Bug#611951: Default GNOME desktop installation has both xsane *and* simple-scan

2011-02-04 Thread Julien BLACHE
Christian PERRIER bubu...@debian.org wrote:

Hi,

 According to Joss, meta-gnome2 is correct in this case and only
 simple-scan should be installed.

 I would like to have xsane's maintainer advice on this issue. Should
 we remove xsane from gnome-desktop?

I concur with Joss; the default desktop installation should not include
XSane.

XSane is complex to use and simple-scan will do for the vast majority of
desktop users.

Thanks,

JB.

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Re: Uploading GNOME 2.24 to sid

2009-02-15 Thread Julien BLACHE
Bastian Blank wa...@debian.org wrote:

Hi,

 Can you do a size estimate for this? It would need in addition
 - the X server,
 - evdev input module and
 - a framebuffer video module.

 Anything else?

HAL and DBus to go with input-evdev, I guess?

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Bug#501290: Installation report: MacBook4,1 on Oct 2nd

2008-10-06 Thread Julien BLACHE
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Hi,

 During partition hard drives I just have labeled the linux partition
 correctly.  Right after debootstrap (IIRC) I created a swap file (more than 
 four
 partitions are not recommended for GPT/MBR mix).

Not an issue as long as the bootloader and kernel are available in one
of the first four partitions (excluding the EFI partition).

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Missing MANIFEST entries for ia64 stuff?

2008-05-31 Thread Julien BLACHE
Hi,

While looking at the d-i files on a mirror (sid, current on
ftp.de.d.o), I found this in the ia64 MANIFEST file:

 less MANIFEST
cdrom/boot.img   -- CDROM image for Itanium systems
cdrom/initrd.gz  -- ./tmp/cdrom/udeb.list
cdrom/vmlinuz-- 
[...]

ia64/cdrom.cfg only has a MANIFEST-BOOT entry, looks like it needs
MANIFEST-INITRD and MANIFEST-KERNEL entries also.

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Re: d-i status wrt i386 amd64 EFI machines

2008-05-29 Thread Julien BLACHE
Frans Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

 There is no provision to say partition the drive, but leave the first one 
 alone. Especially for the first partition (if it is #1 and at the 
 beginning of the disk) that should be possible to implement though by 
 coding what I described in [1] (the recipe used should then of course not 
 include an EFI partition).

I kind of expected something like that, to be honest :) It sure gets
complicated when the partition to keep is in the middle of the disk,
but fortunately that case shouldn't happen.

Also being able to automatically protect a partition could be also
be useful on mips for SGI machines where a volume header must exist on
the disk. Though I don't remember how this is handled by d-i, it's
been like forever since I last ran d-i on an SGI.

Anyway, one thing at a time; there are several levels of support we
can provide, let's get something basic working first and build from
there.

JB.

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Re: d-i status wrt i386 amd64 EFI machines

2008-05-28 Thread Julien BLACHE
Frans Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

 Note that we also have a combined i386/amd64/powerpc CD. We'd need to check 
 that EFI support can coexist with that, or else somehow exclude it from 
 that image.

Shouldn't be a problem at first glance; maybe the EFI boot image will
need to be the first one on the disk.

Anyway, I have all those CD images on the radar.

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Re: d-i status wrt i386 amd64 EFI machines

2008-05-28 Thread Julien BLACHE
Frans Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

 Which brings us to the core of the issue. Installing rEFIt means:
  - copying rEFIt to the EFI system partition (first partition on the
disk, FAT32, ca. 200 MB on Apple machines)

 This may also require changes in partman, especially in guided partitioning 
 if it should be possible to reuse a pre-existing EFI system partition.

Yes, that's part of the plan.

 There already is code to recognize Intel Macs as a separate subarch which 
 allows to use separate partitioning recipes that could include a EFI system 
 partition, but currently that means the existing one would probably be 
 lost.

Which is not a good idea :) So if Mac  1st partition is FAT32 -
mark the partition as being the EFI partition (can be generalized to
all the EFI machines I think).

 Not sure how EFI based servers (when booted as pure EFI) should be 
 recognized. Also as a separate subarch? By special casing them?

(i386 || amd64)  !Mac  efivars loaded - EFI machine

 OTOH, I would expect most sysadmins of servers to do manual partitioning 
 anyway.

So do I.

