arm (not armel) d-i buildd is over

2009-02-15 Thread Kenshi Muto
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Hi,

Happy Lenny release, thanks everyone who have contributed for this
release :)

As release-note said, old arm architecture is completely replaced by
armel. Hereby I'll shutdown my old-arm d-i buildd and make this machine
retired.

Thanks,
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Bug#515249: installation-reports: Various issues on IBM Power5 (lvm, multipath, yaboot.conf)

2009-02-15 Thread Paul McEnery
Package: installation-reports
Severity: grave
Justification: renders package unusable



-- Package-specific info:

Boot method: Network boot using a TFTP server
Image version: 
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/main/installer-powerpc/current/images/powerpc64/netboot/vmlinuz-chrp.initrd
 ** see note below
Date: Sat Feb 14 21:00:00 GMT 2009

Machine: IBM,9117-570 (pSeries)
Partitions:

Machine: IBM,9117-570 (pSeries)
Partitions:

* sfdisk -d /dev/mapper/mpath0

# partition table of /dev/mapper/mpath0
unit: sectors

/dev/mapper/mpath0p1 : start=   63, size=16002, Id=41, bootable
/dev/mapper/mpath0p2 : start=16065, size=   498015, Id=83
/dev/mapper/mpath0p3 : start=   514080, size= 66589425, Id=8e
/dev/mapper/mpath0p4 : start=0, size=0, Id= 0



Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot:   [E]
Detect network card:[O]
Configure network:  [O]
Detect CD:  [ ]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [E]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Install base system:[O]
Clock/timezone setup:   [O]
User/password setup:[O]
Install tasks:  [ ]
Install boot loader:[O]
Overall install:[E]

Comments/Problems:

Initial boot: Maybe not soe much an error, I had to specify the
  console at the boot prompt console=hvc0,38400

Detect had drives: During an attempt to reinstall after a failed
   install, I had to drop to a shell and remove
   any existing logical volumes before the
   disk detection process was able to detect
   the hard drive. Otherwise, it simply told
   me that there were not hard drives...

Overall install:

* Although the URL above is for the SID installer, when the
install was complete, I noticed that LENNY had been installed.
I noticed this by looking at the /etc/apt/sources.list file.

Other issues that I was not particularly happy with were:

1.
Selecting guided LVM allowed a the root filesystem to be
placed in a logical volume (which I wanted), but then the
yaboot.conf file was still writted to /etc/yaboot.conf.
I had to manually rescue the system after the install and
move /etc/yaboot.conf to /boot/etc/yaboot.conf. In my view
LVM is going to be the way forward and this configuration
file should not been located on the root filesystem. I
hope everyone is aware of this issue and has looked at
keeping files required to boot the system in /boot

2.
After fixing the location of the yaboot.conf file, the
system refused to boot. It was trying to boot the label
old which was invalid because the kernel has not yet
been upgraded. I therefore had to add the following to
the yaboot.conf before the correct default entry would
boot:

defaultos=Linux


3.
I also had issues with multipath root and LVM:

3.1
I had to add multipath to the lvm2 PREREQ's in order
for multipath to be started before LVM.

3.2
Debian installer was called with:

disk-detect/multipath/enable=true

However, once the install had completed, the lvm.conf
was not configured to filter out the underlying SCSI
devices. I had to add the following filter:

filter = [ r/disk/, r/sd.*/, a/.*/ ]


After rebuilding the initramfs (above two changes
commited), it all worked quite nicely ;)



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Installer lsb-release:
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DISTRIB_ID=Debian
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION=Debian GNU/Linux installer
DISTRIB_RELEASE=5.0 (lenny) - installer build 20090123
X_INSTALLATION_MEDIUM=netboot

==
Installer hardware-summary:
==
umame -a: Linux rootvg 2.6.26-1-powerpc64 #1 SMP Sat Jan 10 14:42:07 CET 2009 
ppc64 unknown
lsmod: Module  Size  Used by
lsmod: ufs   103184  0 
lsmod: hfsplus   104520  0 
lsmod: hfs72464  0 
lsmod: md_mod119108  0 
lsmod: xfs   732616  0 
lsmod: reiserfs  334652  0 
lsmod: jfs   234180  0 
lsmod: ext3  187856  5 
lsmod: jbd79760  1 ext3
lsmod: vfat   20560  0 
lsmod: fat76656  1 vfat
lsmod: nls_base   15356  5 hfsplus,hfs,jfs,vfat,fat
lsmod: ext2  103952  1 
lsmod: mbcache16884  2 ext3,ext2
lsmod: dm_emc 11648  0 
lsmod: dm_round_robin  9176  1 
lsmod: dm_multipath   31816  3 dm_emc,dm_round_robin
lsmod: dm_mod 95016  21 dm_multipath
lsmod: sd_mod 3  2 
lsmod: ibmvscsic

Re: networking problems debian-armel-5.0rc2.zip

2009-02-15 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Jeff F email.f...@gmail.com [2009-02-12 12:28]:
 I followed instructions to remove hotplug from interfaces and ensured
 auto eth0 is present, made sure the symlink was present, and reviewed
 fstab -- which ended up being changed to the below -- why I do not
 know, nor if it is remotely correct with the UUID it chose. I've tried
 going back to what I thought was in my original fstab with no success
 as well as removed fsck check and still no love.

