Bug#292888: FWD: Re: Bug#292888: Installation story on Acer TravelMate 4000WLMi notebook

2005-03-01 Thread Joey Hess
- Forwarded message from Sarantos Kapidakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

From: Sarantos Kapidakis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 22:27:24 +0200
To: wen [EMAIL PROTECTED], Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: debian-boot@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#292888: Installation story on Acer TravelMate 4000WLMi notebook
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Since there is followup interest, I should reply.
Joey,
thank you for your answer.

On Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 02:55:26PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
 Sarantos Kapidakis wrote:
  There is an incompatibility between the kernel and my hardhare.
  This prevents me booting on most normal ways - e.g. using knoppix or
  Debian default boot methods.
  I managed to boot knoppix, using the failsafe option.
  Debian should also have a way to omit utilizing some of my hardware,
  to help the system boot on kernel incompatibilities.
 
 The installer does. Type expert at the boot prompt and you will be
 prompted for which hardware drivers to load. Or are you talking only about
 problems after the base system is installed, such as your i810_audio
 problem?

My problems were since the initial kernel loading.
I did not try the expert option, though, and I cannot varify if this works, or 
the exact arguments for this.
At this moment, I already have a running system (by partitioning from a knoppix 
live CD system, and bootstrapping to debian).

  In order to be able to boot later, I had to prohibit loading the i810_audio 
  module.
  Every time Debian rebuilds the modules.conf file, my system is not 
  bootable, and I have to boot using knoppix to correct this (alias 
  i810_audio off).
 
 A comment at the top of /etc/modules.conf explains that you should not
 edit the file directly and what to do instead.

I know.
To be safe, I completely removed the module code from my system.

I have also added a file /etc/modutils/acerWLMi containing
alias i810_audio off # avoid system crash

 -- 
 see shy jo



On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 02:53:23PM +0100, wen wrote:
 If I understand the answer (http://www.archivum.info/debian-boot%
 40lists.debian.org/2005-02/msg00379.html) to that bug report correctly,
 the bug has been closed, recommending to boot with the option expert?
 
 I guess I got the same problem and I can't even boot from CD in expert
 mode. I got an ACER Travelmate 4002LMi. Trying to install sarge I get to
 the boot prompt. Trying to boot I either get a grey screen (with kernel
 2.4) or the process hangs at 
 ACPI:IRQ9 SCI: Edge set to level Trigger 
 (when using kernel 2.6). Also the options acpi=off, nodma, noapic
 nolapic don't make a difference. Also typing expert makes the process
 hang at the mentioned line.
 I both tried to boot with the sarge netinstaller rc2 and a three weeks
 old CD 1 of the sarge CD-set. The results are the same.
 
 
 By the way: kanotix does boot when using the acpi off, dma off-mode.
 
 
 Output of lspci:
 :00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82852/855GM Host Bridge (rev 02)
 :00:00.1 System peripheral: Intel Corp. 855GM/GME GMCH Memory I/O
 Control Registers (rev 02)
 :00:00.3 System peripheral: Intel Corp. 855GM/GME GMCH Configuration
 Process Registers (rev 02)
 :00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 855GME GMCH Host-to-AGP Bridge
 (Virtual PCI-to-PCI) (rev 02)
 :00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM
 (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 03)
 :00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM
 (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 03)
 :00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM
 (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 03)
 :00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-M) USB
 2.0 EHCI Controller (rev 03)
 :00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 83)
 :00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801DBM LPC Interface Controller
 (rev 03)
 :00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801DBM (ICH4) Ultra ATA
 Storage Controller (rev 03)
 :00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M)
 SMBus Controller (rev 03)
 :00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM
 (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
 :00:1f.6 Modem: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M)
 AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 03)
 :01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350
 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10]
 :02:02.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401 100Base-T
 (rev 01)
 :02:04.0 Network controller: Intel Corp. PRO/Wireless 2200BG (rev
 05)
 :02:06.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments: Unknown device 8031
 :02:06.2 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments: Unknown device
 8032
 :02:06.3 Unknown mass storage controller: Texas Instruments: Unknown
 device 8033
 

It could be part of the same problem, as my problems were not limited to the 
one mentioned above.  Here are some other problems I have as I interpret them:

The module i810_audio hangs the system [this was in my initial

Bug#292888: Installation story on Acer TravelMate 4000WLMi notebook

2005-02-11 Thread Joey Hess
Sarantos Kapidakis wrote:
 There is an incompatibility between the kernel and my hardhare.
 This prevents me booting on most normal ways - e.g. using knoppix or
 Debian default boot methods.
 I managed to boot knoppix, using the failsafe option.
 Debian should also have a way to omit utilizing some of my hardware,
 to help the system boot on kernel incompatibilities.

The installer does. Type expert at the boot prompt and you will be
prompted for which hardware drivers to load. Or are you talking only about
problems after the base system is installed, such as your i810_audio
problem?

 In order to be able to boot later, I had to prohibit loading the i810_audio 
 module.
 Every time Debian rebuilds the modules.conf file, my system is not bootable, 
 and I have to boot using knoppix to correct this (alias i810_audio off).

