Bug#520445: speech-tools: tries to overwrite file owned by powerman

2009-04-03 Thread Arnaud Quette
salut Ralf,

2009/4/3 Ralf Treinen 

> Hello Kumar, Arnaud,
>
> On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 08:53:21AM -0500, Kumar Appaiah wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 03:44:05PM +0200, Arnaud Quette wrote:
> > >2009/4/2 Kumar Appaiah <[1]a.ku...@alumni.iitm.ac.in>
> > >  I have uploaded speech-tools/1:1.2.96~beta-4 to unstable, which is
> > >  supposed to fix this problem. Unfortunately, it looks as though it
> > >  will not migrate to testing automatically as it says "Updating
> > >  speech-tools introduces new bugs: #520445" on the PTS page. Does
> > >  powerman also require an upload? Or is there a way to indicate
> that
> > >  this issue has been sorted out?
> > >
> > >  Thanks, and sorry for the trouble.
> > >
> > >have you marked the bug as being closed by your upload (ie adding a
> > >"Closes: #520445" in debian/changelog). Since the bug is shared by
> the 2
> > >packages, this should fix the situation.
> > >cheers,
> >
> > Seems so:
> >
> > http://packages.qa.debian.org/s/speech-tools/news/20090328T153211Z.html
> >
> > In fact, the graph generated in the BTS also shows this aspect, which
> > led me to the confusion.
>
> Normally it should be OK when one of the two packages closes the bug.
> That is the sematics of assigning a bug to two packages. However,
> I am not sure whether that feature of the BTS is used a lot so I
> wouldn't exclude completely that there is a bug. Please observe
> what is going on with the packages, if they continue to be blocked
> from testing migration please talk to the release team.
>
> Anyway, hanks for fixing taht bug :-) -Ralf.
>

I've an upload scheduled for i10n and at least 2 bug fixes around april 14.
so for my part, if nut is still blocked, that will trigger a rebuild...

cheers,
Arnaud
-- 
Linux / Unix Expert R&D - Eaton - http://www.eaton.com/mgeops
Network UPS Tools (NUT) Project Leader - http://www.networkupstools.org/
Debian Developer - http://people.debian.org/~aquette/
Free Software Developer - http://arnaud.quette.free.fr/


Bug#520445: speech-tools: tries to overwrite file owned by powerman

2009-04-02 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 12:34:52AM +0200, Ralf Treinen wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 03:44:05PM +0200, Arnaud Quette wrote:
> > >have you marked the bug as being closed by your upload (ie adding a
> > >"Closes: #520445" in debian/changelog). Since the bug is shared by the 
> > > 2
> > >packages, this should fix the situation.
> > >cheers,
> > 
> > Seems so:
> > 
> > http://packages.qa.debian.org/s/speech-tools/news/20090328T153211Z.html
> > 
> > In fact, the graph generated in the BTS also shows this aspect, which
> > led me to the confusion.
> 
> Normally it should be OK when one of the two packages closes the bug.
> That is the sematics of assigning a bug to two packages. However,
> I am not sure whether that feature of the BTS is used a lot so I
> wouldn't exclude completely that there is a bug. Please observe
> what is going on with the packages, if they continue to be blocked
> from testing migration please talk to the release team.

Thanks for the clarification, Ralf. I'll get in touch with the release
team after the 10 day waiting period.

Kumar
-- 
Kumar Appaiah


signature.asc
Description: Digital signature


Bug#520445: speech-tools: tries to overwrite file owned by powerman

2009-04-02 Thread Ralf Treinen
Hello Kumar, Arnaud,

On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 08:53:21AM -0500, Kumar Appaiah wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 03:44:05PM +0200, Arnaud Quette wrote:
> >2009/4/2 Kumar Appaiah <[1]a.ku...@alumni.iitm.ac.in>
> >  I have uploaded speech-tools/1:1.2.96~beta-4 to unstable, which is
> >  supposed to fix this problem. Unfortunately, it looks as though it
> >  will not migrate to testing automatically as it says "Updating
> >  speech-tools introduces new bugs: #520445" on the PTS page. Does
> >  powerman also require an upload? Or is there a way to indicate that
> >  this issue has been sorted out?
> > 
> >  Thanks, and sorry for the trouble.
> > 
> >have you marked the bug as being closed by your upload (ie adding a
> >"Closes: #520445" in debian/changelog). Since the bug is shared by the 2
> >packages, this should fix the situation.
> >cheers,
> 
> Seems so:
> 
> http://packages.qa.debian.org/s/speech-tools/news/20090328T153211Z.html
> 
> In fact, the graph generated in the BTS also shows this aspect, which
> led me to the confusion.