Well, you made so many modifications that it's hard to say which one
broke it.  I suggest you make a new installation and then make one
modification, reobot the machine, make another modification, etc.
This should pin down the problem.
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Re: arm (not armel) d-i buildd is over

2009-02-15 Thread Jérémy Bobbio
On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 06:20:12PM +0900, Kenshi Muto wrote:
 As release-note said, old arm architecture is completely replaced by
 armel. Hereby I'll shutdown my old-arm d-i buildd and make this machine
 retired.

Thanks for having taken care of it all along. :)

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Why it tried connection, since I just install CD1

2009-02-15 Thread abdelkader belahcene
Hi,
I am happy that the lenny is released,
but  Why it tried connection, since I just install CD1, I have no connection
to internet, it took a long time to install because it tried to download I
don't know what.

I switched  to terminal 2 (ctrl+alt+f2) I noticed http process is running ??

I hope that the connection will be disabled

Thanks for help
bela


Bug#515298: allow preseeding of security directory

2009-02-15 Thread Robert Millan
Package: apt-setup
Severity: wishlist
Tags: patch

This patch makes it possible to preseed the security directory, so that it can
be something other than / (useful in combination with apt-setup/security_host).

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 5.0
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.18-6-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=ca_AD.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=ca_AD.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Index: generators/91security
===
--- generators/91security	(revision 56524)
+++ generators/91security	(working copy)
@@ -14,6 +14,12 @@
 host=$RET
 [ $host ] || exit
 
+if db_get apt-setup/security_directory  [ $RET ]; then
+	directory=$RET
+else
+	directory=/
+fi
+
 if ! db_get mirror/codename || [ -z $RET ]; then
 	db_get cdrom/codename
 fi
@@ -29,7 +35,7 @@
 done
 
 # Don't test mirror if no network selected in netcfg
-echo deb http://$host/ $codename/updates $dists  $file
+echo deb http://$host$directory $codename/updates $dists  $file
 if db_get netcfg/dhcp_options  \
[ $RET = Do not configure the network at this time ]; then
 	CODE=9
@@ -46,6 +52,6 @@
 	fi
 fi
 
-echo deb-src http://$host/ $codename/updates $dists  $file
+echo deb-src http://$host$directory $codename/updates $dists  $file
 
 exit $CODE


Re: arm (not armel) d-i buildd is over

2009-02-15 Thread Martin Michlmayr
This also raises the question what to do about arm, i.e. whether we
can remove support for arm from the kernel, installer and other
packages.  Riku and Aurelien initially agreed to remove it, but then
Riku pointed out that we may have to keep support around in sid if arm
wants to take part in lenny+half.

I think it makes sense to support arm for lenny+half in terms of the
kernel upgrade, but not for the installer (since we don't want any new
installations of arm anyway).

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win32-loader does not support my Wi-Fi adapter.

2009-02-15 Thread Evil Genius


Win32-loader does not support Atheros AR5007EG. It is present in list as  
wifi0 but I can not connect with my router. I have been tried different  
modes (WEP, WPA, no password) but it is not work.



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Bug#274695: marked as done (Detect serial console on ARM and show console= entry)

2009-02-15 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System

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and subject line ARM/Netwinder no longer supported
has caused the Debian Bug report #274695,
regarding Detect serial console on ARM and show console= entry
to be marked as done.

This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with.
If this is not the case it is now your responsibility to reopen the
Bug report if necessary, and/or fix the problem forthwith.

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Package: nobootloader
Version: 1.00
Severity: wishlist

At the moment, the following is shown on arm/netwinder:

| setenv cmdappend root=/dev/hda2

However, if the serial console is used for install, this should be

| setenv cmdappend root=/dev/hda2 console=ttyS0,115200

nobootloader should recognize whether serial console is used and show
the right informatioon.
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---BeginMessage---
ARM/Netwinder is no longer supported after lenny, so I'm closing this
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Re: [RFCi,patch] Consolidate arm partitioning

2009-02-15 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Riku Voipio riku.voi...@iki.fi [2008-08-23 00:05]:
 All *supported* arm/armel platforms use msdos for hard disks[1], and
 any modern arm system would too. So I suggest defaulting to msdos,
 and adding any exceptions if found.

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Re: arm (not armel) d-i buildd is over

2009-02-15 Thread Luk Claes
Martin Michlmayr wrote:
 This also raises the question what to do about arm, i.e. whether we
 can remove support for arm from the kernel, installer and other
 packages.  Riku and Aurelien initially agreed to remove it, but then
 Riku pointed out that we may have to keep support around in sid if arm
 wants to take part in lenny+half.
 
 I think it makes sense to support arm for lenny+half in terms of the
 kernel upgrade, but not for the installer (since we don't want any new
 installations of arm anyway).
 
 Any opinions?

Why would we want to add support for new arm hardware if not for new
installations?

Cheers

Luk


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Re: arm (not armel) d-i buildd is over

2009-02-15 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Luk Claes l...@debian.org [2009-02-15 17:24]:
 Why would we want to add support for new arm hardware if not for new
 installations?