A comment at the top of /etc/modules.conf explains that you should not
edit the file directly and what to do instead.

-- 
see shy jo


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Bug#292888: Installation story on Acer TravelMate 4000WLMi notebook

2005-01-30 Thread Sarantos Kapidakis
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INSTALL REPORT

Debian-installer-version: 2005-01-13, official sarge-i386-netinst.iso
uname -a: Linux eva 2.4.27-2-686 #1 Thu Dec 30 18:26:31 JST 2004 i686 GNU/Linux
Date: 2005-01-15
Method: bootstrapping (-- more on this later).
Machine: Acer TravelMate 4000WLMi notebook
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.40GHz
Memory: 512Mb
Root Device: IDE
Root Size/partition table:
/dev/hda1 : start=   63, size=  6152832, Id=12 Acer Disk-to-Disk recovery
/dev/hda2 : start=  6152895, size=  8385930, Id=83 /
/dev/hda3 : start= 14538825, size= 20964825, Id= c, bootable XP
/dev/hda4 : start= 35503650, size= 81706590, Id= f
/dev/hda5 : start= 35503713, size= 67087377, Id= b
/dev/hda6 : start=102591153, size=  6297417, Id=83 /usr/local
/dev/hda7 : start=10633, size=  8321607, Id=83 /home
I have installed grub on /dev/hda
and use bootpart on XP (default bootable partition) to boot on Debian
Output of lspci:
:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82852/855GM Host Bridge (rev 02)
:00:00.1 System peripheral: Intel Corp. 855GM/GME GMCH Memory I/O Control 
Registers (rev 02)
:00:00.3 System peripheral: Intel Corp. 855GM/GME GMCH Configuration 
Process Registers (rev 02)
:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 855GME GMCH Host-to-AGP Bridge (Virtual 
PCI-to-PCI) (rev 02)
:00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) 
USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 03)
:00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) 
USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 03)
:00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) 
USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 03)
:00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-M) USB 2.0 EHCI 
Controller (rev 03)
:00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 83)
:00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801DBM LPC Interface Controller (rev 03)
:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801DBM (ICH4) Ultra ATA Storage 
Controller (rev 03)
:00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) SMBus 
Controller (rev 03)
:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM 
(ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
:00:1f.6 Modem: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 
Modem Controller (rev 03)
:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility 
Radeon 9600 M10]
:02:02.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401 100Base-T (rev 
01)
:02:04.0 Network controller: Intel Corp. PRO/Wireless 2200BG (rev 05)
:02:06.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments: Unknown device 8031
:02:06.2 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments: Unknown device 8032
:02:06.3 Unknown mass storage controller: Texas Instruments: Unknown device 
8033
Output of lspci -n:
:00:00.0 0600: 8086:3580 (rev 02)
:00:00.1 0880: 8086:3584 (rev 02)
:00:00.3 0880: 8086:3585 (rev 02)
:00:01.0 0604: 8086:3581 (rev 02)
:00:1d.0 0c03: 8086:24c2 (rev 03)
:00:1d.1 0c03: 8086:24c4 (rev 03)
:00:1d.2 0c03: 8086:24c7 (rev 03)
:00:1d.7 0c03: 8086:24cd (rev 03)
:00:1e.0 0604: 8086:2448 (rev 83)
:00:1f.0 0601: 8086:24cc (rev 03)
:00:1f.1 0101: 8086:24ca (rev 03)
:00:1f.3 0c05: 8086:24c3 (rev 03)
:00:1f.5 0401: 8086:24c5 (rev 03)
:00:1f.6 0703: 8086:24c6 (rev 03)
:01:00.0 0300: 1002:4e50
:02:02.0 0200: 14e4:4401 (rev 01)
:02:04.0 0280: 8086:4220 (rev 05)
:02:06.0 0607: 104c:8031
:02:06.2 0c00: 104c:8032
:02:06.3 0180: 104c:8033

Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot worked:[E]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [E]
Detect hard drives: [E]
Partition hard drives:  [ ]
Create file systems:[ ]
Mount partitions:   [ ]
Install base system:[ ]
Install boot loader:[ ]
Reboot: [E]

Comments/Problems:
There is an incompatibility between the kernel and my hardhare.
This prevents me booting on most normal ways - e.g. using knoppix or
Debian default boot methods.
I managed to boot knoppix, using the failsafe option.
Debian should also have a way to omit utilizing some of my hardware,
to help the system boot on kernel incompatibilities.

The boot image (and all other boot debian images I tried) did not work.
The system crashed on loading some kernel modules.
I booted using knoppix, formatted the partitions, and used the bootstrapping
to install the system from the network.

I understand that this is a kernel problem, so I tried all other availabe 
(precompiled) versions of the kernel, but the module still crashes the system.
I include later information about this problem (with one of ythe versions of 
the kernel)

In order to be able to boot later, I had to prohibit loading the i810_audio 
module.
Every time Debian rebuilds the modules.conf file, my system is not bootable, 
and I have