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Bug#483182: [PATCH] libdebian-installer: add new vendor string for Apple

2008-05-27 Thread Julien BLACHE
Package: libdebian-installer4
Version: 0.58
Tags: patch

Hi,

Apple changed its company name in Q1 2007 (from Apple Computer, Inc.
to Apple Inc.), and the vendor string embedded on the machines
changed as a consequence on machines produced after this date.

The attached patch adds the new vendor string to the x86 subarch
detection code.

Please apply,

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diff -ru orig/libdebian-installer-0.58/src/system/subarch-x86-linux.c libdebian-installer-0.58/src/system/subarch-x86-linux.c
--- orig/libdebian-installer-0.58/src/system/subarch-x86-linux.c	2007-12-31 23:34:31.0 +0100
+++ libdebian-installer-0.58/src/system/subarch-x86-linux.c	2008-05-27 13:55:06.855293130 +0200
@@ -215,6 +215,7 @@
 
 static struct map map_manufacturer[] = {
 	{ Apple Computer, Inc., mac },
+	{ Apple Inc., mac },
 	{ NULL, NULL }
 };
 


d-i status wrt i386 amd64 EFI machines

2008-05-25 Thread Julien BLACHE
[Please Cc me on replies, I'm not subscribed to debian-boot]

Hi,

I've taken over the maintenance of rEFIt last week and I've been
working on updating rEFIt in Debian since then (I've been working on
the rEFIt issue on and off for more than a year). This is now a done
deal, only waiting for a gnu-efi upload.

Now that we have a working rEFIt, I'd like to have some support for
that in d-i. Looking into this issue, I came to the conclusion that
what is really needed is a d-i install medium for i386  amd64
machines.

What is the status on that? Are there any plans or any work in
progress towards providing an EFI bootable medium, similar to the ia64
install medium?


(you can skip the remainder of this mail if you're not interested in
the gory details)

Rationale for that:
 - i386/amd64 EFI machines are becoming more and more common among
   high-end servers
 - Intel Macs are also becoming more and more common, the market share
   for Apple machines in the high end market is booming (especially
   for laptops)
 - as the pommed author, I'm getting more and more mails from *new*
   users; that shows that Linux is progressing on those machines too
 - current d-i support for Intel Macs is suboptimal at best,
   installing an i386 system is mostly OK, installing and amd64 system
   is hardly possible TTBOMK


I'll go into the details pertaining to Intel Macs now and why an EFI
boot medium is needed. When reading what follows, keep in mind that
Intel Macs are a special case among i386/amd64 EFI machines. That
means most of the workload is directed at the generic case and the
support for Intel Macs is really icing on the cake.

The EFI system on Apple machines can boot an OS either via an EFI
bootloader or through a legacy bootloader by loading a legacy BIOS
emulation layer before executing the legacy bootloader.

The Linux kernel has support for EFI on both i386 and amd64 (starting
with 2.6.25 for amd64); this means the kernel can be booted via an EFI
bootloader such as elilo and interact with the EFI system. Notably,
this means the kernel can manipulate EFI variables (via the efivars
module), which is required to set the boot order.

That last feature can only be used when the kernel has been booted via
EFI, it's not available when the kernel is booted through legacy mode.

Also, for everyday use, Intel Macs are best booted through legacy
mode. Why? Because otherwise, there is no video BIOS loaded, which
means: no accelerated 2D or 3D video.


Which brings us to the core of the issue. Installing rEFIt means:
 - copying rEFIt to the EFI system partition (first partition on the
   disk, FAT32, ca. 200 MB on Apple machines)
 - setting the EFI variables so that the EFI system will load rEFIt as
   the primary bootloader

(for other EFI machines, replace rEFIt with elilo and the above still
holds)

This last step can be accomplished on Linux with efibootmgr and the
efivars kernel module. Without this last step, the machine will
continue booting into OS X and the user will have to use the bless
utility under OS X to set the EFI variables.


As I wrote above, the efivars module only works when the kernel has
been booted through EFI. Which means that we need to boot d-i from EFI
and not through legacy mode in order to support a painless installation
on these machines.


Note that I expect most of the ia64 stuff can be reused mostly
unchanged to produce those images.

Providing a refit-installer similar to elilo-installer looks like a
no-brainer, overall most of the work seems to be in building new
images and testing them.

JB.

