Bug#460424: fails to start without freepats
Package: timidity Version: 2.13.2-9 Severity: normal timidity will not start in a default configuration without freepats installed as the default timidity configuration attempts to read the freepats configuration: # By default, try to use the instrument patches from freepats: source /etc/timidity/freepats.cfg The package does list freepats as a Recommends however this doesn't seem in line with policy. Policy states that any additional packages needed for the package to run should be listed as Depends not Recommends. --- System information. --- Architecture: i386 Kernel: Linux 2.6.18-5-k7 Debian Release: 4.0 --- Package information. --- Depends (Version) | Installed ==-+-== libartsc0 (= 1.5.0-1) | 1.5.5-1 libasound2 ( 1.0.12) | 1.0.13-2 libaudio2 | 1.8-4 libaudiofile0 (= 0.2.3-4) | 0.2.6-6 libc6 (= 2.3.6-6) | 2.3.6.ds1-13etch4 libesd0 (= 0.2.35) | 0.2.36-3 OR libesd-alsa0 (= 0.2.35) | libflac7 | 1.1.2-6 libglib2.0-0 (= 2.12.0) | 2.12.4-2 libice6 (= 1:1.0.0) | 1:1.0.1-2 libjack0.100.0-0 (= 0.101.1) | 0.101.1-2 libncurses5 (= 5.4-5) | 5.5-5 libogg0 (= 1.1.3) | 1.1.3-2 liboggflac3| 1.1.2-6 libpng12-0 (= 1.2.13-4) | 1.2.15~beta5-1 libsm6 | 1:1.0.1-3 libvorbis0a (= 1.1.2) | 1.1.2.dfsg-1.2 libvorbisenc2 (= 1.1.2) | 1.1.2.dfsg-1.2 libx11-6 | 2:1.0.3-7 libxaw7| 1:1.0.2-4 libxext6 | 1:1.0.1-2 libxmu6| 1:1.0.2-2 libxt6 | 1:1.0.2-2 zlib1g(= 1:1.2.1) | 1:1.2.3-13 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#460424: fails to start without freepats
On Saturday 12 January 2008 17:30:18 Jamin W. Collins wrote: Package: timidity Version: 2.13.2-9 Severity: normal timidity will not start in a default configuration without freepats installed as the default timidity configuration attempts to read the freepats configuration: # By default, try to use the instrument patches from freepats: source /etc/timidity/freepats.cfg The package does list freepats as a Recommends however this doesn't seem in line with policy. Policy states that any additional packages needed for the package to run should be listed as Depends not Recommends. This is indeed what ubuntu does. However it is very well possible to use timidity with other soundfonts then freepats (and usually far better sounding ones!), and then timidity works fine. It's a thin line; the reason it is like it is now is to avoid that people need to install a 28M package (freepats) which they might not need, just to use timidity. Maybe 28M is no longer a big issue today and I should change timidity. Joost -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#460424: fails to start without freepats
Joost Yervante Damad wrote: However it is very well possible to use timidity with other soundfonts then freepats (and usually far better sounding ones!), and then timidity works fine. It's not so much a question of whether it is possible to use it without freepats, it's a question of the provided default configuration. As the package is currently provided it will not even start. While removing the configuration entry will allow timidity to start, it appears that it does not have any instrument sounds or at least my attempts without it failed to produce any sound. It's a thin line; the reason it is like it is now is to avoid that people need to install a 28M package (freepats) which they might not need, just to use timidity. I can understand this concern, but current the provided installation will likely be broken for many (if not most) users due to the default configuration file and the lack of instruments. I simply installed freepats when I noticed it was the reason timidity was failing. However, I do think the package as provided should either work or notify the user of what needs to be done to make it work. -- Jamin W. Collins -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#460424: fails to start without freepats
On Saturday 12 January 2008 18:23:59 Jamin W. Collins wrote: Joost Yervante Damad wrote: However it is very well possible to use timidity with other soundfonts then freepats (and usually far better sounding ones!), and then timidity works fine. It's not so much a question of whether it is possible to use it without freepats, it's a question of the provided default configuration. As the package is currently provided it will not even start. While removing the configuration entry will allow timidity to start, it appears that it does not have any instrument sounds or at least my attempts without it failed to produce any sound. It's a thin line; the reason it is like it is now is to avoid that people need to install a 28M package (freepats) which they might not need, just to use timidity. I can understand this concern, but current the provided installation will likely be broken for many (if not most) users due to the default configuration file and the lack of instruments. I simply installed freepats when I noticed it was the reason timidity was failing. However, I do think the package as provided should either work or notify the user of what needs to be done to make it work. I tend to agree. I'll prepare a new upload with a Depends: on freepats and hope I don't get to many bugs the other way around ;) Thanks for pointing this issue out again; as it keeps re-appearing a fix is indeed needed. Joost -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
