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Re: Bug#123948: can someone test the patch?
One things that came up in the BTS is that the debian-cd package currently doesn't need to manipulate the *.bin images that boot-floppies makes for it. If I understand correctly what we are discussing here the debian-cd package will need to 'mount -o loop' during the build to add those files. That will have to be done as root. At one point we were trying to avoid that. FWIW, -David Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 04:08:21PM + wrote: > On Fri, 2002-03-01 at 13:09, Eduard Bloch wrote: > > A good compromise. I suggest two kinds of flags on the CD-ROM: > > > > .disk/kernel_installable > > .disk/base_installable > > > > The first marks the disk containing kernel and modules, the second the > > one with the basedebs. > > Sounds fine to me. > > p. > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#123948: can someone test the patch?
Philip Charles wrote: >On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, Eduard Bloch wrote: > >>Phil Blundell wrote on Fri Mar 01, 2002 um 12:23:12PM: >> >>A good compromise. I suggest two kinds of flags on the CD-ROM: >> >>.disk/kernel_installable >>.disk/base_installable >> >>The first marks the disk containing kernel and modules, the second the >>one with the basedebs. >> I am interested in this thread because I do many Debian installs sometimes several a day. My experience is not enough that I have been able to make my own custom boot cd. So I would like a lot less dialog boxes. However I am unable to say what should be removed. Maybe if there was a list right at first allowing me to choose weather I wanted default settings for partions, networking, etc. Or if I wanted to customize. because that is basically all mandarke does at each step is ask if you want it auto configured or not. I know I don't need all the dialogue boxes but my case is pretty specialized and maybe I should just learn how to write my own install program. But I would be glad to help anybody working on reducing the number of dialog boxes during the install. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: download softwares
On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, Richard Atterer wrote: > On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 02:41:21AM +0100, Bernard Massot wrote: > > I was very astonished when I viewed this page : > > http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/ > > You advise the reader to use wget if he is a unix user or getright > > if he is a windoze user. But wget *does* run under windoze et > > getright is a proprietary software ! > > GetRight even is a spyware, I'm told! :-/ No it isn't. I own a copy of GetRight and it is reliable software and has fetched me numerous iso files and inlcudes a crude support of choosing the fastest mirror near you. Don't forget that getright comes with some features wget has not and the other way around. If you pay for getright it will also disable banners and such. You could also use GoZilla although YMMV. I had differing results with that one. > If anybody knows about a Free *GUI* download program under Windows > which supports HTTP ranges, please tell me and I'll gladly remove the > GetRight reference. GoZilla is possible but that one might have more hidden features them you want. I created the original dutch language dll for getright 3.1 with a friend. I have roughly an idea of the man who made getright. I would say he is trustworthy. > I take your point... what do other people on the list think, should > the GetRight link go even though that will mean that more people might > download with their browsers? Propierty or not, if you are already using windows I don't see what's the point. It is reliable it works and you can even use it for the first 30 days for free and deinstall it later if you want. I paid the $17,50 dollar by sending them in a letter to america from the netherlands. To this day I still use this software on a daily basis. If there is spyware I think I would have noticed it across the 8 versions I have used over the last 3 years. No I am not related to Micheal Burford or Headlight Software, I am not trying to sell getright, just explaining why not giving people a choice and let them work out what they think is best. Cheers Seth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: download softwares
Richard Atterer wrote: > If anybody knows about a Free *GUI* download program under Windows > which supports HTTP ranges, please tell me and I'll gladly remove the > GetRight reference. A quick poke around TUCOWS came up with: Fresh Download v3.10 (Freeware) - Home: http://www.freshdevices.com/freshdown.html - TUCOWS: http://www.tucows.com/preview/217686.html I've no experience with it, but Googling only turned up positive reviews. I'll experiment with it a bit this weekend. Any one have feedback? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#123948: can someone test the patch?
