Re: goals for next release

2004-01-30 Thread Rick Thomas
I like it!

Ideally, the selector would look at the sub-arch and only offer 
those bootloader options that work on that sub-arch?

Rick

On Thursday, January 29, 2004, at 03:39 AM, Sven Luther wrote:

Ideally, but i don't know if this is beta2 stuff, a bootloader selector
would be done, which on powerpc selects yaboot, quik, nothing, and on
x86 would select grub, lilo, nothing. This could only be shown on lower
priority, and fallen back to if the primary boot-loader somehow fails.


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Re: Bits about countrychooser and languagechooser

2004-01-30 Thread Rick Thomas
Yeah!     Please do this!

On Sunday, January 25, 2004, at 09:26 PM, Jeremie Koenig wrote:

Also, what about adding the C and POSIX locales somehow ?


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Re: New iso-3166-udeb package along with countrychooser

2004-01-30 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

  What is the clean way to do this?
 
 Wait until iso-3166-udeb enters the archive, and then update the
 build/pkg-lists that include countrychooser to also include it.

OK.As countrychooser postinst will then need a file provided by
this package, should countrychooser Pre-Depends on it?


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Re: d-i first-stage configuration

2004-01-30 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 What if we changed how some items on the main menu are displayed, so
 the short version (before the whole installer is loaded) looked
 something like this:


Well, I think this is more or less an implementation of one of the two
proposals I came up in the bits about lang/countrychooser.

Indeed a really interesting idea I definitely like. For sure, this is
an important change but this area would have needed one anyway.

So, if there is here someone able to code this, I definitely vite for
it

About countrychooser : we would then use the current countrychooser?


For languagechooser : this leaves us the choice to either go for one
language, one entry (languagechooser_ng) or one language, few
entries (the current languagechooser). We will have to make a final
choice there also.




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Re: Changelogs, the 2nd

2004-01-30 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Nikolai Prokoschenko ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 So, dear maintainers, as I am not a maintainer myself and do not have
 any idea about how you release your packages, could you please tell me
 how you'd like this automatic-translations-changelogs-update feature
 to work, I'll try my best to implement it!

Maybe silly suggestion but we could include your script in one package
just to see.


As it is supposed to be called when the package is released, I guees
it have to be in the package tree (which could lead to nonsenses like
having the script in each and every d-i package).

Another possibility is having it included as an helper application in
the po-debconf package. Denis probably has an advice to give about
this



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Re: I'm interested in helping with the installer help text

2004-01-30 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting John Buttery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

  So, if you have time to give to the d-i project, then proofreading the
  debconf templates should be a good help.
 
   Definitely; that's right up my alley.  One of my main ideas is that I
 always thought the help text should very explicitly state this is what
 you should put in answer to this question if you don't understand the
 question and want the safest answer, so I'd like to work on that kind
 of thing...but, I'm not opposed to just doing simple proofreading
 without changing the content if that's what the project wants.  Is the
 goal to lean more toward professional phrasing or informal if it
 helps convey the information?  While I do kind of pride myself on being
 able to do both at once, sometimes they're a little mutually exclusive.

During the first proofreading phase, I have tried to have both
together. A more professionnal wording was sometimes
needed. However, as Joey stated the priority is being informative, not
too verbose...and precise...:-)



 
  So you have the correct information for doing this (where to grab
  templates files and son on)?
 
   I don't have anything yet; the email you replied to was the first real
 interaction I've had with Debian (other than a couple of bug reports).


OK. There no real framework for proofreading user interaction
templates, contrary to translation stuff..

You should be able to grab the needed files from the CVS Web
interface.or by checking out a local copy of the CVS repository on
your system. Do you need additionnel information for this or may I
just point you to go to alioth.debian.org and look for the
debian-installer project?

Templates files are located for each package, in the debian
directory. Their name is either templates aloneor
package.templates. For some packages, templates are generated on the
fly, and the file to be proofread is templates-in (or something
similar).

There are a lot of packages in d-i, so a good order has to be
chosen. I suggest you to use the same order than suggested to
translators. Please refer to the file doc/translations.txt for getting
it.

Again, if you need more information on how to get the files, feel free
to ask.

When you have at least one file ready for proofreading, then go for
it, correct it with a text editor, then (at least for the first ones)
repost it there (if possible with a diff). For the first files, this
will allow us to share points of view about some user input
choices.

(I hope I'm clear enough on all topics.)


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Re: d-i PT transalation - please commit

2004-01-30 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Denis Barbier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

  iso_3166 country codes translated by Miguel Figueiredo.
 
 Please file a bugreport against the iso-codes package.

I'm doing the bug report. I deeply prefer this than risking to lose
some work.



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Re: Changelogs, the 2nd

2004-01-30 Thread Nikolai Prokoschenko
On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 07:23:56AM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote:
  So, dear maintainers, as I am not a maintainer myself and do not
  have any idea about how you release your packages, could you
  please tell me how you'd like this
  automatic-translations-changelogs-update feature to work, I'll try
  my best to implement it!

 Another possibility is having it included as an helper application
 in the po-debconf package. Denis probably has an advice to give
 about this

I guess this would be a nice possibility. I'm looking into po-debconf
soon :)

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Re: goals for next release

2004-01-30 Thread Sven Luther
 On Thursday, January 29, 2004, at 03:39 AM, Sven Luther wrote:
 Ideally, but i don't know if this is beta2 stuff, a bootloader selector
 would be done, which on powerpc selects yaboot, quik, nothing, and on
 x86 would select grub, lilo, nothing. This could only be shown on lower
 priority, and fallen back to if the primary boot-loader somehow fails.

On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 02:08:31AM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote:
 I like it!
 
 Ideally, the selector would look at the sub-arch and only offer 
 those bootloader options that work on that sub-arch?

Yeah, it could even build the list dynamically from the udebs that offer
the do-bootable or whatever virtual package for this subarch.

Now, we only need someone to implement it.

BTW, was anyone able to see the little message the nobootloader entry
does provide about info on booting the box ?

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Re: goals for next release

2004-01-30 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Rick Thomas wrote:
 I like it!
 
 Ideally, the selector would look at the sub-arch and only offer 
 those bootloader options that work on that sub-arch?

I hope so, as well as for anything else which is subarch dependent
in this second stage menu.


Thiemo


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Re: Changelogs, the 2nd

2004-01-30 Thread Denis Barbier
On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 07:23:56AM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote:
 Quoting Nikolai Prokoschenko ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 
  So, dear maintainers, as I am not a maintainer myself and do not have
  any idea about how you release your packages, could you please tell me
  how you'd like this automatic-translations-changelogs-update feature
  to work, I'll try my best to implement it!
 
 Maybe silly suggestion but we could include your script in one package
 just to see.

 As it is supposed to be called when the package is released, I guees
 it have to be in the package tree (which could lead to nonsenses like
 having the script in each and every d-i package).

 Another possibility is having it included as an helper application in
 the po-debconf package. Denis probably has an advice to give about
 this

This script could first be put under the top-level scripts/ directory,
one maintainer tests it on his package, and when it is well tested, I
could indeed include it in the po-debconf package.

Denis


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Re: I'm interested in helping with the installer help text

2004-01-30 Thread John Buttery
* Christian Perrier [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-01-30 07:01:36 +0100]:
 OK. There no real framework for proofreading user interaction
 templates, contrary to translation stuff..

  OK...well, I guess we'll either figure out it's not necessary, or
flesh one out during this process.  :)

 You should be able to grab the needed files from the CVS Web
 interface.or by checking out a local copy of the CVS repository on
 your system. Do you need additionnel information for this or may I
 just point you to go to alioth.debian.org and look for the
 debian-installer project?

  I found the debian-installer project, and I'm in the CVSWeb interface,
but I can't seem to figure out which files you want me to edit.  What's
the CVS module name to check out?  It looks like it might be 'd-i',
which would give me the entire project tree...bit of overkill just to
get the docs but I don't really mind, I have plenty of HD space.  :)

 Templates files are located for each package, in the debian
 directory. Their name is either templates aloneor
 package.templates. For some packages, templates are generated on the
 fly, and the file to be proofread is templates-in (or something
 similar).

  Will the templates-in file be in the same directory as the
[package.]templates file (if it exists)?  So basically, I edit
templates-in if it's there, otherwise package.templates or templates?

 There are a lot of packages in d-i, so a good order has to be
 chosen. I suggest you to use the same order than suggested to
 translators. Please refer to the file doc/translations.txt for getting
 it.

  OK.  Just to be clear, this is the document you're referring to:

http://cvs.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/debian-installer/doc/translations.txt?rev=1.14content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markupcvsroot=d-i

  Based on this file, my selection of first file to examine is:

http://cvs.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/debian-installer/tools/languagechooser/debian/templates-in?rev=1.9content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markupcvsroot=d-i

  There's only really one sentence in there to examine, and I don't see
any way to improve that one, but the point is I want to double-check the
logic of navigating the CVS tree to the right files.

 Again, if you need more information on how to get the files, feel free
 to ask.

  I think I've got it, but you may be hearing from me again. :)

 When you have at least one file ready for proofreading, then go for
 it, correct it with a text editor, then (at least for the first ones)
 repost it there (if possible with a diff). For the first files, this
 will allow us to share points of view about some user input
 choices.

   OK.  Is diff -u the preferred format?

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Re: goals for next release

2004-01-30 Thread Herbert Xu
On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 02:41:29PM -, Dermot Bradley wrote:
 
 I'd guess that by the time I get Herbert to agree((if indeed he would) and
 then for debian-installer to use this patched kernel-source-2.4.24 that
 2.4.25 would probably be released with proper support already built in.
 
 I've CCed Herbert in this reply for his comments.

I'm happy to include it in the next release which should come out in
about a week.

If there are other issues like this, it would be good to inform
me as soon as possible.
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Re: goals for next release

2004-01-30 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-01-30 20:35]:
 If there are other issues like this, it would be good to inform
 me as soon as possible.

Do we need any patches for better SATA support?  There have been a
number of installation reports saying their SATA disks weren't
recognized.

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Re: goals for next release

2004-01-30 Thread Herbert Xu
On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 10:05:44AM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
 
 Do we need any patches for better SATA support?  There have been a
 number of installation reports saying their SATA disks weren't
 recognized.

I'm having problems getting responses to my queries on these ICH5
SATA issues.  So far I've only got one response wrt to my query
about their BIOS settings.
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Bug#230344: installs md-modules for a different kernel version

2004-01-30 Thread Matt Kraai
Package: anna
Version: 0.048

anna installs md-modules-2.4.22-1-386-di even though the system is
running Linux 2.4.24.  Here is the excerpt from /var/log/syslog:

 Jan 29 23:25:42 (none) user.debug anna[1069]: DEBUG: install 
md-modules-2.4.22-1-386-di, dependency from md-modules
 Jan 29 23:25:42 (none) user.debug anna[1069]: DEBUG: search for package resolving 
md-modules, dependency from autopartkit

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Re: goals for next release

2004-01-30 Thread Dermot Bradley
 I'm happy to include it in the next release which should come out in
 about a week.

Great. I can hold off a week or two to test a new debian-installer build
with the patches in it.

Also I see that 2.4.25-pre8 was just announced and the notes indicate this
is the last pre with release candidates to come soon.


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Re: I'm interested in helping with the installer help text

2004-01-30 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting John Buttery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

   I found the debian-installer project, and I'm in the CVSWeb interface,
 but I can't seem to figure out which files you want me to edit.  What's
 the CVS module name to check out?  It looks like it might be 'd-i',
 which would give me the entire project tree...bit of overkill just to
 get the docs but I don't really mind, I have plenty of HD space.  :)

From my crontab file:

# Checkout debian-installer
55 19,5 * * *   cd /home/bubulle/src/debian/d-i/HEAD ; CVS_RSH=ssh cvs -d [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/d-i co debian-installer

So, yes, this is d-i module.

  Templates files are located for each package, in the debian
  directory. Their name is either templates aloneor
  package.templates. For some packages, templates are generated on the
  fly, and the file to be proofread is templates-in (or something
  similar).
 
   Will the templates-in file be in the same directory as the
 [package.]templates file (if it exists)?  So basically, I edit
 templates-in if it's there, otherwise package.templates or templates?

More or less yes. This is not always consistent all along d-i modules,
however..:-)

   OK.  Just to be clear, this is the document you're referring to:
 
 http://cvs.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/debian-installer/doc/translations.txt?rev=1.14content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markupcvsroot=d-i
 
   Based on this file, my selection of first file to examine is:
 
 http://cvs.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/debian-installer/tools/languagechooser/debian/templates-in?rev=1.9content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markupcvsroot=d-i
 
   There's only really one sentence in there to examine, and I don't see
 any way to improve that one, but the point is I want to double-check the
 logic of navigating the CVS tree to the right files.

You're OK. languagechooser is the first file we ask translators to
translate, so this is the first which sould be proofread also.

After it, you may go ahead.

  When you have at least one file ready for proofreading, then go for
  it, correct it with a text editor, then (at least for the first ones)
  repost it there (if possible with a diff). For the first files, this
  will allow us to share points of view about some user input
  choices.
 
OK.  Is diff -u the preferred format?

That should make it.



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Re: Changelogs, the 2nd

2004-01-30 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Denis Barbier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 This script could first be put under the top-level scripts/ directory,
 one maintainer tests it on his package, and when it is well tested, I
 could indeed include it in the po-debconf package.

Nice idea. Nikolai, davaï:-)


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Bug#230346: base-config problem during testing installation

2004-01-30 Thread Mike Surridge
Package: installation-reports

Debian-installer-version:
Downloaded at 0924 GMT, 30-Jan-2004 from http://people.debian.org/cdimage/testing/netinst/i386/beta2/sarge-i386-netinst.iso.
uname -a: 
Linux kenmore 2.4.22-1-386 #9 Sat Oct 4 14:30:39 EST 2003 i686 GNU/Linux
Date: 1100 GMT, 30-Jan-2004
Method: Booted from CD created using the above netinst image.  Then proceeded with network install using www.mirror.ac.uk.  No proxy.
Machine: Time Notebook PC model 8375
Processor: Mobile Athlon XP-M 2200+
Memory: 256MB
Root Device: IDE
Root Size/partition table:
Root partition is 995960 1k blocks

Output of lspci:
00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. P/KN266 Host Bridge
00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8633 [Apollo Pro266 AGP]
00:09.0 CardBus bridge: ENE Technology Inc CB1410 Cardbus Controller (rev 01)
00:0b.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. IEEE 1394 Host Controller (rev 80)
00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 80)
00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 80)
00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 82)
00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8235 ISA Bridge
00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. 
VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT8233/A/C/VT8235 PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235 AC97 Audio 
Controller (rev 50)
00:11.6 Communication controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. Intel 537 [AC97 Modem] (rev 
80)
00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 74)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266]
Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[O]
Reboot: [O]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it
Comments/Problems:

Everything OK until running base-config after the reboot.  Here base-config seemed unable to track which steps had been completed.  The first problem was in configuring APT sources - in my case http using www.mirror.ac.uk.  I set these options, and the package lists were downloaded OK, but then the config script repeatedly asked me to re-enter the APT sources, but without downloading again.  After a few repeats I hit Cancel and returned to the main menu, manually shifted to Select packages to install and everything seemed OK.

After selecting and installing packages using aptitude, the script then asked me for MTA configuration options.  After entering these the script returned me to the main menu, but still at the point Configure the MTA.  Manual selection of the subsequent option worked OK.

This behaviour was seen when I re-ran base-config later from the command prompt.

Neither problem is fatal, but the first problem could be serious during installation by a newbie, as they may not feel confident about proceeding manually past the repeated steps.  Such a user would never get past the APT configuration step.





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Re: Make bootable CD from downloaded iso

2004-01-30 Thread Steve Haavik
On Thu, 29 Jan 2004, David MacQuigg wrote:

 I would like a simple procedure to make a bootable CD out of this image
 file, preferably one that will work from a bare-minimum Linux system ( or
 even from Windows XP, if that is at all possible ).  Thanks for your help.

Suggestions for recording the image using linux are at
http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#record-unix although the example
commandline they give looks overly complicated. Instructions for doing it
under Windows are there also. Cdrecord should be on the Knoppix cd (at
least I seem to remember burning disks using it...)

