Bug#362431: xorg: missing modules
Dear Jerome Thank you for that, I didn't really see how having the nvidia driver present mattered when I had the system set to use the (debian, GPL) nv driver and gdm still couldn't find it to start x. I still say that the package maintainers need to address compatibility problems with /etc/X11/xorg.conf for xorg 7. Obviously with the move to xorg 7, drivers aren't really 'bundled' any more although I do have the debian vesa, fb, dummy and nv drivers installed as backup. All will be pleased to know that I have finally found a solution and am back to a fully accelerated x environment. I regret that I forget the exact Ubuntu thread I came across but in essence: remove all debian 'nvidia' and 'glx' packages installed with apt-get. ctrl-alt-f1 (to switch to console) /etc/init.d/gdm stop (to stop xserver) sh nvidia-official-installer --uninstall (to install official proprietary driver distributed by nvidia) sh nvidia-official-installer (to install official nvidia distributed driver) /etc/init.d/gdm restart (to restart xserver with gdm) Thanks to everyone who helped Joshua Jerome Alet wrote: On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 06:50:39PM +0100, Joshua Kite wrote: unnecessarily abrasive. I don't really understand what you mean by saying that it's not working BECAUSE I have been trying to use the Nvidia driver. I know that in the past, Debian did not support the nvidia binary drivers and I can well understand this, since they have no 'control' over them. It is important to mention that the problem we encountered has NOTHING o do with the NVidia driver, proprietary or not. My laptop uses the free ATI driver which comes bundled with the default X server included in Debian, and I experienced the very same problem. hth Jerome Alet
Bug#362431: xorg: missing modules
On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 06:50:39PM +0100, Joshua Kite wrote: > unnecessarily abrasive. I don't really understand what you mean by > saying that it's not working BECAUSE I have been trying to use the > Nvidia driver. I know that in the past, Debian did not support the > nvidia binary drivers and I can well understand this, since they have no > 'control' over them. It is important to mention that the problem we encountered has NOTHING o do with the NVidia driver, proprietary or not. My laptop uses the free ATI driver which comes bundled with the default X server included in Debian, and I experienced the very same problem. hth Jerome Alet -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#362431: xorg: missing modules
Dear Daniel I am sorry if my last post offended you; I had found these difficulties extremely frustrating and on re-reading, it seems that my post was unnecessarily abrasive. I don't really understand what you mean by saying that it's not working BECAUSE I have been trying to use the Nvidia driver. I know that in the past, Debian did not support the nvidia binary drivers and I can well understand this, since they have no 'control' over them. However two things make this puzzling now: less importantly, the nvidia-glx packages in non-free (not installable with xorg 7) and more importantly the problems I have encountered with gdm and xorg.conf. Surely something needs to be done to address what are essentially compatibility issues between xorg 6x and xorg 7x caused by different directory structures. At the very least the upgrade needs to address these so that the GPL 'nv' driver can be used 'out of the box' which is not possible at the moment. I recall that the Mozilla Firefox maintainers addressed similar issues in the past by symlinking from the old named components to the new name ones, maybe a similar approach would be helpful here? Thanks Joshua Daniel Stone wrote: On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 04:05:40PM +0100, Joshua Kite wrote: After many, many hours and much reading of forums I have restored my X environment although at the moment only with the nv driver, not the nvidia driver. The problem is clearly a result of the change in module location and package naming with the move from xorg 6.x => xorg 7 and so I consider it to be the package maintainers' 'fault' and for them to address. Here is what I did: Firstly I had to generate a 'virgin' new /etc/X11/xorg.conf . dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg did NOT work (complaining of a customised file) and so I had to mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old.20060417 The new xorg.conf looked very different indeed to the old one based on the old xfree86 XF86config-4 from the XF86 => xorg transition. I still had problems with 'missing' modules which the following 'fixed' ln -s /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/* /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers ln -s /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/* /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions I now found that although I could manually, I could not get a graphical login to come up automatically, gdm complained 'Xserver not found...' . I 'fixed' this with ln -s /usr/bin/Xorg /usr/X11R6/bin/X I am now back to an (unaccelerated) graphical login: X complains "Failed to initialize GLX extension (compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)". Naturally I have abandoned the Debian nvidia packages long ago (never really used them) and reinstalled the official nvidia 8756 'pkg-run' installer several times without further success. I presume that this glx problem will also be a location problem as with the rest and that this would explain the ubuntu situation which I described previously- the kernel loads the nvidia module but x won't use it. I don't have any more time to play with his right now but I hope that this sorry situation can be fixed by the package maintainers ASAP since it would seem everything is there but x is looking in the wrong places for the things it needs now that we have moved to xorg 7x. Thanks especially to Jerome for your help and support I started responding to your post in pieces, but then I realised that you're using the proprietary NVIDIA driver. Which explains why it's not working. There are numerous documented workarounds for this; please continue searching (I don't have them to hand), as it is not Debian's problem.