On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, Eduard Bloch wrote: > Phil Blundell wrote on Fri Mar 01, 2002 um 12:23:12PM: > > A good compromise. I suggest two kinds of flags on the CD-ROM: > > .disk/kernel_installable > .disk/base_installable > > The first marks the disk containing kernel and modules, the second the > one with the basedebs. > This seems OK to me as it does not affect heavily modified custom CDs, eg the Hurd. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux & GNU/Hurd CDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: download softwares
On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 02:41:21AM +0100, Bernard Massot wrote: > I was very astonished when I viewed this page : > http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/ > You advise the reader to use wget if he is a unix user or getright > if he is a windoze user. But wget *does* run under windoze et > getright is a proprietary software ! GetRight even is a spyware, I'm told! :-/ However, OTOH telling people to use wget is counter-productive, IMHO. Your average Windows user is simply not prepared to type in obscure commands at the DOS prompt, and will rather use his browser to download... If anybody knows about a Free *GUI* download program under Windows which supports HTTP ranges, please tell me and I'll gladly remove the GetRight reference. > I can't believe the debian team promotes proprietary instead of free > software ! For me debian was the distribution which was the most > pro-free software. Please update your site. I take your point... what do other people on the list think, should the GetRight link go even though that will mean that more people might download with their browsers? Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | CS student at the Technische | GnuPG key: | \/¯| http://atterer.net | Universität München, Germany | 0x888354F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Bug#123948: can someone test the patch?
On Fri, 2002-03-01 at 13:09, Eduard Bloch wrote: > A good compromise. I suggest two kinds of flags on the CD-ROM: > > .disk/kernel_installable > .disk/base_installable > > The first marks the disk containing kernel and modules, the second the > one with the basedebs. Sounds fine to me. p. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#123948: can someone test the patch?
#include Phil Blundell wrote on Fri Mar 01, 2002 um 12:23:12PM: > How about a compromise. If an attractive-looking CD is detected in the > drive, pop up a single dialogue box at the beginning along the lines of > "I see you have a Debian CD-ROM. Do you want to use this as the source > medium for all the installation files?". If the user answers yes, A good compromise. I suggest two kinds of flags on the CD-ROM: .disk/kernel_installable .disk/base_installable The first marks the disk containing kernel and modules, the second the one with the basedebs. > behave as if they had booted with the "cdrom" argument and suppress all > the media-selection menus; if they answer no, prompt as usual. I looked trough the source, and I would like to rewrite most of the cruft, beginning with is_cdrom_image(). Gruss/Regards, Eduard. -- Fuchur: Finger weg von Inn, damit kannn man sich schneller als einem lieb ist in den Fuss schiessen. Fuchur: Vertraue mir. Hmm, shorty kling so als koenne er die Loecher in seinen Fuessen nicht mehr zaehlen... -- #debian.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#123948: can someone test the patch?
On Fri, 2002-03-01 at 11:56, Eduard Bloch wrote: > Maybe I got the wrong impression, but why do we do all this detection > and _force_ the user to use that Cd? The idea was to reduce the number of questions that the user gets asked. Debian's installer has long been notorious for forcing you to navigate through countless dialogue boxes, usually just accepting the defaults at every stage. This is tedious and potentially confusing for users. How about a compromise. If an attractive-looking CD is detected in the drive, pop up a single dialogue box at the beginning along the lines of "I see you have a Debian CD-ROM. Do you want to use this as the source medium for all the installation files?". If the user answers yes, behave as if they had booted with the "cdrom" argument and suppress all the media-selection menus; if they answer no, prompt as usual. Also, I am now coming round to the point of view that maybe this decision should be decoupled from the issue of whether the CD is "official" or not. Debian-cd folk, how about adding a new file called ".disk/installable" or some such, whose presence signals that boot-floppies should treat the CD as an install disk. That way people who are creating their own customised disks can make the decision for themselves rather than having to modify dbootstrap, second-guess its heuristics, or ask their users to supply boot arguments. p. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is the status of debian-cd?