Not new hardware, but a new kernel may have performance enhancements
that may be of interest to existing arm users.

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Re: arm (not armel) d-i buildd is over

2009-02-15 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 15 February 2009, Kenshi Muto wrote:
 As release-note said, old arm architecture is completely replaced by
 armel. Hereby I'll shutdown my old-arm d-i buildd and make this machine
 retired.

I've removed arm from the D-I project page and also from the daily builds 
overview and testing-summary.

Cheers,
FJP


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Re: arm (not armel) d-i buildd is over

2009-02-15 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 15 February 2009, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
 This also raises the question what to do about arm, i.e. whether we
 can remove support for arm from the kernel, installer and other
 packages.  Riku and Aurelien initially agreed to remove it, but then
 Riku pointed out that we may have to keep support around in sid if arm
 wants to take part in lenny+half.

 I think it makes sense to support arm for lenny+half in terms of the
 kernel upgrade, but not for the installer (since we don't want any new
 installations of arm anyway).

As we used the *Lenny* installer for Etch-n-half, supporting new installs 
for Lenny-n-half would not be possible anyway (assuming we'd use the same 
setup, and I currently don't see any reason why not) as it will just be 
impossible to build the installer for arm in Squeeze.

I suggest completely removing any trace of arm from D-I SVN.


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Re: GTK+ update proposal for stable

2009-02-15 Thread Philipp Kern
On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 05:28:02PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
 Now that we have the hands more free, I’d like to propose GTK+ 2.12.12
 for a lenny point release. We’ve received some requests to upgrade to
 this bugfix-only release, fixing a number of issues that you’re likely
 to hit with the 2.12.11 version currently in lenny, including several
 crashers.

Ok, please go ahead.  Thanks for contacting us that early so that it
spends plenty of time in proposed-updates.  We will see what d-i
testing with the new binaries will bring us.

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Re: GTK+ update proposal for stable

2009-02-15 Thread Otavio Salvador
Philipp Kern pk...@debian.org writes:

 On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 05:28:02PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
 Now that we have the hands more free, I’d like to propose GTK+ 2.12.12
 for a lenny point release. We’ve received some requests to upgrade to
 this bugfix-only release, fixing a number of issues that you’re likely
 to hit with the 2.12.11 version currently in lenny, including several
 crashers.

 Ok, please go ahead.  Thanks for contacting us that early so that it
 spends plenty of time in proposed-updates.  We will see what d-i
 testing with the new binaries will bring us.

In this case Josselin, please contact us at debian-boot once you've
prepared the packages and binaries (it wasn't clear from your message if
you consider current ones ready) so we can start testing them.

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Re: arm (not armel) d-i buildd is over

2009-02-15 Thread Otavio Salvador
Frans Pop elen...@planet.nl writes:

 On Sunday 15 February 2009, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
 This also raises the question what to do about arm, i.e. whether we
 can remove support for arm from the kernel, installer and other
 packages.  Riku and Aurelien initially agreed to remove it, but then
 Riku pointed out that we may have to keep support around in sid if arm
 wants to take part in lenny+half.

 I think it makes sense to support arm for lenny+half in terms of the
 kernel upgrade, but not for the installer (since we don't want any new
 installations of arm anyway).

 As we used the *Lenny* installer for Etch-n-half, supporting new installs 
 for Lenny-n-half would not be possible anyway (assuming we'd use the same 
 setup, and I currently don't see any reason why not) as it will just be 
 impossible to build the installer for arm in Squeeze.

 I suggest completely removing any trace of arm from D-I SVN.

I'm at same path as Frans.

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Bug#515298: allow preseeding of security directory

2009-02-15 Thread Otavio Salvador
Robert Millan r...@aybabtu.com writes:

 Package: apt-setup
 Severity: wishlist
 Tags: patch

 This patch makes it possible to preseed the security directory, so that it can
 be something other than / (useful in combination with 
 apt-setup/security_host).

I think it is a nice thing to be added however could you prepare a patch
to the manual about it?

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Bug#515298: allow preseeding of security directory

2009-02-15 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 15 February 2009, Otavio Salvador wrote:
 Robert Millan r...@aybabtu.com writes:
  This patch makes it possible to preseed the security directory, so
  that it can be something other than / (useful in combination with
  apt-setup/security_host).

 I think it is a nice thing to be added however could you prepare a
 patch to the manual about it?

IMO the debconf template should also formally be added in the correct 
apt-setup templates file. If that is done the default can be set there 
instead of using an ugly if statement in the code.

Also, why do this for security, but not for volatile?

IIRC there were already open BRs for this. Not sure if any of them had 
patches.



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Bug#515298: allow preseeding of security directory

2009-02-15 Thread Otavio Salvador
Frans Pop elen...@planet.nl writes:

 On Sunday 15 February 2009, Otavio Salvador wrote:
 Robert Millan r...@aybabtu.com writes:
  This patch makes it possible to preseed the security directory, so
  that it can be something other than / (useful in combination with
  apt-setup/security_host).

 I think it is a nice thing to be added however could you prepare a
 patch to the manual about it?