On my Windows XP box all I have to do is double click on the ISO and
Easy-CD Creator starts. Under Linux I use cdrecord. The exact command line
I use for it is cdrecord -v -eject dev=0,0,0 filename.iso. You can use
cdrecord -scanbus to findout what device number you should be using for
the dev= option.



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Re: Changelogs, the 2nd

2004-01-30 Thread Nikolai Prokoschenko
On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 01:30:15PM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote:

  This script could first be put under the top-level scripts/
  directory, one maintainer tests it on his package, and when it is
  well tested, I could indeed include it in the po-debconf package.
 Nice idea. Nikolai, dava:-)

Done, it's in there. I want all usability  other bugs in my inbox :)

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Install Report - Failure to detect SCSI Adaptec AIC-7892a

2004-01-30 Thread Erik Dykema
Hi-
	I have been testing the daily builds almost every weekday since at 
least december, so far progress has continued to the point where i can 
get almost all the way through the installer :)
	However in the past few days the installer has failed to detect the 
scsi card in my machine, which seems to be a big step backwards.
	It's a Dell PowerApp Web 100 1U server.  The installer stops on the 
'Partition Hard Disk' step, and won't go any further. I have checked 
dmesg and the usual lines where it picks up on the scsi controller are gone.
	I think this might have something to do with the new kernel.  Previous 
attempts at installation got past this point, but they were .22 kernels. 
 Now, uname says it's 2.4.24 .

Erik

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Woody on Panasonic cf-48

2004-01-30 Thread Arley Carter
Has anybody had any luck getting a cf-48 to boot the latest woody (stable)
debian release?
The furthest I gotten is it boot script will probe the hardware but then
hang on the message
Uniform CDROM driver version 3.11
The only anomaly I have noticed when it prints the probing messages is the
screen  is
PCI-IDE unknown IDE controller on PCI bus 00 device f9, vid=8086 DID=248a
PCI _IDE not 100% native mode will probe irqs later.

But then it appears to probe the irq's and finds ide0 on irq14 and ide1 on
irq15.

I used compact at the command boot line.

-arc

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Bug#230374: Package: installation-reports

2004-01-30 Thread Alan Stephens
Package: installation-reports

INSTALL REPORT

Debian-installer-version: 'sarge' beta 2 from http://people.debian.org
uname -a: Linux lenny 2.4.22-1-386 #9 Sat Oct 4 14:30:39 EST 2003 i686
GNU/Linux
Date: Thu Jan 29 21:00:00 UTC 2004
Method: Boot from 100MB CD image
Machine: Generic PC Clone, Pentium IV
Processor: Pentium4 (i686)
Memory: 512M
Root Device: /dev/hda1
Root Size/partition table:

Disk /dev/hda: 2498 cylinders, 255 heads, 63 sectors/track
Units = cylinders of 8225280 bytes, blocks of 1024 bytes, counting from
0

   Device Boot Start End   #cyls#blocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1   *  0+   23702371-  19045026   83  Linux   -- Root
here
/dev/hda2   23712497 1271020127+  82  Linux swap
/dev/hda3  0   -   0  00  Empty
/dev/hda4  0   -   0  00  Empty

Output of lspci:

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82845 845 (Brookdale) Chipset Host
Bridge (rev 03)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82845 845 (Brookdale) Chipset AGP Bridge
(rev 03)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BA/CA/DB/EB PCI Bridge (rev 12)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BA ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 12)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801BA IDE U100 (rev 12)
00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM USB (Hub #1) (rev 12)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM SMBus (rev 12)
00:1f.4 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM USB (Hub #2) (rev 12)
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio
(rev 12)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 PF/PRO
AGP 4x TMDS
02:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro 100]
(rev 0c)

Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[O]
Reboot: [O]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems:

No problems--very straightforward installation process!  Much easier
than
with 'woody'.  Nice job!
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Bug#230372: discover: [INTL:zh_CN] Simplified Chinese debconf template

2004-01-30 Thread Carlos Z.F. Liu
Package: discover
Severity: wishlist
Tags: patch l10n

The attachment is the Simplified Chinese debconf translation. It was
translated by Hiei Xu, and was reviewed by some chinese users already.

Thanks.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux cliux.homeunix.net 2.4.24-ck1 #1 Mon Jan 19 01:37:52 NZDT 2004 i686
Locale: LANG=en_US, LC_CTYPE=zh_CN.GBK

#
#Translators, if you are not familiar with the PO format, gettext
#documentation is worth reading, especially sections dedicated to
#this format, e.g. by running:
# info -n '(gettext)PO Files'
# info -n '(gettext)Header Entry'
#
#Some information specific to po-debconf are available at
#/usr/share/doc/po-debconf/README-trans
# or http://www.debian.org/intl/l10n/po-debconf/README-trans
#
#Developers do not need to manually edit POT or PO files.
#
msgid 
msgstr 
Project-Id-Version: discover\n
Report-Msgid-Bugs-To: \n
POT-Creation-Date: 2003-11-17 18:46+0100\n
PO-Revision-Date: 2004-01-30 11:54+0800\n
Last-Translator: Hiei Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED]\n
Language-Team: Chinese/Simplified [EMAIL PROTECTED]\n
MIME-Version: 1.0\n
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8\n
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit\n

#. Type: boolean
#. Description
#: ../discover.templates:4
msgid Manage CD-ROM devices and mount points with discover?
msgstr  discover  CD-ROM 

#. Type: boolean
#. Description
#: ../discover.templates:4
msgid 
The \discover\ program can automatically manage the /dev/cdrom* symbolic 
links and device mount points, if you desire.  The available CD-ROM (and 
compatible) devices are scanned at boot-time and these links and mount 
points can be automatically updated.
msgstr 
discover /dev/cdrom* 

 CD-ROM 


#. Type: boolean
#. Description
#: ../discover.templates:4
msgid 
If you enable this option, discover will link /dev/cdrom to /dev/cdrom0 for 
convenience.
msgstr 
 discover  /dev/cdrom 
 
/dev/cdrom0 

#. Type: boolean
#. Description
#: ../discover.templates:4
msgid 
If you don't want discover to manage the device symbolic links and mount 
points for you, decline this option.
msgstr 
 discover 


#. Type: string
#. Description
#: ../discover.templates:19
msgid Directory for CD-ROM device mount points:
msgstr CD-ROM 

#. Type: string
#. Description
#: ../discover.templates:19
msgid 
Mounted filesystems accessible via CD-ROM (or compatible) devices can be 
placed just about anywhere in the filesystem hierarchy, but it is common to 
place them off the root directory, so that they are available as, e.g., \/
cdrom0\, \/cdrom1\, and so forth.
msgstr 
 CD-ROM 

/cdrom0,
 /cdrom1

#. Type: string
#. Description
#: ../discover.templates:19
msgid 
Note that discover will link the \cdrom\ mount point to the \cdrom0\ 
mount point for convenience.
msgstr 
discover 
cdromcdrom0

#. Type: string
#. Description
#: ../discover.templates:19
msgid 
Unless you have a need or preference for placing the CD-ROM mount points 
elsewhere, the root directory (\/\) is a good choice.
msgstr 
  CD-ROM 
(/)


#. Type: note
#. Description
#: ../discover.templates:33
msgid Invalid path for mount point
msgstr 

#. Type: note
#. Description
#: ../discover.templates:33
msgid You entered an invalid path as CD-ROM devices mount point.
msgstr  CD-ROM 

#. Type: note
#. Description
#: ../discover.templates:33
msgid 
The base filesystem mount point for CD-ROM drives must be an absolute path 
(begin with \/\) and must not be null.  If the path does not exist, it 
will be created when needed.
msgstr 
CD-ROM 
(/)



Re: goals for next release

2004-01-30 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 02:58:41PM +1000, Andrew Pollock wrote:
 From my experience, what I believe the automated installs in d-i to do (not
 having seen it done or tested it yet), it's not going to scratch the surface
 of the functionality that FAI does, and FAI pisses all over KickStart for
 flexibility (with the appropriate increase in learning curve and
 complexity).

Well, could you please elaborate a bit on what FAI could do that d-i will not
be able to do? (Ie. some sort of requested feature list. :-) ) Also, will
FAI work for sid at all? (I can only find references to woody in the
documentation.)

 I think d-i automated installs and FAI will both have their place, going
 forward, for different reasons. d-i may be good for a bare-metal recovery of
 an existing installation, whereas FAI is probably going to be better at
 deploying new installations on inconsistent hardware (I use it to run up
 infrastructure servers, on random hardware).

Hm? Why shouldn't d-i be able to handle inconsistent hardware? I mean, we
have discover and autopartkit; what else should touch hardware too much?

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Re: Changelogs, the 2nd

2004-01-30 Thread cobaco
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On 2004-01-29 22:48, Nikolai Prokoschenko wrote:
 Hello!
 partman-ext3 (6) UNRELEASED; urgency=low

   * New unreleased version.
   * Translations
 - Bart Cornelis
   - Updated Dutch (nl.po) translation
   * Claus Hindsgaul
 - Updated Danish translation (da.po)
   * Nikolai Prokoschenko
 - Updated russian translation (ru.po)

BTW didn't we agree to format the changelog entries as 
  * Translations
 - translator 1
   message
 - translator 2 
   message
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Re: Changelogs, the 2nd

2004-01-30 Thread Nikolai Prokoschenko
On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 04:32:49PM +0100, cobaco wrote:

* New unreleased version.
* Translations
  - Bart Cornelis
- Updated Dutch (nl.po) translation
* Claus Hindsgaul
  - Updated Danish translation (da.po)
* Nikolai Prokoschenko
  - Updated russian translation (ru.po)
 
 BTW didn't we agree to format the changelog entries as 
   * Translations
  - translator 1
message
  - translator 2 
message

I don't know if there has been an agreement, but the other translators
do not insert sub-items, but new items instead. So I just added my
entry at the end.

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Re: Changelogs, the 2nd

2004-01-30 Thread Anton Zinoviev
On 29.I.2004 at 22:48 Nikolai Prokoschenko wrote:
 
 partman-ext3 (6) UNRELEASED; urgency=low
 
   * New unreleased version.
   * Translations
 - Bart Cornelis
   - Updated Dutch (nl.po) translation
   * Claus Hindsgaul
 - Updated Danish translation (da.po)
   * Nikolai Prokoschenko
 - Updated russian translation (ru.po)

* New unreleased version. can be safely removed by the first
translator.  I just want to be sure that the translators do not add
their changelog-items to version that is already uploaded to the
archive.

 how you'd like this automatic-translations-changelogs-update feature
 to work, I'll try my best to implement it!

For me everything we agree on is ok.

Anton


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Cellphones safe - at least in short term

2004-01-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NewScientist.com - NEWSFLASH


Cellphones safe - at least in short term

The first nationwide analysis shows no increased risk of brain
cancer for at least 10 years, and any long term risks should also be
known soon. The new work is the first to be published from the huge
INTERPHONE study, organised by the International Agency for Research
on Cancer. It involves 13 different countries and aims answer
definitively the question of whether mobile phone use is safe.

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Bug#226200: CP1251 should be added

2004-01-30 Thread Ognyan Kulev
Hi,

bg_BG uses CP1251 encoding and it suffers the same problem -- unreadable 
glyphs when Bulgarian translation is selected.  So CP1251 should be 
added to the switch along with KOI-R and others.

Regards,
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Bug#230396: installation-reports bug report

2004-01-30 Thread Chris Leigh
Package: installation-reports

Debian-installer-version: Beta 2.  Downloaded Jan 30 2004 from 
http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/

uname -a: Linux (none) 2.4.22-1-386 #9 Sat Oct 4 14:30:39 EST 2003 i486 
unknown

Date: Friday, January 30, 2004.  10:00AM

Method: Booted off floppies.  Used the root, boot, and net.

Machine: IBM Valuepoint 100DX4
Processor: 486 DX4/100
Memory: 24MB
Root Device: 504MB IDE /dev/hda
Root Size/partition table: Feel free to paste the full partition
  table, with notes on which partitions are mounted where.
Output of lspci:
Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [E]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [ ]
Load installer modules: [E]
Detect hard drives: [ ]
Partition hard drives:  [ ]
Create file systems:[ ]
Mount partitions:   [ ]
Install base system:[ ]
Install boot loader:[ ]
Reboot: [ ]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it
Comments/Problems:

Creating the floppies:

bootfloppy-image.img (boot)
floppy-image.img (root)
net_drivers-image.img (net drivers)
The root floppy has what I consider a vague name.
Also, the rawrite2.exe tool wouldn't read the image files from the hard 
drive because the filename was too long.  I had to rename and shorten 
the image file names before I could create them under windows.  Maybe 
this is more of a problem with rawrite, but I digress.

Configure Network HW:

I have a D-Link DE-220 ISA Card. The address/irq is 0x300, 11.
The detection failed (its not a PNP card).
Choosing the module 'ne' also failed, because it did not prompt me to 
enter the io port and irq.

I was able to get the card to work by using insmod with the correct 
io/irq from the command line.

Load installer modules:

Some of the mirrors listed (I tried 2 in canada) don't have the 
installer files.  (At least thats whats returned in the error message)

While downloading files from the mirror, suddenly the installer quits to 
a console screen with the message Terminated repeating over and again 
once every few seconds.

This is as far as I got.  I tried again a few times but invariably I end 
up with this Terminated stuff.  Looks like I'm running out of memory.
If I cat meminfo again and again between terminated messages, I can 
see the last free bit of memory get sucked up and then- POOF: Terminated.

Hope this report helps.  Any chance on getting the new installer to fit 
inside 24MB of RAM?

Chris Leigh
Assistant LAN Admin
Faculty of Architecture
University of Manitoba


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Bug#230398: installation-reports

2004-01-30 Thread George Kumengi

Package: installation-reports
Debian-installer-version: Daily Build (testing) netinst 1/29/2004
http://people.debian.org/cdimage/testing/netinst/i386/daily/sarge-i386-netinst.iso
uname -a: Linux debian 2.4.22-1-386 #9 Sat Oct 4 14:30:39 EST 2003 i686
unknown
Date: 1/30/2004 11:30 AM EST
Method: I booted off the netinst CD. I typed net at the
lilo prompt. I installed from grc.nasa.gov domain through a
firewall.
Machine: Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe Motherboard. (Nforce 2 chipset)
Processor: AMD Athlon (Barton Core) XP 2600+
Memory: 512 MB
Root Device: IDE
Root Size/partition table:
28 GB ext3
mounted to /
150MB ext3
mounted to /boot
1GBswap
Output of lspci: none
Base System Installation Checklist:
Initial boot worked: [O]
Configure network HW: [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect
CD:
[O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives: [O]
Create file systems: [O]
Mount partitions: [O]
Install base system: [E]
Install boot loader: [ ]
Reboot:
[ ]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try
it
Comments/Problems:
Everything works fine until it comes time to download. This is the
error:
Debootstrap Error
Failed getting Release file
http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian//dists/unstable/Release.
I cannot get past this point.  


PT translation - please commit

2004-01-30 Thread Miguel Figueiredo
Hello guys,

 here goes debian-installer/tools/countrychooser/debian/po/pt.po

please commit.

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Re: Changelogs, the 2nd

2004-01-30 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Nikolai Prokoschenko ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 I don't know if there has been an agreement, but the other translators
 do not insert sub-items, but new items instead. So I just added my
 entry at the end.

Let's say there is a consensus

I propose that any of us who finds such cluttery changelogs takes the
time for re-arranging them in the new way...just as Bart described.