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Re: d-i status wrt i386 amd64 EFI machines

2008-05-25 Thread Julien BLACHE
Julien BLACHE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

For the sake of completeness, as I was concentrating on EFI stuff
while writing this mail:

 Which brings us to the core of the issue. Installing rEFIt means:

   - installing grub/lilo on the *partition* (not MBR)
   - running gptsync

  - copying rEFIt to the EFI system partition (first partition on the
disk, FAT32, ca. 200 MB on Apple machines)
  - setting the EFI variables so that the EFI system will load rEFIt as
the primary bootloader

JB.

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Re: d-i status wrt i386 amd64 EFI machines

2008-05-25 Thread Julien BLACHE
Frans Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

 There is an open BR against debian-cd to support EFI for i386/amd64 CD 
 images (#455914). Help to implement that is very much needed.

There's some work to be done on d-i beforehand ;)

 What other types of images are you thinking of? Could EFI support be added 
 to existing images or do we really need additional images?

I think we need dedicated images, as far as the CD/DVDs go. I don't
think we can share a CD, though I have to check how multiboot CDs
work and how EFI behaves on Macs. To be honest, at this stage, it's
still a detail :)

For PXE booting, a dedicated image will be required, though it's no
problem compared to a dedicated CD image.

The good news is, in all cases, the code from ia64.cfg can probably be
shared among all three architectures.

If I'm not mistaken, there's no g-i on ia64, so I'll just have to add
it for i386 and amd64 as g-i should work fine via EFI too.

 I don't see any objection to providing images that support EFI, but I doubt 
 anyone on the D-I team will do the actual implementation.
 As always: patches are welcome and we can offer help with finding the right 
 places to make needed changes.

I'm ready to make whatever changes are required, as long as I can get
some assistance on some very specific points.

I've started identifying the precise changes to be done. I may need a
little bit of help with the build system to build the images,
otherwise, with the exception of grub-installer and lilo-installer, I
think I can handle it.

I'd like to have grub-installer and lilo-installer default to
installing the bootloader on the debian partition on Macs, and that
requires some changes in the logic and templates. I'll try to figure
it out, but hairy debconf stuff scares the hell out of me :)

JB.

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Re: d-i status wrt i386 amd64 EFI machines

2008-05-25 Thread Julien BLACHE
Frans Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

 What other types of images are you thinking of? Could EFI support be added 
 to existing images or do we really need additional images?

Looks like I can answer your question after a few tests and some
googling on the spec.

Yes, it seems we can add EFI support to the current CD images and
don't need additional CD images. Adding an alternative El Torito boot
image is enough. The firmware is required by the spec to ignore legacy
boot entries. The Apple firmware presents the legacy entries and the
EFI entries, labelled as such.

That, of course, simplifies things quite a bit :)

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Bug#421338: macbook pro installation issue

2007-04-28 Thread Julien BLACHE
\FĂ©lix Guerrero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

 Image version: debian 4.0 r0 ia64

Apple machines aren't ia64, they're i386/amd64 machines.

So, you used the wrong architecture, grab an i386 or amd64
installation media instead.

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Bug#382983: d-i beta3 on SGI Indigo2 (IP22)

2006-11-16 Thread Julien BLACHE
Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi tbm,

 The kernel on the beta3 CD seems to lack keyboard support, so
 installing using the console is rather hard :)

 This should be fixed in rc1.  Can you please try?

I won't have physical access to the machine until the end of december,
sorry.

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Bug#383796: d-i: too much error screens

2006-08-19 Thread Julien BLACHE
Package: installation-reports

Boot method: CD
Image version: beta 3
Date: 20060819

Machine: SGI Indigo2
Processor: R4400SC 200 MHz
Memory: 256 MB
Partitions:
 

Output of lspci and lspci -n:
 No PCI bus.

Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[E]
Install boot loader:[ ]
Reboot: [ ]

Comments/Problems:

Note: the initial boot from the CD isn't automatic as noted previously.

Note2: tbm asked me to do a test install to check that
partitioning/detecting/formatting/mounting partitions was OK on these
machines -- it is indeed working fine. The list of partitions includes
the volhdr and 2 small 16 kB partitions (can't remember what they
are, might be holes in the partitioning) which is misleading and error
prone; the suggestion would be to hide the volhdr.


Base system installation failed, due to a broken CD-ROM drive, so
that's not a d-i issue, and not the point of this installation report.


