixed quit This message was generated automatically in response to a non-maintainer upload. The .changes file follows. -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 17:22:13 -0500 Source: rootskel Binary: rootskel-locale rootskel-bootfloppy rootskel Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.56 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Install System Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: rootskel - Skeleton root filesystem used by debian-installer. (udeb) rootskel-bootfloppy - Skeleton root filesystem used by debian-installer boot floppy (udeb) rootskel-locale - UTF-8 locale used by debian-installer. (udeb) Closes: 219528 Changes: rootskel (0.56) unstable; urgency=low . * Patch from Jeremie Koenig to make the inits use tmpfs if it is present, while falling back to shmfs for those arches still using 2.2 kernel. The patch also tells tmpfs to use a max size of 100 mb, which is a better value for d-i on lowmem machines than the default of 1/2 of ram. Closes: #219528 * If there's no frame buffer, then unifont.bgf is not needed, and it's huge, so delete it to save memory (2.4 mb!) Files: 36f4948d5f4fb8a8d2bc80bc2131285e 702 debian-installer standard rootskel_0.56.dsc 93b2f94c5a0d0d4a09424243a2184e60 17496 debian-installer standard rootskel_0.56.tar.gz 5bc7b11f51f4ab9e78e63d37e728c7ed 5840 debian-installer standard rootskel_0.56_i386.udeb b26ffa9468b5393259f575b0bd683f9d 2748 debian-installer extra rootskel-bootfloppy_0.56_i386.udeb c405d11d73a38cec174b70e3335fc042 34888 debian-installer standard rootskel-locale_0.56_i386.udeb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/3e5i2tp5zXiKP0wRAoW2AJ9l3rJRTltEgQaSunEV840tWymBywCfSKS4 kQyJ/5p+LcpJt6XkNSz4sHk= =0RQ7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
base-config CVS relocated
I've moved base-config's CVS repository to alioth.debian.org. I'd encourage anyone who wants to to set up an alioth account if you do not already have one, and if you mail me your account username, I'll add you to the committers of base-config (Petter is already added as co-admin). Even non debian developers can sign up. I ran this command in my base-config checkout to convert it to the new repository location: perl -i -pe 's!.*!:ext:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/base-config!' `find |grep CVS/Root` Commits to the old repository on cvs.debian.org will fail. This is a test case toward moving d-i's CVS over to alioth on an accellerated schedule, so I encourage everyone to get an alioth account even if you don't need to commit to base-config. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: SPARC: Debian-Installer
Geert Stappers schrieb am Montag, 15. Dezember 2003 um 17:39:24 +0100: On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 05:12:15PM +0100, Joerg Friedrich wrote: Hi! is there any debian-installer media for sparc available? What about a network boot ( http://bugs.debian.org/220640 ) I never did a network boot and I don't have a jumpstart server which is IMHO neeeded. I have two new Sun V240 which I can use for testing (at least until mid January) Cool. :-) -- Jörg Friedrich -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: base-config CVS relocated
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 02:39:54PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: I've moved base-config's CVS repository to alioth.debian.org. I'd encourage anyone who wants to to set up an alioth account if you do not already have one, and if you mail me your account username, I'll add you to the committers of base-config (Petter is already added as co-admin). Even non debian developers can sign up. Why not migrate to subversion ? Ciao -- Daniele -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
netcfg_0.35_i386.changes is NEW
netcfg-dhcp_0.35_i386.udeb to pool/main/n/netcfg/netcfg-dhcp_0.35_i386.udeb netcfg-static_0.35_i386.udeb to pool/main/n/netcfg/netcfg-static_0.35_i386.udeb netcfg_0.35.dsc to pool/main/n/netcfg/netcfg_0.35.dsc netcfg_0.35.tar.gz to pool/main/n/netcfg/netcfg_0.35.tar.gz (new) netcfg_0.35_i386.udeb optional debian-installer Configure the network To Install additional installer components or the Debian Base System over the network, you need to configure the network in the installer. This component will first try to configure your network with DHCP and ask you for static network configuration if this fails. The configured network settings will be copied to you newly installed system. Changes: netcfg (0.35) unstable; urgency=low . * André Luís Lopes - Update pt_BR (Brazilian Portuguese) translation. * Kęstutis Biliūnas - Updated Lithuanian translation * Christian Perrier - Debconf templates polishing (Closes: #223762) * Joey Hess - English fixes. * Kenshi Muto - Update Japanese translation (ja.po) * Oliver Elphick - More template polishing. * Verok Istvan - Updated Hungarian translation * Claus Hindsgaul - Updated Danish translation. Announcing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Closing bugs: 223762 Your package contains new components which requires manual editing of the override file. It is ok otherwise, so please be patient. New packages are usually added to the override file about once a week. You may have gotten the distribution wrong. You'll get warnings above if files already exist in other distributions. