Bug#762672: qt-at-spi: when this package is installed, other programs fail to run
Control: severity -1 important Hello, lightdm-gtk-greeter has been fixed, both in Debian with a small hack, and upstream with proper at-spi termination. I believe the severity of this bug can thus be downgraded to important, since it will not show up in any normal conditions any more. Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-rc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Processed: Re: Bug#762672: qt-at-spi: when this package is installed, other programs fail to run
Processing control commands: severity -1 important Bug #762672 [qt-at-spi] qt-at-spi: when this package is installed, other programs fail to run Severity set to 'important' from 'critical' -- 762672: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=762672 Debian Bug Tracking System Contact ow...@bugs.debian.org with problems -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-rc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#762672: qt-at-spi: when this package is installed, other programs fail to run
pa...@ucw.cz, le Sun 19 Oct 2014 19:19:34 +0200, a écrit : In my scenario (MATE + KDE apps), QT programs actually start, but with about two minute delay. And the breakage was not due to lightdm (it happenned with both gdm3 and lightdm) I'm very surprised by this happening with gdm3 too, I'd probably need more details to be able to reproduce it. In your environment, does xprop -root | grep SPI show an AT_SPI_BUS variable? Are at-spi-bus-launcher and at-spi2-registryd running under your identity? I guess the at-spi2-core package is installed? (you didn't say it got removed). But it seems much more reasonable to me to just not make it hang for 1-2 minutes when no accessibility API can be contacted. :) I agree. I'm however wondering how much time it could take me to manage to understand the Qt code which is blocking like this. Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-rc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#762672: qt-at-spi: when this package is installed, other programs fail to run
Samuel Thibault, le Sun 19 Oct 2014 20:12:33 +0200, a écrit : pa...@ucw.cz, le Sun 19 Oct 2014 19:19:34 +0200, a écrit : But it seems much more reasonable to me to just not make it hang for 1-2 minutes when no accessibility API can be contacted. :) I agree. I'm however wondering how much time it could take me to manage to understand the Qt code which is blocking like this. Could you also try to reduce service_start_timeout in /etc/at-spi2/accessibility.conf ? I guess the unit is ms, which indeed makes 12000 two minutes... Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-rc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#762672: qt-at-spi: when this package is installed, other programs fail to run
Hi! On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 08:12:33PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: pa...@ucw.cz, le Sun 19 Oct 2014 19:19:34 +0200, a écrit : In my scenario (MATE + KDE apps), QT programs actually start, but with about two minute delay. And the breakage was not due to lightdm (it happenned with both gdm3 and lightdm) I'm very surprised by this happening with gdm3 too, I'd probably need more details to be able to reproduce it. In your environment, does xprop -root | grep SPI show an AT_SPI_BUS variable? Are at-spi-bus-launcher and at-spi2-registryd running under your identity? I guess the at-spi2-core package is installed? (you didn't say it got removed). my apologies, I won't be able to try again with gdm3 in particular for some time now. However, the picture clearly is more complicated. Right now, I have lightdm session without lightdm's at-spi running anymore and since I do not have gnome-orca and its dependencies installed, clearly qt apps shouldn't be able to start - but they do. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure around the time I uninstalled gnome-orca, konsole starts got problematic even in gdm3 session I had before... I'm stumped. Maybe I'm just confused and fixing lightdm is good enough. Petr Baudis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-rc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#762672: qt-at-spi: when this package is installed, other programs fail to run
Petr Baudis, le Sun 19 Oct 2014 20:24:25 +0200, a écrit : However, the picture clearly is more complicated. Right now, I have lightdm session without lightdm's at-spi running anymore and since I do not have gnome-orca and its dependencies installed, clearly qt apps shouldn't be able to start - but they do. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure around the time I uninstalled gnome-orca, konsole starts got problematic even in gdm3 session I had before... I'm stumped. Maybe I'm just confused and fixing lightdm is good enough. Could you perhaps try the package I'm currently testing: http://dept-info.labri.fr/~thibault/tmp/lightdm-gtk-greeter.deb to make sure it fixes things in your current case? Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-rc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#762672: qt-at-spi: when this package is installed, other programs fail to run
On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 08:46:01PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: Petr Baudis, le Sun 19 Oct 2014 20:24:25 +0200, a écrit : However, the picture clearly is more complicated. Right now, I have lightdm session without lightdm's at-spi running anymore and since I do not have gnome-orca and its dependencies installed, clearly qt apps shouldn't be able to start - but they do. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure around the time I uninstalled gnome-orca, konsole starts got problematic even in gdm3 session I had before... I'm stumped. Maybe I'm just confused and fixing lightdm is good enough. Could you perhaps try the package I'm currently testing: http://dept-info.labri.fr/~thibault/tmp/lightdm-gtk-greeter.deb to make sure it fixes things in your current case? It does! Not sure how comes, since at-spi as lightdm is still running, but a second instance running with my uid comes up fine... lightdm 19839 0.0 0.0 337708 5536 ?Sl 20:53 0:00 /usr/lib/at-spi2-core/at-spi-bus-launcher lightdm 19843 0.0 0.0 42108 3372 ?S20:53 0:00 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --config-file=/etc/at-spi2/accessibility.conf --nofork --print-address 3 lightdm 19846 0.0 0.0 125188 5300 ?Sl 20:53 0:00 /usr/lib/at-spi2-core/at-spi2-registryd --use-gnome-session pasky20038 0.0 0.0 337768 5652 ?Sl 20:54 0:00 /usr/lib/at-spi2-core/at-spi-bus-launcher pasky20042 0.0 0.0 42108 3328 ?S20:54 0:00 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --config-file=/etc/at-spi2/accessibility.conf --nofork --print-address 3 pasky20045 0.0 0.0 125192 4980 ?Sl 20:54 0:00 /usr/lib/at-spi2-core/at-spi2-registryd --use-gnome-session pasky20238 0.0 0.0 12864 2388 pts/0S+ 20:54 0:00 grep spi ...and Qt apps like konsole and okular that were timing out before start just fine now. Petr Baudis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-rc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#762672: qt-at-spi: when this package is installed, other programs fail to run
Petr Baudis, le Sun 19 Oct 2014 20:57:26 +0200, a écrit : Not sure how comes, since at-spi as lightdm is still running, but a second instance running with my uid comes up fine... That's the idea: managing to shutdown the processes left behind will probably be not trivial, so my patch just drops the reference to them, so they can just live on the side without even getting contacted, and the user session starts its own ones. On logout, all of them get killed along the way. Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-rc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