While retrieving packages from the CD, d-i displays 2 consecutive
error screens per failed file, which is really painful on a 9600
bauds serial console. The first error is displayed when retrieving the
file, and the second when validating it. This last step should be
skipped when the file could not be retrieved.

Hitting the Go Back button on these error screens is useless, as d-i
will just continue to retrieve the base system's files; please make
this button go back to the main d-i menu or just remove it.


After that, debootstrap will fail, which leads to *3* error
screens (trying to break a record or something ? ;) :
 - deboostrap failed with error code ... blahblahblah check virtual
   console 4 for details (hmm ... no virtual consoles while
   installing using a serial console - misleading error message, but
   that's a detail)
 - failed to install the base system (just in case I didn't get it the
   first time)
 - an installation step failed (really ?)


Other than that, it just works, congrats to the d-i people !

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Bug#382983: d-i beta3 on SGI Indigo2 (IP22)

2006-08-14 Thread Julien BLACHE
Package: installation-reports

Boot method: CD
Image version: beta3 netinst
Date: 20060814

Machine: SGI IP22 (Indigo2)
Processor: R4400SC 200 MHz
Memory: 256 MB
Partitions:
 No partitioning done.

Output of lspci and lspci -n:
 No PCI onboard.

Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot worked:[E]
Configure network HW:   [ ]
Config network: [ ]
Detect CD:  [ ]
Load installer modules: [ ]
Detect hard drives: [ ]
Partition hard drives:  [ ]
Create file systems:[ ]
Mount partitions:   [ ]
Install base system:[ ]
Install boot loader:[ ]
Reboot: [ ]

Comments/Problems:

The kernel on the beta3 CD seems to lack keyboard support, so
installing using the console is rather hard :)

Some strings in the list of languages aren't displayed properly, which
means the installation probably can't be done using the affected
languages.


Note: the installation manual lacks the instructions needed to boot
from the CD (boot -f scsi(X)cdrom(Y)partition(8)/r4k-ip22 in the PROM)


I'll attempt a serial console install and will submit another report
once I'll be done.

Thanks,

JB.

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Bug#382983: d-i beta3 on SGI Indigo2 (IP22)

2006-08-14 Thread Julien BLACHE
Christian Perrier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Indeed, the code in localechooser that decides to display one or
 another set of languages is pretty incomplete. It decides this based
 on assumptions about the display but these are probably incomplete:

The console in this case should be a standard Linux console on
framebuffer, but I guess that it's not /that/ standard after
all. Maybe Thiemo can tell us more about that ?

The console groks at least latin1, btw. Could it be that the console
lacks UTF8 support ?

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Bug#382983: d-i beta3 on SGI Indigo2 (IP22)

2006-08-14 Thread Julien BLACHE
Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

 Note: the installation manual lacks the instructions needed to boot
 from the CD (boot -f scsi(X)cdrom(Y)partition(8)/r4k-ip22 in the PROM)

 This should work semi-automatically via the install system entry in
 the firmware menu.

That's what I thought when I first tried it ... it failed to boot :)

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Bug#382983: d-i beta3 on SGI Indigo2 (IP22)

2006-08-14 Thread Julien BLACHE
Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

 Well, it _should_ try to boot from scsi(X)cdrom(Y)partition(8)/sashARCS,
 which _should_ be provided in the CD's volume header as an alias to
 r4k-ip22.

From the PROM:
 ls scsi(0)cdrom(3)partition(8)
scsi(0)cdrom(3)partition(8):
r4k-ip22


From a running system:
% sudo dvhtool -d /dev/sr0 --print-volume-directory
- directory entries -
Entry #0, name r4k-ip22, start 7480, bytes 9414656
%

Which would indicate a problem with the CD build script, I guess ?

Thanks,

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Bug#382983: d-i beta3 on SGI Indigo2 (IP22)

2006-08-14 Thread Julien BLACHE
Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The console in this case should be a standard Linux console on
 framebuffer, but I guess that it's not /that/ standard after
 all. Maybe Thiemo can tell us more about that ?

 It is not at all a standard framebuffer. The hardware allows no direct
 memory access but provides userspace-driven DMA capability instead.
 The X server uses the userland DMA for a while now, but the kernel
 uses a special newport console which is rather inefficient.

It's the console which I qualified of standard, in this case, as the
framebuffer is indeed pretty exotic.

 The console groks at least latin1, btw. Could it be that the console
 lacks UTF8 support ?

