Bug#360612: seminar package bug corrections files are out of date

2009-05-06 Thread Joerg Dorchain
On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 11:30:19AM +0200, Hilmar Preusse wrote:
  
 The seminar.bg2 is now up to date in Debian, the seminar.bg3 not. I
 propose to close the bug now. What do you think?

Personally I do not care too much about this bug. It has cost me
some time to find out why a certain file did not work on my
debian system. It might save some time for others nevertheless.

Setting it to won't fix would be fine with me as well.

Bye,

Joerg


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Bug#360612: seminar package bug corrections files are out of date

2009-05-05 Thread Hilmar Preusse
On 03.04.06 Joerg Dorchain (jo...@dorchain.net) wrote:

Hi,

 trying to use slides following the instructions at
 http://astronomy.sussex.ac.uk/~eddie/soft/tutorial.html, I noticed
 that the seminar.bg2 file is out of date on debian, the seminar.bg3
 file is missing.  I attach them here for reference.  Thanks for
 including them.
 
The seminar.bg2 is now up to date in Debian, the seminar.bg3 not. I
propose to close the bug now. What do you think?

H.
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Bug#360612: seminar package bug corrections files are out of date

2006-05-02 Thread Hilmar Preusse
tags 360612 + wontfix
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On 30.04.06 Joerg Dorchain ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Sun, Apr 30, 2006 at 08:44:48PM +0200, Hilmar Preusse wrote:

Hi,

  I suggest to tag that bug as wonfix and wait until the file made
  it into upstream and the upstream release into Debian. If teTeX
  dies it will happen in a TeX-Live release.
 
 Fine with me. So others can see the bug and an appropriate
 workaround.
 
Thanks. Doing so.

H.
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Bug#360612: seminar package bug corrections files are out of date

2006-04-30 Thread Hilmar Preusse
On 04.04.06 Frank Küster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Joerg Dorchain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Joerg,

  seminar.bg3 is taken from a usenet post. Reference is e.g.
  http://groups.google.com/group/fr.comp.text.tex/msg/e1e905508b0de896?output=gplain
  or news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  (Sorry, french only)
 
  The author is obviously the same Denis GIROU who supposedly maintains
  http://tug.org/applications/Seminar/Seminar-Bugs.html.
 
snip
 
 As I said, we generally don't update single files in tetex, because
 it would simply be too much work - it would mean to maintain our
 own, Debian-specific TeX distribution.  We do consider updating
 certain critical things, but for sure this requires that the
 upstream author says you should *really* have this, and not just
 posts it somewhere in Usenet.
 
Is that a acceptable answer for you?
In texmf.cnf should be a local texmf tree be defined and you're free
to put the file in question into that one. You may even divert
seminar.bg2 if it is necessary.
I suggest to tag that bug as wonfix and wait until the file made it
into upstream and the upstream release into Debian. If teTeX dies it
will happen in a TeX-Live release.

Regards,
  Hilmar
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Bug#360612: seminar package bug corrections files are out of date

2006-04-30 Thread Joerg Dorchain
On Sun, Apr 30, 2006 at 08:44:48PM +0200, Hilmar Preusse wrote:
  
  As I said, we generally don't update single files in tetex, because
  it would simply be too much work - it would mean to maintain our
  own, Debian-specific TeX distribution.  We do consider updating
  certain critical things, but for sure this requires that the
  upstream author says you should *really* have this, and not just
  posts it somewhere in Usenet.
  
 Is that a acceptable answer for you?

Not really, but...

 In texmf.cnf should be a local texmf tree be defined and you're free
 to put the file in question into that one. You may even divert
 seminar.bg2 if it is necessary.

This is much more suitable. Thank you for explaining the package setup.

 I suggest to tag that bug as wonfix and wait until the file made it
 into upstream and the upstream release into Debian. If teTeX dies it
 will happen in a TeX-Live release.

Fine with me. So others can see the bug and an appropriate workaround.

Thank you for looking into this gain.

