Bug#675453: [Pkg-gmagick-im-team] Bug#675453: Please hide the menu entry
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote: On 01.06.2012 17:42, roucaries bastien wrote: Thus we need to create a wrapper and use it on the deskop file: Please consider adding NotShowIn=GNOME; then. We don't want it to show up in the GNOME menu. Sorry why ? Why do you not want to show display that is a imagemanipulation program on gnome menu ? Thanks Bastien Thanks, Michael -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#675453: [Pkg-gmagick-im-team] Bug#675453: Please hide the menu entry
On 02.06.2012 15:31, roucaries bastien wrote: On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote: On 01.06.2012 17:42, roucaries bastien wrote: Thus we need to create a wrapper and use it on the deskop file: Please consider adding NotShowIn=GNOME; then. We don't want it to show up in the GNOME menu. Sorry why ? Why do you not want to show display that is a imagemanipulation program on gnome menu ? The gnome meta package installs inkscape, which has a recommends: imagemagick. This means imagemagick will be installed in a default GNOME installation. display.im6 overlaps with the functionality which is already provided by eog, which is GNOME's integrated image viewer. Plus, the icon of display.im6 looks ugly and it clutters the default menu. Michael -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#675453: [Pkg-gmagick-im-team] Bug#675453: Please hide the menu entry
On 02.06.2012 15:37, Michael Biebl wrote: The gnome meta package installs inkscape, which has a recommends: imagemagick. This means imagemagick will be installed in a default GNOME installation. display.im6 overlaps with the functionality which is already provided by eog, which is GNOME's integrated image viewer. Plus, the icon of display.im6 looks ugly and it clutters the default menu. We basically try to install and present a single tool for each job in a default GNOME installation. This one tool should be integrated as good as possible into GNOME and follow the GNOME HIG. display.im6 looks really alien with it's custom X toolkit, missing Font Antialiasing, and completely different interface behaviour. Hope that explains it. Michael -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#675453: [Pkg-gmagick-im-team] Bug#675453: Please hide the menu entry
n Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote: On 02.06.2012 15:31, roucaries bastien wrote: On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote: On 01.06.2012 17:42, roucaries bastien wrote: Thus we need to create a wrapper and use it on the deskop file: Please consider adding NotShowIn=GNOME; then. We don't want it to show up in the GNOME menu. Sorry why ? Why do you not want to show display that is a imagemanipulation program on gnome menu ? The gnome meta package installs inkscape, which has a recommends: imagemagick. This means imagemagick will be installed in a default GNOME installation. 1. Yes for sure, but out of topic I think. display.im6 overlaps with the functionality which is already provided by eog, which is GNOME's integrated image viewer. 2. Yes and no, it a question of policy. BTW why do not ask to remove GIMP for gnome menu ? I will remove imagemagick when you will remove GIMP* Plus, the icon of display.im6 looks ugly and it clutters the default menu. Yes, point taken next upload will add a svg icon (see #675484). Bastien * I am joking here but it is only to show you that your logic is at least flawed here. In my day jobs it is call a counterexample, and really useful to kill long mathematical development. Michael -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#675453: [Pkg-gmagick-im-team] Bug#675453: Please hide the menu entry
clone 675453 -1 retitle 675453 Menu entry of imagemagick does not lauch it severity -1 wishlist thanks On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote: On 02.06.2012 15:37, Michael Biebl wrote: The gnome meta package installs inkscape, which has a recommends: imagemagick. This means imagemagick will be installed in a default GNOME installation. display.im6 overlaps with the functionality which is already provided by eog, which is GNOME's integrated image viewer. Plus, the icon of display.im6 looks ugly and it clutters the default menu. We basically try to install and present a single tool for each job in a default GNOME installation. This one tool should be integrated as good as possible into GNOME and follow the GNOME HIG. display.im6 looks really alien with it's custom X toolkit, missing Font Antialiasing, and completely different interface behaviour. I strongly diagree, for this. For instance under new gnome menu, I could not find xfig and I should run it from console or from alt+F2. And inkscape is not feature comparable with xfig Best will be to have this legacy but neithertheless useful apps under a subdirectory of graphics menu So i am cloning this bug report, in two parts: 1. imagemagick menu does not work 2. this bug report. And I am believe I will tag wontfix this bug report or block by the sugestion above at your wish. Bastien Hope that explains it. Michael -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#675453: [Pkg-gmagick-im-team] Bug#675453: Please hide the menu entry
