Bug#407132: hal: Circumvents invoke-rc.d (and thus policy-rc.d) in postinst
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Biebl wrote: > I agree with Sjoerd. It's definitely not an RC bug. Why? Lack of solution is not an argument for lowering severity. > If you want to control the starting of hal via policy-rc.d, you have to > do that indirectly via the dbus init script. How? On a system with policy-d responding errorcode 101 always, the hal daemon is started on package update. > We are basically bound by the limitations of our current init system. I agree. Which means this bug stays open, not that severity is low. > As hal depends on dbus, it has to be restarted/stopped when dbus is > restarted/stopped. That's why we came up with the solution we have now. > Having the hal start script installed as init script in /etc/init.d/ > would cause more problems than it would solve. I agree that the current approach is better for most cases, and I do not suggest to change to a simpler approach. But still, the current approach does not follow policy, and it does cause real harm for some. - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ - Enden er nær: http://www.shibumi.org/eoti.htm -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFrfUTn7DbMsAkQLgRAlFVAJ9BjCLdS5DD3mNuW+6WNj73pogIHgCeMilb Xo/DrcX4TJASvgJ5I0Vq34Q= =CNDa -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Processed: Re: Bug#407132: hal: Circumvents invoke-rc.d (and thus policy-rc.d) in postinst
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Bug#407132: hal: Circumvents invoke-rc.d (and thus policy-rc.d) in postinst
severity 407132 minor thanks, On Tue, Jan 16, 2007 at 01:29:12PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Package: hal > Version: 0.5.8.1-6 > Severity: serious > Justification: Policy 9.3.3.2 > > > The hal postinst restarts a provided daemon directly, without consulting > policy-rc.d. > > More detailed, it adds a subscript for dbus to maintain, force-reloads dbus > and then directly restarts that specific subscript (probably to force-restart > that sub-daemon but no other dbus-maintained daemons). > > > Debian Policy 9.3.3.2 states that "package maintainer scripts must use > `invoke-rc.d' to invoke the `/etc/init.d/*' initscripts, instead of calling > them directly.". > > > I can only interpret the dbus subscript as indirectly being part of the > `/etc/init.d/*' initscripts. Maybe, but is is _not_ managed by sysvinit but by the dbus init scripts, thus it can't use invoke-rc.d. While i agree it's not as nice it coulde be, i don't see a real solution untill we get an init system that properly supports events Sjoerd -- "In order to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe." -- Carl Sagan, Cosmos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Processed (with 5 errors): Re: Bug#407132: hal: Circumvents invoke-rc.d (and thus policy-rc.d) in postinst
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > severity 407132 minor Bug#407132: hal: Circumvents invoke-rc.d (and thus policy-rc.d) in postinst Severity set to `minor' from `serious' > thanks, Unknown command or malformed arguments to command. > On Tue, Jan 16, 2007 at 01:29:12PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Unknown command or malformed arguments to command. > > Package: hal Unknown command or malformed arguments to command. > > Version: 0.5.8.1-6 Unknown command or malformed arguments to command. > > Severity: serious Unknown command or malformed arguments to command. Too many unknown commands, stopping here. Please contact me if you need assistance. Debian bug tracking system administrator (administrator, Debian Bugs database) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#407132: hal: Circumvents invoke-rc.d (and thus policy-rc.d) in postinst
Package: hal Version: 0.5.8.1-6 Severity: serious Justification: Policy 9.3.3.2 The hal postinst restarts a provided daemon directly, without consulting policy-rc.d. More detailed, it adds a subscript for dbus to maintain, force-reloads dbus and then directly restarts that specific subscript (probably to force-restart that sub-daemon but no other dbus-maintained daemons). Debian Policy 9.3.3.2 states that "package maintainer scripts must use `invoke-rc.d' to invoke the `/etc/init.d/*' initscripts, instead of calling them directly.". I can only interpret the dbus subscript as indirectly being part of the `/etc/init.d/*' initscripts. I believe this to be a severe policy violation: Policy promises a policy-rc.d setup to be in control of which daemons are invoked on a system. Packaging scripts starting system daemons by invoking scripts meant to be chainloaded by init.d scripts defeats this. I do not, however, believe this to be release critical: I would prefer Etch to ship even with this policy.violating bug, rather than without the hal package (which I also suspect would cripple/pullout Gnome and other major parts of the distribution). But instead of playing bug severity games, please consult the release team to get this bug etch-ignore'd. Kind regards, Jonas -- System Information: Debian Release: 4.0 APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable') Architecture: powerpc (ppc) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.18-3-powerpc Locale: LANG=da_DK.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=da_DK.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Versions of packages hal depends on: ii adduser 3.101Add and remove users and groups ii dbus1.0.2-1 simple interprocess messaging syst ii libc6 2.3.6.ds1-10 GNU C Library: Shared libraries ii libdbus-1-3 1.0.2-1 simple interprocess messaging syst ii libdbus-glib-1-20.71-3 simple interprocess messaging syst ii libexpat1 1.95.8-3.4 XML parsing C library - runtime li ii libglib2.0-02.12.6-2 The GLib library of C routines ii libhal-storage1 0.5.8.1-6Hardware Abstraction Layer - share ii libhal1 0.5.8.1-6Hardware Abstraction Layer - share ii libusb-0.1-42:0.1.12-2 userspace USB programming library ii libvolume-id0 0.103-2 libvolume_id shared library ii lsb-base3.1-22 Linux Standard Base 3.1 init scrip ii pciutils1:2.2.4-1Linux PCI Utilities ii udev0.103-2 /dev/ and hotplug management daemo ii usbutils0.72-7 USB console utilities Versions of packages hal recommends: ii eject 2.1.4-2.1 ejects CDs and operates CD-Changer -- no debconf information -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