 IMO the debconf template should also formally be added in the correct 
 apt-setup templates file. If that is done the default can be set there 
 instead of using an ugly if statement in the code.

 Also, why do this for security, but not for volatile?

 IIRC there were already open BRs for this. Not sure if any of them had 
 patches.

Indeed. #492937 is related to this. Not exactly same thing but we could
maybe merge it and handle it together. Comments?

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Re: GTK+ update proposal for stable

2009-02-15 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 15 février 2009 à 15:36 -0300, Otavio Salvador a écrit :
 Philipp Kern pk...@debian.org writes:
  Ok, please go ahead.  Thanks for contacting us that early so that it
  spends plenty of time in proposed-updates.  We will see what d-i
  testing with the new binaries will bring us.
 
 In this case Josselin, please contact us at debian-boot once you've
 prepared the packages and binaries (it wasn't clear from your message if
 you consider current ones ready) so we can start testing them.

I don’t have anything right now that I’d like to put in these packages,
so the thing they need the most is testing. I can upload them to s-p-u
as soon as you want.

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Re: arm (not armel) d-i buildd is over

2009-02-15 Thread Bill Gatliff

Martin Michlmayr wrote:

This also raises the question what to do about arm, i.e. whether we
can remove support for arm from the kernel, installer and other
packages.  Riku and Aurelien initially agreed to remove it, but then
Riku pointed out that we may have to keep support around in sid if arm
wants to take part in lenny+half.

I think it makes sense to support arm for lenny+half in terms of the
kernel upgrade, but not for the installer (since we don't want any new
installations of arm anyway).
  


That would make it a lot easier for  existing deployments, yes.


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[RFC] Script to build installer from SVN

2009-02-15 Thread Otavio Salvador
Hello,

Two weeks ago I ahd some time free and started to write a script to
build debian-installer using SVN sources.

The script itself is not yet (it still lacks debian-installer building)
but it already does a good job for rest of packages.

To allow people to take a look at it, and improve it if desired, I added
it to a GIT repository:

https://projetos.ossystems.com.br/git/?p=users/otavio/svn-daily-builder.git;a=summary

It is quite far from ready yet but I'm more insterested to know what
people things about it and how we could improve it to later adopt it.

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Re: [RFC] Script to build installer from SVN

2009-02-15 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 15 February 2009, Otavio Salvador wrote:
 The script itself is not yet (it still lacks debian-installer building)
 but it already does a good job for rest of packages.

Have you ever looked at scripts/buildscript?


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Re: Uploading GNOME 2.24 to sid

2009-02-15 Thread Otavio Salvador
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes:

 Le dimanche 15 février 2009 à 15:00 -0300, Otavio Salvador a écrit :
* Broken graphical installer, until someone updates our GTK+
  DirectFB patches
 ...
  Is all of that OK with the release team?
 
 - From d-i POV this is a serious issue since we will not allowed to test
 the graphical installer. I'd much prefer to hold it until the DirectFB
 patches are ready.

 And who will provide these patches? No one has been working on GTK+
 DirectFB for a long time. 

[ I've added debian-boot ml to CC ]

I understand that you wish to update GNOME, specially GTK, in unstable
but I think this can't make installer broken as a conseguence.

Your comment fears me even more since it does look that we can end up
without directfb support for long time... I think you agree with me that
Graphical Installer can't be droped from Debian without a lot of people
being unhappy and tagging it as a really serious regression for user POV
so having it in mind I believe we need to find an alternative for it.

Who was last people that worked at those patches? Could them help us on
that?

In case they can't, do we have someone interested to work at it inside
of GNOME/GTK/Debian GNOME team?

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Re: GTK+ update proposal for stable

2009-02-15 Thread Otavio Salvador
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes:

 Le dimanche 15 février 2009 à 15:36 -0300, Otavio Salvador a écrit :
 Philipp Kern pk...@debian.org writes:
  Ok, please go ahead.  Thanks for contacting us that early so that it
  spends plenty of time in proposed-updates.  We will see what d-i
  testing with the new binaries will bring us.
 
 In this case Josselin, please contact us at debian-boot once you've
 prepared the packages and binaries (it wasn't clear from your message if
 you consider current ones ready) so we can start testing them.

 I don’t have anything right now that I’d like to put in these packages,
 so the thing they need the most is testing. I can upload them to s-p-u
 as soon as you want.

If SRM do not object I think it would be nice to have them there ASAP so
we can start testing them.

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Re: Uploading GNOME 2.24 to sid

2009-02-15 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 15 février 2009 à 17:05 -0300, Otavio Salvador a écrit :
 Your comment fears me even more since it does look that we can end up
 without directfb support for long time... I think you agree with me that
 Graphical Installer can't be droped from Debian without a lot of people
 being unhappy and tagging it as a really serious regression for user POV
 so having it in mind I believe we need to find an alternative for it.

Unless you can find someone who is committed to make GTK+ work on the
DirectFB backend, I strongly recommend that the installer considers
using X11 instead. 

 Who was last people that worked at those patches? Could them help us on
 that?

Attilio Fiandrotti did a great job with GTK+ 2.10, but didn’t give much
news since. 