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Re: PT translation - please commit

2004-01-30 Thread Miguel Figueiredo
Miguel Figueiredo wrote:
Hello guys,

 here goes debian-installer/tools/countrychooser/debian/po/pt.po

please commit.

i know i forgot (again) the attachment.
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#
#Translators, if you are not familiar with the PO format, gettext
#documentation is worth reading, especially sections dedicated to
#this format, e.g. by running:
# info -n '(gettext)PO Files'
# info -n '(gettext)Header Entry'
#
#Some information specific to po-debconf are available at
#/usr/share/doc/po-debconf/README-trans
# or http://www.debian.org/intl/l10n/po-debconf/README-trans
#
#Developers do not need to manually edit POT or PO files.
#
msgid 
msgstr 
Project-Id-Version: countrychooser 0.003\n
Report-Msgid-Bugs-To: \n
POT-Creation-Date: 2004-01-21 23:41+0100\n
PO-Revision-Date: 2004-01-27 21:30+\n
Last-Translator: Miguel Figueiredo [EMAIL PROTECTED]\n
Language-Team: Portuguese [EMAIL PROTECTED]\n
MIME-Version: 1.0\n
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8\n
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit\n

#. Type: select
#. Description
#. Notes to translators
#. The country names are not part of this package
#.
#. If the country list is not translated in your language, please
#. have a look at the iso-codes package
#. You need to create or update the iso-3166/xx.po file of
#. this package.
#.
#. Then file a wishlist bug report to iso-codes with tags patch
#. and l10n
#.
#.
#. This file MUST use UTF-8 encoding as it is merged with some
#. other translations which use UTF-8
#: ../templates-in:18
msgid Choose a country:
msgstr Escolha um país:

#. Type: select
#. Description
#: ../templates-in:18
msgid 
The country choice influences the default locale, the location and the 
keyboard layout.
msgstr 
A escolha do país influencia o locale por defeito, a localização e a 
disposição do teclado.

#. Type: string
#. Description
#: ../templates-in:32
msgid Choose country
msgstr Escolher país

#: ../countrylist:15
msgid North America
msgstr América do Norte

#: ../countrylist:16
msgid Central America
msgstr América Central

#: ../countrylist:17
msgid South America
msgstr América do Sul

#: ../countrylist:18
msgid Caribbean
msgstr Caraíbas

#: ../countrylist:19
msgid Europe
msgstr Europa

#: ../countrylist:20
msgid Asia
msgstr Ásia

#: ../countrylist:21
msgid Africa
msgstr África

#: ../countrylist:22
msgid Indian Ocean
msgstr Oceano Índico

#: ../countrylist:23
msgid Oceania
msgstr Oceânia

#: ../countrylist:24
msgid Antarctica
msgstr Antárctida

#: ../countrylist:25
msgid other
msgstr outros


Re: Changelogs, the 2nd

2004-01-30 Thread Denis Barbier
On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 07:20:18PM +0200, Anton Zinoviev wrote:
 On 29.I.2004 at 22:48 Nikolai Prokoschenko wrote:
  
  partman-ext3 (6) UNRELEASED; urgency=low
  
* New unreleased version.
* Translations
  - Bart Cornelis
- Updated Dutch (nl.po) translation
* Claus Hindsgaul
  - Updated Danish translation (da.po)
* Nikolai Prokoschenko
  - Updated russian translation (ru.po)
 
 * New unreleased version. can be safely removed by the first
 translator.  I just want to be sure that the translators do not add
 their changelog-items to version that is already uploaded to the
 archive.

No, UNRELEASED on the first line already plays this role, no need
to duplicate it.

Denis


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Re: D-I can't find my IDE-controller (was: Intall Failure - Partitioning fails)

2004-01-30 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-01-30 14:02]:
  Hmm, interesting.  It recognized it just fine when I did an install a
  few months ago.  But perhaps the device should be added to discover?
  (10b95229 - alim15x3).
  
  Can you switch to F2 and type modprobe alim15x3.  Does that help?
 
 # modprobe alim15x3
 insmod: alim15x3.o: no module by that name found
 modprobe: failed to load module alim15x3

Uh, afaict this module should be in ide-modules.
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Unable to install/boot debian from PowerMac G3(beige desktop) hard drive

2004-01-30 Thread JT
Hello compatriots/teachers,

I'm sorry to burden the list with this question since I'm fairly sure it's
been asked before(judging from Google hits on the subject).  But after 48
hours of trying, retrying and retrying again, I think I've reached the end
of my ability to self help.

I'm trying to install debian on a standard Apple PowerMac G3 desktop(233MHz,
internal 4G ATA drive) and I've successfully gotten a network install to the
point where it's time to make the hard drive bootable.  And this is where
I've failed again and again.

Yes, I know that the Open Firmware with this Mac is supposed to be buggy and
requires a patch.  I BELIEVE I added this patch with utility from Mac OS 8.5
before blowing it(OS 8.5) away in the course of partitioning the drive.  I
don't intend to dual boot and am seeking to make this a Linux-only box.

I can get to the OF prompt using the OPT-CMD-O-F keystroke.  As it stands
now,
- Open Firmware is at version 2.0f1
- Linux boot is at /boot/vmlinux-2.2.20-pmac
- /boot/first.b has been replaced with patched version from
http://www.cpu.lu/~mlan/ftp/quik-first.b-g3 according to installation
instructions
- quik.conf checks out correctly with correct fields and values(fyi
root=/dev/hda2)

Not that the last matters, since I can't even boot from OF, right?  Yeah, I
get the standard CAN'T OPEN whatever boot-device value I've had.  And I've
put in MANY, as I've trolled across the Net for possible correct values.
Per a suggestion at http://mfdh.ca/apple/debian_on_oldworld_mac.html, I used
the ofpath command in ash to try and determine the correct absolute hardware
path.  Typing, ofpath /dev/hda2 returned
/pci/mac-io/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:2.  Using that value or its alias in 
OF
boot-device or boot-file fields still leaves me with CAN'T OPEN...


SO, besides the obvious question -- Please, all of you successful G3 debian
users how do I do this?! perhaps some areas of troubleshooting would be to
confirm that early OF patch?  I.e., be sure that my OF has been correctly
updated.  How do I check for this?

Pardon the long mail.  Besides my gratitude, I'd be happy to take a couple
helpful souls to my favorite Japanese noodle place the next time you're near
Golden Gate Park in San Francisco, CA!  Guidance is truly appreciated.


-T
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interactive knowledge in postindustrial era

2004-01-30 Thread eliovich



Global Brain Ware can be considered as a part 
of the subject. Can You evaluate possibilities of cooperation?
 With best regards
Professor Eliovich DSc 
PhD


Re: I'm interested in helping with the installer help text

2004-01-30 Thread Joey Hess
John Buttery wrote:
   By the way; is there an automatic partitioning option in the new
 installer?

There is not one, but two, we're working to make this more visible.

 The two biggest stumbling blocks the people I help with
 installs seem to have are partitioning and configuring the MTA.  Has it
 been considered to have the option of automatic partitioning and/or
 installing a really simple just get the mail off my system MTA like
 ssmtp that doesn't need any real configuration besides What is your
 SMTP server, ask your ISP?  Not saying exim isn't a great piece of
 software, just that it may be overkill for most users who just need
 local delivery between system accounts, and offloading outbound mail to
 a smarthost...

Have you seen the new exim configuration questions in sarge? They're
fairly simple and clear now, and it comes down to I think two questions
for basic setups like that one.

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Re: New iso-3166-udeb package along with countrychooser

2004-01-30 Thread Joey Hess
Christian Perrier wrote:
 Quoting Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 
   What is the clean way to do this?
  
  Wait until iso-3166-udeb enters the archive, and then update the
  build/pkg-lists that include countrychooser to also include it.
 
 OK.As countrychooser postinst will then need a file provided by
 this package, should countrychooser Pre-Depends on it?

Yes, that change should be made at about the same time or after
iso-3166-udeb entering the archive. 

The goal is to keep the installer always working, with as small a window
as possible where it will not build correctly.

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Re: apt configuration issues

2004-01-30 Thread Joey Hess
Allen Unueco wrote:
 I was testing debian-installer beta2 i386, the 100MB CD image version from:
 
 http://people.debian.org/cdimage/testing/netinst/i386/beta2/sarge-i386-netinst.iso
 
 I noticed some strange behavior during apt configuration. I would select 
 'http' and then 'ftp.us.debian.org'. The screen goes black, it looked 
 like 'apt-get update' was successful, and then comes back to the  apt 
 config screen. I'm slightly confused at this point, was there an error? 
 are we done? What do I do next? I did this over and over.

This is a known bug in beta 2 of the installer, fixed in our cvs tree.
Just hit cancel to break out of that loop.

 Also I wasn't provided with an option to select non-US, contrib, or 
 non-free.

non-US is a dumping ground for software that should have been moved to
the main archive over the past two years.

contrib is largely useless without non-free.

non-free is not part of Debian, and not needed by the majority of users
for a useful system.

Therefore none of them will be set up or prompted for by the sarge
installer. If you need them you can edit the sources.list file manually;
the installer has an option to let you do so.

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Re: Install Report - Failure to detect SCSI Adaptec AIC-7892a

2004-01-30 Thread Joey Hess
Erik Dykema wrote:
   I have been testing the daily builds almost every weekday since at 
 least december, so far progress has continued to the point where i can 
 get almost all the way through the installer :)
   However in the past few days the installer has failed to detect the 
 scsi card in my machine, which seems to be a big step backwards.
   It's a Dell PowerApp Web 100 1U server.  The installer stops on the 
 'Partition Hard Disk' step, and won't go any further. I have checked 
 dmesg and the usual lines where it picks up on the scsi controller are 
 gone.

Which set of daily builds are you using? There are two sets of CD
images, as explained on our website, the set that uses the version of
d-i in testing, and the set that uses the version of d-i in unstable.
The former is liklely to be broken right now, but I hope that the latter
will work. Make sure the url you download the CD image from has
sid_d-i in it

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Re: d-i first-stage configuration

2004-01-30 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 05:23:19PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
 Language:   English
 Country:United States
 Keyboard:   us
 Network:eth0 using DHCP
 Hostname:   debian
 Mirror: http.us.debian.org
 Mode:   novice
 
 You really think that will come across as a big blob of data, rather than
 a list of things that can be changed?

A big blob of data is a bit too much, I'll admit that.

However, assume the user knows nothing about what the heck eth0, DHCP,
hostname or even mirror is; then I'd believe it's confusing. :-)
Of course, if we could change to first network card, automatically,
computer name and download site or whatever, it would probably be
slightly easier. (I'm not really sure if those are sane terms or not, but
you'd probably get the idea.)

The question is, do we really need all of those? Even if the user har
specified novice first? What will it buy us over the current rather
wizard-based (if I can say that word without people throwing up ;-) )
approach?

Of course, I still think we shouldn't do too ugly hacks close to release. Of
course, nobody knows when release is supposed to be...

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RE: apt configuration issues

2004-01-30 Thread Tony Pagliocco
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-Original Message-
From: Joey Hess [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 1:46 PM
To: Allen Unueco
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: apt configuration issues

Allen Unueco wrote:
 I was testing debian-installer beta2 i386, the 100MB CD image version
from:
 

http://people.debian.org/cdimage/testing/netinst/i386/beta2/sarge-i386-n
etinst.iso
 
 I noticed some strange behavior during apt configuration. I would
select 
 'http' and then 'ftp.us.debian.org'. The screen goes black, it looked 
 like 'apt-get update' was successful, and then comes back to the  apt 
 config screen. I'm slightly confused at this point, was there an
error? 
 are we done? What do I do next? I did this over and over.

This is a known bug in beta 2 of the installer, fixed in our cvs tree.
Just hit cancel to break out of that loop.

 Also I wasn't provided with an option to select non-US, contrib, or 
 non-free.

non-US is a dumping ground for software that should have been moved to
the main archive over the past two years.

contrib is largely useless without non-free.

non-free is not part of Debian, and not needed by the majority of users
for a useful system.

Therefore none of them will be set up or prompted for by the sarge
installer. If you need them you can edit the sources.list file manually;
the installer has an option to let you do so.

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Attachment Rejected hi

2004-01-30 Thread SysAdmin
The attachment you sent was rejected.  Please send as a zip file.


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Bug#230396: installation-reports bug report

2004-01-30 Thread Erich Waelde

Chris Leigh writes:
  Package: installation-reports
  
snip
  I have a D-Link DE-220 ISA Card. The address/irq is 0x300, 11.
  The detection failed (its not a PNP card).
  Choosing the module 'ne' also failed, because it did not prompt me to 
  enter the io port and irq.

ISA detection is shaky. Your chance is to add DEBCONF_PRIORITY=low to the
boot prompt. Then you have a chance to enter irq io and the like. However,
you are then asked a lot more questions. (This is also known as booting
expert at least on the CDs, I'm not sure, whether this works on the boot
floppies as well.

  I was able to get the card to work by using insmod with the correct 
  io/irq from the command line.
well then.



  Hope this report helps.  Any chance on getting the new installer to fit 
  inside 24MB of RAM?

The installer uses approx. 32 MB, installs with that much RAM have been
reported to work. So the first answer is no. HOWEVER, there is a chance if
you are able to create and activate a swap partition before the modules are
downloaded, thus making more room available for the ram disk.

Search the archive at http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot, there was some
discussion about this this or last month.


Thanks for your report, and hope this helps.

Cheers,
Erich


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Re: d-i first-stage configuration

2004-01-30 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Steinar H. Gunderson wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 05:23:19PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
  Language:   English
  Country:United States
  Keyboard:   us
  Network:eth0 using DHCP
  Hostname:   debian
  Mirror: http.us.debian.org
  Mode:   novice
  
  You really think that will come across as a big blob of data, rather than
  a list of things that can be changed?
 
 A big blob of data is a bit too much, I'll admit that.
 
 However, assume the user knows nothing about what the heck eth0, DHCP,
 hostname or even mirror is; then I'd believe it's confusing. :-)
 Of course, if we could change to first network card, automatically,
 computer name and download site or whatever, it would probably be
 slightly easier. (I'm not really sure if those are sane terms or not, but
 you'd probably get the idea.)
 
 The question is, do we really need all of those? Even if the user har
 specified novice first? What will it buy us over the current rather
 wizard-based (if I can say that word without people throwing up ;-) )
 approach?

Maybe it should be:

Language:   English
Mode:   novice
Hostname:   debian

and:

Language:   English
Mode:   expert
Country:United States
Keyboard:   us
Network:eth0 using DHCP
Hostname:   debian
Mirror: http.us.debian.org

that is, novice mode hides the Entries it has sane defaults for.


Thiemo


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Re: d-i first-stage configuration

2004-01-30 Thread Simon Hürlimann
Am Friday 30 January 2004 21:57 schrieb Steinar H. Gunderson:
 On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 05:23:19PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
  Language:   English
  Country:United States
  Keyboard:   us
  Network:eth0 using DHCP
  Hostname:   debian
  Mirror: http.us.debian.org
  Mode:   novice
 
  You really think that will come across as a big blob of data, rather than
  a list of things that can be changed?
It is defenitely a very nice thing!

 A big blob of data is a bit too much, I'll admit that.

 However, assume the user knows nothing about what the heck eth0, DHCP,
 hostname or even mirror is; then I'd believe it's confusing. :-)
 Of course, if we could change to first network card, automatically,
 computer name and download site or whatever, it would probably be
 slightly easier. (I'm not really sure if those are sane terms or not, but
 you'd probably get the idea.)
I think this terms are better than the original. I think the keybord item 
should use better names for the keyboard type too. us is not that 
descriptive to novice users.

 The question is, do we really need all of those? Even if the user har
 specified novice first? What will it buy us over the current rather
 wizard-based (if I can say that word without people throwing up ;-) )
 approach?
With the proposed term changes, I think most people understand this overview. 
I'm not a novice, but I guess this would fit my needs normaly. So it seems to 
be quite a balanced selection of items.

It's just a little easier to click install with these settings once than 
having to ask one question after the other. If a novice doesn't understand an 
item, it doesn't feel that bad to go further than if he's presented a whole 
wizard-step he can't answer. So the defaults (which should fit novice's 
needs) are more easily accepted without asking oneself: $*%§! I don't 
understand a word, but I sure have to change something

 Of course, I still think we shouldn't do too ugly hacks close to release.
 Of course, nobody knows when release is supposed to be...
I'm following debian-boot for quite some time, and this is one of the most 
userfriendly proposal (maybe besides partman) I saw up to now! I think this 
would realy ease the pain of installing debian. So... please do it now

Simon
who is impressed by the progress of d-i in the last few months


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Re: PT translation - please commit

2004-01-30 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Miguel Figueiredo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 Miguel Figueiredo wrote:
 Hello guys,
 
  here goes debian-installer/tools/countrychooser/debian/po/pt.po
 
 please commit.
 
 
 i know i forgot (again) the attachment.