Bug#362431: xorg: missing modules
On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 04:05:40PM +0100, Joshua Kite wrote: > After many, many hours and much reading of forums I have restored my X > environment although at the moment only with the nv driver, not the > nvidia driver. The problem is clearly a result of the change in module > location and package naming with the move from xorg 6.x => xorg 7 and so > I consider it to be the package maintainers' 'fault' and for them to > address. Here is what I did: > > Firstly I had to generate a 'virgin' new /etc/X11/xorg.conf . > > dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg > > did NOT work (complaining of a customised file) and so I had to > > mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old.20060417 > > The new xorg.conf looked very different indeed to the old one based on > the old xfree86 XF86config-4 from the XF86 => xorg transition. > > I still had problems with 'missing' modules which the following 'fixed' > > ln -s /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/* /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers > ln -s /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/* /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions > > I now found that although I could manually, I could not get a > graphical login to come up automatically, gdm complained 'Xserver not > found...' . I 'fixed' this with > > ln -s /usr/bin/Xorg /usr/X11R6/bin/X > > I am now back to an (unaccelerated) graphical login: X complains "Failed > to initialize GLX extension (compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)". > Naturally I have abandoned the Debian nvidia packages long ago (never > really used them) and reinstalled the official nvidia 8756 'pkg-run' > installer several times without further success. I presume that this glx > problem will also be a location problem as with the rest and that this > would explain the ubuntu situation which I described previously- the > kernel loads the nvidia module but x won't use it. I don't have any more > time to play with his right now but I hope that this sorry situation can > be fixed by the package maintainers ASAP since it would seem everything > is there but x is looking in the wrong places for the things it needs > now that we have moved to xorg 7x. > > Thanks especially to Jerome for your help and support I started responding to your post in pieces, but then I realised that you're using the proprietary NVIDIA driver. Which explains why it's not working. There are numerous documented workarounds for this; please continue searching (I don't have them to hand), as it is not Debian's problem. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#362431: xorg: missing modules
Right After many, many hours and much reading of forums I have restored my X environment although at the moment only with the nv driver, not the nvidia driver. The problem is clearly a result of the change in module location and package naming with the move from xorg 6.x => xorg 7 and so I consider it to be the package maintainers' 'fault' and for them to address. Here is what I did: Firstly I had to generate a 'virgin' new /etc/X11/xorg.conf . dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg did NOT work (complaining of a customised file) and so I had to mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old.20060417 The new xorg.conf looked very different indeed to the old one based on the old xfree86 XF86config-4 from the XF86 => xorg transition. I still had problems with 'missing' modules which the following 'fixed' ln -s /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/* /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers ln -s /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/* /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions I now found that although I could manually, I could not get a graphical login to come up automatically, gdm complained 'Xserver not found...' . I 'fixed' this with ln -s /usr/bin/Xorg /usr/X11R6/bin/X I am now back to an (unaccelerated) graphical login: X complains "Failed to initialize GLX extension (compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)". Naturally I have abandoned the Debian nvidia packages long ago (never really used them) and reinstalled the official nvidia 8756 'pkg-run' installer several times without further success. I presume that this glx problem will also be a location problem as with the rest and that this would explain the ubuntu situation which I described previously- the kernel loads the nvidia module but x won't use it. I don't have any more time to play with his right now but I hope that this sorry situation can be fixed by the package maintainers ASAP since it would seem everything is there but x is looking in the wrong places for the things it needs now that we have moved to xorg 7x. Thanks especially to Jerome for your help and support Joshua Kite ___ Switch an email account to Yahoo! Mail, you could win FIFA World Cup tickets. http://uk.mail.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#362431: xorg: missing modules