Bye,

Joerg


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Bug#360612: seminar package bug corrections files are out of date

2006-04-04 Thread Frank Küster
Joerg Dorchain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Package: tetex-extra
 Version: 3.0-17
 Tags: Patch

 Hi,

 trying to use slides following the instructions at
 http://astronomy.sussex.ac.uk/~eddie/soft/tutorial.html, I noticed that
 the seminar.bg2 file is out of date on debian, the seminar.bg3 file is
 missing. I attach them here for reference. Thanks for including them.

Sorry, but we generally do not update specific packages in the
collection, but instead wait for a new upstream release.  Exceptions can
only be made if the update is really critical.  seminar.bg3 doesn't even
exist on CTAN.

Regards, Frank
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Debian Developer (teTeX)




Bug#360612: seminar package bug corrections files are out of date

2006-04-04 Thread Frank Küster
Joerg Dorchain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sorry, but we generally do not update specific packages in the
 collection, but instead wait for a new upstream release.  Exceptions can
 only be made if the update is really critical.  seminar.bg3 doesn't even
 exist on CTAN.

 As new upstreams for TeX can take some time (the debian seminar.bg2
 version is dated 1998), I wanted to share updates by opening this bug
 report. 

Yes, well, bad.  Why do you want a private conversation about this?  I
assume this was a mistake, and send this answer to the bug again.

I don't know anything about seminar's update cycles, nor whether they
are regularly uploaded to CTAN.  teTeX 3.0 generally includes files from
CTAN up to February 2005.  If people don't upload their stuff, I can't
help.

Moreover, the file seminar.bg3 you sent doesn't contain any copyright
and license statement, and therefore may not be distributed.  Upstream
should correct that, and it would also be nice to know where upstream
is. 

Regards, 
-- 
Frank Küster
Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding @ Inst. f. Biochemie, Univ. Zürich
Debian Developer (teTeX)




Bug#360612: seminar package bug corrections files are out of date

2006-04-04 Thread Joerg Dorchain
On Tue, Apr 04, 2006 at 11:56:30AM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
 
  As new upstreams for TeX can take some time (the debian seminar.bg2
  version is dated 1998), I wanted to share updates by opening this bug
  report. 
 
 Yes, well, bad.  Why do you want a private conversation about this?  I
 assume this was a mistake, and send this answer to the bug again.

Thank you. I blindly pressed reply instead of group reply.
 
 I don't know anything about seminar's update cycles, nor whether they
 are regularly uploaded to CTAN.  teTeX 3.0 generally includes files from
 CTAN up to February 2005.  If people don't upload their stuff, I can't
 help.

Me neither. Yet the Debian team is more responsive than upstream ;-)

 
 Moreover, the file seminar.bg3 you sent doesn't contain any copyright
 and license statement, and therefore may not be distributed.  Upstream
 should correct that, and it would also be nice to know where upstream
 is. 

seminar.bg3 is taken from a usenet post. Reference is e.g.
http://groups.google.com/group/fr.comp.text.tex/msg/e1e905508b0de896?output=gplain
or news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Sorry, french only)

The author is obviously the same Denis GIROU who supposedly maintains
http://tug.org/applications/Seminar/Seminar-Bugs.html.

Bye,

Joerg


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Bug#360612: seminar package bug corrections files are out of date

2006-04-04 Thread Frank Küster
Joerg Dorchain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Moreover, the file seminar.bg3 you sent doesn't contain any copyright
 and license statement, and therefore may not be distributed.  Upstream
 should correct that, and it would also be nice to know where upstream
 is. 

 seminar.bg3 is taken from a usenet post. Reference is e.g.
 http://groups.google.com/group/fr.comp.text.tex/msg/e1e905508b0de896?output=gplain
 or news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Sorry, french only)

 The author is obviously the same Denis GIROU who supposedly maintains
 http://tug.org/applications/Seminar/Seminar-Bugs.html.

Hm, if he actually *maintains* it, I usually would assume that there's a
reason why he has not uploaded the correction to tug.org - e.g. because
he thinks it needs more testing, or he actually has found a bug in bg3.

As I said, we generally don't update single files in tetex, because it
would simply be too much work - it would mean to maintain our own,
Debian-specific TeX distribution.  We do consider updating certain
critical things, but for sure this requires that the upstream author
says you should *really* have this, and not just posts it somewhere in
Usenet. 