 That's possible, I don't know the newport code by heart.

Christian, can you confirm that the installer uses a UTF-8 console ?
If yes, I should be able to reproduce the problem on a running system
by calling unicode_start and echoing some UTF-8 text, I guess.

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Bug#382983: d-i beta3 on SGI Indigo2 (IP22)

2006-08-14 Thread Julien BLACHE
Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Which would indicate a problem with the CD build script, I guess ?

 Yes. IIRC it worked correctly for sarge.

Looking at the debian-cd SVN, the scripts for sarge and etch are
mostly identical. So that would be an issue with mkisofs.

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Bug#266601: installation report: d-i RC1 on HP Pavillion ze4200

2004-08-18 Thread Julien BLACHE
Package: installation-reports

Debian-installer-version: RC1 business card
uname -a: 2.6.7-1-686
Date: 20040817
Method: 
 Boot on the business card CD, install using a local mirror.

Machine: HP Pavillion ze4200
Processor: Intel Celeron
Memory: 256 MB (- 64 MB VRAM)
Root Device: IDE
Root Size/partition table: 
  hda1  9.2 GB Windows XP
  hda5  500 MB Swap
  hda6  10 GB  /

Output of lspci:
:00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS200/RS200M AGP Bridge [IGP 340M] (rev 
02)
:00:01.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc PCI Bridge [IGP 340M]
:00:02.0 USB Controller: ALi Corporation USB 1.1 Controller (rev 03)
:00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: ALi Corporation M5451 PCI AC-Link Controller 
Audio Device (rev 02)
:00:07.0 ISA bridge: ALi Corporation M1533 PCI to ISA Bridge [Aladdin IV]
:00:08.0 Modem: ALi Corporation M5457 AC'97 Modem Controller
:00:0a.0 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ6912 Cardbus Controller
:00:0c.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB21 IEEE-1394a-2000 
Controller (PHY/Link)
:00:10.0 IDE interface: ALi Corporation M5229 IDE (rev c4)
:00:11.0 Bridge: ALi Corporation M7101 Power Management Controller [PMU]
:00:12.0 Ethernet controller: National Semiconductor Corporation DP83815 
(MacPhyter) Ethernet Controller
:01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon IGP 340M


Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[E/O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [E/O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[O]
Reboot: [O]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems:

Booting on the default 2.4 kernel led to a non-working keyboard; this
also happened with RedHat and other installers about a year
ago. Booting with the linux26 kernel worked like a charm.

Partitionning went a bit funny. The disk layout was :
   hda1 9.2 GB  Windows XP
FREE SPACE   0.04 MB 
   hda2 10 GB   /

[that thing was generated by a previous Mandrake installation]

It seems this layout managed to confuse partman; it wouldn't list the
existing partitions (only the entire disk was available in the menu).

After deleting hda2 using cfdisk on another terminal, everything
worked fine.

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Bug#266601: installation report: d-i RC1 on HP Pavillion ze4200

2004-08-18 Thread Julien BLACHE
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It would be best if you could send us an exact dump of your old
 partition table, but at least a copy of

That's not possible anymore, unfortunately. I think it's the layout
with a very small free space between two partitions that triggered the
bug, but time will tell.

 /var/log/debian-installer/partman might be helpful in doing something
 about this.

I sent it a couple of minutes ago :)

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Bug#255169: installation report: SGI Indigo2 (r4k IP22)

2004-06-19 Thread Julien BLACHE
Package: installation-reports

Debian-installer-version: 20040618, 
debian/dists/unstable/main/installer-mips/current/images/r4k-ip22/netboot-boot.img
uname -a: Linux indigo 2.4.25-r4k-ip22 #1 Thu Apr 15 20:46:28 BST 2004 mips GNU/Linux
Date: 20040619
Method: 
 TFTP boot on the LAN, network install (testing) from my local mirror.