Commited


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Re: d-i first-stage configuration

2004-01-30 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Simon Hürlimann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 I think this terms are better than the original. I think the keybord item 
 should use better names for the keyboard type too. us is not that 
 descriptive to novice users.

These terms are translatable. For instance, in french, we translated
this to Etats-Unis d'Amérique (because I personnaly don't like using
Etats-Unis==United States alone:-)))

They may even be translated in english if needed.


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sjogren dailys broken again..

2004-01-30 Thread Joey Hess
A user on irc reported that this initrd is lacking any kernel modules at
all.

http://people.debian.org/~sjogren/d-i/images/daily/netboot-initrd.gz 

If I build it myself, I get a full complement of 2.4.24 kernel modules..

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PT translation - please commit

2004-01-30 Thread Miguel Figueiredo
Here goes tasksel-1.43/po/pt.po please commit.

msgfmt -o /dev/null --statistics pt.po
39 translated messages.
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Bug#223344: debconf-set and debconf-get clear the screen

2004-01-30 Thread Denis Barbier
On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 10:21:11PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
 Package: cdebconf
 Severity: normal
 
 For some reason cdebconf starts its frontend when the debconf-set and
 debconf-get commands are run. Enough to clear the screen anyway. Of
 course debconf-get also outputs its result to stderr. This could be
 better.

I just committed a change in cdebconf/src/frontend.c which might help
there.  It adds a new 'none' frontend so that debconf-set and debconf-get
can be replaced by commands like
   echo get foo/bar |\
   DEBIAN_FRONTEND=none debconf-communicate |\
   sed -e 's/^[0-9]* //'

If this works, a more user-friendly approach is to have debconf-set and
debconf-get be symlinks to debconf-communicate, and add few lines to
behave in a different manner according to executable name.

Denis


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Bug#152152: STOCK MARKET BULLETIN: 7-Eleven Stores looking to add QENC bottled water

2004-01-30 Thread Kurtis Burnette
OTC FIRST ALERT - 2003 Third Quarter Net Income Rose 76.8%

Symbol: QENC
Market: OTC
Sector: High End Natural Bottle Water

BREAKING NEWS: JERICHO, N.Y., Jan 28, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Queench, Inc
(OTC: QENC) In Negotiations with 7-Eleven Stores for Nationwide Launch of 
Queench Products - 7-Eleven is looking forward to adding to their inventory
various sizes of Queench water products. 7-Eleven has more than 4000 stores
nationwide. Each store consistently serves on average 1300 customers in a 
24-hour period, giving Queench products added exposure within their market
share.


BREAKING NEWS: JERICHO, NEW YORK, Jan 20, 2004 (CCNMatthews) -- Queench, Inc.
(OTC: QENC) Board of Directors include Spencer Gillette, Chairperson - Vice
President of Blimpie Corporation, Bill Ford - Owner of Ford Modeling Agency,
La-Van Hawkins - President of Hawkins Food Group, Curtis Martin - New York
Jets All-Star Running Back...

BREAKING NEWS:  Jan 8, 2004 -- QENC is now a full-time supplier of bottled
water to the military.  QENC today announced that it has completed inspection
and approval of its water bottling plants by the U.S. Army Veterinary Command
(VETCOM).

BREAKING NEWS:  Nov. 13, 2003 -- QENC 2003 Third Quarter Net Income Rose 76.8%.
The Third Quarter Net Income ending 9/30/03 increased 76.8% from the Q2, and a
987% increase year-to-year. Net income for the 9 months ending 9/30/03
resulted in a 1274% year-to-year increase.



Jim Furey of Lehman Brothers says, You want to own small stocks versus large
stocks when economic growth is accelerating, which is exactly the period we're
in now.

QENC is a small company perfectly poised to harness the $7.6 billion bottle
water segment with a high quality premium brand priced competitively.

The bottled water segment is the fastest growing of the beverage market.  Of
the $100 billion beverage industry, bottled water is nearly $7.6 billion
annually, and forecasted to grow over 50% over the next 5 years.

In this bottled water segment, QENC has the best of both worlds, where unlike
Aquafina and Dasani, QENC is high-end natural spring water, and unlike Evian,
QENC is competitively priced.  QENC's target consumer is health and beauty
conscious including Gen Y, Gen X, and Baby Boomers who live a metropolitan
lifestyle.

QENC currently offers two fantastic product lines: Queech Natural Spring Water
and the Queech Flavored Water Beverages, which are vitamin-enhanced and come
in five cool new flavors: Coconut, O' Ginger, Red Raspberry, Pineapple and
Lemon.


DISTRIBUTION AND MARKETING

Jan 28, 2004 QENC announced today that 7-Eleven is looking forward to adding
to their inventory various sizes of Queench water products. 7-Eleven has more
than 4000 stores nationwide. Each store consistently serves on average 1300
customers in a 24-hour period, giving Queench products added exposure within
their market share.

QENC bottled water is nationally distributed through SYSCO FOODS.  SYSCO Foods
is the largest food distributor operating 145 locations and has sales and 
service relationships with 420,000 customers including restaurants, healthcare
and educational facilities, lodging establishments, and more.  This
relationship provides key access to new markets with low capital requirements.

Naomi Campbell's NC CONNECT integrated marketing agency, has signed to help
QENC reach national and global consumers by providing marketing and
advertising that will position QENC as a major lifestyle brand in the bottled
water market.

01/08/04: QENC completed inspection and approval of its plants by the US Army
Veterinary Command (VETCOM).  QENC's been supplying the military contract in
the South and Florida and the Army has been increasing orders on a monthly
basis, which will result in higher Q1 2004 revenue.

12/03/03: QENC's strategically placing new eye-catching vending machines in
locations on college campuses, retail, entertainment and sports venues and
convenience stores.  500 vending machines installed in initial rollout in 2003
with approx. 2,500 vending machines to be installed in a 3-year period. The
beverage-vending channel is typically highly profitable.



FINAL CONSIDERATIONS

7-Eleven is looking forward to adding to their inventory various sizes of 
Queench water products.

12/03/03: QENC is currently shipping over 54,000 cases of bottled water
quarterly, with a year-to-date quarterly revenue growth rate of 19.7%

QENC's NET INCOME for the Q3 ending 9/30/03 increased 76.8% from the Q2, and a
987% increase year-to-year. Net income for the 9 months ending 9/30/03
resulted in a 1274% year-to-year increase.

QENC's SALES for the Q2 of 2002 increased 77% to $848,269 year-to-year, from
$478,052, as a result of rolling out new product lines and implementing a 
channel development strategy.

QENC's high quality premium water is priced very competitive, they have an
excellent distribution channel with SYSCO and strategically placed vending
machines, and a marketing campaign designed to focus on 

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Re: d-i first-stage configuration

2004-01-30 Thread Simon Hrlimann
Am Friday 30 January 2004 22:35 schrieb Christian Perrier:
 Quoting Simon Hürlimann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
  I think this terms are better than the original. I think the keybord item
  should use better names for the keyboard type too. us is not that
  descriptive to novice users.

 These terms are translatable.
Where are the files to translate? If german translation isn't there yet, I'll 
do it.

 For instance, in french, we translated
 this to Etats-Unis d'Amérique (because I personnaly don't like using
 Etats-Unis==United States alone:-)))
Just to be prepared for Etats-Unis d'Europe :-) Then maybe even containing 
Switzerland...

Simon


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categorising installation reports

2004-01-30 Thread Joey Hess
We have over 150 uncategorised installation reports now, and until
they're processed, we can't really know what the worst problems are in
beta 2. So I declare the next week to be installation report processing
week. If you have some spare time anytime this week, process a couple of
installation reports. Goal for next Friday is to process all
installation reports reported in the past 30 days. If ten of us do five
reports each this week, we should get within sight of this goal.

So far only a few people have been working on this, so to help others
get up to speed on it, I have written a document explaining the process,
and the information you need to know to effectively process an
installation report. I've attached it to this mail and it's also
doc/installation-reports.txt in CVS. After it's been commented on here,
I plan to post a larger call for help to debian-devel-announce,
including a link to the document (as well as the rest of our TODO list
and so on).

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bug in ethdetect.sh ?

2004-01-30 Thread sylvain ferriol
hello
could you add this to ethdetect.sh?
Index: ethdetect.sh
===
RCS file: /cvsroot/d-i/debian-installer/tools/ddetect/ethdetect.sh,v
retrieving revision 1.15
diff -r1.15 ethdetect.sh
69a70,71

 continue
this avoid to have all the time the 'ethdetect/cannot_find' window after 
selecting a net module in the modules list

thanks
sylvain
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Bug#230450: FWD: Slight funny with debian installer

2004-01-30 Thread Joey Hess
Package: installation-reports
 
 The following installation report was posted to debian-boot, and,
 according to my records, never followed up on. I am putting it in the
 BTS so it will not be lost.

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From: Alan Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 17:25:45 +
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Slight funny with debian installer

Hi all,  I am not subscribed to the list so please copy on any replies (or 
wait until I read the archive:-(  )

used sarge-i386-netinst-20040122 written to CD and booted from CD.

Not sure if what I describe below is a bug, or intentional (to prevent 
overwriting of existing installations).

I was re-installing debian from scratch after trying gentoo.  As a result, my 
hard drives were already fully partitioned and with valid filesystems on 
them.  They were

hda1 32MB ext2 - (planning to overwrite for new /boot)
hda2 6.7GB fat32 (win xp partition)
hda3 4.3GB reiserfs (was going to overwrite this as new root)
hda4  30GB LVM partition

hdb1 2GB swap
hdb2 14GB reiserfs (used for backup).

I reached the stage were it asks me partition the drive, and I declined - so 
it moved on to initialising and defining the filesystems and mount points.

HOWEVER, the list I was presented with only included the hdb drive - none of 
the partitions on hda showed up at all. (There were of course presented in 
the installer style rather than as /dev/hdb1 etc)

The way I found to get the full list, was to manually enter a shell and use 
cfdisk to remove and recreate the hda1 and hda3 partitions 

Whilst I am pointing out issues during install, I would just like to raise one 
other slight problem I had.  This is after being used to the previous 
installers (from woody)

I have an LVM partion in which there are logical volumes containing my home 
directory and then related subdirectories.  During installation I was asked 
to create a non root user, so obviously created me.  I had been expecting a 
point before where I was asked to load any modules I wanted (as previous 
installs) so I could have loaded lvm and then perhaps have mounted my home 
directory in preparation for that point.  (Of course it was trivial to delete 
the two .bash files that it had created and tidy up afterwards )




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Bug#230442: FWD: Bug#228271: INSTALL REPORT - d-i Beta 2: Broken stable installation over net

2004-01-30 Thread Joey Hess
Package: installation-reports
 
 The following installation report was posted to debian-boot, and,
 according to my records, never followed up on. I am putting it in the
 BTS so it will not be lost.

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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 16:42:41 -0500
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Bug#228271: INSTALL REPORT - d-i Beta 2:  Broken stable installation over 
net
Reply-To: K. Griffis [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Package: installation-reports
Version: beta2

INSTALL REPORT

Debian-installer-version: Sarge Beta 2 100MB image from Debian  website 
(sarge-i386-netinst.iso)
uname -a: n/a
Date: 1/17/2004
Method: Installed using net boot option from CD-ROM; attempting a  
stable install

Machine: Hand-built AMD-based machine
Processor: AMD Duron 950
Memory:  128MB
Root Device: Maxtor 91190D7 IDE drive, 11901MB
Root Size/partition table: n/a
Output of lspci:  n/a

Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[0]
Configure network HW:   [0]
Config network: [0]
Detect CD:  [ ]
Load installer modules: [E]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [ ]
Create file systems:[ ]
Mount partitions:   [ ]
Install base system:[ ]
Install boot loader:[ ]
Reboot: [ ]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems:

I am having problems getting the stable distro to install.  My network card 
is detected and works fine (gets a lease from DHCP, etc.).  I can select a 
Debian mirror with no problem.  I also proceed to select stable for 
distribution type; however, I get an error saying that the installer can't 
get installation files from the mirror.  However, if I select testing or 
unstable the installer proceeds to the disk partitioning phase without a 
problem.

It would appear that stable installation has been disabled in the Beta 2 
installer.  Is this the case, or is there an actual bug involved?

Otherwise, the Beta 2 installer is *perfect* on my machine.  You guys are 
doing a *fantastic* job.  Keep plugging away, this installer is probably 
ready for prime time.  :-D

Regards,

Kevin Griffis





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Bug#230437: FWD: Install Report - Failed network install

2004-01-30 Thread Joey Hess
Package: installation-reports
 
 The following installation report was posted to debian-boot, and,
 according to my records, never followed up on. I am putting it in the
 BTS so it will not be lost.

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From: Erik Dykema [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 12:06:59 -0500
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Install Report - Failed network install

Hi-
This is my first install report, apoligies for errors, welcome 
correction.

thanks,
Erik Dykema

INSTALL REPORT

Debian-installer-version: Jan 08 Daily, from 
http://people.debian.org/~sjogren/d-i/images/daily/

uname -a: Linux 2.4.22-1-386 #9 Sat Oct 4 14:30.39 i686 unknown
Date: Jan 8, 2004, 11:00am
Method: Network install via pxelinux: pxelinux.cfg/default:

LABEL sarge
KERNEL vmlinuz
APPEND load initrd=netboot-initrd.gz devfs=mount ramdisk_size=8192 
root=/dev/ram0 console=tty0

Machine: Hp DL360 G3
Processor: 1 Intel Xeon
Memory: 1024 mb
Root Device: Smart Array 5i/532
Root Size/partition table:
disk1 ext2  34 gigs
disk5 linux swap 1 gig
Output of lspci:
lspci not found

Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [ ]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[E]
Mount partitions:   [E]
Install base system:[E]
Install boot loader:[ ]
Reboot: [ ]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Note - This machine has two physical hard drives configured into a raid 
0+1 array (in hardware), which the installer sees as one drive of half 
the size (as it should).  Not sure if this has anything to do with 
partitioning problems or not.

Comments/Problems:

1.  The installer first went to cfdisk.  I created the partitions (1 
ext3 (bootable), 1 swap), wrote the table, and selected finish.  Then it 
went to the next screen where I am supposed to configure/mount the 
partitions, and instead of the list of my partitions (should have been 
2), the list has 6 or 8 entries, most consisting of just one letter, 
like this:
N
N
O
O
P
P
Q
Q
913 MiB

Anytime I select one of these list entries and hit enter  it boots me 
out to the menu screen.  At the menu screen, I am able to select 
auto-partition, which works fine and creates almost the same setup that 
I would have created anyway, so this is not a fatal problem.

2.  On attempting to install the base system, it says that it is 
retrieving package files, then finding package sizes, then retrieving 
packages, validating, extracting packages.  Then the screen goes blue 
for a bit with no menu, and comes back red saying: debootstrap exited 
with an error, return value 1, check the log.  I hit continue and the 
next screen says base system failed to install into /target/, check the 
two debootstrap logs.  I check the two logs: debootstrap.err.log is 0 
bytes, and debootstrap.log has one line:
ln: mawk : no such file or directory
Hitting continue kicks me back out to the menu.  I can attempt to 
install the kernel but it just tries to do the base system again and fails.

When i look in /target/ there is some stuff in there, so it doesn't seem 
like a disk / driver problem.

Erik


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Bug#230435: FWD: installation report

2004-01-30 Thread Joey Hess
Package: installation-reports

The following installation report was posted to debian-boot, and,
according to my records, never followed up on. I am putting it in the
BTS so it will not be lost.

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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 10:35:06 -0500 (EST)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: installation report

Package: installation-reports

INSTALL REPORT

Debian-installer-version: http://gluck.debian.org/~sjogren/d-i/images/2003-12-15/
Date: Mon Dec 15 09:39:46 EST 2003
Method: Floppy images (bootfloppy-image.img, floppy-image.img,
net_drivers-image.img, and cd_drivers-image.img) from the daily build
listed above.

