Re: Bug#220163: installation-reports: netboot install attempt via PXE (fwd)

2003-11-11 Thread Joey Hess
Jeremie Koenig wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 12:33:59PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
> > We're missing bogl-bterm and a lot of other utf-8 and terminal stuff on 
> > the netboot initrd. I will add it.
> 
> Could you please s/nano/nano-udeb/ in pkg-lists/netboot/common ? Netboot
> images don't build any more.

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Re: Bug#220163: installation-reports: netboot install attempt via PXE (fwd)

2003-11-11 Thread Jeremie Koenig
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 12:33:59PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
> We're missing bogl-bterm and a lot of other utf-8 and terminal stuff on 
> the netboot initrd. I will add it.

Could you please s/nano/nano-udeb/ in pkg-lists/netboot/common ? Netboot
images don't build any more.

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Re: Bug#220163: installation-reports: netboot install attempt via PXE (fwd)

2003-11-11 Thread Jeremie Koenig
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 01:00:22PM -0500, Joe Nahmias wrote:
> > > 1) Install boots into the main menu.  Interface looks alot snazzier than
> > > the old text interface, however the line-drawing characters are all
> > > messed up on my terminal (corners are displayed as '>', &c.)  Known bug?
> > not know bug, please file one. Sorry I don't know which package to blame
> > for that. 
> 
> Any takers on where I should file the bug?  slang?

Uh, no. It's build/pkg-lists/netboot/* that doesn't include bterm (see Joey
Hess' message to debian-boot one week ago.)

I don't know if there's any package for the build system. I'd go for
debian-installer, in doubt.

> For the netboot images, why don't we include nic-extra-modules??
> Wouldn't this make sense to do since we know that a network install is
> being attempted?  It's not like we're trying to cram stuff onto a floppy
> here, so why not put all the network modules we have into this image?

I agree, please include this in your bug report. Choosing the netboot
image and having to use floppies anyway sucks. FWIW, i'm using bterm and
nic-extra-modules on homemade netboot images and they work perfectly.

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Re: Bug#220163: installation-reports: netboot install attempt via PXE (fwd)

2003-11-11 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
Am Die, den 11.11.2003 schrieb Joe Nahmias um 19:00:
> Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
> > Am Die, den 11.11.2003 schrieb Joe Nahmias um 09:16:
> > 
> > It would be nice, if you could write a short addition to the
> > INSTALLATION-HOWTO about your way to install d-i via PXE boot. There is
> > already a very short section on netbooting the installer. If you send a
> > patch to debian-boot, I will look at it and commit it to CVS.
> 
> This was already requested (hi tbm!) and sent to the BTS and the
> debian-testing list (where the request originated).  I titled the
> message "How to create a PXE d-i netboot testbed in 10 easy steps"
> (MSG-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>).  Please look
> at it in one of these places.

I added a pointer to your explanation to the INSTALLATION-HOWTO.
Although it would be nice, to have it directly in the
INSTALLATION-HOWTO. But in the current form I cannot copy it directly,
because it does not fit the style and formatting of the rest of the
HOWTO. Unfortunately I don't have the time to edit it right now.

Gaudenz


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Re: Bug#220163: installation-reports: netboot install attempt via PXE (fwd)

2003-11-11 Thread Joe Nahmias
Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
> Am Die, den 11.11.2003 schrieb Joe Nahmias um 09:16:
> 
> > Alright, here are the highlights of how this install went:
> > 
> > 0) OK, after much struggling (and dealing with my nemesis error message
> > 'VFS: Cannot open root device "" or 3a:04') I managed to get the d-i
> > netboot image to work via PXE.  For posterity (and the installation
> > guide) the magic kernel options I needed to make this work are
> > "ramdisk_size=8192 root=/dev/ram0".  If anyone would like assistance
> > setting up a PXE testbed or copies of various configs I use please don't
> > hesitate to ask.
> It would be nice, if you could write a short addition to the
> INSTALLATION-HOWTO about your way to install d-i via PXE boot. There is
> already a very short section on netbooting the installer. If you send a
> patch to debian-boot, I will look at it and commit it to CVS.

This was already requested (hi tbm!) and sent to the BTS and the
debian-testing list (where the request originated).  I titled the
message "How to create a PXE d-i netboot testbed in 10 easy steps"
(MSG-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>).  Please look
at it in one of these places.

> > 1) Install boots into the main menu.  Interface looks alot snazzier than
> > the old text interface, however the line-drawing characters are all
> > messed up on my terminal (corners are displayed as '>', &c.)  Known bug?
> not know bug, please file one. Sorry I don't know which package to blame
> for that. 

Any takers on where I should file the bug?  slang?

> btw the installation should not boot into main-menu but directly go into
> languagechooser.