Machine: SGI Indigo2, r4k IP22
Processor: R4400SC V6.0  FPU V0.0
Memory: 384 MB, only 256 usable without CONFIG_HIGHMEM (which doesn't work anyway)
Root Device: SCSI, /dev/sda
Root Size/partition table: 

Disk /dev/sda (SGI disk label): 64 heads, 32 sectors, 8748 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 2048 * 512 bytes

- partitions -
Pt# Device  Info Start   End   Sectors  Id  System
 1:  /dev/sda1  boot1190163840  83  Linux native
 2:  /dev/sda2  swap91   600   1044480  82  Linux swap
 3:  /dev/sda3 601  4650   8294400  83  Linux native
 4:  /dev/sda44651  8747   8390656  83  Linux native
 9:  /dev/sda5   010 22528   0  SGI volhdr
11:  /dev/sda6   0  8747  17915904   6  SGI volume
- Bootinfo -
Bootfile: /unix
- Directory Entries -
 0: arcbootsector4 size   67392

/dev/sda1 on /boot type ext3 (rw)
/dev/sda3 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
/dev/sda4 on /home type ext3 (rw)


Output of lspci: No PCI bus.

Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [ ]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[O]
Reboot: [E/O]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems:

I didn't remember that I had to create the partitions from last to
first, I'm pretty sure I didn't do that when I installed woody on the
machine a year ago. Anyway, I eventually figured out and partitioned
the disk. Had to create an SGI disklabel on it, as it comes from a PC.

Disappointment : no XFS support :(

The bootloader installation went fine, but, unfortunately, it doesn't
handle a separate /boot partition, so the machine couldn't reboot.

I had to boot into the installer, and copy /etc/arcboot.conf to
/boot/etc/arcboot.conf, then set OSLoadPartition to the correct value
for /boot.

Everything else went fine. Now this machine will be really useful,
with a little bit more disk space (and less noise) :-)

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Bug#255169: installation report: SGI Indigo2 (r4k IP22)

2004-06-19 Thread Julien BLACHE
Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I didn't remember that I had to create the partitions from last to
 first, I'm pretty sure I didn't do that when I installed woody on the
 machine a year ago. Anyway, I eventually figured out and partitioned
 the disk. Had to create an SGI disklabel on it, as it comes from a PC.

 What do you mean with last to first?

I had to create sda4 first, then sda3, etc.

I started by creating sda1, starting at cylinder 11 and up to cylinder
90, but afterwards fdisk insisted on sda2 being created in the range
0-10 (ie before sda1).

But it's been over a year since I last used fdisk on this machine, so
maybe it isn't something new and I just don't remember. Anyway, it
seems weird.

 Disappointment : no XFS support :(
 
 The bootloader installation went fine, but, unfortunately, it doesn't
 handle a separate /boot partition, so the machine couldn't reboot.

 Well, the firmware has no problem with booting from arbitrary
 partitions, so a separate /boot makes little sense, and arcboot
 doesn't support it. This should be documented better.

d-i should either workaround the problem (as I did), or it shouldn't
offer to create a /boot partition that will lead to a non-booting
machine :)

/boot makes sense in my case, because I intend to use XFS on this
machine, and I think arcboot doesn't handle XFS. Moreover I plan to do
some tests on the machine, and should it crash, I'd like to keep /boot
safe, so it can still boot and recover.

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Bug#255169: installation report: SGI Indigo2 (r4k IP22)

2004-06-19 Thread Julien BLACHE
Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 d-i should either workaround the problem (as I did), or it shouldn't
 offer to create a /boot partition that will lead to a non-booting
 machine :)

 Rather the latter, I think.

Yes, for a quick fix, as it shouldn't be /that/ hard to figure out if
/boot is on the same partition as / or not.

 /boot makes sense in my case, because I intend to use XFS on this
 machine, and I think arcboot doesn't handle XFS.

 If XFS is in a module, you still need a non-XFS /.

I build only non-modular kernels :) initrd is really no fun.

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Bug#255169: installation report: SGI Indigo2 (r4k IP22)

2004-06-19 Thread Julien BLACHE
Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well, the firmware has no problem with booting from arbitrary
 partitions, so a separate /boot makes little sense, and arcboot
 doesn't support it. This should be documented better.

 Does arcboot not support it, or arcboot-installer?

arcboot needs to find both the kernel to boot and an /etc/arcboot.conf
file on the same partition. So I'd say that arcboot basically supports
booting from a separate /boot partition, as long as you provide
mountpoint/etc/arcboot.conf.

Maybe the solution would be to copy the arcboot.conf into the volhdr,
along with arcboot itself, although I don't how complex it would be to
implement. (sure, you'll have to copy it over when you modify it...)