Machine: Gateway 955
(http://products.gateway.com/products/GConfig/prodDetails.asp?system_id=gtwy955)
Processor: Intel Xeon 1.8GHz
Memory: 512 Meg
Root Device: aic7902
Root Size/partition table: Didn't get that far.
Output of lspci:
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. E7501 Memory Controller Hub (rev 01)
00:00.1 Class ff00: Intel Corp. E7000 Series Host RASUM Controller (rev 01)
00:03.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. E7000 Series Hub Interface C PCI-to-PCI Bridge (rev 01)
00:03.1 Class ff00: Intel Corp. E7000 Series Hub Interface C RASUM Controller (rev 01)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM USB (Hub #1) (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM USB (Hub #2) (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BA/CA/DB/EB PCI Bridge (rev 42)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801CA LPC Interface Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801CA Ultra ATA Storage Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM SMBus Controller (rev 02)
01:0c.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage XL (rev 27)
02:1c.0 PIC: Intel Corp. 82870P2 P64H2 I/OxAPIC (rev 04)
02:1d.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82870P2 P64H2 Hub PCI Bridge (rev 04)
02:1e.0 PIC: Intel Corp. 82870P2 P64H2 I/OxAPIC (rev 04)
02:1f.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82870P2 P64H2 Hub PCI Bridge (rev 04)
03:07.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82546EB Gigabit Ethernet Controller (Copper) 
(rev 01)
03:07.1 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82546EB Gigabit Ethernet Controller (Copper) 
(rev 01)
04:07.0 RAID bus controller: Adaptec AIC-7902 U320 w/HostRAID (rev 03)
04:07.1 RAID bus controller: Adaptec AIC-7902 U320 w/HostRAID (rev 03)

Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [ ]
Load installer modules: [ ]
Detect hard drives: [E]
Partition hard drives:  [ ]
Create file systems:[ ]
Mount partitions:   [ ]
Install base system:[ ]
Install boot loader:[ ]
Reboot: [ ]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems: Ethernet from the net_drivers-image.img worked. SCSI
from the cd_drivers-image.img didn't. Checking F3 the last messege is
moprobe:  failed to load module aic79xx. Trying to load the aic79xx
module manually (insmod aic79xx) gives me a No such device error.





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Bug#230438: FWD: Install Report - Failed CD-ROM install

2004-01-30 Thread Joey Hess
Package: installation-reports
 
 The following installation report was posted to debian-boot, and,
 according to my records, never followed up on. I am putting it in the
 BTS so it will not be lost.

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From: Erik Dykema [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 12:25:07 -0500
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Install Report - Failed CD-ROM install

Hi-
This is my second install report, apoligies for errors, welcome 
correction.

thanks,
Erik Dykema

INSTALL REPORT

Debian-installer-version: Jan 07 Daily, from
http://people.debian.org/~manty/testing/netinst/i386/daily/

uname -a: Linux 2.4.22-1-386 #9 Sat Oct 4 14:30.39 i686 unknown
Date: Jan 8, 2004, 11:00am

Method: sarge-i386-netinst.iso

Machine: Hp DL360 G3
Processor: 1 Intel Xeon
Memory: 1024 mb
Root Device: Smart Array 5i/532
Root Size/partition table:
disk1 ext2  34 gigs
disk5 linux swap 1 gig

Output of lspci:
lspci not found

Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[E] * See prev. report
Mount partitions:   [E] * See prev. report
Install base system:[E]
Install boot loader:[ ]
Reboot: [ ]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Note - This machine has two physical hard drives configured into a raid
0+1 array (in hardware), which the installer sees as one drive of half
the size (as it should).  Not sure if this has anything to do with
partitioning problems or not.

Comments/Problems:
(note - #1 is verbatim copied from my previous report, everything is the 
same, i have included it here for completeness only)
1.  The installer first went to cfdisk.  I created the partitions (1
ext3 (bootable), 1 swap), wrote the table, and selected finish.  Then it
went to the next screen where I am supposed to configure/mount the
partitions, and instead of the list of my partitions (should have been
2), the list has 6 or 8 entries, most consisting of just one letter,
like this:
N
N
O
O
P
P
Q
Q
913 MiB

Anytime I select one of these list entries and hit enter  it boots me
out to the menu screen.  At the menu screen, I am able to select
auto-partition, which works fine and creates almost the same setup that
I would have created anyway, so this is not a fatal problem.

2.  Everything seems to install fine excepting the kernel.  The red 
screen comes up and says that the kernel failed.  I hit alt-f3 to see 
what dpkg reports, and find the following:

/usr/sbin/mkinitrd: constituant device /dev/cciss/disc0/part1 does not exist
failed to create initrd image.

I believe that device to be my raid device.  When I look at it, ala:

ls -l /dev/cciss/disc0
it lists this:
brw--- 1 root root 104, 0 disc
brw--- 1 root root 104, 1 part1
brw--- 1 root root 104, 2 part2
brw--- 1 root root 104, 5 part5

Things that seem curious:
Why is mkinitd caring about my hardware devices, doesn't it just  
need to see the files in /target?
Why are there 3 partitions, there are only two in cfdisk (ext2, 
swap). Unless it counts a few megs of free space as another partition.


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Bug#230440: FWD: Re: INSTALL REPORT with 2004-01-09 netinst, failed

2004-01-30 Thread Joey Hess
Package: installation-reports
 
 The following installation report was posted to debian-boot, and,
 according to my records, never followed up on. I am putting it in the
 BTS so it will not be lost.

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From: Yann Dirson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 16:41:51 +0100
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: INSTALL REPORT with 2004-01-09 netinst, failed

As I attempt to do more not-so-uncommon things (with the 2004-01-03
snapshot)...

- I initially have a HD with a single ext3 partition + swap (from a
previous RH install).  If I repartition by deleting the ext3 and
repartitionning that space in 2, on the partition setup screen I
notice the 1st partition is already listed as ext3, and the 2nd not.
Then I realize it comes from the previous (RH) install.  I had not
realized that when just selecting a single partition, when I thought
ext3 was just a default.

Now if my original single-partition-over-RH had gone throught the
reboot stage, I may surely have ended up with a strange install. And
indeed the nc binary I had noticed, as well as the __libc_stack_end
issues probably derive from that.

 - Maybe the partition-setup screen could emphasize this issue ?

 - How about forcing system partitions (/, /usr(/*)?, /var(/*)?) to
 be formatted, or at least require confirmation ?

 - Is it really a good idea to use those programs just installed
 before rebooting ?


- Now when I decide to split the existing partition in 2, but do not
realize I must explicitely select format as ext3, since my partition
already appears as having ext3 selected (I thought), and go on, I'm
brought back to the main menu on the next step, and requesting to
install the base system brings me back there again almost instantly.
Only by looking at syslog I finally notice a read beyond end of
device attempt, which finally enlighten me on what's going on.

 - the user should be notified of such errors by an error box.

 - What about forcing the user to reformat such partitions, which we
 can decide must be invalid because they just reuse an existing block ?
 
 Or, probably better, when destroying a partition, we (cfdisk ?) could
 ask the user whether to nuke the 1st sectors, to avoid further
 misdetection.


- Once base packages are unpacked, while setting up lilo, I'm now
presented with a textbox containing the devfs name for the disk.  If I
want to install lilo in another location, it looks like I have to know
the devfs path, whereas in the old installer I could choose in a list,
which is much more suited to people not knowing devfs

BTW, is it wise at all to use devfs, which is tagged as OBSOLETE in 2.6 !?


- Selecting French as the keyboard layout after reboot, I do not
have time to see the keymap name, and subsequent error message, before
the next dialog screen.  And I end up with a querty-looking layout.

Looking at base-config.log, it appears that the selected layout is
mac-usb-fr (!).  That reminds me of a long-gone issue in console-tools
debconf settings.  Is it possible that some old
config-scripts/templates are kept around ?

Just after that, I get KDGKBENT at index 128 in table 8: invalid
argument, failed to dump keymap and not loading keymap messages,
which may explain why I still have a qwerty layout.

In the meantime, I was asked to enter the root password... and did
that using the qwerty layout, which is sure to give me an
unretrievable password when I change back to the correct layout
(ie. fr-pc).

If then I attempt to loadkeys fr-pc it works fine, but if I
install-keymap fr-pc I get the same error messages.


- When asked to select (again) an http mirror for downloading
packages, 1) my previous selection is not the default, maybe because
of 2) the country names being listed in english, despite all other
text being correctly in french.  However, the proxy information was
correctly memorized.

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Bug#230444: FWD: BETA2: Install Report

2004-01-30 Thread Joey Hess
Package: installation-reports
 
 The following installation report was posted to debian-boot, and,
 according to my records, never followed up on. I am putting it in the
 BTS so it will not be lost.

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From: Rahmat M. Samik-Ibrahim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 21 Jan 2004 12:34:02 +0700
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: BETA2: Install Report
X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.5 

* First of all, it is not easy to figure out; to where to send
  this report template. Please add an URL and or email contact
  address to that template.

* I have tested on two systems: one is using an ASUS P4/533 MB; 
  the other one is using an old ASUS P5A-B board (Pentium 166/MMX). 
  *** BOTH works OK! 

Note: the Pentium 166/MMX failed to boot the beta1 version
http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2003/debian-boot-2003012/msg00041.html

* Suggestions:
  There should be a mode between default and expert that asks if using:
  - DHCP or Static IP addresses
  - LILO, GRUB, or NEITHER


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Bug#230445: FWD: INSTALL REPORT d-i

2004-01-30 Thread Joey Hess
Package: installation-reports
 
 The following installation report was posted to debian-boot, and,
 according to my records, never followed up on. I am putting it in the
 BTS so it will not be lost.

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From: Markus Amersdorfer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 16:47:21 +0100
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: INSTALL REPORT d-i
X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.8a (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu)

INSTALL REPORT

Debian-installer-version: 20040103,
http://people.debian.org/cdimage/testing/netinst/i386/beta2/sarge-i386-netinst.iso
uname -a:
  Linux (none) 2.4.22-1-386 #9 Sat Oct 4 14:30:39 EST 2003 i686 unknown
Date: 20040119, 14:30
Method: Booted from CDROM, nothing special.

Machine: HP Pavilion k345
  See http://produkte.hp-austria.at/catalog/1065 for a link
  to specifications. Changes made to the machine: Additional RAM,
  additional NIC (with Realtek 8139D).
Processor: Athlon XP 2800+
Memory: 786 MB DDR-RAM (PC2700)
Root Device: IDE (Primary Master)
Root Size/partition table:
  First partition (60 GB) NTFS with HP's default OS.
  Second (also primary) partition (10 GB) Linux
  (I created this partition with the d-i's cfdisk program).

Output of lspci: (Using Knoppix 3.3)
00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8377 [KT400 AGP] Host
Bridge
00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8235 PCI Bridge
00:05.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
  RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
00:07.0 Communication controller: Intel Corp. 536EP Data Fax Modem
00:0c.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. IEEE 1394 Host
  Controller (rev 46)
00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 80)
00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 80)
00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 80)
00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 82)
00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8235 ISA Bridge
00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc.
  VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT8233/A/C/VT8235 PIPC Bus Master IDE
 (rev 06)
00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc.
  VT8233/A/8235 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102
  [Rhine-II](rev 74)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation
  NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] (rev a1)


Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[E]
Mount partitions:   [ ]
Install base system:[ ]
Install boot loader:[ ]
Reboot: [ ]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems:

1. Problem:
---
The problem occured after partitioning the disk and choosing Finish:
The install process just hung. Watching kernel messages on ALT+F3 (I
think), it said the following:

  Using /lib/modules//jbd.o
  Using /lib/modules//ext3.o
  Using /lib/modules//reiserfs.o
  Using /lib/modules//jfs.o
  insmod: xfs.o: no module by that name found
  modprobe: failed to load module xfs

Checking /lib/modules/.../, I couldn't find xfs.o by hand either.

Pressing CTRL+C resulted in nothing once and in a Kernel Ooops
twice.


2. Problem (general Linux-Problem!?):
-
The VIA-Rhine-II NIC (onboard) is not properly supported by the kernel.
Though it is recognized and the module is loaded, the NIC doesn't work
(no DHCP, etc.).
As I had the same problems with the Mandrake 9.2 install CD, I think
it's just a Linux kernel problem, so nothing directly related to d-i.


3. HCI:
-
Configure the Network should IMHO show the kernel-module assigned to
the available NICs listed. This way it would be possible to distinguish
between 2 different NICs (such as is the case in my machine: Via Rhine
and Realtek).
Currently, it only says eth0 and eth1, one has to guess here ...


4. HCI:
-
In case of DHCP-failure, it would be great if one could go back to the
NIC-menu without having to go through the manual network-settings and
finally have a - for an unexperienced user probably quite overwhelming -
menu of all possibly d-i steps.


Anyway, many thanks for your great and hard work!

Cheers,
Markus A.


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Bug#230446: FWD: Installation report

2004-01-30 Thread Joey Hess
Package: installation-reports
 
 The following installation report was posted to debian-boot, and,
 according to my records, never followed up on. I am putting it in the
 BTS so it will not be lost.

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From: Daniel W. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 09:30:42 -0800
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Installation report
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158

Hi,

I'll include a few details in the template below, but just a quickie summary--the 
installer as of today doesn't like SATA any more than anyone else's Linux installer.  
I'm hoping (perhaps against hope?) to find an installer that'll accept my Intel 
D865PERL board with a SATA drive; this one hangs at the 80% mark while the installer 
is loading the ide-detect module.

If I put the BIOS in Legacy mode where the SATA interface just looks like legacy IDE 
the installer passes this point just fine; however, I have the SATA drive plus 3 
regular ATA devices so I really don't want to install in Legacy mode and have to cut 
out one of the regular IDE ports.

Is there any chance that SATA support will be built into your installer any time soon?

Regards,

Dan
INSTALL REPORT

Debian-installer-version: 19Jan04
uname -a: N/A
Date: 19Jan04, 0800 PacificMethod: CD Full Image

Machine: Homebrew on Intel D865PERL boardProcessor:Pentium4 2.8GHz HT, 800FSB
Memory:512MB DDR400MHz
Root Device: SATA HDD- Hitachi 76 GB
Root Size/partition table: never got there
  table, with notes on which partitions are mounted where.
Output of lspci:

Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[E]
Configure network HW:   [ ]
Config network: [ ]
Detect CD:  [ ]
Load installer modules: [ ]
Detect hard drives: [ ]
Partition hard drives:  [ ]
Create file systems:[ ]
Mount partitions:   [ ]
Install base system:[ ]
Install boot loader:[ ]
Reboot: [ ]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems:

Description of the install, in prose, and any thoughts, comments
  and ideas you had during the initial install.
===
 Daniel W. Martin, Controller
   Tractor Equipment Sales
  www.tractor-equip.com  (408) 297-7422
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Bug#230447: FWD: Bug#229113: Package: installation-reports

2004-01-30 Thread Joey Hess
Package: installation-reports
 
 The following installation report was posted to debian-boot, and,
 according to my records, never followed up on. I am putting it in the
 BTS so it will not be lost.

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Date: 22 Jan 2004 19:14:08 -0800
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Bug#229113: Package: installation-reports
Reply-To: Dustin Harriman [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.5 

Package: installation-reports 

Debian-installer-version: Jan 22 2004 
http://people.debian.org/cdimage/testing/netinst/i386/beta2/sarge-i386-netinst.iso
uname -a: Linux tact 2.4.22-1-386 #9 Sat Oct 14 14:30:39 EST 2003 i686 
unknown 
Date: Jan 19 2004 
Method: Installed base from CD, booted from CD. 
Machine: Toshiba Satellite 1130 
Processor: Celeron 2.0 Ghz 
Memory: 256 MB 
Root Device: IDE hard drive /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc 
Root Size/partition table: available upon request 
Output of lspci: 
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82852/855GM Host Bridge (rev 01)
00:00.1 System peripheral: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 3584 (rev 01)
00:00.3 System peripheral: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 3585 (rev 01)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82852/855GM Integrated
Graphics Device (rev 01)
00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corp. 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics
Device (rev 01)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB USB (Hub #1) (rev 03)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB USB (Hub #2) (rev 03)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB USB (Hub #3) (rev 03)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB USB2 (rev 03)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BAM/CAM PCI Bridge (rev 83)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801DBM LPC Interface Controller (rev
03)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801DBM Ultra ATA Storage Controller
(rev 03)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBM SMBus Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB AC'97 Audio
Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.6 Modem: Intel Corp. 82801DB AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 03)
02:01.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
02:04.0 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ6933 Cardbus Controller (rev
01)
02:04.1 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ6933 Cardbus Controller (rev
01)
[
Base System Installation Checklist: 

Initial boot worked:[O] 
Configure network HW:   [O] 
Config network: [O] 
Detect CD:  [O] 
Load installer modules: [O] 
Detect hard drives: [O] 
Partition hard drives:  [O] 
Create file systems:[O] 
Mount partitions:   [O] 
Install base system:[O] 
Install boot loader:[O] 
Reboot: [O] 
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it 

Comments/Problems: 

I have 5 issues...