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#224065: Package: installation-reports
Package: installation-reports INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: http://www.mmweg.rwth-aachen.de/~sebastian.ley/d-i/netinst-image-i386/daily-2003-11-19/sarge-i386-netisnt.iso. The date on the file is 2003/11/22. uname -a: Linux siegle 2.4.22-1-386 #9 Sat Oct 4 14:30:39 EST 2003 i686 GNU/Linux Date: 2003/12/12 1:30 p.m. EST Method: How did you install? A:net What did you boot off? A:cd If network install, from where? A: carroll.aset.psu.edu Proxied? A: no Machine: Dell precision 420 Service tag: H5115 Processor: PIII 733 Memory: 384MB Root Device: 25GB IDE disk /dev/hda or /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc Root Size/partition table: Command (m for help): p Disk /dev/hda: 27.3 GB, 27373731840 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 3328 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 1 510 4096543+ b W95 FAT32 /dev/hda2 * 511 753 1951897+ 83 Linux -/ /dev/hda3 754328220314192+ 83 Linux -/usr /dev/hda432833328 3694955 Extended /dev/hda532833328 369463+ 82 Linux swap Output of lspci: siegle:~# lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82840 840 (Carmel) Chipset Host Bridge (Hub A) (rev 01) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82840 840 (Carmel) Chipset AGP Bridge (rev 01) 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801AA PCI Bridge (rev 02) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801AA ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 02) 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801AA IDE (rev 02) 00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801AA USB (rev 02) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801AA SMBus (rev 02) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G400 AGP (rev 04) 02:04.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905C-TX/TX-M [Tornado] (rev 78) 02:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: Cirrus Logic CS 4614/22/24 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator] (rev 01) 02:0e.0 PCI bridge: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21152 (rev 03) 03:0a.0 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec AIC-7899P U160/m (rev 01) 03:0a.1 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec AIC-7899P U160/m (rev 01) Base System Installation Checklist: Initial boot worked:[X] Configure network HW: [X] Config network: [X] Detect CD: [X] Load installer modules: [X] Detect hard drives: [X] Partition hard drives: [E] Create file systems:[X] Mount partitions: [X] Install base system:[X] Install boot loader:[X] Reboot: [X] [O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it Partition hard drive: It was probably just me, but I could not figure out how to make an extended partition with logical partitions inside of it using cfdisk. Comments/Problems: Description of the install, in prose, and any thoughts, comments and ideas you had during the initial install. Install was simple. Wrote the ISO to cd, booted the cd. It found all my hardware. I pointed it to carroll.aset.psu.edu and away it went. Questions/comments: When I run lilo I get this message and am unsure of what I should do to solve this: siegle:~# lilo Warning: '/proc/partitions' does not match '/dev' directory structure. Name change: '/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc' - '/dev/hda' The kernel was compiled with DEVFS_FS, but 'devfs=mount' was omitted as a kernel command-line boot parameter; hence, the '/dev' directory structure does not reflect DEVFS_FS device names. Added Linux * -Jonathan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: base-config CVS relocated
