Bug#410016: ITP: Orange-data-mining -- Component-based data mining software

2007-02-18 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 02:07:51PM +0100, Alain Schroeder a écrit :
> 
> > "Orange is released under General Public License (GPL) and as such is
> > free if you use it under these terms. We do, however, oblige the users
> > to cite the following white paper together with any other work that
> > accompanied Orange any time you use Orange in your publications:
> 
> This is a VERY strange addition. I think it is 
> 
>  a) incompatible with the GPL, and as it links with at least Qt, this
> makes Orange indistributable.

Dear Alain,

Thank you for your reactions to this ITP. Apparently, the upstream
authors read them and removed the statement from their pages.

Have a nice day,

-- 
Charles Plessy
http://charles.plessy.org
Wako, Saitama, Japan



Bug#410016: ITP: Orange-data-mining -- Component-based data mining software

2007-02-07 Thread Alain Schroeder
Am Mittwoch, den 07.02.2007, 13:03 +0900 schrieb Charles Plessy:

>   Package name: Orange-data-mining
>   Version : 2007-02-06
>   Upstream Author : Janez Demsar and Blaz Zupan (see also 
> http://www.ailab.si/orange/acknowledgements.htm)
>   URL : http://www.ailab.si/orange
>   License : GPL
>   Description : Component-based data mining software

Be careful with this software. The C4.5 classifier is released under a
completely different and restrictive license: "This software may not be
distributed in any form without permission of the copyright holder."

Things like this always make me nervous. I'd check every file for an
apropriate copyright notice!

Bye,
   Alain


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Bug#410016: ITP: Orange-data-mining -- Component-based data mining software

2007-02-07 Thread Alain Schroeder
Am Mittwoch, den 07.02.2007, 13:03 +0900 schrieb Charles Plessy:

>   Package name: Orange-data-mining

[...]

Sounds very interesting.

> "Orange is released under General Public License (GPL) and as such is
> free if you use it under these terms. We do, however, oblige the users
> to cite the following white paper together with any other work that
> accompanied Orange any time you use Orange in your publications:

This is a VERY strange addition. I think it is 

 a) incompatible with the GPL, and as it links with at least Qt, this
makes Orange indistributable.
 b) senseless, because if Orange is used in a scientific publication 
they have to be mentioned anyways - maybe not with this exact paper,
but I am confident everybody uses that exact paper if they do not 
oblige the users, but ask them to use this paper - not another. 
This of course does not help with other publications like magazins 
and such.

Bye,
   Alain


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Bug#410016: ITP: Orange-data-mining -- Component-based data mining software

2007-02-06 Thread Charles Plessy
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


  Package name: Orange-data-mining
  Version : 2007-02-06
  Upstream Author : Janez Demsar and Blaz Zupan (see also 
http://www.ailab.si/orange/acknowledgements.htm)
  URL : http://www.ailab.si/orange
  License : GPL
  Description : Component-based data mining software

orange-data-mining-common:

 Orange is a component-based data mining software. It includes a range of
 preprocessing, modelling and data exploration techniques. It is based on
 C++ components, that are accessed either directly (not very common),
 through Python scripts (easier and better), or through GUI objects
 called Orange Widgets.
 .
  Homepage: http://www.ailab.si/orange

orange-data-mining-widgets:

 Orange's visual programming interface is based on GUI components called
 Orange Widgets, and a signalling framework that uses communication
 channels to connect widgets and tokens to pass the data from one widget
 to another. Although this sounds very scientific, working with widgets
 in the Orange Canvas is simple as point-and-click.
 .
  Homepage: http://www.ailab.si/orange
  
orange-data-mining-genomics:

 Orange offers an intuitive means of combining known analysis and
 visualization methods into powerful applications. The system presented
 here enables users who are not programmers to manage microarray and
 genomic data flow and to customize their analysis by combining common
 data analysis tools to fit their needs. 
 .
  Homepage: http://www.ailab.si/supp/bi-visprog

Orange will be co-maintained by Cyril Brulebois and me.


Orange is released under the GPL with an additional restriction, which
in my understanding makes it incompatible with GPL works and the DFSG. I
am very confident that this is only a wording problem and will contact
the authors to ask them if they can rephrase their statement.

"Orange is released under General Public License (GPL) and as such is
free if you use it under these terms. We do, however, oblige the users
to cite the following white paper together with any other work that
accompanied Orange any time you use Orange in your publications:

Demsar J, Zupan B, Leban G (2004) Orange: From Experimental Machine
Learning to Interactive Data Mining, White Paper (www.ailab.si/orange),
Faculty of Computer and Information Science, University of Ljubljana."

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