Re: debian-installer tasks for debcamp

2003-07-14 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Martin Sjögren 

| Hello everbody. I'm sure you're just aching to know how to help the
| debian-installer project :-) so I thought I'd post a list of a few
| things that I know we need help with. We probably need a lot more help
| than I can think of right now, but feel free to reply to the mail and
| add more things.

[...]

| * We have a terrible lack of usb and pcmcia support. A lot of work
| is needed here. Can't tell you more about this, since I know
| basically nothing about it.
| 
| * There's of course the [4]porting...

We'll have at least a few powerpcs around, and I think somebody was
bringing a MIPS motherboard as well.

| * The network configuration stuff is something of a mess, really. dhcp
| should be much smoother, and should really hostname configuration be in
| netcfg?

no, it should probably be in base-config, but if the dhcp client has
gotten any extra information, it should be passed on so that both the
rest of d-i and base-config can get at it.  dhcp is an incredibly
powerful protocol..

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Re: [Debcamp] Re: Re: debian-installer tasks for debcamp

2003-07-13 Thread Matt Kraai
On Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 12:46:16PM +0100, Peter Karlsson wrote:
> Martin Sj?gren:
> 
> > *cough* But there are probably a lot of messages that won't change
> > all that much, that can be translated.
> 
> Great. Where do I check the sources out?

Thus sayeth the README:

  For Debian developers:
  --
  
 cvs -d:ext:@cvs.debian.org:/cvs/debian-boot co debian-installer
  
  For non-DDs:
  
  
 cvs -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs/debian-boot login
 cvs -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs/debian-boot co debian-installer

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Re: Re: debian-installer tasks for debcamp

2003-07-13 Thread Peter Karlsson
Martin Sjögren:

> *cough* But there are probably a lot of messages that won't change
> all that much, that can be translated.

Great. Where do I check the sources out?

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Re: [Debcamp] Re: debian-installer tasks for debcamp

2003-07-13 Thread Martin Sjögren
sön 2003-07-13 klockan 11.25 skrev Peter Karlsson:
> Martin Sjögren:
> 
> > We probably need a lot more help than I can think of right now, but
> > feel free to reply to the mail and add more things.
> 
> I would love to get started on the Swedish translation of the
> installer, if that's possible (or even wise, considering how much will
> change before the release).

A lot of things will change, for sure, many of the current messages are
mostly "placeholders", like the main-menu "Here is the main menu" ;) and
there will be a lot *more* messages, when we finally have some decent
error handling. *cough* But there are probably a lot of messages that
won't change all that much, that can be translated.

You are of course more than welcome to help us fill in these gaps, too!


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Re: debian-installer tasks for debcamp

2003-07-13 Thread Peter Karlsson
Martin Sjögren:

> We probably need a lot more help than I can think of right now, but
> feel free to reply to the mail and add more things.

I would love to get started on the Swedish translation of the
installer, if that's possible (or even wise, considering how much will
change before the release).

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debian-installer tasks for debcamp

2003-07-13 Thread Martin Sjögren
Hello everbody. I'm sure you're just aching to know how to help the
debian-installer project :-) so I thought I'd post a list of a few
things that I know we need help with. We probably need a lot more help
than I can think of right now, but feel free to reply to the mail and
add more things.

* There's a [1]bug list for d-i. Not all bugs in the list are d-i bugs,
since the page lists all the bugs in the corresponding source packages.

* We've been mainly using the [2]text frontend on the sarge test CDs for
a very simple reason. We are not sure which udebs might accidentally
print some interesting debug output to stderr. There's also a (IMNSHO,
since I wrote it) prettier [3]newt frontend, that has the drawback of
overwriting things a udeb prints. :) Thus, we need somebody or
preferrably somebodIES to go through all udebs and ensure that nothing
is ever ever ever printed to stdout or stderr. Relevant error messages
should be presented with debconf and a lot of things should probably be
logged. This doesn't require much expertise in the d-i design and may be
a good way to get started with d-i. (random idea, maybe a
libdebconf-errno would be neat?)

* Testing. Testing. Testing. Do you have arcane hardware that we can
test d-i on? Terrific! Do you have general comments on the interface?
Terrific! Note, however that I will not listen to comments like
"text-based installers suck, you should have a GUI installer, why don't
you have a GUI installer yet?"

* We have a terrible lack of usb and pcmcia support. A lot of work is
needed here. Can't tell you more about this, since I know basically
nothing about it.

* There's of course the [4]porting...

* Some people have been talking about a d-i [5]homepage. I dunno what
should be on it, but maybe someone feels like working on this...

* base-installer/debootstrap needs a proper progress bar, I intend to
work on this, even if it means chaining aj to a chair to make him help
me.

* The network configuration stuff is something of a mess, really. dhcp
should be much smoother, and should really hostname configuration be in
netcfg?

* I intend to hack a lot on cdebconf. There are plenty of fixed-size
buffers all over the code, that I will need help to eliminate. Die,
fixed-size buffers, DIE!


Well, that's what I could think of from the top of my head. There is
more things to do, that we'll think of later. :)

[1] http://bugs.qa.debian.org/cgi-bin/debian-installer.cgi?full=yes
[2] http://people.debian.org/~sjogren/d-i/screenshots/2003-02-16/text/
[3] http://people.debian.org/~sjogren/d-i/screenshots/2003-07-13/newt/
[4] http://people.debian.org/~pere/debian-installer/ports-status.html
[5] http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot-0307/msg00048.html


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