That probably happened b/c of the next problem :)

> > 2) Picking "Choose language" doesn't get very far.  This is what I can
> > piece together from syslog:
> > 
> > DEBUG: Menu item 'languagechooser' selected
> > DEBUG: configure languagechooser, status: 4
> > WARNING **: Configuring 'languagechooser' failed with error code 1
> > WARNING **: Menu item 'languagechooser' failed.
> > 
> > Any ideas?  Known unfiled bug?  File a new bug against languagechooser?
> > 
> bug not know. You should have languagechooser 1.03 on your image, which
> is the same as on the beta1 which works for most people. Please file a
> bug.

Yes, the image contains version 1.03.  I will file a bug.

> > 3) After doing 'Select a Keyboard Layout', I chose 'Detect network
> > hardware'.  This generated the following two (fatal looking) errors:
> > 
> >   a. An error occured while running 'modprobe -v floppy false`.
> >   b. An error occured while running 'modprobe -v ide-cd false`.
> > 
> > Since this is a netboot install, these errors should not be fatal.
> please file a bug on hw-detect (or ethdetect?). It's strange that these
> are tried for network hardware detection. Probably the installer tries
> to load additional modules from a floppy?

I really don't know why it's happening.  I will file a bug on hw-detect.

> > 4) When finally presented with a list of ethernet drivers to pick from,
> > the requisite driver for this laptop -- b44 -- is missing.  I tried
> > switching to vc2 and doing 'modprobe -v b44', but this fails since the
> > module doesn't exist on the image.  How do we get it added?
> known bug. As of linux-kernel-di 0.12 this driver is in
> nic-extra-modules. This means you have to load it from an additional
> floppy. If this is a common NIC then we could add it to nic-modules,
> which is on the netboot initrd.

I believe it is a common NIC and it is used on all of the newer Dell
Laptops.

For the netboot images, why don't we include nic-extra-modules??
Wouldn't this make sense to do since we know that a network install is
being attempted?  It's not like we're trying to cram stuff onto a floppy
here, so why not put all the network modules we have into this image?

> > PS - This particular laptop doesn't have a serial port, so all
> > output/error messages are hand-typed and subject to typos, &c.
> You could try to save /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog to an
> already formatted partition. 

Unfortunately, I don't have a partition available that I can write to
from linux, and fdisk isn't available yet to create one.


Thanks for the help!
Joe


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Re: Bug#220163: installation-reports: netboot install attempt via PXE (fwd)

2003-11-11 Thread Joey Hess
Joe Nahmias wrote:
> 1) Install boots into the main menu.  Interface looks alot snazzier than
> the old text interface, however the line-drawing characters are all
> messed up on my terminal (corners are displayed as '>', &c.)  Known bug?

We're missing bogl-bterm and a lot of other utf-8 and terminal stuff on 
the netboot initrd. I will add it.

> 2) Picking "Choose language" doesn't get very far.  This is what I can
> piece together from syslog:
> 
> DEBUG: Menu item 'languagechooser' selected
> DEBUG: configure languagechooser, status: 4
> WARNING **: Configuring 'languagechooser' failed with error code 1
> WARNING **: Menu item 'languagechooser' failed.
> 
> Any ideas?  Known unfiled bug?  File a new bug against languagechooser?

You should probably make sure that your boot loader passes
DEBCONF_DEBUG=5 to the linux kernel at boot time. You may also want to
pass DEBCONF_PRIORITY=high to use the standard priority level. The
former would probably help track this down.

> 3) After doing 'Select a Keyboard Layout', I chose 'Detect network
> hardware'.  This generated the following two (fatal looking) errors:
> 
>   a. An error occured while running 'modprobe -v floppy false`.
>   b. An error occured while running 'modprobe -v ide-cd false`.
> 
> Since this is a netboot install, these errors should not be fatal.

The installer simply tries to detect all the hardware it can, if you
were running at the standard debconf priority you would not even see
these messages. It's not fatal at all.

I'd not mind knowing why modprobe of these modules is failing in the
first place. There should be no missing symbols.

> 4) When finally presented with a list of ethernet drivers to pick from,
> the requisite driver for this laptop -- b44 -- is missing.  I tried
> switching to vc2 and doing 'modprobe -v b44', but this fails since the
> module doesn't exist on the image.  How do we get it added?

I'm getting the impression the b44 is a common module, that's two
reports in as many days. I have added nic-extra-modules to the netboot
image in CVS, so it will support a lot more hardware in the next build,
including this one.

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Re: Bug#220163: installation-reports: netboot install attempt via PXE (fwd)

2003-11-11 Thread Joe Nahmias
Colin Watson wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 11:15:01AM +0100, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
> > Am Die, den 11.11.2003 schrieb Joe Nahmias um 09:16:
> > > [ I don't know why, but for some reason installation-reports go to ]
> > > [ debian-testing, so I'm forwarding this to debian-boot for discussion ]
> > 
> > probably someone should reassign the pseudo-package installation-reports
> > to debian-boot.
> 
> If this is the general opinion of d-i folks, then ftpmaster are the
> people to ask. (I thought sending it to -testing was originally
> deliberate, though.)

If installation-reports just contains feedback about d-i, I can't see
why that should go to -testing and not -boot.  Additionally, both the
install and installation pseudo-packages point to -boot, why not this
one?

