Bug#553920: Please don't provide a transitional package to, geeqie
Hi Dne Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:13:46 -0500 Gene Cash napsal(a): > Well, it does what I need it to do, and *I* haven't hit any bugs, nor > have I seen any security issues with it. That's like saying "oh, people > haven't worked on EMACS much lately... let's transition everyone to vi..." Emacs and vi are completely different programs. Geeqie has different name for single reason that it was easier to create new project on sf.net than attempt to take over existing one. And I also believe that Emacs is not dead upstream and there are still people working on that and making releases occasionally, what is not the case for GQview in last three years. Anyway the gqview package has been orphaned for several months and if anybody would step up in maintaining it, I would not make the transition proposed by previous maintainer. But nobody did. If you want it back in Debian, feel free to take care of gqview package and upload it again to Debian. That's simple. > I hit another couple of bugs on qeeqie today. If you hit "1" in the > image window to zoom to 1:1 size, it's ignored. This is actually a feature. Numeric keys are used for selecting images to groups, use z key to get 1:1. -- Michal Čihař | http://cihar.com | http://blog.cihar.com signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Bug#553920: Please don't provide a transitional package to, geeqie
Hi Dne Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:26:31 -0500 Gene Cash napsal(a): > Actually, I filed these on geequie itself, so you probably haven't seen > them, come to think of it... Ah okay, I actually expected that you would also file them on Debian package. > OK, I don't care. I'm not going to battle with people about this any > more. I just want to find the version of the last real gqview package so > I can download it and install it, and pin it so it doesn't get upgraded > again. Problem solved for everybody. The "whack! where did my program go > that I depend on several times a day? and I can't get the new one to do > what the old one did! I'm screwed!" feeling has left me with no need to > try geequie again. The last gqview in Debian was 2.0.4-6 . And yes that's exactly the problem, nobody cares about gqview. If anybody would, it would not be replaced. -- Michal Čihař | http://cihar.com | http://blog.cihar.com signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Bug#553920: Please don't provide a transitional package to, geeqie
Michal Čihař wrote: Hi Dne Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:50:53 -0500 Gene Cash napsal(a): OK, then, what's the last real version of gqview, so I can reinstall the package and get rid of this piece of junk, and pin it in my apt preferences? It does very irritating things with its windows, and it has already managed to delete a lot of my .desktop files. What irritating things with windows? Where did it delete .desktop files? Including useful information in bug report is usually better than just ranting. Well, as I mentioned in another bug, when I deleted entries from the "external editors" dialog, it deleted the actual .desktop files. Fortunately I had recent backups of my system. The reply to that was "gee, I thought those files were write-protected" And as I mentioned in yet another bug, to add external editors, you have to know how to write a .desktop file. I don't know how, and I don't already have such a file for Firefox, so I can't use Firefox for animated GIFs, text files or HTML files. I don't have one for Adobe Acrobat either, if I wanted to use that instead of xpdf for a badly-formed PDF or whatever. The reply to the bug was "oh everyone knows how to write a .desktop file!" I recently noticed that the list of editors that appears for any particular file is random, and usually has just gimp, or is totally empty. And in another bug I mentioned that when you close the main file list window, it unfloats it instead of closing the app as expected, and as gqview does. The reply was "we'll change the wording of the checkbox" I believe all these bugs have already been closed as pretty much "who cares?" so I'm not going to bother filing any more. Actually, I filed these on geequie itself, so you probably haven't seen them, come to think of it... The transition was decision of former gqview maintainer and nobody else wanted to step up to maintain gqview. Mostly because there is nothing better in gqview. If