Re: possibility of jessie-kfreebsd suite
Hi, Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org writes: Ansgar Burchardt wrote: [...] There should now be all suites needed for kfreebsd: - jessie-kfreebsd AIUI that suite was pre-populated some days ago with a snapshot of jessie. But I've noticed a few packages missing; lists attached. Have you any ideas why? I only looked at one package, but I guess the problem is the same for all packages: They are in the suite (see dak ls libc0.1), but the overrides are no longer there. I guess this happened in the final dinstall run before the release: there is a step to update testing's overrides and I assume it did remove the overrides for packages only in testing-kfreebsd, but not in testing. They should reappear with the next dinstall run. Ansgar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bsd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87d22prid7@deep-thought.43-1.org
Re: possibility of jessie-kfreebsd suite
Ansgar Burchardt wrote: They are in the suite (see dak ls libc0.1), but the overrides are no longer there. I guess this happened in the final dinstall run before the release: there is a step to update testing's overrides and I assume it did remove the overrides for packages only in testing-kfreebsd, but not in testing. They should reappear with the next dinstall run. They came back. Thanks a lot! Regards, -- Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: possibility of jessie-kfreebsd suite
Steven Chamberlain wrote: Ansgar Burchardt wrote: [...] There should now be all suites needed for kfreebsd: - jessie-kfreebsd AIUI that suite was pre-populated some days ago with a snapshot of jessie. But I've noticed a few packages missing; lists attached. Have you any ideas why? These packages were removed from jessie-kfreebsd suite sometime between: http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20150424T154007Z/dists/jessie-kfreebsd/main/binary-kfreebsd-amd64/Packages.gz --- a/Packages 2015-04-24 11:26:38.0 +0100 and http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20150424T213452Z/dists/jessie-kfreebsd/main/binary-kfreebsd-amd64/Packages.gz +++ b/Packages 2015-04-24 23:27:00.0 +0100 which I think coincides with some planned removals from the main *jessie* suite. Somehow these got removed from jessie-kfreebsd too? Regards, -- Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bsd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150426234124.gc75...@pyro.eu.org
Re: possibility of jessie-kfreebsd suite
Hi Ansgar, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: [...] There should now be all suites needed for kfreebsd: - jessie-kfreebsd AIUI that suite was pre-populated some days ago with a snapshot of jessie. But I've noticed a few packages missing; lists attached. Have you any ideas why? I computed these from a zdiff between: http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20150424T154007Z/dists/jessie/main/binary-kfreebsd-amd64/Packages.gz and http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie-kfreebsd/main/binary-kfreebsd-amd64/Packages.gz http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20150424T154007Z/dists/jessie/main/binary-kfreebsd-i386/Packages.gz and http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie-kfreebsd/main/binary-kfreebsd-i386/Packages.gz Some are kfreebsd-specific packages so there is probably an obvious reason they were missed. But some are unrelated to kfreebsd with nothing obvious in common. Thanks, Regards, -- Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org cuse4bsd-dkms devd dhcpcd5 freebsd-net-tools freebsd-nfs-common freebsd-nfs-server freebsd-ppp freebsd-quota freebsd-smbfs freebsd-utils fuse4bsd geom k8temp kbdcontrol kfreebsd-headers-10.1-0 kfreebsd-headers-10.1-0-amd64 kfreebsd-headers-10-amd64 kfreebsd-headers-amd64 kfreebsd-image-10.1-0-amd64 kfreebsd-image-10-amd64 kfreebsd-image-amd64 kfreebsd-kernel-headers kldutils ktrace libalias7 libalias-dev libc0.1 libc0.1-dbg libc0.1-dev libc0.1-dev-i386 libc0.1-i386 libc0.1-pic libcam6 libcam-dev libcuse4bsd1 libcuse4bsd-dev libdevstat7 libdevstat-dev libgeom1 libgeom-dev libgio-fam libhidapi0 libhidapi0-dbg libhsqldb1.8.0-java-gcj libinotify0 libinotify-dev libjail1 libjail-dev libkiconv4 libkiconv-dev libkvm6 libkvm-dev libmemstat3 libmemstat-dev libnetgraph4 libnetgraph-dev libnvpair2 liboss4-salsa-dev libumem2 libusb2-dev libusb3 libusbhid4debian libusbhid-dev libuutil2 libzfs2 libzpool2 mkuzip mlton-runtime-x86-64-kfreebsd-gnu openbgpd pf powerd qtcreator qtcreator-dbg s3ql s3ql-dbg ufsutils vidcontrol zfsutils alevtd athcool cuse4bsd-dkms devd dhcpcd5 fenix fenix-plugin-mpeg fenix-plugins fenix-plugins-system flexpart freebsd-net-tools freebsd-nfs-common freebsd-nfs-server freebsd-ppp freebsd-quota freebsd-smbfs