1)  When it came time to format partitions on the hard drive, there was
a possibility for confusion of novice users.  Before the first screen 
where formatting choices are offered (this screen gets looped back to), 
there should be an informational screen saying that it's time to do some
formatting, and that one needs at least one partition, for the root 
filesystem (recommending type ext3 for beginners), and one swap
partition (recommending it being about twice a large in size as the
amount of RAM that is available, and show calculated ram size * 
2).  Then explain a loop will be entered for formatting as many 
partitions as needed, then choose exit to move onto the next step of 
installation. 

2)  When it was time to get the apt sources, the cyclical nature is 
confusing, it's not differentiated which repositories it's trying to go 
get, eg. non-US, main, contrib, etc.  So one doesn't know if it's 
looping, getting the same info, or if one needs to keep trying so as to 
get more sources. 

3)  I'm also disappointed that the stock kernel did not have CD burner 
support.  (ide-scsi emulation, etc) 

4)  A checklist-based list of installation activities should be
presented right from the start so the user knows what's in store and is
less confused.  During the first few steps of the install, there is no
choice in steps, like choosing a hostname, etc. This lack of choice
continues up to the point where the base is to be installed.  It's wierd
to be dumped out into the middle of a menu of options after that. 
Perhaps the menu of options should be run through right from the start
to stay consistent.  A checkbox showing completion could be displayed
for each step that's been completed, and/or bolding of text so users
don't get intimidated by the choices, they could go doen the choices one
by one.  Also, before starting at the beginning of this menu, a screen
explaining how the menu should be done from top to bottom, perhaps
occasionally skipping items, should be presented to furtherly minimize
confusion.

5)  I went through the install once, then a bit later needed to re-LILO
again, so I went through the 

Bug#230451: installation-reports

2004-01-30 Thread mammique
Package: installation-reports

Debian-installer-version: 
http://people.debian.org/cdimage/testing/netinst/powerpc/beta2/sarge-powerpc-netinst.iso
 (20040130)
uname -a: Linux JulienLepers 2.4.22-powerpc #1 jeu déc 18 10:17:34 CET 2003 ppc 
GNU/Linux
Date: 20040130
Method: 
http://people.debian.org/cdimage/testing/netinst/powerpc/beta2/sarge-powerpc-netinst.iso

Machine: iBook 2 rev. 2
Processor: G3/4
Memory:  255608 kB
Root Device:
/dev/hda3 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
Root Size/partition table:
/dev/hda
#type name length   base ( size )  
system
/dev/hda1 Apple_partition_map Apple63 @ 1( 31.5k)  
Partition map
/dev/hda2 Apple_Bootstrap bootstrap  1600 @ 64   (800.0k)  
NewWorld bootblock
/dev/hda3 Apple_UNIX_SVR2 GNU/Linux   8387008 @ 1664 (  4.0G)  
Linux native
/dev/hda4   Apple_HFS Mac OS X8388608 @ 8388672  (  4.0G)  HFS
/dev/hda5 Apple_UNIX_SVR2 Swap 524288 @ 16777280 (256.0M)  
Linux swap
/dev/hda6   Apple_HFS Data   12582912 @ 17301568 (  6.0G)  HFS
/dev/hda7 Apple_UNIX_SVR2 Home   28720640 @ 29884480 ( 13.7G)  
Linux native
 
Block size=512, Number of Blocks=58605120
DeviceType=0x0, DeviceId=0x0

Output of lspci:
00:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea AGP
00:10.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon 
Mobility 7500]
10:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea PCI
10:17.0 Class ff00: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo/Pangea Mac I/O
10:18.0 USB Controller: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo/Pangea USB
10:19.0 USB Controller: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo/Pangea USB
20:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea Internal PCI
20:0e.0 Class : Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea FireWire (rev ff)
20:0f.0 Ethernet controller: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea GMAC (Sun GEM)

Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [ ]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [ ]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[O]
Reboot: [O]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems: Selected french azerty mac-usb keyboard but got an usual
qwerty keyboard at boot prompt.

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Bug#230449: FWD: INSTALL REPORT (medium priority)

2004-01-30 Thread Joey Hess
Package: installation-reports
 
 The following installation report was posted to debian-boot, and,
 according to my records, never followed up on. I am putting it in the
 BTS so it will not be lost.

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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 21:34:51 +1100
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: INSTALL REPORT (medium priority)

Package: installation-reports

INSTALL REPORT

Debian-installer-version: Beta 2
uname -a: Linux brutus 2.4.24-1-686 #1 Tue Jan 6 21:29:44 EST 2004 i686 GNU/Linux
Date: Sat Jan 24 18:04:25 EST 2004
Method: business card CD, net install, DEBCONF_PRIORITY=medium, transparently proxied

Machine: Noname clone
Processor: Pentium IV
Memory: 256M
Root Device: IDE, /dev/hda2
Root Size/partition table:  

Disk /dev/hda: 120.0 GB, 120034123776 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 14593 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1   *   17295585970567  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/hda272967356  489982+  83  Linux
/dev/hda373577372  128520   82  Linux swap
/dev/hda47373   1459358002682+  8e  Linux LVM

FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda2 464M   55M  386M  13% /
/dev/base/home2.0G   33M  1.9G   2% /home
/dev/base/tmp 2.0G   33M  1.9G   2% /tmp
/dev/base/usr 9.9G  151M  9.2G   2% /usr
/dev/base/var 9.9G   95M  9.3G   1% /var

Output of lspci:

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82845 845 (Brookdale) Chipset Host Bridge (rev 03)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82845 845 (Brookdale) Chipset AGP Bridge (rev 03)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BA/CA/DB/EB PCI Bridge (rev 12)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BA ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 12)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801BA IDE U100 (rev 12)
00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM USB (Hub #1) (rev 12)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM SMBus (rev 12)
00:1f.4 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM USB (Hub #2) (rev 12)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] (rev 
b2)
03:00.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1370 [AudioPCI] (rev 01)
03:01.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro 100] (rev 08)
03:02.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB12LV23 IEEE-1394 Controller

Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[O]
Reboot: [O]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems:

I note that the lvm10 package is still not being installed into the fresh 
installation even when LVM is used during the install, resulting in a system
that can't mount it's filesystems on first boot. I've filed a bug as it
doesn't appear that one has been yet.


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Re: categorising installation reports

2004-01-30 Thread Simon Hürlimann
Am Saturday 31 January 2004 00:41 schrieb Joey Hess:
 I've attached it to this mail
Well... not sure about that:-)


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PT translation - please commit

2004-01-30 Thread Miguel Figueiredo
Here goes tasksel-1.43/tasks/po/pt.po please commit.

msgfmt -o /dev/null --statistics pt.po
80 translated messages.
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# tasksel Portuguese translation 
# Copyright (C) 2004 Miguel Figueiredo
# This file is distributed under the same license as the tasksel package.
# Miguel Figueiredo [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2004.
#

msgid 
msgstr 
Project-Id-Version: tasksel 1.43\n
Report-Msgid-Bugs-To: \n
POT-Creation-Date: 2004-01-28 22:47-0500\n
PO-Revision-Date: 2004-01-30 19:45+\n
Last-Translator: Miguel Figueiredo [EMAIL PROTECTED]\n
Language-Team: Portuguese [EMAIL PROTECTED]\n
MIME-Version: 1.0\n
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8\n
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit\n

#. Description
#: ../po/debian-tasks.desc:4
msgid X window system
msgstr X window system

#. Description
#: ../po/debian-tasks.desc:4
msgid 
This task provides the essential components for a standalone workstation 
running the X Window System. It provides the X libraries, an X server, a set 
of fonts, and a group of basic X clients and utilities.
msgstr 
Esta tarefa fornece componentes essenciais para uma estação de trabalho 
correr o X Window System. Disponibiliza livrarias X, um servidor X, um 
conjunto de fontes, um grupo de clientes básicos de X e utilitários.

#. Description
#: ../po/debian-tasks.desc:13
msgid Broadband internet connection
msgstr Ligação à internet de banda larga.

#. Description
#: ../po/debian-tasks.desc:13
msgid 
This task selects packages that address special needs of computers that 
connect to the internet using DSL, Cable, and the like.
msgstr 
Esta tarefa selecciona pacotes que endereçam necessidades especiais a 
computadores que se ligam à internet usando DSL, Cabo, e similares.

#. Description
#: ../po/debian-tasks.desc:21
msgid C and C++
msgstr C e C++

#. Description
#: ../po/debian-tasks.desc:21
msgid 
A complete environment for development of programs in the C and C++ 
programming languages.
msgstr 
Um ambiente completo de desenvolvimento de programas nas linguagens de 
programação C e C++.

#. Description
#: ../po/debian-tasks.desc:33
msgid Catalan environment
msgstr Ambiente Catalão

#. Description
#: ../po/debian-tasks.desc:33
msgid 
This task installs packages and documentation in Catalan to help Catalan 
speaking people use Debian.
msgstr 
Este pacote instala pacotes e documentação em Catalão para auxiliar 
utilizadores de Debian que falam Catalão.

#. Description
#: ../po/debian-tasks.desc:41
msgid Simplified Chinese environment
msgstr Ambiente Chinês simplificado

#. Description
#: ../po/debian-tasks.desc:41
msgid 
This task installs programs, data files, fonts, and documentation that makes 
it easier for Chinese speakers to use Debian, using the simplified Chinese 
encoding.
msgstr 
Esta tarefa instala programas, ficheiros de dados, fontes, e documentação 
que ajudam utilizadores de Debian que falam Chinês, usando codificação 
simplificada Chinesa.

#. Description
#: ../po/debian-tasks.desc:56
msgid Traditional Chinese environment
msgstr Ambiente Chinês tradicional

#. Description
#: ../po/debian-tasks.desc:56
msgid 
This task installs programs, data files, fonts, and documentation that makes 
it easier for Chinese speakers to use Debian, using the traditional Chinese 
encoding.
msgstr 
Esta tarefa instala programas, ficheiros de dados, fontes, e documentação 
que ajudam utilizadores de Debian Chineses, usando a codificação Chinês 
tradicional.

#. Description
#: ../po/debian-tasks.desc:71
msgid Cyrillic environment
msgstr Ambiente Círilico

#. Description
#: ../po/debian-tasks.desc:71
msgid 
This task provides Cyrillic fonts and other software you will need in order 
to use Cyrillic.  It supports Belarusian, Bulgarian, Macedonian, Russian, 
Serbian and Ukrainian.
msgstr 
Esta tarefa disponibiliza fontes Círilicas e outro software que vai necessitar
para usar Círilico. Suporta Bielorusso, Búlgaro, Macedónio, Russo, Sérvio e 
Ucrâniano.

#. Description
#: ../po/debian-tasks.desc:81
msgid Danish environment
msgstr Ambiente Dinamarquês

#. Description
#: ../po/debian-tasks.desc:81
msgid 
This task installs packages and documentation in Danish to help Danish 
speaking people use Debian.
msgstr 
Esta tarefa instala pacotes e documentação em Dinamarquês para ajudar 
quem fala Dinamarquês a utilizar Debian.

#. Description
#: ../po/debian-tasks.desc:89
msgid SQL database
msgstr Base de dados SQL

#. Description
#: ../po/debian-tasks.desc:89
msgid 
This task selects client and server packages for the PostgreSQL database.
msgstr 
Esta tarefa selecciona pacotes cliente e servidor para a base de dados.

#. Description
#: ../po/debian-tasks.desc:89
msgid 
PostgreSQL is an SQL relational database, offering increasing SQL92 
compliance and some SQL3 features.  It is suitable for use with multi-user 
database access, through its facilities for transactions and fine-grained 
locking.
msgstr 

Re: categorising installation reports

2004-01-30 Thread Joey Hess
Joey Hess wrote:
 We have over 150 uncategorised installation reports now, and until
 they're processed, we can't really know what the worst problems are in
 beta 2. So I declare the next week to be installation report processing
 week. If you have some spare time anytime this week, process a couple of
 installation reports. Goal for next Friday is to process all
 installation reports reported in the past 30 days. If ten of us do five
 reports each this week, we should get within sight of this goal.
 
 So far only a few people have been working on this, so to help others
 get up to speed on it, I have written a document explaining the process,
 and the information you need to know to effectively process an
 installation report. I've attached it to this mail and it's also
 doc/installation-reports.txt in CVS. After it's been commented on here,
 I plan to post a larger call for help to debian-devel-announce,
 including a link to the document (as well as the rest of our TODO list
 and so on).

Unsuprisingly, I forgot the attachment...

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Dealing with d-i installation reports
=

Debian-Installer has a large number of installation reports in the BTS.
These are very valuable to us, since they're our only way of knowing how
well d-i is doing on widely varied hardware, operated by users who are not
intimatly familiar with d-i. But after each beta release of the installer,
we get more installation reports than our limited manpower can easily deal
with. 

This document is aimed at getting a Debian developer who is not
familiar with d-i up to the point where you can help us process and
categorise our install reports. Along the way, you should learn a lot more
about d-i.

It would be a good idea to go check out our web site
(http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer), read the
INSTALLATION-HOWTO, and do a test install to a spare swap partition or
machine, to get a feel for what d-i looks like, and what a user sees before
filing an installation report. You might want to file your own installation
report summarising your experiences, too.


The BTS
---

All of our install reports should be under the installation-reports
pseudo-package in the BTS, although sometimes they are miscategorised in
other places (like under installation). As with any report, the users
often get the severity wrong; just because d-i breaks on their machine does
not really warrent a grave severity installation report.

The more current, interesting, and easier to deal with reports are at the
end of the list of normal severity reports. As you head back in time to the
beginning of the list, the versions of the installer become progressively
more broken, and our memories of the old bugs fainter.

The process of categorising an installation report is mainly one of reading
over the report, and identifying problems, and working out what part of the
installer is responsible for the problem, and cloning off a bug report to
be reassigned to that installer component. The goal is to make sure the
right people see the report, and make sure that no useful information is
disregarded or lost.


Processing a sample report
--

Let's look at a sample installation report, bug #230396. This walkthrough
is provided as an example of how someone knoweledgable about the parts of
d-i and how they interact would process this report. Later sections of this
document will try to fill in the gaps you'll need to be able to do the
same.

The first thing to take note of is the version of the installer, and the
media used to install and basic description of the machine. Without this
info, many install reports will be useless, so if you find an install
report without that basic info, or that is too vague about it, you may need
to write the reporter to get more info, and tag it moreinfo in the
meantime.

The summary of it is a little way down:

  Base System Installation Checklist:

  Initial boot worked:[O]
  Configure network HW:   [E]
  Config network: [O]
  Detect CD:  [ ]
  Load installer modules: [E]
  Detect hard drives: [ ]
  Partition hard drives:  [ ]
  Create file systems:[ ]
  Mount partitions:   [ ]
  Install base system:[ ]
  Install boot loader:[ ]
  Reboot: [ ]
  [O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Well this install didn't go very well, they had problems and failed to
install. Looking in the Comments/Problems section, we see:

   I have a D-Link DE-220 ISA Card. The address/irq is 0x300, 11.
   The detection failed (its not a PNP card).
   Choosing the module 'ne' also failed, because it did not prompt me to
   enter the io port and irq.

   I was able to get the card to work by using insmod with the correct
   io/irq from the command line.