On 02.06.2012 16:25, roucaries bastien wrote: And I am believe I will tag wontfix this bug report or block by the sugestion above at your wish. Nevermind. I'll just blacklist display in gnome-menus then. -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#675453: [Pkg-gmagick-im-team] Bug#675453: Please hide the menu entry
On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote: On 02.06.2012 16:25, roucaries bastien wrote: And I am believe I will tag wontfix this bug report or block by the sugestion above at your wish. Nevermind. I'll just blacklist display in gnome-menus then. Sorry do not do that... Could you please give me the line of the policy ? I do not read this on the policy. Could youask therefore to at least debian devel about this ? For now it is only your and mine subjective point of view, and it is not really democra Thank you very much Bastien what think debian is concensus -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#675453: [Pkg-gmagick-im-team] Bug#675453: Please hide the menu entry
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote: Package: imagemagick Version: 8:6.7.7.2-1 Severity: important File: /usr/share/applications/display.im6.desktop Hi, the latest upload of imagemagick added a .desktop file for the display utility. GNOME already has an integrated image viewer, so making it show up in the menu is a bit confusion. It also has a low resolution icon which looks really bad in gnome-shell (see attached screenshot). What's worse, when clicking on the menu icon, nothing happens. It seems to be only useful in the context menu of a file manager, i.e. when it is passed a image file. Please consider adding NotShowIn=GNOME; to the .desktop file so it won't show up at all in GNOME, or at least add a NoDisplay=true. This way it doesn't show up in the menus but can still be started via the file association in the file manager. Michael No it should work but it does not. try on the console: /usr/bin/display.im6 you will see display the problem is different, in fact imagemagick read if you do not specify stdin, and from menu entry stdin is /dev/null, therefore it close immediatly. Now if you are on console it use isatty before opening tty. Thus we need to create a wrapper and use it on the deskop file: something like this: #!/bin/sh if [ $# -ge 1 ]; then /usr/bin/display.im6 $@ else /usr/bin/display.im6 magick:logo fi thanks for the bug report. -- System Information: Debian Release: wheezy/sid APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (200, 'experimental') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Kernel: Linux 3.2.0-2-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=de_DE.utf8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.utf8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Versions of packages imagemagick depends on: ii libbz2-1.0 1.0.6-1 ii libc6 2.13-32 ii libfontconfig1 2.9.0-6 ii libfreetype6 2.4.9-1 ii libglib2.0-0 2.32.3-1 ii libgomp1 4.7.0-11 ii libice6 2:1.0.8-2 ii libjpeg8 8d-1 ii liblcms2-2 2.2+git20110628-2.2 ii liblqr-1-0 0.4.1-1.1 ii libltdl7 2.4.2-1 ii liblzma5 5.1.1alpha+20110809-3 ii libmagickcore5 8:6.7.7.2-1 ii libmagickwand5 8:6.7.7.2-1 ii libsm6 2:1.2.1-2 ii libtiff4 3.9.6-5 ii libx11-6 2:1.4.99.901-2 ii libxext6 2:1.3.1-2 ii libxt6 1:1.1.3-1 ii zlib1g 1:1.2.7.dfsg-11 Versions of packages imagemagick recommends: ii ghostscript 9.05~dfsg-6 ii libmagickcore5-extra 8:6.7.7.2-1 ii netpbm 2:10.0-15+b1 ii ufraw-batch 0.18-1.1+b2 Versions of packages imagemagick suggests: ii autotrace none ii cups-bsd [lpr] 1.5.3-1 ii curl 7.26.0-1 ii enscript none ii ffmpeg none ii gimp 2.8.0-2 ii gnuplot 4.6.0-8 ii grads none ii groff-base 1.21-7 ii hp2xx none ii html2ps none ii imagemagick-doc none ii libwmf-bin 0.2.8.4-10 ii mplayer none ii povray none ii radiance none ii sane-utils 1.0.22-7.1 ii texlive-binaries [texlive-base-bin] 2012.20120530-2 ii transfig none ii xdg-utils 1.1.0~rc1+git20111210-6 -- no debconf information ___ Pkg-gmagick-im-team mailing list pkg-gmagick-im-t...@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-gmagick-im-team -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#675453: [Pkg-gmagick-im-team] Bug#675453: Please hide the menu entry
On 01.06.2012 17:42, roucaries bastien wrote: Thus we need to create a wrapper and use it on the deskop file: Please consider adding NotShowIn=GNOME; then. We don't want it to show up in the GNOME menu. Thanks, Michael -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
