Bug#482361: mk-build-deps: don't use equivs
Hi, I also would have found it a little bit nicer if mk-build-deps would not use equivs: * No additional dependency to remember to install * Less noise on the terminal * Faster When I build dozends of packages in a row (which does happen), even a few seconds extra wait time are slightly annoying. Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer nome...@debian.org | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: nome...@joachim-breitner.de | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Bug#482361: mk-build-deps: don't use equivs
El 07/11/08 22:46 Peter Samuelson escribió: On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 12:34:26PM -0300, Felipe Sateler wrote: Equivs uses debhelper (for reasons I do not know, seems completely overkill for me), which means it is much slower than building a bare package manually. As the equivs maintainer, I'm intrigued: is this actually noticeable enough to be annoying to you? It never even occurred to me that it would be better for equivs to construct packages without debhelper because of speed. I created a hacky script to do this thing a while ago, and when devscripts started shipping mk-build-deps I noticed the difference. Nowadays I use http://sourcedeps.debian.net/, so I don't use this tool much anymore, but there is a difference (it's just creating a few files in a dir and then calling dpkg-deb, versus 10+ dh_* calls that do nothing). debhelper does take some burden off its users in terms of keeping up with Policy compliance issues, and it makes the template files pretty readable. However, metapackages created by mk-build-deps (I'm not sure of other uses for equivs) are empty packages, so making them policy compliant isn't difficult (no to mention that I don't see the need for them to be, although it's nice to have that). [Patrick Schoenfeld] Personally I don't think that much faster is of much relevance for a tool that takes about 2-3 seconds and is used max some times a day. Makes me wonder, though, if people really do find equivs too slow. I found it annoying, because the normal use of equivs for me is when dpkg-buildpackage complains that the build-deps aren't satisfied, thus I have to wait for it to complete and then install the deb to build the package. Although the time involved is short, it's annoying because it requires attention. Saludos, Felipe Sateler signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Bug#482361: mk-build-deps: don't use equivs
On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 12:34:26PM -0300, Felipe Sateler wrote: El 06/11/08 09:48 Patrick Schoenfeld escribió: Hi, I've recently looked into this bug report and I am wondering what the benefit of this change. Could you please explain to me, why you think that this would be an enhancement for mk-build-deps? Because it is much faster. Equivs uses debhelper (for reasons I do not know, seems completely overkill for me), which means it is much slower than building a bare package manually. Personally I don't think that much faster is of much relevance for a tool that takes about 2-3 seconds and is used max some times a day. I really don't see a use case, where this counts. So I'm considering to tag this wontfix, unless one of the other devscripts maintainers disagree. Regards, Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#482361: mk-build-deps: don't use equivs
On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 12:34:26PM -0300, Felipe Sateler wrote: Equivs uses debhelper (for reasons I do not know, seems completely overkill for me), which means it is much slower than building a bare package manually. As the equivs maintainer, I'm intrigued: is this actually noticeable enough to be annoying to you? It never even occurred to me that it would be better for equivs to construct packages without debhelper because of speed. debhelper does take some burden off its users in terms of keeping up with Policy compliance issues, and it makes the template files pretty readable. [Patrick Schoenfeld] Personally I don't think that much faster is of much relevance for a tool that takes about 2-3 seconds and is used max some times a day. Makes me wonder, though, if people really do find equivs too slow. -- Peter Samuelson | org-tld!p12n!peter | http://p12n.org/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#482361: mk-build-deps: don't use equivs
El 06/11/08 09:48 Patrick Schoenfeld escribió: Hi, I've recently looked into this bug report and I am wondering what the benefit of this change. Could you please explain to me, why you think that this would be an enhancement for mk-build-deps? Because it is much faster. Equivs uses debhelper (for reasons I do not know, seems completely overkill for me), which means it is much slower than building a bare package manually. Saludos, Felipe Sateler signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Bug#482361: mk-build-deps: don't use equivs
Package: devscripts
Version: 2.10.27
Severity: wishlist
Not using equivs would be great. I have patched mk-build-deps to not
use it, but to avoid parsing of arch-specific dependencies (which I
presume equivs did previously) I used Dpkg::Deps instead.
It cannot be used while reading from apt-cache, but I think that using
apt-cache to get information instead of debian/control isn't useful
anyway.
Attached is a patch that does this (rather hacky).