That explains the first E in the list. The part of the installer that is
responsible for configuring network hardware is the ethdetect package. The
problem 

Re: bug in ethdetect.sh ?

2004-01-30 Thread Joey Hess
sylvain ferriol wrote:
 hello
 could you add this to ethdetect.sh?
 
 Index: ethdetect.sh
 ===
 RCS file: /cvsroot/d-i/debian-installer/tools/ddetect/ethdetect.sh,v
 retrieving revision 1.15
 diff -r1.15 ethdetect.sh
 69a70,71
 
  continue

Please always use context diffs. Besides being impossible to read or
hand-apply (or apply with patch, as fas as I can tell), the above diff
breaks as soon as someone else edits the file.

 this avoid to have all the time the 'ethdetect/cannot_find' window after 
 selecting a net module in the modules list

I think I see what you're talking about, I have put a fix in cvs.

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Bug#230455: FWD: Install Report [Failed Install]

2004-01-30 Thread Joey Hess
Package: installation-reports

This was posted to the mailing list, never replied to, and I'm putting
it in the BTS to make sure it's not lost.

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From: Charles Muller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 16:04:44 +0900
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Install Report [Failed Install]

[My apologies for the two prior messages with corrupted text. My Emacs 
didn't handle the encoding right for the system report that I generated 
in Windoze]

INSTALL REPORT

Debian-installer-version:
http://people.debian.org/cdimage/testing/netinst/i386/beta2/sarge-i386-netinst.iso 
(2004.01.21)

uname -a: Linux xps8250 2.4.22 #1 Wed Nov 19 13:13:23 EST 2003 i686 
GNU/Linux

Date: 2004.01.21
Method: Booted off ISO copied to CD-R. Never got past the second screen,
so Network info is presently not applicable

Machine: Dell Dimension XPS 8250
Processor:  Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.53GHz
Memory: 512MB RDRAM
Root Device: I don't know what root device means.
Root Size/partition table: How do I get this information?

Output of lspci:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] lspci

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82850 850 (Tehama) Chipset Host Bridge 
(MCH) (rev 04)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82850 850 (Tehama) Chipset AGP Bridge 
(rev 04)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BA/CA/DB/EB PCI Bridge (rev 04)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BA ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 04)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801BA IDE U100 (rev 04)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM SMBus (rev 04)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX 
420] (rev a3)
02:01.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 50)
02:01.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 50)
02:01.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 51)
02:02.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 50)
02:02.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 50)
02:02.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 51)
02:08.0 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec AHA-2940/2940W / AIC-7871
02:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 04)
02:09.2 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Creative Labs SB Audigy FireWire Port (rev 04)
02:0c.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro 100] 
(rev 10)


Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[O]

keyboard goes dead when the first non-text screen appears for selecting
language.

--- that's it, below questions n/a  --

Configure network HW:   [n/a]
Config network: [n/a]
Detect CD:  [n/a]
Load installer modules: [n/a]
Detect hard drives: [n/a]
Partition hard drives:  [n/a]
Create file systems:[n/a]
Mount partitions:   [n/a]
Install base system:[n/a]
Install boot loader:[n/a]
Reboot: [n/a]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it


Comments/Problems:

I have googled around on this, and this problem has been reported by
others who are using relatively new Dells, including Optiplexes and
Dimensions. This has been happening on the Sarge install ISOs (not only
netinst) since I have been trying them for about six weeks. It also
happens with Woody BF24.

As far as installation reports go, it would be nice if there was a mail
address right on the install page to which we could sent without having
to figure out that we need to get subscribed to this mail list.


 System Summary 


   System 
Host Name: DIMENSION-8250
User:  Charles Muller
Domain:DIMENSION-8250

   Processor 
Model: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.53GHz
Speed: 2.52GHz
Performance Rating:PR2772 (estimated)
Type:  Standard
L2 On-board Cache: 512kB ECC Synchronous ATC (8-way 
sectored, 64
   byte line size)

   Mainboard 
Bus(es):   X-Bus AGP PCI IMB USB FireWire/1394 
i2c/SMBus
MP Support:1 CPU(s)
MP APIC:   Yes
System BIOS:   Dell Computer Corporation A02
Mainboard: Dell Computer Corp. 00W912
Total Memory:  511MB RDRAM

   Chipset 1 
Model: Dell Computer Corp 82850/E Host-Hub 
Interface
   Bridge Device (A3-step)
Front Side Bus Speed:  4x 133MHz (532MHz data rate)
Total Memory:  512MB RDRAM
Memory Bus Speed:  2x 532MHz (1064MHz data rate)

   Video System 
Monitor/Panel: (AM
Adapter:   64MB DDR NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 420 with 
TV Out
   (Dell)

   Physical Storage Devices 
Removable Drive:

Re: Make bootable CD from downloaded iso

2004-01-30 Thread Pedro M.
Steve Haavik wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jan 2004, David MacQuigg wrote:


I would like a simple procedure to make a bootable CD out of this image
file, preferably one that will work from a bare-minimum Linux system ( or
even from Windows XP, if that is at all possible ).  Thanks for your help.


Suggestions for recording the image using linux are at
http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#record-unix although the example
commandline they give looks overly complicated. Instructions for doing it
under Windows are there also. Cdrecord should be on the Knoppix cd (at
least I seem to remember burning disks using it...)
On my Windows XP box all I have to do is double click on the ISO and
Easy-CD Creator starts. Under Linux I use cdrecord. The exact command line
I use for it is cdrecord -v -eject dev=0,0,0 filename.iso. You can use
cdrecord -scanbus to findout what device number you should be using for
the dev= option.


I would add to this web page that Knoppix includes hardware 
autodetection before optional hard disk intallation

http://www.knoppix.net

I would include Knoppix in the official Debian CD ( like complementary).

Regards

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Bug#230458: installation-reports: Install failed

2004-01-30 Thread Philip Miller
Package: installation-reports

Debian-installer-version: Beta 2 Businesscard netinst from 
http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/netinst/i386/beta2/sarge-i386-businesscard.iso
uname -a:Linux debian 2.4.22-1-386 #9 Sat Oct 4 14:30:39 EST 2003 i686 unknown
Date: 2004-01-30 18:28 -0500
Method: boot from cd-rw made from above image, used
net debian-installer/framebuffer=false - see below

Machine: White-box from ~1998
Processor: Pentium II 400
Memory: 64MiB
Root Device: /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1
Root Size/partition table: 5.6GiB
Output of lspci: not convenient to paste - system did not install
Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[O] - see below
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[E]
Install boot loader:[ ]
Reboot: [ ]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it
Comments/Problems:
1. Boot - I attached an ancient IBM VGA monitor for the installation since 
it would run headless afterwards. When entering just net at the boot: 
prompt, the kernel would load correctly, but the monitor would show garbage 
once d-i started. D-I's colors were distinguishable on the screen, but I 
believe the sync frequency was too high for this monitor. Perhaps disable FB 
by default, since it doesn't appear to be used by the installer in any 
special way?
2. While it was downloading the base system packages (window title 
Retrieving Packages), it intermittently printed the literal Verifying 
%s... instead of substituting the current package name for %s.
3. Base system installation error - Main display read The debootstrap 
program exited with an error (return value 127). and suggested looking at 
the log. Here is the tail of /target/var/log/debootstrap.log:
--deboostrap.log:
Setting up libtextwrap1 (0.1-1) ...

Setting up tasksel (1.40) ...

Errors were encountered while processing:
 libopencdk8
 libgnutls7
 exim4-daemon-light
 mailx
 at
 exim4
/usr/sbin/debootstrap: 1: sleep: not found
--
Note that /target/var/log/debootstrap.err.log was of size 0
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Bug#230261: Beta installer : installation-reports

2004-01-30 Thread Simon Hürlimann
Am Thursday 29 January 2004 16:33 schrieb vincent:
 Package: installation-reports
 PS:
   This installer is really great !!!, i will now use it on a real machine.
   Thanks to all the debian devellopers.

As this installation report doesn't describe any bugs, it gets now closed.

Thanx for your installation report!
Simon Hürlimann



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Re: categorising installation reports

2004-01-30 Thread Simon Hürlimann
Am Saturday 31 January 2004 00:41 schrieb Joey Hess:
 We have over 150 uncategorised installation reports now, and until
 they're processed, we can't really know what the worst problems are in
 beta 2. So I declare the next week to be installation report processing
 week. If you have some spare time anytime this week, process a couple of
 installation reports. Goal for next Friday is to process all
 installation reports reported in the past 30 days. If ten of us do five
 reports each this week, we should get within sight of this goal.
I just began doing my five:-)

But I need some hints:
#230458 mentions Validating %s problems, I remember some messages about this 
on the list. But I don't know where to report this problem. Is this specific 
to some udebs or a general prolem? Do I have to ask the reporter for more 
infos?

He also mentions to turn FB off by default. As I remember this can't be done 
'cause of Japanese and other multibyte charsets. Is this correct?

Simon


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Bug#230374: marked as done (Package: installation-reports)

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INSTALL REPORT

Debian-installer-version: 'sarge' beta 2 from http://people.debian.org
uname -a: Linux lenny 2.4.22-1-386 #9 Sat Oct 4 14:30:39 EST 2003 i686
GNU/Linux
Date: Thu Jan 29 21:00:00 UTC 2004
Method: Boot from 100MB CD image
Machine: Generic PC Clone, Pentium IV
Processor: Pentium4 (i686)
Memory: 512M
Root Device: /dev/hda1
Root Size/partition table:

Disk /dev/hda: 2498 cylinders, 255 heads, 63 sectors/track
Units =3D cylinders of 8225280 bytes, blocks of 1024 bytes, counting =
from
0

   Device Boot Start End   #cyls#blocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1   *  0+   23702371-  19045026   83  Linux   -- Root
here
/dev/hda2   23712497 1271020127+  82  Linux swap
/dev/hda3  0   -   0  00  Empty
/dev/hda4  0   -   0  00  Empty

Output of lspci:

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82845 845 (Brookdale) Chipset Host
Bridge (rev 03)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82845 845 (Brookdale) Chipset AGP Bridge
(rev 03)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BA/CA/DB/EB PCI Bridge (rev 12)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BA ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 12)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801BA IDE U100 (rev 12)
00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM USB (Hub #1) (rev 12)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM SMBus (rev 12)
00:1f.4 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM USB (Hub #2) (rev 12)
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio
(rev 12)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 PF/PRO
AGP 4x TMDS
02:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro 100]
(rev 0c)

Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[O]
Reboot: [O]
[O] =3D OK, [E] =3D Error (please elaborate below), [ ] =3D didn't try =
it

Comments/Problems:

No problems--very straightforward installation process!  Much easier
than
with 'woody'.  Nice job!

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Package: installation-reports

Debian-installer-version: 
http://people.debian.org/cdimage/testing/netinst/i386/beta2/sarge-i386-businesscard.iso
uname -a: Linux localhost 2.4.24-1-386 Tue Jan 6 19:18:04 EST 2004 GNU/Linux
Date: approximatively 28/01/04
Method: network install, from France, mir2.ovh.net   not Proxied

Machine:  Virtual Machine (VMware)

Processor: Athlon XP 2000+

Memory:   192 Mo

Root Device: Scsi emulated by VMware (real : Maxtor IDE)

Root Size/partition table: 
sda1 swap 509 M
sda2 Primary ReiserFS 3783 M

Output of lspci:
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (rev 
01)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge (rev 01)
00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 08)
00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB
00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 08)
00:0f.0 VGA compatible controller: VMWare Inc: Unknown device 0405
00:10.0 SCSI storage controller: BusLogic BT-946C (BA80C30) [MultiMaster 10] 
(rev 01)
00:11.0 Ethernet controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] 79c970 [PCnet32 
LANCE] (rev 10)
00:12.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] (rev 02)



Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[O ]
Configure network HW:   [O ]
Config network: [O ]
Detect CD:  [O ]
Load installer modules: [O ]
Detect hard drives: [O ]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O ]
Mount partitions:   [O ]
Install base system:[ O]
Install boot loader:[O]
Reboot: [O ]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it



PS: 
This installer is really great !!!, i will now use it on a real machine. 
Thanks to all the debian devellopers.



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Bug#230458: Acknowledgement (installation-reports: Install failed)

2004-01-30 Thread Philip Miller
Package: installation-reports

This result is repeatable, at least on the same machine. If there's any 
specific debugging which you (the collected developers) would like me to do, 
I'd be glad to help. I'll make sure not to change anything about it.

When the initial error message is displayed, the last log line on tty4 is as 
follows:
Jan 30 19:53:55 (none)  user.info run-debootstrap[4035]: Failure while 
configuring base packages.  This will be attempted 5 times.

The contents of /target/var/log/debootstrap.log end identically, and the 
file is the same size as before.

Before I dump a boatload of data here, what specific information would be 
useful?

Keep up the good work!

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Bug#226200: CP1251 should be added

2004-01-30 Thread Kenshi Muto
At Fri, 30 Jan 2004 19:39:00 +0200,
Ognyan Kulev wrote:
 bg_BG uses CP1251 encoding and it suffers the same problem -- unreadable 
 glyphs when Bulgarian translation is selected.  So CP1251 should be 
 added to the switch along with KOI-R and others.

Sure, I added to use jfbterm for Bulgarian.

Thanks,
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Bug#152152: STOCK MARKET BULLETIN: 7-Eleven Stores looking to add QENC bottled water

2004-01-30 Thread Laurel Lehman
OTC FIRST ALERT - 2003 Third Quarter Net Income Rose 76.8%

Symbol: QENC
Market: OTC
Sector: High End Natural Bottle Water

BREAKING NEWS: JERICHO, N.Y., Jan 28, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Queench, Inc
(OTC: QENC) In Negotiations with 7-Eleven Stores for Nationwide Launch of 
Queench Products - 7-Eleven is looking forward to adding to their inventory
various sizes of Queench water products. 7-Eleven has more than 4000 stores
nationwide. Each store consistently serves on average 1300 customers in a 
24-hour period, giving Queench products added exposure within their market
share.


BREAKING NEWS: JERICHO, NEW YORK, Jan 20, 2004 (CCNMatthews) -- Queench, Inc.
(OTC: QENC) Board of Directors include Spencer Gillette, Chairperson - Vice
President of Blimpie Corporation, Bill Ford - Owner of Ford Modeling Agency,
La-Van Hawkins - President of Hawkins Food Group, Curtis Martin - New York
Jets All-Star Running Back...

BREAKING NEWS:  Jan 8, 2004 -- QENC is now a full-time supplier of bottled
water to the military.  QENC today announced that it has completed inspection
and approval of its water bottling plants by the U.S. Army Veterinary Command
(VETCOM).

BREAKING NEWS:  Nov. 13, 2003 -- QENC 2003 Third Quarter Net Income Rose 76.8%.
The Third Quarter Net Income ending 9/30/03 increased 76.8% from the Q2, and a
987% increase year-to-year. Net income for the 9 months ending 9/30/03
resulted in a 1274% year-to-year increase.



Jim Furey of Lehman Brothers says, You want to own small stocks versus large
stocks when economic growth is accelerating, which is exactly the period we're
in now.

QENC is a small company perfectly poised to harness the $7.6 billion bottle
water segment with a high quality premium brand priced competitively.

The bottled water segment is the fastest growing of the beverage market.  Of
the $100 billion beverage industry, bottled water is nearly $7.6 billion
annually, and forecasted to grow over 50% over the next 5 years.

In this bottled water segment, QENC has the best of both worlds, where unlike
Aquafina and Dasani, QENC is high-end natural spring water, and unlike Evian,
QENC is competitively priced.  QENC's target consumer is health and beauty
conscious including Gen Y, Gen X, and Baby Boomers who live a metropolitan
lifestyle.

QENC currently offers two fantastic product lines: Queech Natural Spring Water
and the Queech Flavored Water Beverages, which are vitamin-enhanced and come
in five cool new flavors: Coconut, O' Ginger, Red Raspberry, Pineapple and
Lemon.


DISTRIBUTION AND MARKETING

Jan 28, 2004 QENC announced today that 7-Eleven is looking forward to adding
to their inventory various sizes of Queench water products. 7-Eleven has more
than 4000 stores nationwide. Each store consistently serves on average 1300
customers in a 24-hour period, giving Queench products added exposure within
their market share.