Thanks for this It turns out that I had been commenting the wrong section in Xorg.conf- I had commented out the 'load modules' lines when it was the module path lines that needed to be commented out. I have corrected this and no longer get errors about bitmap and pcmidata modules. HOWEVER this now gives me a new error that module xtt default font cannot be found from default location. Whilst there are many font paths in my Xorg.conf, they all appear to be valid and I cannot tell which paths to change- I am assuming that if a default path is failing that I would need to specify a new one rather than comment out an eexisting one. i have already tried dpkg-reconfigure xorg (forget exact command) previously to no avail. It would seem that we need to address a number of path issues urgently - any ideas? Thanks --- Jerome Alet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Apr 14, 2006 at 11:59:13PM +0100, Joshua > Kite wrote: > > I have just done a dist-upgrade on i386 to attempt > to > > resolve this bug and it is certainly not fixed. > even > > after upgrading to xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-4. I > still > > get the mesage re missing modules for bitmap and > > pcidata although only bitmap was specified in > > /etc/X11/xorg.conf. commenting out this line made > no > > difference. I tried copying /etc/X11/xorg.conf to > my > > Ubuntu AMD64 partition and X comes up although it > > loads (but refuses to use) the Nvidia module > (splash > > screen appears and lsmod shows 'nvidia' present). > > When I got back to my laptop who showed the problem, > I just commented > out the ModulePath configuration line and the X > server started > flawlessly. So all I can say is that it worked for > me. > > bye > > Jerome Alet > ___ NEW Yahoo! Cars - sell your car and browse thousands of new and used cars online! http://uk.cars.yahoo.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#362431: xorg: missing modules
Hi, On Fri, Apr 14, 2006 at 11:59:13PM +0100, Joshua Kite wrote: > I have just done a dist-upgrade on i386 to attempt to > resolve this bug and it is certainly not fixed. even > after upgrading to xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-4. I still > get the mesage re missing modules for bitmap and > pcidata although only bitmap was specified in > /etc/X11/xorg.conf. commenting out this line made no > difference. I tried copying /etc/X11/xorg.conf to my > Ubuntu AMD64 partition and X comes up although it > loads (but refuses to use) the Nvidia module (splash > screen appears and lsmod shows 'nvidia' present). When I got back to my laptop who showed the problem, I just commented out the ModulePath configuration line and the X server started flawlessly. So all I can say is that it worked for me. bye Jerome Alet -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#362431: xorg: missing modules
I have just done a dist-upgrade on i386 to attempt to resolve this bug and it is certainly not fixed. even after upgrading to xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-4. I still get the mesage re missing modules for bitmap and pcidata although only bitmap was specified in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. commenting out this line made no difference. I tried copying /etc/X11/xorg.conf to my Ubuntu AMD64 partition and X comes up although it loads (but refuses to use) the Nvidia module (splash screen appears and lsmod shows 'nvidia' present). Regards Joshua Kite ___ NEW Yahoo! Cars - sell your car and browse thousands of new and used cars online! http://uk.cars.yahoo.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#362431: xorg: missing modules
Hi gain, On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 02:59:11PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 14:20 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Package: xorg > > Version: 1:7.0.10 > > Severity: grave > > Justification: renders package unusable > > > > > > The X server doesn't start complaining about bitmap and pcidata modules, > > despite none of these lines being present in the list of modules to > > load in /etc/X11/xorg.conf > > These modules are required and thus loaded automatically by the X > server. > > Most likely, you have a superfluous ModulePath line This is the case. > in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. If not, please post that file as well > as /var/log/Xorg.0.log. I'll test to remove the superfluous lines from the modulepath tomorrow when I'm in front of the machine again, then I'll post a followup to tell you what happened and I'll include these files if necessary. Thanks for your help ! bye, and thanks for your help Jerome Alet
Bug#362431: xorg: missing modules
On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 14:20 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Package: xorg > Version: 1:7.0.10 > Severity: grave > Justification: renders package unusable > > > The X server doesn't start complaining about bitmap and pcidata modules, > despite none of these lines being present in the list of modules to > load in /etc/X11/xorg.conf These modules are required and thus loaded automatically by the X server. Most likely, you have a superfluous ModulePath line in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. If not, please post that file as well as /var/log/Xorg.0.log. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer | Debian (powerpc), X and DRI developer Libre software enthusiast| http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=daenzer
Bug#362431: xorg: missing modules
Package: xorg Version: 1:7.0.10 Severity: grave Justification: renders package unusable The X server doesn't start complaining about bitmap and pcidata modules, despite none of these lines being present in the list of modules to load in /etc/X11/xorg.conf Any idea ? -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'stable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.15-grml Locale: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (charmap=ISO-8859-15) Versions of packages xorg depends on: ii libgl1-mesa-dri 6.4.1-0.4 A free implementation of the OpenG ii libgl1-mesa-glx [libgl1-mesa- 6.4.1-0.4 A free implementation of the OpenG ii libglu1-mesa 6.4.1-0.4 The OpenGL utility library (GLU) ii xbase-clients 1:7.0.0-2 miscellaneous X clients ii xfonts-100dpi 1:1.0.0-2 100 dpi fonts for X ii xfonts-75dpi 1:1.0.0-2 100 dpi fonts for X ii xfonts-base 1:1.0.0-3 standard fonts for X ii xfonts-scalable 1:1.0.0-3 scalable fonts for X ii xkb-data 0.8-4 X Keyboard Extension (XKB) configu ii xserver-xorg 1:7.0.10 the X.Org X server ii xterm 210-2 X terminal emulator ii xutils1:7.0.0-3 X Window System utility programs xorg recommends no packages. -- no debconf information -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