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Bug#245632: Installation report, Poweredge 750 with Adaptec AACRAID

2004-05-28 Thread Julien BLACHE
Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi tbm,

 Can you please test a daily image from
 http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/sarge_d-i/ to make sure there
 are no regressions.  This would be helpful since we're preparing for
 rc1.  If all of the issues you reported originally have been dealt
 with, can you close this bug.

As I said, this machine is now in production. However, I'll have an
identical machine at hand at some point in the near future (probably
in the upcoming month).

I'll test and report if it's still considered useful at that point in
time.

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Bug#245632: Installation report, Poweredge 750 with Adaptec AACRAID

2004-05-26 Thread Julien BLACHE
Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Can you please test a daily image from
 http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/sarge_d-i/ to make sure there
 are no regressions.  This would be helpful since we're preparing for
 rc1.  If all of the issues you reported originally have been dealt
 with, can you close this bug.

The machine is in production now, so for now I cannot test that,
sorry. Maybe I'll have to install a couple of servers with the same
configuration, but that won't happen before several weeks.

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Bug#245632: Installation report, Poweredge 750 with Adaptec AACRAID

2004-04-24 Thread Julien BLACHE
Package: installation-reports

Debian-installer-version: Beta3 netinst (20040405)
uname -a: installer kernel 2.4.25, installed 2.4.25-686
Date: 20040423
Method:
 Boot off of the netinst CD, using a local FTP mirror.

Machine: Dell Poweredge 750 rackmount 1U, with Adaptec AACRAID (Dell
CERC)
Processor: Pentium IV 2.8 GHz
Memory: 512 MB
Root Device: SCSI, /dev/sda (Adaptec AACRAID)
Root Size/partition table: 
 Not relevant. 120 GB on hardware RAID1.
Output of lspci:
 Relevant elements :
   Adaptec AACRAID PCI ID : 0285
   Intel E1000 dual port PCI ID : 1075

Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [E]
Config network: [E,O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [E,O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[O]
Reboot: [O]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems:

The installer booted flawlessly, but couldn't detect the ethernet
card. It is a dual Intel E1000 card, supported by the stock e1000
driver. Loading the driver by hand leads to a working network setup,
the installer then detects the ethernet interfaces without any
problem.

The network configuration is a real pain. We have a DHCP server on the
network used to netboot thin clients and initiate network
backups/restore, which can't be used for anything else.
As the installer automatically issues DHCP requests without asking if
it should do so, we had to pull the plug, then redo the network
configuration. Wasted time.

The installer couldn't detect the Adaptec AACRAID card (RAID card with
6 SATA ports). Loading the driver by hand, together with sd_mod, leads
to a working setup, the installer then finds the RAID array as
/dev/sda, which is just fine.

The regular PATA controller was detected just fine, although the 2
onboard (non-RAID) SATA ports weren't detected. I've no details on the
SATA controller,  I'll get back to you with those details when I'll
have access to the machine again.

Partitioning with partman is a *PAIN*. This thing is horrible. It is
counter-productive and, at best, counter-intuitive. I thought the
installer would ask me to create a swap partition, but I found out
that I was left alone to create it with partman, and the whole thing
is non-obvious. Please, give me back my beloved cfdisk !

Then it complained because I wanted my /boot partition to be an XFS
partition, and that wouldn't work with grub. There's a patch for grub
on the linux-xfs mailing list, please get it applied to our grub
package and remove that warning. I want to get rid of ext{2,3} :P

choose-mirror is buggy. When going back, it will eventually present a
list of mirrors for the country you are supposed to be in, and the
enter information manually item isn't there. Annoying.

Also, it can't tell whether the mirror is unavailable due to network
problems or whether it's not usable for another reason. It'd be useful
to make the distinction between these 2 cases.


Although the installer didn't detect the AACRAID card, the reboot went
just fine. The network driver wasn't loaded, but that was no surprise.

Base-config presented its main menu, and didn't guide me through the
steps automatically. I don't know if it's intended, but I find it
disturbing.


We installed this machine in just 20 minutes. That was my fastest
Debian installation ever. Thanks guys, you're doing a really good job.

If you need more details on the machine, just ask, and I'll provide
them as soon as I'll have the hardware handy.

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Bug#245632: Installation report, Poweredge 750 with Adaptec AACRAID

2004-04-24 Thread Julien BLACHE
Michael Banck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well, I guess your situation is not really the general setup, so making
 it easier for you would mean making it harder for almost everybody else.
 There *are* easy work-arounds available - either do expert mode setup
 which prompts you for this or I think there is a way to disable DCHP via
 a boot option, you might want to check on those.