 In case they can't, do we have someone interested to work at it inside
 of GNOME/GTK/Debian GNOME team?

I don’t think so, but of course any help is welcome.

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Re: New newt terminal plugin

2009-02-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 01:31:29PM +0100, Jérémy Bobbio wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 05:07:57PM +, Colin Watson wrote:
   * Much more significantly, though, newt is probably already displaying a
   * window. In order to do a good enough job to be able to run a full-screen
   * curses application such as aptitude, we need to tell it to tear
   * everything down, and then we need to put it all back so that it doesn't
   * look dreadful when we exit (particularly if e.g. a progress bar is being
   * displayed).
 
 The GTK+ plugin probably does not handle this properly and would require
 some adjustments…

You mean with the progress bar, or something else? I confess I haven't
actually looked, but I'd have thought that the GTK+ plugin creates a new
window and so doesn't suffer from any of these problems.

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Re: [RFC] Script to build installer from SVN

2009-02-15 Thread Otavio Salvador
Frans Pop elen...@planet.nl writes:

 On Sunday 15 February 2009, Otavio Salvador wrote:
 The script itself is not yet (it still lacks debian-installer building)
 but it already does a good job for rest of packages.

 Have you ever looked at scripts/buildscript?

Yes but mine uses cowbuilder to do all the work also tries to catch the
architecture compatibility by itself.

As I told, it is not yet ready but is already a good start and once I
have time again I plan to finish it.

What cons you see about the use of cowbuilder? 

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Re: r57544 - in trunk/packages/cdebconf: debian src/modules/frontend/newt

2009-02-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 01:28:33PM +0100, Jérémy Bobbio wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 04:44:53PM +, Colin Watson wrote:
  Export a new cdebconf_newt_get_progress_info function so that
  cdebconf-newt-terminal can reinitialise progress bars (since there's no
  progress_info member in struct frontend, and it won't fit in the obvious
  place without breaking the plugin ABI).
 
 Is changing the plugin ABI a real issue so early in the new release
 cycle?

I don't like doing it, especially as we don't have a mechanism to notify
about breakage at the packaging level (SONAME or Provides:
cdebconf-plugin-abi-1 or whatever).

 As far as I know, you are the only maintainer of an out-of-tree plugin,

As far as I know too, but we have no way to know for sure ...

 and if doing an ABI change makes the code cleaner, I think we should do
 it.  I might have overlooked something, though…

If the new code had been really horrible, then of course I'd be
considering doing an ABI change. In this case I think the ugliness is
pretty minor, though, and is justified by avoiding even a relatively
small amount of hassle.

In any case, I actually think the *current* interface is kind of ugly.
Poking around inside struct frontend with things like
obj-methods.can_go_back() ... well, let's say it's not my favourite
style of interface and ultimately I'd rather that we used accessor
functions anyway. As such, I don't feel too bad about using an accessor
function here.

I haven't yet thought of any case where anything other than newt would
need this. If we do think of one, then we can always just say that we
postponed an ABI change until that point, and do it then; nothing lost.

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Re: Uploading GNOME 2.24 to sid

2009-02-15 Thread Otavio Salvador
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes:

 Le dimanche 15 février 2009 à 17:05 -0300, Otavio Salvador a écrit :
 Your comment fears me even more since it does look that we can end up
 without directfb support for long time... I think you agree with me that
 Graphical Installer can't be droped from Debian without a lot of people
 being unhappy and tagging it as a really serious regression for user POV
 so having it in mind I believe we need to find an alternative for it.

 Unless you can find someone who is committed to make GTK+ work on the
 DirectFB backend, I strongly recommend that the installer considers
 using X11 instead. 

 Who was last people that worked at those patches? Could them help us on
 that?

 Attilio Fiandrotti did a great job with GTK+ 2.10, but didn’t give much
 news since. 

Hello Attilio,

We've having a bad time with GTK DirectFB support for lastest GTK
release; are you still interested to work on it with us?

TIA,

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Re: Uploading GNOME 2.24 to sid

2009-02-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 05:05:35PM -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote:
 Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes:
  Le dimanche 15 février 2009 à 15:00 -0300, Otavio Salvador a écrit :
 * Broken graphical installer, until someone updates our GTK+
   DirectFB patches
  ...
   Is all of that OK with the release team?
  
  - From d-i POV this is a serious issue since we will not allowed to test
  the graphical installer. I'd much prefer to hold it until the DirectFB
  patches are ready.
 
  And who will provide these patches? No one has been working on GTK+
  DirectFB for a long time. 
 
 [ I've added debian-boot ml to CC ]
 
 I understand that you wish to update GNOME, specially GTK, in unstable
 but I think this can't make installer broken as a conseguence.
 
 Your comment fears me even more since it does look that we can end up
 without directfb support for long time... I think you agree with me that
 Graphical Installer can't be droped from Debian without a lot of people
 being unhappy and tagging it as a really serious regression for user POV
 so having it in mind I believe we need to find an alternative for it.
 
 Who was last people that worked at those patches? Could them help us on
 that?

