Bug#587928: quik-installer: fails to detect ext2 boot partition

2010-07-15 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Vagrant Cascadian (vagr...@freegeek.org):

 this makes debian-installer fail with the default partitioning, at least when
 using qemu-system-ppc.
 
 any concern if i upload an NMU to fix this?


Seems fair. So, unless someone else from the D-I team objects, please
go ahead.






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Re: D-I Manual - String freeze / Call to update translations (deadline: May 17)

2010-07-15 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 30 April 2010, Holger Wansing wrote:
 Add 2010 to the copyright hint on the first side of the manual?

 Copyright © 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 the Debian Installer team

Done.


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Re: D-I Manual - String freeze / Call to update translations (deadline: May 17)

2010-07-15 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 01 May 2010, Miroslav Kure wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 10:13:56AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
  It's time for another upload of the Installation Guide.

 Hi Frans, please consider applying the attached patch (or something
 along the lines), which IMO greatly clarifies the IP adresses used in
 the example.

Committed. Thanks.


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Bug#579954: installation-guide: Add link from accessibility section to boot screen section

2010-07-15 Thread Frans Pop
tag 579954 pending
thanks

On Sunday 02 May 2010, Samuel Thibault wrote:
 It has been reported that it would be useful to add a link from the
 accessibility to the boot screen section, as the attached patch does,
 since the latter describes precisely how keypresses work there.

I've added the link, but using a simpler change.

Thanks.



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Processed: Re: Bug#579954: installation-guide: Add link from accessibility section to boot screen section

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Bug#580508: installation-guide: Fix brltty driver/table code URL

2010-07-15 Thread Frans Pop
tag 580508 pending
thanks

On Thursday 06 May 2010, Samuel Thibault wrote:
 The chapter numbers of the brltty manual have unfortunately changed.
 The attached patch points at its index instead of directly to a chapter
 number.

Updated. I've used a different patch as IMO the text where the URLs are 
used needed updating too and because I don't like having two entities for 
the same URL.

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#589213: Do not install Exim in minimal system

2010-07-15 Thread Daniel Richard G.
Package: debian-installer
Version: 20100211+b1

(Note: I'm not sure that d-i is the correct package for this bug; please
reassign if needed.)

I want to install a minimal Debian/squeeze system. When the installer
presents the tasksel screen, I unselect everything, even Standard
system utilities. Yet when the install is finished, I see that a
complete exim4 installation is present, and running. This is, to say the
least, inappropriate for a minimal install.

I found a couple of discussion threads referencing this issue:

http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17t=49816

http://www.pubbs.net/201003/debian/1016-fresh-debian-install-wo-exim.html

From the looks of it, exim4 is installed because of a Recommends: by the
cron package:

Recommends: exim4 | postfix | mail-transport-agent, lockfile-progs

I believe the right thing to do would be to include in the base install
a minimal, non-daemon-ized, dumb MTA capable only of forwarding and
local delivery, to satisfy the mail-transport-agent dependency.
(Forwarding won't work out of the box, obviously, but for cron and other
system facilities, local delivery is all that matters anyway.)

It would make sense to install Exim if the user selects the Mail
server task, or perhaps even Standard system utilities.



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Bug#589213: Do not install Exim in minimal system

2010-07-15 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 15 July 2010, Daniel Richard G. wrote:
 From the looks of it, exim4 is installed because of a Recommends: by
 the cron package:

 Recommends: exim4 | postfix | mail-transport-agent, lockfile-progs

How exactly did you determine this? I doubt it is cron as Recommends are 
not installed during base system installation (debootstrap).

The only correct way to check what pulls exim in is to check the syslog for 
the installation. Please send a (gzipped!) copy (you can find it on the 
installed system in /var/log/installer).

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#589213: Do not install Exim in minimal system

2010-07-15 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen

[Daniel Richard G.]
 I want to install a minimal Debian/squeeze system. When the
 installer presents the tasksel screen, I unselect everything, even
 Standard system utilities. Yet when the install is finished, I see
 that a complete exim4 installation is present, and running. This is,
 to say the least, inappropriate for a minimal install.

Why do you find exim4 inappropriate for a minimal install?

 From the looks of it, exim4 is installed because of a Recommends: by
 the cron package:

This can be verified by running 'aptitude why exim4' in the installed
system.

I suspect the change you propose can not be implemented by
debian-installer, but instead would have to be done by changing cron
or any other package pulling in the mta package.  At least the way d-i
is designed at the moment.

Happy hacking,
-- 
Petter Reinholdtsen



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Bug#589213: Do not install Exim in minimal system

2010-07-15 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 15 July 2010, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
 I suspect the change you propose can not be implemented by
 debian-installer, but instead would have to be done by changing cron
 or any other package pulling in the mta package.  At least the way d-i
 is designed at the moment.

And on what do you base that statement? To make things simple: it's false. 
There are differences in the way Recommends are handled and options to 
tune whether Recommends are installed in some stages.

Please make some effort to understand how things work before making wild 
guesses.



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Bug#589213: Do not install Exim in minimal system

2010-07-15 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen

[Frans Pop]
 And on what do you base that statement?

I base it on many years of experience with debian installer and mine
observations of its inner workings.  And as far as I know there is
nothing in debian-installer asking for exim to be installed.  The
packages installed is mostly decided by debootstrap, tasksel, the
archive priorities and the set of dependencies and recommends of the
packages in Debian, as far as I know.  The d-i packages request a few
packages to be installed, but exim is not one of them.

 To make things simple: it's false.

I trust you to know the facts better than me, and if you believe you
have sensible way to solve this in d-i, I am happy to be wrong. :)

 There are differences in the way Recommends are handled and options
 to tune whether Recommends are installed in some stages.

Sure.  That is correct.  Not quite sure why that would be related to a
correct fix for this, given that Debian is moving to installing
recommended packages by default, and d-i is moving in the same
direction.

 Please make some effort to understand how things work before making
 wild guesses.

I've spent an effort over several years to understand how d-i is
working, but thank you for voicing your concern.

Happy hacking,
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Re: Bug#589213: Do not install Exim in minimal system

2010-07-15 Thread Frans Pop
(Replying to list only.)

On Friday 16 July 2010, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
  Please make some effort to understand how things work before making
  wild guesses.

 I've spent an effort over several years to understand how d-i is
 working, but thank you for voicing your concern.

For your education, you may be interested in the following threads:
- http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2009/07/msg00090.html
- http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2009/08/msg00528.html
- http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2009/12/msg00115.html
- http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2010/02/msg00033.html
  (especially my own reply to that message)

Note that details in the way Recommends are handled has been changed a few 
times until we arrived at the current situation. Some of the info in the 
early threads was superceded by later changes.


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[D-I Manual] Build log for en (15 Jul 2010)

2010-07-15 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel
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