Daniele Nicolodi wrote: On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 02:39:54PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: I've moved base-config's CVS repository to alioth.debian.org. I'd encourage anyone who wants to to set up an alioth account if you do not already have one, and if you mail me your account username, I'll add you to the committers of base-config (Petter is already added as co-admin). Even non debian developers can sign up. Why not migrate to subversion ? Trying to keep the pain down to a minimum, and my co-developer doesn't want to use svn yet. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#224073: mklibs: reports broken libraries very ugly
Package: mklibs Tags: patch On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 06:02:35PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote: in a posting on debian-boot [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/USR3/src/P/ppp/ppp-2.4.2+20031127$head -3 debian/ppp-udeb.postinst #!/bin/sh -e echo $0 DISABLED ; exit 0 Oh, I well-know that. I use a modified version. My problem is I cannot manage to properly load the udeb in d-i. After udpkg -i ppp-udeb.deb, I cannot find the postinst anywhere and it is not run. I tried to rebuild d-i with ppp-udeb.deb in the local-udeb but it do not build anymore: 461 symbols, 375 unresolved Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/mklibs, line 469, in ? raise No library provides non-weak + symbol No library provides non-weak devnam We, debian installer system team, have seen this before. At http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2003/debian-boot-200311/msg00925.html is a patch submitted. Cheers, Geert Stappers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: status of pppoe support in d-i ?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which one of the images? How big will it be? Is the netinstall initrd full? I see no reason to put it on the CD initrd, but it can be added to the What is the CD initrd used for? Do you mean the hd-media initrd? business card CD, where it will be available to the installer to use to download debs. This would be acceptable but annoying, as the business card image is about 50 MB big. It could also be put on the net_drivers floppy, for use with a 3 floppy full net/ppp install. That floppy currently has only 71k free (but already includes ppp and serial port modules), so if that is not enough space, we'd need a separate ppp_drivers floppy. Do not forget that the ppp modules are useless without ppp-udeb, so you either find the 200 KB needed by it or remove these too. BTW, what are the serial port modules supposed to be used for? ppp-udeb does not support setting up a dialup connection (it lacks chat(8) and a configuration front end). Anyway, if the plan is to support pppoe with three floppies then I think this part could be skipped, probably users who cannot boot a pppoe initrd from the network or from an USB drive would prefer to download the business card CD image rather than mess with floppies. -- ciao, Marco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gluck alternative ?
On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 07:11:42PM -0800, Sebastian Haase wrote: Hi, on the debian web site, Testing the Debian Installer Beta 1 it still refers to http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/netinst/ gluck seems to be down for 3 weeks now. Is there an alternative place to find later snapshots of the installer? This should probably be announced somewhere like the debian weekly news - only that these also didn't appear since the hack :-( Gluck is back on line. I would vote that at least http://www.de.debian.org gets one news line newer that the 21th Nov - just to show that we are still here ;-) Ask at [EMAIL PROTECTED] how you can help. Regards, Sebastian Haase -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Geert Stappers pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: lithuanian po-debconf translation
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 10:49:27PM +0200, K?stutis Bili?nas wrote: Hi, In attachement there are initial lithuanian po-debconf translation for autopartkit, cdrom-checker and iso-scan. Committed, thanks for your contribution. Please note that a new string has been added to iso-scan. Denis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bosnian iso-image po file corrected
On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 06:53:32PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello (Denis, Alastair :)), I hope this works now! Hi Safir, there are several problems with your update: * It contains a byte-order mark, which confuses gettext (now removed in CVS). * Your file contains CRLF, but most translators are working on GNU/Linux, so diff does not provide any useful information. Also fixed in CVS. * It is broken: $ msgfmt -o /dev/null --statistics po/bs.po po/bs.po:97: keyword uobi unknown po/bs.po:97:5: parse error po/bs.po:98: end-of-line within string po/bs.po:99: end-of-line within string msgfmt: found 4 fatal errors But I cannot fix this one ;) Denis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: German translation for d-i