Normally it should be OK when one of the two packages closes the bug.
That is the sematics of assigning a bug to two packages. However,
I am not sure whether that feature of the BTS is used a lot so I
wouldn't exclude completely that there is a bug. Please observe
what is going on with the packages, if they continue to be blocked
from testing migration please talk to the release team.

Anyway, hanks for fixing taht bug :-) -Ralf.



-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-rc-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org



Bug#520445: speech-tools: tries to overwrite file owned by powerman

2009-04-02 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 03:44:05PM +0200, Arnaud Quette wrote:
>2009/4/2 Kumar Appaiah <[1]a.ku...@alumni.iitm.ac.in>
>  I have uploaded speech-tools/1:1.2.96~beta-4 to unstable, which is
>  supposed to fix this problem. Unfortunately, it looks as though it
>  will not migrate to testing automatically as it says "Updating
>  speech-tools introduces new bugs: #520445" on the PTS page. Does
>  powerman also require an upload? Or is there a way to indicate that
>  this issue has been sorted out?
> 
>  Thanks, and sorry for the trouble.
> 
>have you marked the bug as being closed by your upload (ie adding a
>"Closes: #520445" in debian/changelog). Since the bug is shared by the 2
>packages, this should fix the situation.
>cheers,

Seems so:

http://packages.qa.debian.org/s/speech-tools/news/20090328T153211Z.html

In fact, the graph generated in the BTS also shows this aspect, which
led me to the confusion.

Kumar
-- 
Kumar Appaiah



-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-rc-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org



Bug#520445: speech-tools: tries to overwrite file owned by powerman

2009-04-02 Thread Arnaud Quette
Hi Kumar,

2009/4/2 Kumar Appaiah 

> Dear Arnaud and Ralf (Jim kept in CC),
>
> I have uploaded speech-tools/1:1.2.96~beta-4 to unstable, which is
> supposed to fix this problem. Unfortunately, it looks as though it
> will not migrate to testing automatically as it says "Updating
> speech-tools introduces new bugs: #520445" on the PTS page. Does
> powerman also require an upload? Or is there a way to indicate that
> this issue has been sorted out?
>
> Thanks, and sorry for the trouble.
>
>
have you marked the bug as being closed by your upload (ie adding a "Closes:
#520445" in debian/changelog). Since the bug is shared by the 2 packages,
this should fix the situation.

cheers,
Arnaud
-- 
Linux / Unix Expert R&D - Eaton - http://www.eaton.com/mgeops
Network UPS Tools (NUT) Project Leader - http://www.networkupstools.org/
Debian Developer - http://people.debian.org/~aquette/
Free Software Developer - http://arnaud.quette.free.fr/


Bug#520445: speech-tools: tries to overwrite file owned by powerman

2009-04-02 Thread Kumar Appaiah
Dear Arnaud and Ralf (Jim kept in CC),

I have uploaded speech-tools/1:1.2.96~beta-4 to unstable, which is
supposed to fix this problem. Unfortunately, it looks as though it
will not migrate to testing automatically as it says "Updating
speech-tools introduces new bugs: #520445" on the PTS page. Does
powerman also require an upload? Or is there a way to indicate that
this issue has been sorted out?

Thanks, and sorry for the trouble.

Kumar
-- 
Kumar Appaiah


signature.asc
Description: Digital signature


Bug#520445: speech-tools: tries to overwrite file owned by powerman

2009-03-19 Thread Arnaud Quette
Hi Kumar,

Jim has a point with the compat, and the fact that power related topics are
*very* sensible.
so thanks for opening the door.