There are some patches that haven't yet been applied upstream that might
help. See for example http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=554407;
IIRC GdkWindowImpl is the main change that the directfb backend hasn't
followed.

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Re: Uploading GNOME 2.24 to sid

2009-02-15 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 09:13:33PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
 Unless you can find someone who is committed to make GTK+ work on the
 DirectFB backend, I strongly recommend that the installer considers
 using X11 instead. 

Can you do a size estimate for this? It would need in addition
- the X server,
- evdev input module and
- a framebuffer video module.

Anything else?

Bastian

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Re: Uploading GNOME 2.24 to sid

2009-02-15 Thread Julien BLACHE
Bastian Blank wa...@debian.org wrote:

Hi,

 Can you do a size estimate for this? It would need in addition
 - the X server,
 - evdev input module and
 - a framebuffer video module.

 Anything else?

HAL and DBus to go with input-evdev, I guess?

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Processing of cdebconf_0.139_i386.changes

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Processed: Re: debian-installer: Rescue mode: terminal 'bterm' doesn't play nice with some apps in rescue shell

2009-02-15 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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 reassign 412168 di-utils
Bug#412168: debian-installer: Rescue mode: terminal 'bterm' doesn't play nice 
with some apps in rescue shell
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Bug#412168: debian-installer: Rescue mode: terminal 'bterm' doesn't play nice with some apps in rescue shell

2009-02-15 Thread Colin Watson
reassign 412168 di-utils
thanks

On Sat, Feb 24, 2007 at 07:44:20AM +0100, Alain Kalker wrote:
 After booting into rescue mode and starting a shell in my root 
 partition from the menu, the grub shell and some other 
 tools messed up my screen, probably because the terminal type 'bterm' 
 wasn't fully supported.
 'man' (using 'more' as pager, I think) complained about some terminal 
 functions probably not working correctly, while the grub shell overwrote 
 much of its own output, making it mostly unusable.

We should be able to fix this now that cdebconf-newt-terminal exists and
does most of the work necessary to provide the chroot with a working
terminfo file for bterm. I'm reassigning this over to di-utils, which
needs to make use of that new plugin in order to fix this bug.

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cdebconf-terminal_0.3_i386.changes is NEW

2009-02-15 Thread Debian Installer
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cdebconf newt plugin to provide a clean terminal
 cdebconf plugin to run a program in a clean terminal environment, shutting
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Re: Uploading GNOME 2.24 to sid

2009-02-15 Thread Luis Matos
Dom, 2009-02-15 às 22:14 +0100, Bastian Blank escreveu:
 On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 09:13:33PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
  Unless you can find someone who is committed to make GTK+ work on the
  DirectFB backend, I strongly recommend that the installer considers
  using X11 instead. 
 
 Can you do a size estimate for this? It would need in addition
 - the X server,
 - evdev input module and
 - a framebuffer video module.
 
humm ... i am just a dumb debian user, but, besides the size, the gtk
direct framebuffer implementation was made also because of performance
issues related with having the Xserver loaded, right? (not only because
disk space)



 Anything else?
 
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dmraid 1.0.0.rc15-1

2009-02-15 Thread Giuseppe Iuculano
Hi,

I'm going to upload dmraid 1.0.0.rc15-1 in unstable.

Relevant changes for d-i:

- Build dmraid shared library for both standard and udeb packages. It will
likely be used in the future by udev.
- Create new packages, libdmraid-dev, libdmraid1.0.0.rc15,
libdmraid1.0.0.rc15-udeb respectively
- Install /sbin/dmraid-activate[1] also in dmraid-udeb package
- debian/patches/10_exit_code.patch: Fix exit-code[2] for No RAID disks and
no block devices found errors (LP: #300825)


Is all of that ok?


[1]dmraid-activate is a script to bring up dmraid arrays, checking whether all
raid disks for the array are present before doing so. Dmraid itself has no
option to not bring up degraded arrays.

[2]The installer greps 'dmraid -c -s' output for No RAID disks in various
places to determine whether any SATA RAID disks are present. This is a poor
approach because it depends on human-readable output. Fixing the exit-code, the
installer could use it to detect SATA RAID disks.

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Re: dmraid 1.0.0.rc15-1

2009-02-15 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 16 February 2009, Giuseppe Iuculano wrote:
 Relevant changes for d-i:
 - Build dmraid shared library for both standard and udeb packages. It
 will likely be used in the future by udev.
 - Create new packages, libdmraid-dev, libdmraid1.0.0.rc15,
 libdmraid1.0.0.rc15-udeb respectively
 - Install /sbin/dmraid-activate[1] also in dmraid-udeb package
 - debian/patches/10_exit_code.patch: Fix exit-code[2] for No RAID
 disks and no block devices found errors (LP: #300825)

 Is all of that ok?

Are any changes in D-I needed?

At least the last change [1] means that we can now simplify and improve 
the code. Can you provide patches for that? It would also close #433579.

Cheers,
FJP

[1] I discussed that issue with dmraid upstream at some point [2], but 
they did not even seem to understand the issue. Will that change be 
pushed upstream now? IMO it is an important fix, but not one where you 
really want to diverge from upstream.
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Re: Uploading GNOME 2.24 to sid

2009-02-15 Thread Otavio Salvador
Bastian Blank wa...@debian.org writes:

 On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 09:13:33PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
 Unless you can find someone who is committed to make GTK+ work on the
 DirectFB backend, I strongly recommend that the installer considers
 using X11 instead. 

