Bug#1010488: win32-loader: please annotate the wine Build-Depends with

2022-05-02 Thread Paul Gevers
Source: win32-loader
Version: 0.10.4
Severity: normal
Tags: patch
X-Debbugs-Cc: Thomas Gaugler 

Dear maintainers,

As part of my Release Team member checks, I have been investigating
why the RC buggy src:vkd3d is part of the key package set. It turns
out that vkd3d is part of the current key package set because it's
needed to build and run wine and wine is needed because it's a
Build-Depends of win32-loader. I checked the source code of
win32-loader and I got the impression wine is only used during testing
(on i386). After I mentioned this on IRC, kibi confirmed that the
content of the package didn't change without wine installed during the
build, confirming my idea.

If our analysis wasn't flawed, can you please annotate the wine
Build-Depends with the  profile to indicate it's only needed
during testing? (If there are other Build-Depends also only needed,
please mark those too.) It would make my live as a Release Team member
a tiny bit easier.

Paul



Re: Including partman-hfs to the team's git project

2022-05-02 Thread Holger Wansing
Hi,

John Paul Adrian Glaubitz  wrote (Thu, 15 Apr 
2021 08:28:52 +0200):
> Hi!
> 
> I created a partman-hfs package that is required for the installation of
> PowerMacs but will also allow to create HFS and HFS+ partitions on any
> machines. It might be useful on Intel Macs as well for creating shared
> partitions for dual-boot Macs.
> 
> While including the necessary hfsprogs-udeb in debian-installer is a bit
> tricky due to the non-free license of src:hfsprogs, I was wondering whether
> it would be okay nevertheless to include the git repository for partman-hfs
> packaging in the debian-installer's team project?

Apparently I did not got the point regarding non-free here, when reading
this mail that day.

Now I see that partman-hfs is in contrib, and that opened my eyes.
I wonder if it's ok from the license point-of-view, to have a installer
module from contrib in the installer?
Doesn't this turn the whole installer into a no-longer DFSG-free piece of
software?
Or in other words: can we call such installer the "official Debian-Installer"?


(There is another issue about non-free firmware to be included in the
installer, and unofficial installer images were introduced for this; maybe 
this is a similar thing?)


Ahhh, another thought comes to mind:
maybe this partman-hfs is for ports releases anyway, and not to be used in
official release archs?


Holger


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Re: Skipping disk erase on Debian text-based installation (fwd)

2022-05-02 Thread Nick Gawronski
Hi, I think that some type of message should be written in the installer 
that is used with speech telling the user that if you don't need to wipe 
the disk like if it is already encrypted then you can press control and 
c to abort the process so that the message is clear and so that it is 
known to the user that they don't have to wait until the entire wiping 
process is completed if they don't want to.  Nick Gawronski


On 5/2/2022 7:39 AM, Holger Wansing wrote:


Am 2. Mai 2022 13:58:54 MESZ schrieb Samuel Thibault :

Holger Wansing, le lun. 02 mai 2022 13:52:36 +0200, a ecrit:

Nick is right, if you perform an install with speech output, there is no
interactive possibility to cancel the full disk wipe action in the text
frontend used for speech!
In the newt frontend or graphical installer there is the Cancel button,
but not in the text frontend, sadly.

That was fixed in cdebconf 0.261, one can just press control-C.

Uups.
Yes, I used an outdated image for testing, my bad...


Holger





Re: Skipping disk erase on Debian text-based installation (fwd)

2022-05-02 Thread Holger Wansing



Am 2. Mai 2022 13:58:54 MESZ schrieb Samuel Thibault :
>Holger Wansing, le lun. 02 mai 2022 13:52:36 +0200, a ecrit:
>> Nick is right, if you perform an install with speech output, there is no 
>> interactive possibility to cancel the full disk wipe action in the text 
>> frontend used for speech!
>> In the newt frontend or graphical installer there is the Cancel button,
>> but not in the text frontend, sadly.
>
>That was fixed in cdebconf 0.261, one can just press control-C.

Uups. 
Yes, I used an outdated image for testing, my bad...


Holger

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Re: Skipping disk erase on Debian text-based installation (fwd)

2022-05-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Holger Wansing, le lun. 02 mai 2022 13:52:36 +0200, a ecrit:
> Nick is right, if you perform an install with speech output, there is no 
> interactive possibility to cancel the full disk wipe action in the text 
> frontend used for speech!
> In the newt frontend or graphical installer there is the Cancel button,
> but not in the text frontend, sadly.

That was fixed in cdebconf 0.261, one can just press control-C.

Samuel



Re: Skipping disk erase on Debian text-based installation (fwd)

2022-05-02 Thread Holger Wansing
Hi Nick,

Nick Gawronski  wrote (Sun, 1 May 2022 17:19:48 -0500):
> Hi, I am totally blind and use the s option at boot to start the 
> installer with speech output.  If I wish to add this kernel command line 
> option yet still run the installation using software speech output would 
> pressing s then tab and then entering in the command line switches then 
> pressing enter work as control and c does not do the canceling operation 
> like it should and I had to wait until the entire disk was wiped?  

yes, typing in the commandline switch should work as you described.
But be aware, that the installer uses a qwerty (english) keyboard layout
in that stage. That might be tricky, if you use another layout usually
(especially because you need to type some special symbols as well, not only
alphabetical characters).

And I have tested it, it works as described, the full disk wipe is skipped
automatically then.

Another comment:
Nick is right, if you perform an install with speech output, there is no 
interactive possibility to cancel the full disk wipe action in the text 
frontend used for speech!
In the newt frontend or graphical installer there is the Cancel button,
but not in the text frontend, sadly.


Regards
Holger



> 
> On 5/1/2022 5:54 AM, Philip Hands wrote:
> > Nick Gawronski  writes:
> >
> >> Hi, I had to reinstall debian and like to encrypt my installations.
> >> Regardless of what installation image I use I find that no choice exists
> >> to not do the complete wiping of the disk before the LVM manager is
> >> setup.  I get that it will be possible to press control and c to stop
> >> the process but having an option like a choice in the last step asking
> >> if you wish to do this complete wipe would be better.  If the system was
> >> already encrypted and all you were doing was doing a reinstallation then
> >> going threw that process again to     me is pointless.  Is this
> >> something that could possibly be looked at for a future release? Nick
> >> Gawronski
> > If you're doing an interactive install, the expectation is that you
> > cancel it if you don't want to wait for it, since that seems the way to
> > ensure that people that don't know what they're doing still get a safe
> > result.
> >
> > It's been possible to override this via preseeding (since 2017[1]),
> > either in a preseed.cfg, thus:
> >
> >d-i partman-auto-crypto/erase_disks boolean false
> >
> > or on the kernel command line:
> >
> >partman-auto-crypto/erase_disks=false
> >
> > which you could do in an otherwise interactive install, if that's what
> > you wanted.
> >
> > For more such preseeding hints, check out the example preseed.cfg:
> >
> >https://d-i.debian.org/manual/example-preseed.txt
> >
> > which is linked to from here:
> >
> >https://d-i.debian.org/manual/en.amd64/apbs02.html
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Cheers, Phil.
> >
> > [1]  https://bugs.debian.org/476388
> 


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