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 10:06:34AM +0100, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: [...] * debian-installer_*_de.po are de.po files for all debian-installer components. Their name is obtained by replacing / by _ in file full path (but the debian/po part is removed), e.g. debian-installer_tools_lilo-installer_de.po is similar to debian-installer/tools/lilo-installer/debian/po/de.po and package name is lilo-installer, so you should file a bug against this package. Please flag your bugreports with the d-i tag. Well, this does *not* work. I (and others) did some translations for d.i. You did not follow these guidelines, so I do not see why you claim it does not work. Since there is no interface for translaters like DDTP, I filed bugs. Now those bugs are wandering through BTS and it seems to be a random walk. My translation is now a year old and still not considered You filed #173016 on December 14th, 2002 against the installation-reports package. According to http://cvs.debian.org/debian-installer/tools/aboot-installer/debian/changelog Tollef included your translation on December 16th but forgot to tag it as pending. This package was uploaded on July 20th, 2003. For unknown reason this upload did not close this bugreport. It was then reassigned to aboot-installer by Joey Hess on September 23rd, so any regular aboot-installer committer would discover that your translation was already incorporated if Goran Weinholt did not reassign it to aboot on September 28th. I am closing this bugreport now by Cc'ing 173016-done. Please note also that Thorsten Sauter updated the German translation later. -- quite the opposite: I recently tried to get it included but everyone told me, that he is not responsible and that I should find the person responsible. It is a pity you were not directed to the right persons. I recently sent a mail to debian-boot http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2003/debian-boot-200312/msg00063.html in an attempt to understand where those bugs are supposed to go (and also in the case of the aboot-installer who is maintaining it) but I did not get a response (it is only a fortnight ago, btw.). Right, in such cases do not hesitate to ask again. From what I wrote above in my previous post, it should be pretty clear that package name is aboot-installer. There are indeed problems when packages have never been uploaded and thus are not yet known to the BTS, but AFAICT they do not fall into the same black hole as your one, especially if they are tagged with d-i. For me, d-i is not very friendly to work with currently. I'd rather prefer to have a single address (person, mail robot, whatever) to send my translations to than just expect mere coincidence (and lots of people telling me to find someone else). Thorsten Sauter and Dennis Stampfer work on German translations, maybe one of them could act as a proxy if you prefer working this way. Each language team works according to their own rules, you have to find how to work together without duplication of work. Denis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Proposal for languagechooser and language list
big snip/ The maintainer of language-env is japanese and uses the following order: 0 : C ( C, native computer programming ) 1 : be (Bielaruskaja,Belarusian) 2 : bg (Bulgarian) 3 : ca (Catala,Catalan) 4 : da (Dansk,Danish) 5 : de (Deutsch,German) 6 : es (Espanol,Spanish) 7 : fr (Francais,French) 8 : ja (Nihongo,Japanese) 9 : ko (Hangul,Korean) 10 : mk (Makedonski,Macedonian) 11 : pl (Polski,Polish) 12 : ru (Russkii,Russian) 13 : sr (Srpski,Serbian) 14 : th (Thai) 15 : uk (Ukrajins'ka,Ukrainian) This more or less looks like Steve's proposal : use language codes as sorting key. Side effect : this is the easiest thing to implement currently, I guess. Other usefull side effect: users will known their country code. And please consider there are experts who are debian also. Geert Stappers -- country: unix language: C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SPARC: Debian-Installer