freebsd-utils fuse4bsd gcc-m68hc1x geom gnumach gnumach-dbg gnumach-dev gnumach-image-1.4-486 gnumach-image-1.4-486-dbg gnumach-image-1-486 gnumach-image-1.4-xen-486 gnumach-image-1.4-xen-486-dbg gnumach-image-1-xen-486 k8temp kbdcontrol kfreebsd-headers-10.1-0 kfreebsd-headers-10.1-0-486 kfreebsd-headers-10.1-0-686 kfreebsd-headers-10.1-0-xen kfreebsd-headers-10-486 kfreebsd-headers-10-686 kfreebsd-headers-10-xen kfreebsd-headers-486 kfreebsd-headers-686 kfreebsd-headers-xen kfreebsd-image-10.1-0-486 kfreebsd-image-10.1-0-686 kfreebsd-image-10.1-0-xen kfreebsd-image-10-486 kfreebsd-image-10-686 kfreebsd-image-10-xen kfreebsd-image-486 kfreebsd-image-686 kfreebsd-image-xen kfreebsd-kernel-headers kldutils ktrace libalias7 libalias-dev libc0.1 libc0.1-dbg libc0.1-dev libc0.1-i686 libc0.1-pic libcam6 libcam-dev libcuse4bsd1 libcuse4bsd-dev libdevel-bt-perl libdevstat7 libdevstat-dev libgeom1 libgeom-dev libgio-fam libgl1-mesa-swx11-i686 libhidapi0 libhidapi0-dbg libhsqldb1.8.0-java-gcj libinotify0 libinotify-dev libjail1 libjail-dev libkiconv4 libkiconv-dev libkvm6 libkvm-dev libluajit-5.1-2 libluajit-5.1-dev libmemstat3 libmemstat-dev libnetgraph4 libnetgraph-dev libnetxx1 libnetxx-dev libnvpair2 liboss4-salsa-dev libumem2 libusb2-dev libusb3 libusbhid4debian libusbhid-dev libuutil2 libwine libwine-alsa libwine-bin libwine-cms libwine-dbg libwine-dev libwine-development libwine-development-dbg libwine-development-dev libwine-gl libwine-gphoto2 libwine-ldap libwine-openal libwine-oss libwine-print libwine-sane libyade libzfs2 libzpool2 luajit mig mkuzip mlton-runtime-i486-kfreebsd-gnu ntopng ntopng-dbg nyquist openbgpd pf pforth pia picolisp powerd python-yade qtcreator qtcreator-dbg r-cran-tgp rio s3ql s3ql-dbg sb16ctrl-bochs scantv scsh-0.6 set6x86 streamer ttv ufsutils uwsgi-plugin-luajit vidcontrol webcam wine32 wine32-development wine32-development-tools wine32-dev-tools wine32-tools wine-bin wine-development xawtv xawtv-dbg xawtv-plugin-qt xawtv-plugins xawtv-tools xserver-xorg-video-geode xserver-xorg-video-geode-dbg yade zfsutils zsnes zsnes-dbg signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: possibility of jessie-kfreebsd suite
Ansgar Burchardt wrote: I already did so in the last days. There should now be all suites needed for kfreebsd: - jessie-kfreebsd - jessie-kfreebsd-proposed-updates - buildd-jessie-kfreebsd-proposed-updates (on incoming.debian.org) - jessie-kfreebsd (on security.d.o) - buildd-jessie-kfreebsd (on security.d.o, non-public) Perfect, thanks so much! Regards. -- Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bsd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150425152908.ga3...@pyro.eu.org
Re: possibility of jessie-kfreebsd suite
Dear FTP masters, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: + Ideally -release@ would accept us in testing as long as possible (without any blocking characteristics there) and we copy everything that is not superseeded in jessie-kfreebsd there rather late Well, kfreebsd is still in testing for now ;) ...and now it is probably 'rather late', so please could ftpmasters create that jessie-kfreebsd suite now, taking a copy of whatever is in the main jessie suite for kfreebsd-* (and arch: all I guess)? That seems to be the first step, and must happen before release team deletes the kfreebsd architectures. I don't think we're releasing kfreebsd for a couple more weeks, so still have more time to think about how security updates will be handled or if there will be some proposed-updates queue for this. Copying everything from testing should not be too complicated if we only need to do so once. I hope so! Thanks, Regards, -- Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: possibility of jessie-kfreebsd suite
On 2015-03-10 12:38, Christoph Egger wrote: Ansgar and me have been discussing the archive setup for jessie-kfreebsd yesterday. Basically there's going to be a jessie-kfreebsd and jessie-p-u-kfreebsd thing on ftp-master where the jessie-p-u-kfreebsd automatically pulls in new uploads from jessie-p-u via some dak script (allowing special +kbsd versions and local packages for -bsd@ as well). For our preferred setup we'd need a bit of your help: When accepting security uploads from stable/new into jessie-p-u would it be possible to also trigger the sync from updates/jessie-kfreebsd [0] to -p-u-kfreebsd? This should avoid having different binaries in the seucirity and -p-u jessie-kfreebsd suites. I have to admit that I'm confused as to how this would work in practice. For the avoidance of any possible doubt, the Release Team don't (and can't) sync anything from the security archive. Uploads are pushed from security, and then hit the stable-NEW queue and are processed from there. If jessie-p-u-kfreebsd will also include packages that