Le Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 03:53:17PM +, Wookey écrivait: > Hello people, Hi, > Some while back now debian-cd got in a bit of a state such that you couldn't > use the same version to produce potato and woody CDs. Does the current > (CVS) version only produce woody CDs or can it still/now do potato too? I > could just try it, but I don't want to break my existing customised > CD-production system accidently, so I thought I'd ask what the current state > is believed to be first. The current CVS version builds CDs for potato & woody. The problem we had last time was that we added that "secured" stuff and this does break potato CDs. However this has been made "optional" and as such it's no more a problem (as long as you don't set SECURED=1 in CONF.sh). Cheers, -- Raphaël Hertzog -+- http://strasbourg.linuxfr.org/~raphael/ Formation Linux et logiciel libre : http://www.logidee.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: download softwares
Hi, "Attila Nagy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> írta 2002-03-01 10:16-kor: > > I can't believe the debian team promotes proprietary instead of free > > software ! For me debian was the distribution which was the most > > pro-free software. > Just look at the one core component of the Debian GNU/Linux. The kernel. > It is developed in a system which is a proprietary stuff. :) I said you many times: Debian doesn't depend on Linux! :) You can use Hurd instead of Linux! (It may less usable, because of it's limits... But there are new projects: debian-bsd, debian-solaris:) ) Sincerely, --- Pásztor György JATE PTM IV./ SZTE SZK & Ságvári Gimn. Linux rg / Utolsó mondás: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / - Te is fiam, Brutus? Mh. Tel.:(62) 544-415 Belső:44-15 / -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is the status of debian-cd?
Le Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 03:53:17PM +, Wookey écrivait: > Hello people, Hi, > Some while back now debian-cd got in a bit of a state such that you couldn't > use the same version to produce potato and woody CDs. Does the current > (CVS) version only produce woody CDs or can it still/now do potato too? I > could just try it, but I don't want to break my existing customised > CD-production system accidently, so I thought I'd ask what the current state > is believed to be first. The current CVS version builds CDs for potato & woody. The problem we had last time was that we added that "secured" stuff and this does break potato CDs. However this has been made "optional" and as such it's no more a problem (as long as you don't set SECURED=1 in CONF.sh). Cheers, -- Raphaël Hertzog -+- http://strasbourg.linuxfr.org/~raphael/ Formation Linux et logiciel libre : http://www.logidee.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Building DVD images
On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, Attila Nagy wrote: > Hello, > > > I also had to hack my list2cds-cram code to use kilobytes [...] > I think instead of depending on python, or any other big, and complicated > stuff it is enough to use bc for this task. > It is small and can work with bigger numbers too :) > I have built ~1.5 iso images consisting of all the slink binaries. This was done by using debian-cd with a very large SIZELIMIT to create the file-tree and using this file-tree to build an iso image with mkisofs. FYI, I used this very large image to create official CD images with rsync before I switched to the PIK. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux & GNU/Hurd CDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: download softwares
Hello, > I can't believe the debian team promotes proprietary instead of free > software ! For me debian was the distribution which was the most > pro-free software. Just look at the one core component of the Debian GNU/Linux. The kernel. It is developed in a system which is a proprietary stuff. :) -- Attila Nagye-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Budapest Polytechnic (BMF.HU) @work: +361 210 1415 (194) H-1084 Budapest, Tavaszmezo u. 15-17. cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Building DVD images
Hello, > I also had to hack my list2cds-cram code to use kilobytes [...] I think instead of depending on python, or any other big, and complicated stuff it is enough to use bc for this task. It is small and can work with bigger numbers too :) -- Attila Nagye-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Budapest Polytechnic (BMF.HU) @work: +361 210 1415 (194) H-1084 Budapest, Tavaszmezo u. 15-17. cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