you are willing to maintain it and fix bugs in it, feel free to do so and I will remove the transitional package from geeqie. OK, I don't care. I'm not going to battle with people about this any more. I just want to find the version of the last real gqview package so I can download it and install it, and pin it so it doesn't get upgraded again. Problem solved for everybody. The "whack! where did my program go that I depend on several times a day? and I can't get the new one to do what the old one did! I'm screwed!" feeling has left me with no need to try geequie again. -gc -- Gene Cash -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#553920: Please don't provide a transitional package to, geeqie
Hi Dne Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:50:53 -0500 Gene Cash napsal(a): > OK, then, what's the last real version of gqview, so I can reinstall the > package and get rid of this piece of junk, and pin it in my apt preferences? > > It does very irritating things with its windows, and it has already > managed to delete a lot of my .desktop files. What irritating things with windows? Where did it delete .desktop files? Including useful information in bug report is usually better than just ranting. > If I wanted to install geeqie, I'd done an "apt-get install geeqie" > > It was a very rude surprise to have one of my most-used programs be > magically changed to a different program by an update. The transition was decision of former gqview maintainer and nobody else wanted to step up to maintain gqview. Mostly because there is nothing better in gqview. If you are willing to maintain it and fix bugs in it, feel free to do so and I will remove the transitional package from geeqie. -- Michal Čihař | http://cihar.com | http://blog.cihar.com signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Bug#553920: Please don't provide a transitional package to, geeqie
OK, then, what's the last real version of gqview, so I can reinstall the package and get rid of this piece of junk, and pin it in my apt preferences? It does very irritating things with its windows, and it has already managed to delete a lot of my .desktop files. If I wanted to install geeqie, I'd done an "apt-get install geeqie" It was a very rude surprise to have one of my most-used programs be magically changed to a different program by an update. -gc -- Gene Cash Oracle Support Services (Orlando, FL USA) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#553920: Please don't provide a transitional package to geeqie
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Package: gqview Version: 1:1.0~beta2-3 Severity: normal Hi, Please do not provide a transitional package to geeqie as there is different functionality. Don't understand me wrong, I am using geeqie myself and also did some contributions to that software (as well as the german translation). But at the moment I'd like to use the both applications in parallel for the following reasons: - Geeqie is somewhat slower in some constellations. That happens if you have many pictures in one folder. - Geeqie has a other structure where to save the metadata informations. So selfmade scripts might fail using geeqie. There is also a issue how to migrate the old files in a safe way. However, I think to add this transitional package in the end would be a good idea but this takes some more time to settle down the code. Maybe for the moment you might use the version 2.1.5 with a suggest or recommend for geeqie. - -- System Information: Debian Release: 5.0.3 APT prefers stable APT policy: (800, 'stable'), (700, 'oldstable'), (600, 'unstable'), (60, 'experimental') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.6.28.7 Locale: LANG=de_DE, LC_CTYPE=de_DE (charmap=ISO-8859-1) (ignored: LC_ALL set to de_DE) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash - -- Klaus Ethgenhttp://www.ethgen.de/ pub 2048R/D1A4EDE5 2000-02-26 Klaus Ethgen Fingerprint: D7 67 71 C4 99 A6 D4 FE EA 40 30 57 3C 88 26 2B -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iQEVAwUBSu6ijp+OKpjRpO3lAQrALgf/YZGWF5uQcVEW8zLSMMTcVzzU3HOrOQ4E Vhp9Ed9F4cJ2fDCAJ8SdfL/r0MJwnkXMWuxwvOCd030nRK1sETwpF+jECUxL7XPf gPUNfEwui/mLwS+qZ23PdwvkvWfscGkkvvMWHSkrfMbMR2aI4HQ34O7mygFhHsrA BIrN90DNw/U5ICamCYqlihvMsv7NEccwLAn8ntKgz87K4NBzUrKe8bAXMI8bXyG1 2z90NyGiSWJukqWqfVYSeJpgpzDELpFLYmur5t1O/QgBjh6kS4uBSoeyW702+LI7 tFIMtB6N5JDh7eb9k3W6xpVs3245CzG5s3r+5fvU6eLkmA5RgydARg== =78zJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