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 09:07:27PM +0100, Joerg Friedrich wrote: Geert Stappers schrieb am Montag, 15. Dezember 2003 um 17:39:24 +0100: On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 05:12:15PM +0100, Joerg Friedrich wrote: Hi! is there any debian-installer media for sparc available? What about a network boot ( http://bugs.debian.org/220640 ) I never did a network boot and I don't have a jumpstart server which is IMHO neeeded. Yes, you do need some setup a server side. you need and bootp or dhcp server and tftp server and as content you take the debian-installer files that is surely not a jumpstart server See also http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?DebianInstallerBootpTFTP I have two new Sun V240 which I can use for testing (at least until mid January) Cool. :-) -- Jörg Friedrich Geert Stappers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: base-config CVS relocated
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 09:06:29PM +0100, Daniele Nicolodi wrote: On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 02:39:54PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: I've moved base-config's CVS repository to alioth.debian.org. I'd encourage anyone who wants to to set up an alioth account if you do not already have one, and if you mail me your account username, I'll add you to the committers of base-config (Petter is already added as co-admin). Even non debian developers can sign up. Why not migrate to subversion ? Or why not to gnu arch? Let me guess: We are only 18 days before a new release, so there is no time for tool switch. Ciao -- Daniele Geert Stappers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
R/O CVS Access
Hello, I'd like to start playing with the d-i, but pserver access to CVS is apperently turned off. Is there a way I could get a read only SSH account for CVS? I'm not on the mailing list, so please cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll check the archives, though. Thanks Adam This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: base-config CVS relocated
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 09:06:29PM +0100, Daniele Nicolodi wrote: Why not migrate to subversion ? If we want to do that without droping the history, we need a special version of cvs2svn which know about the release tags, otherwise it will produce many useless copies as tags. if we want to use that, please not on alioth as they don't provide http access. bastian -- There's coffee in that nebula! -- Capt. Kathryn Janeway, Star Trek: Voyager, The Cloud signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Trivial fix for debconf question translation [patch]
Hi folks, I'm including a patch to cdebconf module. This fix how the questions is displayed at client side, the previous version is bad showed with newlines in wrong places. Please apply when possible. TIA, Otavio traducao.dif Description: video/dv -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio -
Processed: Fixed in NMU of rootskel 0.56
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Re: base-config CVS relocated
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Joey, At 15 Dec 03 19:39:54 GMT, Joey Hess wrote: I've moved base-config's CVS repository to alioth.debian.org. I'd encourage anyone who wants to to set up an alioth account if you do not already have one, and if you mail me your account username, I'll add you to the committers of base-config (Petter is already added as co-admin). Even non debian developers can sign up. I'm interesting about maintaining ja.po and improving routine around CJK terminal. My account is kmuto on alioth. Could you add me to committer? Thanks, - -- Kenshi Muto [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAj/eo9cACgkQQKW+7XLQPLHqcwCg2tDmJsoEx3L+Gzsj6MggC3EL mnsAoMtc9iNWaf+l1r779FUcclPbgjxB =On4y -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#224121: apt-setup hangs if debian-non-us is not available
Subject: /usr/sbin/apt-setup: apt-setup hangs if debian-non-us is not available Package: base-config Version: 1.33.18 Severity: normal Tags: sid File: /usr/sbin/apt-setup testing apt sources hangs, or times out so late, that it seems hanging, when e.g. non-us.debian.org is not available: 0% [Connecting to non-us.debian.org (194.109.137.218)] -- System Information: Debian Release: 3.0 Architecture: i386 Locale: LANG=en_US, LC_CTYPE=en_US Versions of packages base-config depends on: ii adduser 3.51Add and remove users and groups ii apt 0.5.14 Advanced front-end for dpkg ii bsdutils 1:2.11n-7 Basic utilities from 4.4BSD-Lite. ii console-data 1999.08.29-24.2 Keymaps, fonts, charset maps, fall ii debconf 1.3.22 Debian configuration management sy ii passwd 2902-12 Change and administer password and ii tasksel 1.18Tool for selecting tasks for insta -- debconf information excluded __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