Because there is a DHCP server responding on the network doesn't mean
the user wants to use it, even when the user is almost everybody
else. That was the point.

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Bug#245632: Installation report, Poweredge 750 with Adaptec AACRAID

2004-04-24 Thread Julien BLACHE
Michael Banck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Because there is a DHCP server responding on the network doesn't mean
 the user wants to use it, even when the user is almost everybody
 else. That was the point.

 So are you argueing that there should be an additional dialog box saying
 'I've detected an DHCP server on your network. Do you want to use it
 [Y/n]?' If not, then don't seem to understand your problem.

Yes, something along this way would be a good idea.

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Bug#245632: Installation report, Poweredge 750 with Adaptec AACRAID

2004-04-24 Thread Julien BLACHE
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[wrt grub and XFS]

 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=99284action=view

That's the one I had in mind, it's actually something that should be
done in the bootloader installer, or in grub-install.

Anyway, it's the way to go, and approved by the XFS gurus.

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Bug#245632: Installation report, Poweredge 750 with Adaptec AACRAID

2004-04-24 Thread Julien BLACHE
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

Adaptec AACRAID PCI ID : 0285
Intel E1000 dual port PCI ID : 1075

 That is not enough information to fix discover to detect the hardware it
 missed. Please read discover(1) and send in sufficient information.

I'll do that as soon as I'll have the machine at hand, thanks.

 If you know where the patch is, send the information to bug #243835.
 I found some interesting urls:
 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-xfsm=107704299608539w=2
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=99284action=view
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=117968
 But no grub patch.

I'll dig it up.

 Base-config presented its main menu, and didn't guide me through the
 steps automatically. I don't know if it's intended, but I find it
 disturbing.

 This is because something you did earlier dropped the installer to a
 lower debconf priority.

Ah. I can't see what I could have done that would have resulted in
that, but OK :)

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Bug#245632: Installation report, Poweredge 750 with Adaptec AACRAID

2004-04-24 Thread Julien BLACHE
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=99284action=view
 
 That's the one I had in mind, it's actually something that should be
 done in the bootloader installer, or in grub-install.

 It seems to me that this would need to be done in grub-install,
 presumably the idea is to freeze the XFS filesystem after the grub files
 are copied to it, and before grub is run, and both steps happen in
 grub-install

You got the idea :)

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Bug#231239: Report : beta2 on HP d330uT w/ 17in TFT monitors

2004-02-05 Thread Julien BLACHE
Package: installation-reports

We installed 3 d330uT based machines at Solutions Linux 2004 ; of the
3 machines, 2 had a dualhead Quadro 4 graphic card.

Debian-installer-version: Beta2
uname -a: handbuilt 2.6.2-rc1 kernel
Date: 2003-02-02
Method: netinst

Machine: HP d330uT unit with 17in TFT monitor
Processor: Pentium4 2.6 GHz
Memory: 500 MB
Root Device: IDE, single disk on primary master
Root Size/partition table: 1 GB swap on hda1, rest of the disk (~35 GB) on hda2
Output of lspci:

-- For the basic d330uT :
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82865G/PE/P Processor to I/O Controller (rev 02)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82865G Integrated Graphics Device (rev 
02)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB (rev 02)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB (rev 02)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB2 (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BA/CA/DB/EB PCI Bridge (rev c2)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801EB LPC Interface Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 
02)
05:02.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5782 Gigabit Ethernet 
(rev 03)

-- For the d330uT + Quadro 4 graphic card
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82865G/PE/P Processor to I/O Controller (rev 02)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82865G/PE/P Processor to AGP Controller (rev 02)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB (rev 02)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB (rev 02)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB2 (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BA/CA/DB/EB PCI Bridge (rev c2)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801EB LPC Interface Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 
02)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV17GL [Quadro4 200/400 NVS] 
(rev a3)
05:02.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5782 Gigabit Ethernet 
(rev 03)


Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [E/O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[O]
Reboot: [O]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems:

The machines come with an integreated Broadcom chipset which is
supported by the tg3 driver in the 2.6 kernel. We had to borrow a
3c509 card to install the base system before building a 2.6 kernel.

The mirror configuration entered a loop, we eventually got out of it
at some point.

JB.

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