aren't in jessie-pu then someone will presumably need to be managing a policy queue for that. Who's that expected to be? Would it not make more sense just to have uploads from updates/jessie-kfreebsd mapped on ftp-master to the policy queue for jessie-p-u-kfreebsd and then have them processed as usual from there? Based on the above, I'm not sure it makes sense to couple the updates-stable-new-pu migration to the updates/kbsd-stable-new-kbsd-pu-kbsd migration. As an additional point, I can easily see cases arising where the packages from security-kfreebsd are all present but there are missing uploads for the Linux architectures, or vice-versa. Regards, Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bsd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/9de72c308bde27d5d4e6c654887fd...@mail.adsl.funky-badger.org
Re: possibility of jessie-kfreebsd suite
Hi! Ansgar and me have been discussing the archive setup for jessie-kfreebsd yesterday. Basically there's going to be a jessie-kfreebsd and jessie-p-u-kfreebsd thing on ftp-master where the jessie-p-u-kfreebsd automatically pulls in new uploads from jessie-p-u via some dak script (allowing special +kbsd versions and local packages for -bsd@ as well). For our preferred setup we'd need a bit of your help: When accepting security uploads from stable/new into jessie-p-u would it be possible to also trigger the sync from updates/jessie-kfreebsd [0] to -p-u-kfreebsd? This should avoid having different binaries in the seucirity and -p-u jessie-kfreebsd suites. Christoph [0] pending agreement on the -security side signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: possibility of jessie-kfreebsd suite
Hi, Christoph Egger christ...@debian.org writes: Ansgar Burchardt ans...@debian.org writes: Christoph Egger christ...@debian.org writes: I was told you would be supportive of an unofficial kfreebsd jessie release and willing to add a suite for that. Guess I write here what I think would be best from our point of view and you tell me if I'm crazy or not: + There would be a jessie-kfreebsd thing next to the normal jessie with kfreebsd folks responsible for + Ideally that jessie-kfreebsd thing would exist as soon as possible so we can do our release preparations there I think we can setup a jessie-kfreebsd suite. I guess it should - just accept uploads (provided versions are greater-equal testing) Sounds OK to me. just accept uploads means uploads from any DD/DM or some list of keys? I guess it's easy to get the ACCEPTED mail for all uploads to that suite to a mailinglist? Yes and yes. Moritz Mühlenhoff j...@inutil.org writes: Sorry for the late reply. I'm afraid noone in the security team is sufficiently familiar with the wanna-build setup, but I if implementable by w-b I think it would be good to have the kfreebsd builds being triggered once they are released through security.debian.org (we can probably hook that into the dak security-install command or something similar). The kfreebsd buildds are fast and should be able to build everything in acceptable time. Right. For the wb side I do have some (limited) insight. Who would need to hook that into security-install? Hmm, does the security team plan to support kfreebsd? That is should there also be a jessie-kfreebsd/updates suite on security.d.o? I imagine we would want to automatically copy source+all packages from jessie/updates to jessie-kfreebsd/updates in that case. Probably needs some additional code in dak, but some of that I think I want to have anyway. Ansgar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bsd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87mw5zx1m1@deep-thought.43-1.org
Re: possibility of jessie-kfreebsd suite
On Sat, Jan 03, 2015 at 05:36:38PM +0100, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: Hi, Moritz Mühlenhoff j...@inutil.org writes: Sorry for the late reply. I'm afraid noone in the security team is sufficiently familiar with the wanna-build setup, but I if implementable by w-b I think it would be good to have the kfreebsd builds being triggered once they are released through security.debian.org (we can probably hook that into the dak security-install command or something similar). The kfreebsd buildds are fast and should be able to build everything in acceptable time. Right. For the wb side I do have some (limited) insight. Who would need to hook that into security-install? Hmm, does the security team plan to support kfreebsd? Not specifically, the plan is basically to trigger the builds for kfreebsd-* with the release of the DSA (hence plugging it into dak security-install). Cheers, Moritz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bsd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150103234952.ga19...@inutil.org
Re: possibility of jessie-kfreebsd suite
Hi!