QENC bottled water is nationally distributed through SYSCO FOODS.  SYSCO Foods
is the largest food distributor operating 145 locations and has sales and 
service relationships with 420,000 customers including restaurants, healthcare
and educational facilities, lodging establishments, and more.  This
relationship provides key access to new markets with low capital requirements.

Naomi Campbell's NC CONNECT integrated marketing agency, has signed to help
QENC reach national and global consumers by providing marketing and
advertising that will position QENC as a major lifestyle brand in the bottled
water market.

01/08/04: QENC completed inspection and approval of its plants by the US Army
Veterinary Command (VETCOM).  QENC's been supplying the military contract in
the South and Florida and the Army has been increasing orders on a monthly
basis, which will result in higher Q1 2004 revenue.

12/03/03: QENC's strategically placing new eye-catching vending machines in
locations on college campuses, retail, entertainment and sports venues and
convenience stores.  500 vending machines installed in initial rollout in 2003
with approx. 2,500 vending machines to be installed in a 3-year period. The
beverage-vending channel is typically highly profitable.



FINAL CONSIDERATIONS

7-Eleven is looking forward to adding to their inventory various sizes of 
Queench water products.

12/03/03: QENC is currently shipping over 54,000 cases of bottled water
quarterly, with a year-to-date quarterly revenue growth rate of 19.7%

QENC's NET INCOME for the Q3 ending 9/30/03 increased 76.8% from the Q2, and a
987% increase year-to-year. Net income for the 9 months ending 9/30/03
resulted in a 1274% year-to-year increase.

QENC's SALES for the Q2 of 2002 increased 77% to $848,269 year-to-year, from
$478,052, as a result of rolling out new product lines and implementing a 
channel development strategy.

QENC's high quality premium water is priced very competitive, they have an
excellent distribution channel with SYSCO and strategically placed vending
machines, and a marketing campaign designed to focus on 

Bug#230462: downloads kernel-image package

2004-01-30 Thread Matt Kraai
Package: anna
Version: 0.048
Severity: minor

anna downloads the kernel-image package, which isn't necessary.
Here is an excerpt from /var/log/syslog:

 Jan 30 17:12:26 (none) user.debug anna[1069]: DEBUG: install 
kernel-image-2.4.24-1-386-di, dependency from cdrom-core-modules-2.4.24-1-386-di
 ...
 Jan 30 17:12:26 (none) user.debug anna[1069]: DEBUG: ask for 
cdrom-core-modules-2.4.24-1-386-di, matches kernel
 Jan 30 17:12:26 (none) user.debug anna[1069]: DEBUG: install 
cdrom-core-modules-2.4.24-1-386-di, priority = standard

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Bug#230463: invalid locale message

2004-01-30 Thread Matt Kraai
Package: base-config
Version: 2.08
Severity: minor

When I boot into stage 2, I see the following messages before
base-config is displayed:

 termwrap: locale-gen: Generating locales...
 cannot open locale definition file `en_:en_US': No such file or directory
 termwrap: locale-gen:  en_:en_US.ISO-8859-1...warning: Current charset encoding 
'ANSI_X3.4-1968' is unknown.  Using default terminal.

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Processed: your mail

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 clone 230451 -1
Bug#230451: installation-reports
Bug 230451 cloned as bug 230461.

 reassign -1 kbd-chooser
Bug#230461: installation-reports
Bug reassigned from package `installation-reports' to `kbd-chooser'.

 retitle -1 Select french azerty mac-usb keyboard but got qwerty at boot prompt
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Re: Install Report - Failure to detect SCSI Adaptec AIC-7892a

2004-01-30 Thread Matt Kraai
On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 09:09:33AM -0500, Erik Dykema wrote:
   However in the past few days the installer has failed to detect the 
 scsi card in my machine, which seems to be a big step backwards.
   It's a Dell PowerApp Web 100 1U server.  The installer stops on the 
 'Partition Hard Disk' step, and won't go any further. I have checked 
 dmesg and the usual lines where it picks up on the scsi controller are gone.
   I think this might have something to do with the new kernel.  
   Previous attempts at installation got past this point, but they were .22 

In bug 230344, I reported that anna downloaded an incompatible
md-modules package.  Would you please check to see if it
downloaded an incompatible modules package by looking in
/var/lib/dpkg/status?

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Bug#230161: marked as done (Package: installation-reports)

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Debian-installer-version: 02-Jan-2004 17:50
/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-i386/current/images
uname -a: Linux debian 2.4.22-1-386 #9 Sat Oct 4 14:30:39 EST 2003 i686 unknown
Date: Jan 28, 2004 at 14:35 PST
Method: bootfloppy-image.img
 If network install, from where? ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/./testing
 Proxied? No
Machine: HP Kayak XU800MT
Processor: x86 Family 6 Model 8 Stepping 6
Memory: 256 MB
Root Device: SCSI QUANTUM ATLAS10K2-TY092L

Root Size/partition table:
cfdisk 2.12
Disk Drive: /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc
[...]
NameFlags   Part Type   FS Type Size (MB)
disc1   Primary Compaq diagnostics  16.46
disc2   Primary W95 FAT32 6456.85
disc3   BootPrimary Linux ext22500.49
disc4   Primary Linux swap 123.38
Output of lspci:
libpci.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

Base System Installation Checklist:
Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [ ]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[E]
Install boot loader:[ ]
Reboot: [ ]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems:
#tail /target/var/log/debootsrap.log
Errors were encountered while processing:
  libopencdk8
  libgnutls7
  exim4-daemon-light
  mailx
  at
  exim4
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Bug#230464: IBM Thinkpad R40e: fail - no keyboard response with 2.4.24 kernel

2004-01-30 Thread Leonard Norrgard
Package: installation-reports

Debian-installer-version: daily build, 2004-01-30 (unstable, sarge-i386-netinst.iso, 
118MB)
uname -a: n/a, but see comments
Date: 2004-01-31 03:00 EET
Method: Boot from CDRW in DVD-ROM drive (MATSHITADVD-ROM SR-8177-(SM)
Machine: IBM Thinkpad R40e
Processor: Mobile Intel Celeron 1993 MHz, L1 cache 8 KB, L2 cache 256 KB
Memory: 640MB
Root Device: n/a
Root Size/partition table: n/a
Output of lspci: n/a

Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [ ]
Config network: [ ]
Detect CD:  [ ]
Load installer modules: [ ]
Detect hard drives: [ ]
Partition hard drives:  [ ]
Create file systems:[ ]
Mount partitions:   [ ]
Install base system:[ ]
Install boot loader:[ ]
Reboot: [ ]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it
Comments/Problems:

No response to keyboard. It's not a USB keyboard (verified in Knoppix 3.3).
The kernel in the build is: 2.4.24-1-386 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) #1 Tue Jan 6 19:18:04 EST 
2004
A daily build from 2004-01-28 instead has a 2.4.22 kernel, where the keyboard works.
This older build still lacks the necessary net driver (module/kernel version mismatch)
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Bug#229756: marked as done (i386: sleep not found and awk file exist)

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Debian-installer-version: 
http://people.debian.org/cdimage/testing/netinst/i386/20040124/sarge-i386-businesscard.iso
uname -a: The result of running uname -a on a shell prompt
Date: 20040124
Method: I've tested linux and net method with sarge-i386-netinst.iso and 
I've tested linux and net method with sarge-i386-businesscard.iso

Machine: PC
Processor: Pentium III
Memory: 320Mb
Root Device: IDE disk (60Go)
Root Size/partition table:
Disque /dev/hda: 61.4 Go, 61492838400 octets
255 têtes, 63 secteurs/piste, 7476 cylindres
Unités = cylindres de 16065 * 512 = 8225280 octets

Périphérique Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1   *   1 973 7815591b  W95 FAT32
/dev/hda2 974541135648235b  W95 FAT32
/dev/hda354125800 3124642+  83  Linux
/dev/hda458017476134624705  Extended
/dev/hda558015922  979933+  83  Linux
/dev/hda659236895 7815591   83  Linux
/dev/hda768966992  779121   82  Linux swap
/dev/hda869937476 3887698+  83  Linux

Output of lspci:
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge 
(rev 03)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge (rev 
03)
00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02)
00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)
00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02)
00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. 
RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
00:0f.0 Multimedia audio controller: Yamaha Corporation YMF-724F [DS-1 Audio 
Controller] (rev 03)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 
400] (rev b2)


Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [ ]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[E]
Install boot loader:[ ]
Reboot: [ ]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems:
This problem looks like to the bug number 226105.

/dev/hda8 is /
/dev/hda5 is mounted under /var/cache/apt/archives

At 75% of installing the base system, I've got error 127
I look in /target/var/log/debootstrap.log :
Errors were encountened while processing :
libopencak8
libgnutls7
exim4-daemon-light
mailx
at
exim4
/usr/bin/debootstrap: 1: sleep: not found.

so, I have deleted sleep 1 in /usr/sbin/debootstrap and restarted, I wrote 
exit in the shell and the the installation base config begin again. The 
installation didn't work because of
the error in debootstrap.log:
ln /target/usr/bin/awk: 

Re: d-i first-stage configuration

2004-01-30 Thread Jeremie Koenig
On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 12:31:14PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
 What if we changed how some items on the main menu are displayed, so
 the short version (before the whole installer is loaded) looked
 something like this:
 
   Language:   English
   Country:United States
(...)
 languagechooser would continue to prompt at high priority, but
 the other items at the top of this menu would ask their questions at
 medium priority, and come up with reasonale defaults when possible.

I like it, and I've got some suggestion:

Add a new entry to language chooser reading something like Choose this
to proceed without internationalisation (LANG=C). When it is chosen,
make country-chooser disappair from the menu.

Make it the default (won't hurt anybody), and make the language question
priority high, so you can avoid it by booting at priority critical.
(nearly) Non-interactive basic installation could be made to work with
just a DHCP server and no seeding.

In order to implement this stuff (i may eventually try it), what about
adding two return codes to the menutest script. One for disappairing
from the menu (country-chooser when LANG=C). The other one would
indicate that the script has send to stdout :
- The menu item title to use;
- Debconf substitutions variable values to be used with the
  main-menu template.

This way, the resulting extended item titles could be translated with
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Re: categorising installation reports

2004-01-30 Thread Simon Hürlimann
Am Saturday 31 January 2004 01:57 schrieb Simon Hürlimann:
 Am Saturday 31 January 2004 00:41 schrieb Joey Hess:
  We have over 150 uncategorised installation reports now, and until
  they're processed, we can't really know what the worst problems are in
  beta 2. So I declare the next week to be installation report processing
  week. If you have some spare time anytime this week, process a couple of
  installation reports. Goal for next Friday is to process all
  installation reports reported in the past 30 days. If ten of us do five
  reports each this week, we should get within sight of this goal.

 I just began doing my five:-)
It's seven now I guess...
I closed mainly successfull installation reports and some about the #225741 
problem.

 But I need some hints:
 #230458 mentions Validating %s problems, I remember some messages about
 this on the list. But I don't know where to report this problem. Is this
 specific to some udebs or a general prolem? Do I have to ask the reporter
 for more infos?

 He also mentions to turn FB off by default. As I remember this can't be
 done 'cause of Japanese and other multibyte charsets. Is this correct?
One more question:
Some people complain about the locale not being correctly set. Where to bug 
about that? Language-, countrychooser or...?

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Bug#229034: marked as done (debian-installer worked OK)

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Package: installation-reports

INSTALL REPORT

Debian-installer-version: official sarge-i386-netinst.iso downloaded from
debian.org on 22/01/2004
uname -a: Linux sarge 2.4.22-1-386 #9 Sat Oct 4 14:30:39 EST 2003 i686
GNU/Linux
Date: 11:44 22/01/2004
Method: booted from CD

Machine: DELL OptiPlex GXa
Processor: Pentium II
Memory: 64 M
Root Device: IDE Maxtor 82160D2
Root Size/partition table:
   Units = cylinders of 4032 * 512 = 2064384 bytes

  Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
   /dev/hda1   *   1  48   96736+  83  Linux  /boot
   /dev/hda2  49 296  499968   82  Linux  swap
   /dev/hda3 2971023 1465632   83  Linuxi /

Output of lspci:
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440LX/EX - 82443LX/EX Host bridge (rev 03)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440LX/EX - 82443LX/EX AGP bridge (rev 03)
00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 01)
00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)
00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 01)
00:11.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905 100BaseTX [Boomerang]
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage Pro AGP 1X
(rev 5c)

Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[O]
Reboot: [O]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems: 
great job guys, specially appreciated the http proxy setting feature


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Bug#230463: invalid locale message

2004-01-30 Thread Kenshi Muto
At Fri, 30 Jan 2004 10:15:29 -0800,
Matt Kraai wrote:
 When I boot into stage 2, I see the following messages before
 base-config is displayed:
 
  termwrap: locale-gen: Generating locales...
  cannot open locale definition file `en_:en_US': No such file or directory
  termwrap: locale-gen:  en_:en_US.ISO-8859-1...warning: Current charset encoding 
 'ANSI_X3.4-1968' is unknown.  Using default terminal.

This sounds very bad.

It means LANG string is set 'en_:en_US', not 'en_US'.
LANG is grabbed by:

  DI_DB=/var/log/debian-installer/cdebconf/questions.dat
LANG=$(debconf-copydb d-i stdout \
-c Name:d-i -c Driver:File -c Filename:$DI_DB \
-c Name:stdout -c Driver:Pipe -c InFd:none \
--pattern='^debian-installer/locale$' |
   grep ^Value: | cut -d ' ' -f 2)

But something change occured about debian-installer/locale variable?

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Package: installation-reports

INSTALL REPORT

Debian-installer-version: 20040103 (according to the boot screen), downloaded
15/1/2004 from
http://people.debian.org/cdimage/testing/netinst/i386/beta2/sarge-i386-netinst.iso
uname -a: Linux brunel 2.4.22-1-386 #9 Sat Oct 4 14:30:39 EST 2003 i686 GNU/Linux
Date: Fri Jan 16 23:50:30 GMT 2004
Method: CD install (100MB CD image)

Machine: Toshiba Satellite 1110-Z14
Processor: Intel Celeron 1.5 GHz
Memory: 256 MB
Root Device: IDE /dev/hda6 (~20 GB)
Root Size/partition table:
   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1   1   18001   83  Linux
/dev/hda2   *   2133810739452+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/hda313392432 87875555  Extended
/dev/hda513392339 8040501   83  Linux
/dev/hda623402424  682731   83  Linux
/dev/hda724252432   64228+  82  Linux swap

/ mounted on /dev/hda6 (split existing swap space into hda6 and hda7)

Output of lspci:
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82845 845 (Brookdale) Chipset Host Bridge (rev 05)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82845 845 (Brookdale) Chipset AGP Bridge (rev 05)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM USB (Hub #1) (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM USB (Hub #2) (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BAM/CAM PCI Bridge (rev 42)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801CAM ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 02)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801CAM IDE U100 (rev 02)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM SMBus Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Audio Controller 
(rev 02)
00:1f.6 Modem: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 02)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY
02:01.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ 
(rev 10)
02:04.0 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ6933 Cardbus Controller (rev 01)
02:04.1 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ6933 Cardbus Controller (rev 01)

Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[O]
Reboot: [O]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems:
Installer worked well and swiftly; well done! Just one minor comment: 
the boot loader screen has `Copyright (C) 1993-2003' - shouldn't that be
2004 now?

I later tried out the Italian and French translations, which seemed fine
apart from a couple of minor bits:

ITALIAN - `Configurare e montare le partizioni' - backslashes in front 
of double quotes (i.e. some escaping gone wrong) + corrupted text in
filesystem selection dialog and the following dialog or two, possibly a
result of typos when putting accents in.

FRENCH - `Configurer et monter des partitions' - too many accents in the
word `crees' 

Re: d-i first-stage configuration

2004-01-30 Thread Jeremie Koenig
On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 03:03:57AM +0100, Jeremie Koenig wrote:
 ... two return codes to the menutest script. One for disappairing from
 the menu (country-chooser when LANG=C).

I'v just seen that this one is already implemented with isinstallable.

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