 Can you do a size estimate for this? It would need in addition
 - the X server,
 - evdev input module and
 - a framebuffer video module.

 Anything else?

Few libraries like libx11 and such. Another possibility would be to use
kdrive but it is not well supported as Xorg.

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Re: Uploading GNOME 2.24 to sid

2009-02-15 Thread Otavio Salvador
Luis Matos g...@otiliamatos.ath.cx writes:

 Dom, 2009-02-15 às 22:14 +0100, Bastian Blank escreveu:
 On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 09:13:33PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
  Unless you can find someone who is committed to make GTK+ work on the
  DirectFB backend, I strongly recommend that the installer considers
  using X11 instead. 
 
 Can you do a size estimate for this? It would need in addition
 - the X server,
 - evdev input module and
 - a framebuffer video module.
 
 humm ... i am just a dumb debian user, but, besides the size, the gtk
 direct framebuffer implementation was made also because of performance
 issues related with having the Xserver loaded, right? (not only because
 disk space)

I fear that if no one step ahead to maintain the directfb backend we'll
end without any other option.

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Re: dmraid 1.0.0.rc15-1

2009-02-15 Thread Otavio Salvador
Giuseppe Iuculano giuse...@iuculano.it writes:

 Hi,

 I'm going to upload dmraid 1.0.0.rc15-1 in unstable.

 Relevant changes for d-i:

 - Build dmraid shared library for both standard and udeb packages. It will
 likely be used in the future by udev.
 - Create new packages, libdmraid-dev, libdmraid1.0.0.rc15,
 libdmraid1.0.0.rc15-udeb respectively
 - Install /sbin/dmraid-activate[1] also in dmraid-udeb package
 - debian/patches/10_exit_code.patch: Fix exit-code[2] for No RAID disks and
 no block devices found errors (LP: #300825)


 Is all of that ok?

Is the API/ABI so unstable that you're using the version on the library
package name?

I'd much prefer it packaged as:

 dmraid
 dmraid-udeb
 libdmraid-1.0
 libdmraid-1.0-udeb
 libdmraid-dev

Any reason to avoid the usual packaging schema for it?
 
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Re: Uploading GNOME 2.24 to sid

2009-02-15 Thread Jérémy Bobbio
On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 10:04:10PM -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote:
  On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 09:13:33PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
   Unless you can find someone who is committed to make GTK+ work on the
   DirectFB backend, I strongly recommend that the installer considers
   using X11 instead. 
 […] 
 I fear that if no one step ahead to maintain the directfb backend we'll
 end without any other option.

Excecutive summary:
  Solving this issue is DirectFB maintainers responsability.

Denis Oliver Kropp (DirectFB upstream) regularily works on patches to
update the DirectFB backend for GTK+, as the archives of the
directfb-dev mailling-list shows.

I am unsure on how well these patches get integrated in GTK+ upstream,
but they do exists.  DirectFB itself needs to be updated for Squeeze, and
IIRC, the last versions of GTK+/DirectFB do not work with the version of
DirectFB currently in Lenny/Sid.

So the first step to solve this is IMHO to look more closely at the
status of DirectFB librairies and backends; and this should probably be
done by DirectFB maintainers.

Depending on how easy it would be to update DirectFB before GTK+, it
could make sense to delay the introduction of the newer GTK+ version to
keep the graphical installer available…

However, if nothing is ready by now, breaking the graphical installer
for a few weeks is something that can IMHO be considered in such early
stages of the release cycle.

(And switching to X11 is a no-no, except if huge amount of people shows
 up right now to undertake of the massive amount of work required.)

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Re: New newt terminal plugin

2009-02-15 Thread Jérémy Bobbio
On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 08:26:23PM +, Colin Watson wrote:
 On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 01:31:29PM +0100, Jérémy Bobbio wrote:
  On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 05:07:57PM +, Colin Watson wrote:
* Much more significantly, though, newt is probably already displaying a
* window. In order to do a good enough job to be able to run a 
   full-screen
* curses application such as aptitude, we need to tell it to tear
* everything down, and then we need to put it all back so that it doesn't
* look dreadful when we exit (particularly if e.g. a progress bar is 
   being
* displayed).
  
  The GTK+ plugin probably does not handle this properly and would require
  some adjustments…
 
 You mean with the progress bar, or something else? I confess I haven't
 actually looked, but I'd have thought that the GTK+ plugin creates a new
 window and so doesn't suffer from any of these problems.

I meant being called during a progress, yes.  I am unsure on how the
plugin will react… but we'll figure out once you will have made progress
on re-adding support for manual package selection. :)

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Re: r57544 - in trunk/packages/cdebconf: debian src/modules/frontend/newt

2009-02-15 Thread Jérémy Bobbio
On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 08:31:47PM +, Colin Watson wrote:
 On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 01:28:33PM +0100, Jérémy Bobbio wrote:
  On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 04:44:53PM +, Colin Watson wrote:
   Export a new cdebconf_newt_get_progress_info function so that
   cdebconf-newt-terminal can reinitialise progress bars (since there's no
   progress_info member in struct frontend, and it won't fit in the obvious
   place without breaking the plugin ABI).
  
