Bug#368405: manual page unclear

2006-06-21 Thread Marc Haber
severity #368405 minor
tags #368405 upstream
forwarded #368405 http://sesame.csx.cam.ac.uk/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=111
thanks

On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 11:49:09PM +0100, Frederik Eaton wrote:
 For instance consider this piece of the man page:
  
-tWhen  Exim is receiving a locally-generated, non-SMTP 
 message 
  on its standard input, the -t option causes the recipients 
 of 
  the message to be obtained from the To:, Cc:, and Bcc: 
 header 
  lines in the message instead of from the  command  
 arguments. 
  The addresses are extracted before any rewriting takes 
 place. 
  
 When Exim is receiving a locally-generated, non-SMTP message on its
 standard input So which options must I pass to exim, along with
 -t, to get it to receive a locally-generated non-SMTP message on
 its standard input?

None.

 Good luck finding the answer in the man page, or
 in the specification. The answer seems to be none but I don't know
 how I was supposed to figure that out, other than by trial and error.

Exim is a plug-in replacement for sendmail, which has always behaved
this way.

 It seems like a pretty typical use case to me, though. I think that
 something should be said near the top of the manual page about common
 use cases such as this. The most common options options can be put
 before the others, which would help a lot, but there should be some
 introductory text as well.

Agreed. I have forwarded this upstream and apologize for taking so
long to react to your report.

Greetings
Marc

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Bug#368405: manual page unclear

2006-05-21 Thread Frederik Eaton
Package: exim4
Version: 4.50-8
Severity: normal

For instance consider this piece of the man page:
 
   -tWhen  Exim is receiving a locally-generated, non-SMTP message 
 on its standard input, the -t option causes the recipients of 
 the message to be obtained from the To:, Cc:, and Bcc: header 
 lines in the message instead of from the  command  arguments. 
 The addresses are extracted before any rewriting takes place. 
 
When Exim is receiving a locally-generated, non-SMTP message on its
standard input So which options must I pass to exim, along with
-t, to get it to receive a locally-generated non-SMTP message on
its standard input? Good luck finding the answer in the man page, or
in the specification. The answer seems to be none but I don't know
how I was supposed to figure that out, other than by trial and error.

It seems like a pretty typical use case to me, though. I think that
something should be said near the top of the manual page about common
use cases such as this. The most common options options can be put
before the others, which would help a lot, but there should be some
introductory text as well.

Frederik

-- Package-specific info:
Exim version 4.50 #1 built 27-May-2005 08:08:19
Copyright (c) University of Cambridge 2004
Berkeley DB: Sleepycat Software: Berkeley DB 4.2.52: (December  3, 2003)
Support for: iconv() IPv6 GnuTLS
Lookups: lsearch wildlsearch nwildlsearch iplsearch cdb dbm dbmnz dsearch nis 
nis0 passwd
Authenticators: cram_md5 plaintext
Routers: accept dnslookup ipliteral manualroute queryprogram redirect
Transports: appendfile/maildir/mailstore autoreply lmtp pipe smtp
Fixed never_users: 0
Configuration file is /var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'testing'), (500, 'stable'), (1, 
'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.14-1-k7
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)

Versions of packages exim4 depends on:
ii  exim4-base4.50-8 support files for all exim MTA (v4
ii  exim4-daemon-light4.50-8 lightweight exim MTA (v4) daemon

exim4 recommends no packages.

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