-- Package-specific info:
--- /etc/devscripts.conf ---
--- ~/.devscripts ---
DEBUILD_DPKG_BUILDPACKAGE_OPTS=-i -ICVS -I.svn
DEBUILD_PRESERVE_ENVVARS=DISPLAY
DEBUILD_LINTIAN=yes
DEBUILD_LINTIAN_OPTS=-i
DEBCHANGE_RELEASE_HEURISTIC=changelog
-- System Information:
Debian Release: lenny/sid
APT prefers unstable
APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
Kernel: Linux 2.6.25-2-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Versions of packages devscripts depends on:
ii dpkg-dev 1.14.19package building tools for Debian
ii libc6 2.7-11 GNU C Library: Shared libraries
ii perl 5.10.0-10 Larry Wall's Practical Extraction
Versions of packages devscripts recommends:
pn at none(no description available)
ii bsd-mailx [mailx] 8.1.2-0.20071201cvs-3 A simple mail user agent
ii bzr1.5-1 easy to use distributed version co
ii curl 7.18.1-1 Get a file from an HTTP, HTTPS or
ii cvs1:1.12.13-11 Concurrent Versions System
ii dctrl-tools2.12 Command-line tools to process Debi
ii debian-keyring 2007.12.04GnuPG (and obsolete PGP) keys of D
pn debian-maintainers none(no description available)
ii dput 0.9.2.32 Debian package upload tool
ii equivs 2.0.7-0.1 Circumvent Debian package dependen
ii fakeroot 1.9.5 Gives a fake root environment
ii git-core 1:1.5.5.1-1 fast, scalable, distributed revisi
ii gnupg 1.4.6-3 GNU privacy guard - a free PGP rep
ii iceweasel [www-bro 2.0.0.14-2lightweight web browser based on M
ii konqueror [www-bro 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-2+b1 KDE's advanced file manager, web b
ii libauthen-sasl-per 2.11-1Authen::SASL - SASL Authentication
ii libcrypt-ssleay-pe 0.57-1+b1 Support for https protocol in LWP
ii libparse-debcontro 2.005-2 Easy OO parsing of Debian control-
ii libsoap-lite-perl 0.71-2Client and server side SOAP implem
ii libterm-size-perl 0.2-4+b1 Perl extension for retrieving term
ii libtimedate-perl 1.1600-9 Time and date functions for Perl
ii liburi-perl1.35.dfsg.1-1 Manipulates and accesses URI strin
ii libwww-perl5.812-1 WWW client/server library for Perl
pn libyaml-syck-perl none(no description available)
ii lintian1.23.48 Debian package checker
ii lsb-release3.2-12Linux Standard Base version report
ii lynx [www-browser] 2.8.6-2 Text-mode WWW Browser
ii mailx 1:20071201-3 Transitional package for mailx ren
ii man-db 2.5.2-1 on-line manual pager
ii mercurial 1.0-4 Scalable distributed version contr
ii openssh-client [ss 1:4.7p1-10secure shell client, an rlogin/rsh
ii patch 2.5.9-5 Apply a diff file to an original
ii patchutils 0.2.31-4 Utilities to work with patches
ii strace 4.5.15-1.2A system call tracer
ii subversion 1.4.6dfsg1-4 Advanced version control system
ii unzip 5.52-11 De-archiver for .zip files
ii w3m [www-browser] 0.5.1-5.1+b1 WWW browsable pager with excellent
ii wdiff 0.5-17Compares two files word by word
ii wget 1.11.2-1 retrieves files from the web
-- no debconf information
--- /usr/bin/mk-build-deps 2008-05-03 12:33:35.0 -0400
+++ mk-build-deps 2008-05-22 00:48:19.0 -0400
@@ -66,6 +66,8 @@
use warnings;
use Getopt::Long;
use File::Basename;
+use Dpkg::Control;
+use Dpkg::Deps;
my $progname = basename($0);
my ($opt_help, $opt_version);
@@ -81,62 +83,73 @@
die Usage: $progname control file | package name [...]\nRun $progname
--help for more details\n unless @ARGV;
-system(command -v equivs-build /dev/null 21);
-if ($?) {
-die $progname: You must have equivs installed to use this program.\n;
-}
while ($control = shift) {
my $name;
-my $build_deps = ;
+my $build_deps;
my