  Is changing the plugin ABI a real issue so early in the new release
  cycle?
 
 I don't like doing it, especially as we don't have a mechanism to notify
 about breakage at the packaging level (SONAME or Provides:
 cdebconf-plugin-abi-1 or whatever).

Actually, if the ingenious mind of yours comes up with something
sensible to solve this issue, don't hesitate to go forward.  This has
scratched me numerous times already.
 
 […] 
 I haven't yet thought of any case where anything other than newt would
 need this. If we do think of one, then we can always just say that we
 postponed an ABI change until that point, and do it then; nothing lost.

Well said.  Thanks for your explainations.  :)

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Re: r57572 - in trunk/installer: build/pkg-lists/cdrom build/pkg-lists/cdrom-apus build/pkg-lists/generic build/pkg-lists/hd-media build/pkg-lists/monolithic build/pkg-lists/nativehd build/pkg-lists/

2009-02-15 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 15 February 2009, Colin Watson wrote:
 Author: cjwatson
 Date: Sun Feb 15 22:10:48 2009
 New Revision: 57572

 Log:
 Add cdebconf-newt-terminal to most images that include
 cdebconf-newt-udeb (although not floppies).

 Modified:
trunk/installer/build/pkg-lists/cdrom-apus/common
trunk/installer/build/pkg-lists/cdrom/common
trunk/installer/build/pkg-lists/generic/common
trunk/installer/build/pkg-lists/hd-media/common
trunk/installer/build/pkg-lists/monolithic/common
trunk/installer/build/pkg-lists/nativehd/common
trunk/installer/build/pkg-lists/netboot-apus/common
trunk/installer/build/pkg-lists/netboot/common
trunk/installer/debian/changelog

This broke daily builds as the new udeb is awaiting NEW processing.
I've marked it as optional for now.

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Re: New newt terminal plugin

2009-02-15 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 16 February 2009, Jérémy Bobbio wrote:
 I meant being called during a progress, yes.  I am unsure on how the
 plugin will react… but we'll figure out once you will have made
 progress on re-adding support for manual package selection. :)

It does not really need to be re-added, it's never been removed.
If you run 'tasksel --new-install' on a regular system you'll see the 
option displayed.

Whether it is displayed depends on 'tests/debconf' (see tasks/manual).

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Re: New newt terminal plugin

2009-02-15 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 16 February 2009, Frans Pop wrote:
 On Monday 16 February 2009, Jérémy Bobbio wrote:
  I meant being called during a progress, yes.  I am unsure on how
  the plugin will react… but we'll figure out once you will have made
  progress on re-adding support for manual package selection. :)

 It does not really need to be re-added, it's never been removed.
 If you run 'tasksel --new-install' on a regular system you'll see the
 option displayed.

 Whether it is displayed depends on 'tests/debconf' (see tasks/manual).

P.S.
I just found that in a gtk terminal plugin shell started from the menu, to 
run tasksel (after 'chroot /target') you first need to manually unset 
DEBIAN_FRONTEND as the newt frontend isn't available for regular 
debconf...

Should we clear (part of) the environment when starting shells?

And hmmm, it's rather strange that DEBIAN_FRONTEND is set to *newt* as I 
was running the graphical installer...


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Re: r57573 - in trunk/packages/rescue: debian rescue.d

2009-02-15 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Colin Watson (cjwat...@alioth.debian.org):


  _Description: Executing a shell
   After this message, you will be given a shell in the installer environment.
 - Since the installer could not find any partitions, no file systems have
 - been mounted for you.
 + No file systems have been mounted for you.


Could we use this opportunity to drop this for you. It doesn't add
much information and I always find this quite clumky. I don't really
see why a given action would be made for me.

No file systems have been mounted automatically. would sound more
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Re: [RFC] Script to build installer from SVN

2009-02-15 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Otavio Salvador (ota...@debian.org):
 Hello,
 
 Two weeks ago I ahd some time free and started to write a script to
 build debian-installer using SVN sources.
 
 The script itself is not yet (it still lacks debian-installer building)
 but it already does a good job for rest of packages.
 
 To allow people to take a look at it, and improve it if desired, I added
 it to a GIT repository:
 
 https://projetos.ossystems.com.br/git/?p=users/otavio/svn-daily-builder.git;a=summary
 
 It is quite far from ready yet but I'm more insterested to know what
 people things about it and how we could improve it to later adopt it.


It's quite a long time since I dream of such a beast, with the goal to
be able to provide daily builds with all translation updates that
are synced by the regular l10n-sync jobsinstead of waiting for a
package to be uploaded for translators to be able to see their
translations.

I have to admit I haven't looked at your script and didn't compare it
with buildscript pointed by Frans, but may I risk a remark:

The script currently builds all packages for the said architecture,
but what will it do with those packages?

I'd suggest trying to build special netboot-style images with all
udebs included, of course, if that's technically feasible.




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