Regards, Frank
-- 
Frank Küster
Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding @ Inst. f. Biochemie, Univ. Zürich
Debian Developer (teTeX)




Bug#360612: seminar package bug corrections files are out of date

2006-04-03 Thread Joerg Dorchain
Package: tetex-extra
Version: 3.0-17
Tags: Patch

Hi,

trying to use slides following the instructions at
http://astronomy.sussex.ac.uk/~eddie/soft/tutorial.html, I noticed that
the seminar.bg2 file is out of date on debian, the seminar.bg3 file is
missing. I attach them here for reference. Thanks for including them.

Bye,

Joerg

%%% -*- Mode: Latex -*- %%%
%% seminar.bg2 --- Corrections for compatibility problems and new bugs
%% found in the Seminar package, and few new additions
%% to help overlays management for PDF output files.
%% (see also the seminar.bug file in Seminar distribution)
%%
%% Disclaimer: this file is mine and doesn't engage TVZ!
%%
%% Note: insert it after \usepackage{graphicx} if you use `graphicx'
%%   and after \usepackage{longtable} if you use `longtable'
%%
%% Author  : Denis GIROU (CNRS/IDRIS - France) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
%% Created the : 1995
%% Last mod. by: Denis GIROU (CNRS/IDRIS - France) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
%% Last mod. the   : Fri May 31 20:19:22 2002
%%%

\def\FileVersion{2.1}
\def\FileDate{May 31, 2002}
\typeout{seminar.bg2: various corrections for the Seminar document class^^J%
 added since seminar.bug and few add-ons for overlays^^J%
 (Version \FileVersion\space of \FileDate (D.G.))}

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% 1 - To correct a bug in the note environment
% (reported by Denis Girou (CNRS/IDRIS) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 1995)
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% 2 - To correct several bugs to generate a list of slides with subsection
% entries
% (reported by Denis Girou (CNRS/IDRIS) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Jul. 18, 1995)
%   - To clear the subheading when a new heading is defined
% (reported by Axel Thimm - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - June 5, 1997)
%   - To assure coherence between heading and subheading when used
% in header/footer, for article mode
% (reported by Axel Thimm - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - June 5, 1997)
%   - Improvements (\refstepcounter and [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by Jeremy Gibbons
% [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sep. 30, 1997

% Used by the [EMAIL PROTECTED] macro but undefined
\def\theslidesubsection{\theslidesection.\arabic{slidesubsection}}

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%  \stepcounter{slidesection}%
  \refstepcounter{slidesection}%
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  \fi
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  \gdef\theslideheading{#1}%
% D.G. modification end
% D.G. modification begin - Aug. 1, 1997
  \gdef\theslidesubheading{}%
% D.G. modification end
}

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  \theslidesubsection}\makeslidesubheading{#2}}%
% D.G. modification end
  \fi
% D.G. modification begin - May 30, 1997
  \gdef\theslidesubheading{#1}%
% D.G. modification end
}


% 3 - To correct a bug in the \slidecontents macro
% (reported by Denis Roegel (LORIA) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sep. 22, 1996)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] #1#2#3{}

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% Modification Denis Roegel begin - Sep. 22, 1996
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%  [EMAIL PROTECTED]@gobbletwo
% Modification Denis Roegel end
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% 4 - To solve incompatibility between the `graphicx' package and Seminar.
% The \espfslidesize Seminar macro work only with the old version of
% the `epsfig' package, so with \includegraphics the PostScript files are
% always scaled without the possibility to leave them to there natural
% size. And also these files are not correctly scaled when we switch
% from normal to article mode under Seminar. So, we must redefined the
% \epsfslidesize macro of Seminar and modify few internal macros of
% `graphicx'.
% (Note: I consider only the `graphicX' package, not the 'graphicS' one)
% (reported by Karl Tombre  (LORIA) [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
%  Denis Roegel (LORIA) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Jan. 16, 1997)

\def\GraphicsNotScaled{%
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\else   % Graphicx package detected
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]@sizes{%
% D.G. modification begin - May 16, 1997