Bug#466517: sensible-browser and MIME

2008-06-19 Thread Clint Adams
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 02:12:31PM +0300, Eddy Petrișor wrote:
 That is not nearly as good as using sensible-browser

Why not?

 Highest prio available, so that is always used, sensible-browser
 itself making sure it will choose the right browser, no matter the
 situation (number of users, number of browsers installed, is X
 running).

Hmm.




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Bug#466517: sensible-browser and MIME

2008-06-19 Thread Eddy Petrișor
2008/6/19 Clint Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 02:12:31PM +0300, Eddy Petrișor wrote:
 That is not nearly as good as using sensible-browser

 Why not?

Many reasons (which, by the way, were exposed before, but I'll expand):
1) browser only really works if the $BROWSER varible is set
2) because it doesn't take into account the DISPLAY env variable, thus
failing for consoles in the absence of the BROWSER variable
3) the debian alternatives are meaningless for browser, while this is
the default situation for a new account, browser will fail one more
time to provide the proper fallback (here, in the absence of $BROWSER,
should be the default www-browser as set by the alternatives system,
as designated by the system admin)
4) sensible-browser is here and *ALWAYS* does the right thing, while
browser isn't even present in Debian

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Bug#466517: sensible-browser and MIME

2008-06-18 Thread Eddy Petrișor
2008/6/2 Clint Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 02:44:03PM +0300, Eddy Petrișor wrote:
 I am really confused by that ever. Are you suggesting that it
 shouldn't have been there in the first place?!

 No, it should be there because that is the intended behavior, but I
 don't particularly like it.

 2) Because sensible-browser is the only browser that is able to
 respect the options of the admin and the users, no matter:
 a) which browsers are installed on a system
 b) how many users are present on a system
 c) if X is used or not:

 Perhaps you would like to package browse and give it a high priority:
 http://www.dwheeler.com/browse/

That is not nearly as good as using sensible-browser

 When several packages all provide different versions of the same
 program or file it is useful to have the system select a default, but
 to allow the system administrator to change it and have their
 decisions respected.

 So what is your suggestion? Raise the sensible-browser priority
 to what?

Highest prio available, so that is always used, sensible-browser
itself making sure it will choose the right browser, no matter the
situation (number of users, number of browsers installed, is X
running).

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Bug#466517: sensible-browser and MIME

2008-06-02 Thread Eddy Petrișor
2008/5/31 Clint Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I see no compelling reason why sensible-browser should ever appear in

I am really confused by that ever. Are you suggesting that it
shouldn't have been there in the first place?!
If that is so, then I would really need an explanation to be convinced.

Note that *I* have explained *why* my proposed change is needed and,
if there are any flaws in my reasoning, I would really like them
pointed out for me.

 mailcap, so I don't know why this is a serious bug of debianutils.

1) Because of the reasons explained in
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=466517#5 .


2) Because sensible-browser is the only browser that is able to
respect the options of the admin and the users, no matter:
a) which browsers are installed on a system
b) how many users are present on a system
c) if X is used or not:

When several packages all provide different versions of the same
program or file it is useful to have the system select a default, but
to allow the system administrator to change it and have their
decisions respected.


3) Because, in spite of some people might be used to, there *are*
multi-user systems that should respect the different options of each
and every user. Currently, on my main machine, me and my wife are
using GNOME, but I prefer iceweasel, while she prefers
epiphany-browser. If she clicks on any link given by a friend via
instant messenger or mail, she ends up with the unwanted browser
side-by-side with the preferred one (if she already had epiphany
open).

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Bug#466517: sensible-browser and MIME

2008-06-02 Thread Clint Adams
On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 02:44:03PM +0300, Eddy Petrișor wrote:
 I am really confused by that ever. Are you suggesting that it
 shouldn't have been there in the first place?!

No, it should be there because that is the intended behavior, but I
don't particularly like it.

 2) Because sensible-browser is the only browser that is able to
 respect the options of the admin and the users, no matter:
 a) which browsers are installed on a system
 b) how many users are present on a system
 c) if X is used or not:

Perhaps you would like to package browse and give it a high priority:
http://www.dwheeler.com/browse/

 When several packages all provide different versions of the same
 program or file it is useful to have the system select a default, but
 to allow the system administrator to change it and have their
 decisions respected.

So what is your suggestion? Raise the sensible-browser priority
to what?



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Bug#466517: sensible-browser and MIME

2008-05-31 Thread Clint Adams
I see no compelling reason why sensible-browser should ever appear in
mailcap, so I don't know why this is a serious bug of debianutils.



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