Do I just file a bug against ftp.debian.org?

Joe


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Re: Bug#220163: installation-reports: netboot install attempt via PXE (fwd)

2003-11-11 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 12:35:49PM -0500, Joe Nahmias wrote:
> Colin Watson wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 11:15:01AM +0100, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
> > > probably someone should reassign the pseudo-package
> > > installation-reports to debian-boot.
> > 
> > If this is the general opinion of d-i folks, then ftpmaster are the
> > people to ask. (I thought sending it to -testing was originally
> > deliberate, though.)
> 
> If installation-reports just contains feedback about d-i, I can't see
> why that should go to -testing and not -boot.  Additionally, both the
> install and installation pseudo-packages point to -boot, why not this
> one?

I don't really have much of a personal stake in it either way.

> Do I just file a bug against ftp.debian.org?

Yes.

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Re: Bug#220163: installation-reports: netboot install attempt via PXE (fwd)

2003-11-11 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 11:15:01AM +0100, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
> Am Die, den 11.11.2003 schrieb Joe Nahmias um 09:16:
> > [ I don't know why, but for some reason installation-reports go to ]
> > [ debian-testing, so I'm forwarding this to debian-boot for discussion ]
> 
> probably someone should reassign the pseudo-package installation-reports
> to debian-boot.

If this is the general opinion of d-i folks, then ftpmaster are the
people to ask. (I thought sending it to -testing was originally
deliberate, though.)

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Re: Bug#220163: installation-reports: netboot install attempt via PXE (fwd)

2003-11-11 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
Am Die, den 11.11.2003 schrieb Joe Nahmias um 09:16:

> Alright, here are the highlights of how this install went:
> 
> 0) OK, after much struggling (and dealing with my nemesis error message
> 'VFS: Cannot open root device "" or 3a:04') I managed to get the d-i
> netboot image to work via PXE.  For posterity (and the installation
> guide) the magic kernel options I needed to make this work are
> "ramdisk_size=8192 root=/dev/ram0".  If anyone would like assistance
> setting up a PXE testbed or copies of various configs I use please don't
> hesitate to ask.
It would be nice, if you could write a short addition to the
INSTALLATION-HOWTO about your way to install d-i via PXE boot. There is
already a very short section on netbooting the installer. If you send a
patch to debian-boot, I will look at it and commit it to CVS.
> 
> 1) Install boots into the main menu.  Interface looks alot snazzier than
> the old text interface, however the line-drawing characters are all
> messed up on my terminal (corners are displayed as '>', &c.)  Known bug?
not know bug, please file one. Sorry I don't know which package to blame
for that. 
btw the installation should not boot into main-menu but directly go into
languagechooser.
> 
> 2) Picking "Choose language" doesn't get very far.  This is what I can
> piece together from syslog:
> 
> DEBUG: Menu item 'languagechooser' selected
> DEBUG: configure languagechooser, status: 4
> WARNING **: Configuring 'languagechooser' failed with error code 1
> WARNING **: Menu item 'languagechooser' failed.
> 
> Any ideas?  Known unfiled bug?  File a new bug against languagechooser?
> 
bug not know. You should have languagechooser 1.03 on your image, which
is the same as on the beta1 which works for most people. Please file a
bug.

> 3) After doing 'Select a Keyboard Layout', I chose 'Detect network
> hardware'.  This generated the following two (fatal looking) errors:
> 
>   a. An error occured while running 'modprobe -v floppy false`.
>   b. An error occured while running 'modprobe -v ide-cd false`.
> 
> Since this is a netboot install, these errors should not be fatal.
please file a bug on hw-detect (or ethdetect?). It's strange that these
are tried for network hardware detection. Probably the installer tries
to load additional modules from a floppy?

> 
> 4) When finally presented with a list of ethernet drivers to pick from,
> the requisite driver for this laptop -- b44 -- is missing.  I tried
> switching to vc2 and doing 'modprobe -v b44', but this fails since the
> module doesn't exist on the image.  How do we get it added?
known bug. As of linux-kernel-di 0.12 this driver is in
nic-extra-modules. This means you have to load it from an additional
floppy. If this is a common NIC then we could add it to nic-modules,
which is on the netboot initrd.


> PS - This particular laptop doesn't have a serial port, so all
> output/error messages are hand-typed and subject to typos, &c.
You could try to save /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog to an
already formatted partition. 

gaudenz


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Re: Bug#220163: installation-reports: netboot install attempt via PXE (fwd)

2003-11-11 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
Am Die, den 11.11.2003 schrieb Joe Nahmias um 09:16:
> [ I don't know why, but for some reason installation-reports go to ]
> [ debian-testing, so I'm forwarding this to debian-boot for discussion ]
> 
probably someone should reassign the pseudo-package installation-reports
to debian-boot. I, Sebastian and Sesse sorted and closed a bunch of
reports last night. They all went to the pseudo package
installation-reports and were only forwarded to debian-testing.

gaudenz


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