2009/3/19 Kumar Appaiah 

> Dear Arnaud,
>
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:39:44PM +0100, Arnaud Quette wrote:
> >The best solution is to solve this upstream, by renaming one or the
> other.
> >In PowerMan, pm stands well for Power Man, and is the client tool.
> >What is exactly pm in speech-tools?
>
> It is a non-sophisticated pitchmarking Perl script. Because the
> pitchmark program does this anyway, I don't think there should be a
> problem in renaming pm to something more sensible, though I can't
> think of any such name. Do you have a suggestion?
>

since I don't use these, and have only a vague idea of the purpose, it's a
bit hard.
moreover knowing that there is already a pitchmark binary with a man
placeholder too!
a few possibilities: simple-pitchmark, perl-pitchmark

cheers,
Arnaud
-- 
Linux / Unix Expert R&D - Eaton - http://www.eaton.com/mgeops
Network UPS Tools (NUT) Project Leader - http://www.networkupstools.org/
Debian Developer - http://people.debian.org/~aquette/
Free Software Developer - http://arnaud.quette.free.fr/


Bug#520445: speech-tools: tries to overwrite file owned by powerman

2009-03-19 Thread Jim Garlick
Hi Arnaud and Kumar -

In PowerMan, pm is an alias for "powerman".  I believe I called that
out as a bad thing in a code review some six years ago, however I failed
to convince the maintainer at the time, and now doing so will likely break
a lot of poeple's scripts.  PowerMan is used for example by people's test
harnesses to simulate loss of a server when testing distributed software.

So while I agree with you, keeping it in will likely avoid some pain.

An option would be to remove it in debian/ubuntu only, as there is
less of an entrenched user base there.

Jim

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 05:13:28PM -0500, Kumar Appaiah wrote:
> Dear Arnaud,
> 
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:39:44PM +0100, Arnaud Quette wrote:
> >The best solution is to solve this upstream, by renaming one or the 
> > other.
> >In PowerMan, pm stands well for Power Man, and is the client tool.
> >What is exactly pm in speech-tools?
> 
> It is a non-sophisticated pitchmarking Perl script. Because the
> pitchmark program does this anyway, I don't think there should be a
> problem in renaming pm to something more sensible, though I can't
> think of any such name. Do you have a suggestion?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Kumar
> -- 
> Kumar Appaiah





-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-rc-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org



Bug#520445: speech-tools: tries to overwrite file owned by powerman

2009-03-19 Thread Kumar Appaiah
Dear Arnaud,

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:39:44PM +0100, Arnaud Quette wrote:
>The best solution is to solve this upstream, by renaming one or the other.
>In PowerMan, pm stands well for Power Man, and is the client tool.
>What is exactly pm in speech-tools?

It is a non-sophisticated pitchmarking Perl script. Because the
pitchmark program does this anyway, I don't think there should be a
problem in renaming pm to something more sensible, though I can't
think of any such name. Do you have a suggestion?

Thanks.

Kumar
-- 
Kumar Appaiah


signature.asc
Description: Digital signature


Bug#520445: speech-tools: tries to overwrite file owned by powerman

2009-03-19 Thread Arnaud Quette
Salut Ralph, Jim,

@Jim (Powerman upstream):
speech-tools and powerman both install files with the same name (namely "pm"
and its manpage).
while the latter has already been reported and somehow fixed [1] (thanks
Kumar BTW ;-), the former [2] wasn't. The full bug reports are linked below.

A quick investigation seems to show that the problem is limited to these 2
files.

The best solution is to solve this upstream, by renaming one or the other.
In PowerMan, pm stands well for Power Man, and is the client tool.
What is exactly pm in speech-tools?

@Jim (partly off-topic):
I personaly feel that 2 letters command names should be kept for the base
system itself (ls, cp, rm, ...)
A possible quick and acceptable (?) solution would be to rename Powerman's
pm to pmc or pmclient or powermanc or whatever suits you and is coherent.
Note that NUT currently use the former with upsc, but the reflexion underway
with the new PDU support is to merge the 3 client tools (upsc, upscmd,
upsrw) into a single nutclient or nut-client or ... you get the idea.
that might be another point in favor of the nut merge ;-)

cheers,
Arnaud
--
[1] http://bugs.debian.org/520001
[2] http://bugs.debian.org/520445
-- 
Linux / Unix Expert R&D - Eaton - http://www.eaton.com/mgeops
Network UPS Tools (NUT) Project Leader - http://www.networkupstools.org/
Debian Developer - http://people.debian.org/~aquette/
Free Software Developer - http://arnaud.quette.free.fr/