Ansgar Burchardt ans...@debian.org writes:
Christoph Egger christ...@debian.org writes:
I was told you would be supportive of an unofficial kfreebsd jessie
release and willing to add a suite for that. Guess I write here what I
think would be best from our point of view and you tell me if I'm crazy
or not:
+ There would be a jessie-kfreebsd thing next to the normal jessie
with kfreebsd folks responsible for
+ Ideally that jessie-kfreebsd thing would exist as soon as possible so
we can do our release preparations there
I think we can setup a jessie-kfreebsd suite. I guess it should
- just accept uploads (provided versions are greater-equal testing)
Sounds OK to me. just accept uploads means uploads from any DD/DM or
some list of keys? I guess it's easy to get the ACCEPTED mail for all
uploads to that suite to a mailinglist?
- contain just 3 archs: all, kfreebsd-{i386,amd64}
- have no extra policy queues, and
- share overrides with jessie.
Uploads should probably include a specific suffix to avoid version
clashes with the offical release (for source and arch:all packages).
I'll keep that in mind!
+ Ideally -release@ would accept us in testing as long as possible
(without any blocking characteristics there) and we copy everything
that is not superseeded in jessie-kfreebsd there rather late
Well, kfreebsd is still in testing for now ;)
Jep I'm quite happy about that!
Moritz Mühlenhoff j...@inutil.org writes:
Sorry for the late reply. I'm afraid noone in the security team is
sufficiently familiar with the wanna-build setup, but I if implementable
by w-b I think it would be good to have the kfreebsd builds being triggered
once they are released through security.debian.org (we can probably hook
that into the dak security-install command or something similar). The
kfreebsd buildds are fast and should be able to build everything in acceptable
time.
Right. For the wb side I do have some (limited) insight. Who would need
to hook that into security-install?
Christoph
NB: anyone here at CCC in Hamburg at the moment?
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Re: possibility of jessie-kfreebsd suite
Hi,
Christoph Egger christ...@debian.org writes:
I was told you would be supportive of an unofficial kfreebsd jessie
release and willing to add a suite for that. Guess I write here what I
think would be best from our point of view and you tell me if I'm crazy
or not:
+ There would be a jessie-kfreebsd thing next to the normal jessie
with kfreebsd folks responsible for
+ Ideally that jessie-kfreebsd thing would exist as soon as possible so
we can do our release preparations there
I think we can setup a jessie-kfreebsd suite. I guess it should
- just accept uploads (provided versions are greater-equal testing)
- contain just 3 archs: all, kfreebsd-{i386,amd64}
- have no extra policy queues, and
- share overrides with jessie.
Uploads should probably include a specific suffix to avoid version
clashes with the offical release (for source and arch:all packages).
+ Ideally -release@ would accept us in testing as long as possible
(without any blocking characteristics there) and we copy everything
that is not superseeded in jessie-kfreebsd there rather late
Well, kfreebsd is still in testing for now ;)
The last point of course depends on what release thinks of it and the
implications for them. And I have no idea if it's reasonably easy for
you to do a copy everything apart from the things we already uploaded
separately.
Copying everything from testing should not be too complicated if we only
need to do so once.
Ansgar
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