從 CLE 移植過來的新套件:qe-0.0.34 仿 PE2 文書處理器
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@從 CLE 移植過來的新套件:qe-0.0.34 已經包裝好,上傳至 Debian 裏面了, 尚在 Incoming 中。因為首 freeze 的 deadline 已至, qe 多不會納入 Debian 2.2 裏,但將會在 Debian woody (將來的 2.3) [EMAIL PROTECTED] SRPM 包裝者小虫兄。 ^_^ 有興趣的朋友可以在以下網址找到 qe_0.0.34-1_i386.deb 及其原始檔: http://debian.midco.net/debian/Incoming Package: qe Priority: optional Section: editors Installed-Size: 204 Maintainer: Anthony Fok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Version: 0.0.34-1 Depends: libc6 (>= 2.1.2), libncurses5, libstdc++2.10 Conffiles: /etc/qe/qe.pro 481adef1f4fe8c2e601fea00ddeedb46 /etc/qe/qe.hlp 0e20f35677a54ed2f6d89f0bbb5ac3d1 Description: A PE2-like text full-screen color text editor qe is a PE2-like full-screen color text editor. It's called "qe" because the letter "Q" comes after "P". Like PE2 on DOS, QE is a great editor for both English and Chinese (Big5 or GB) text. Features include: * Optional Big5 Chinese interface. * User-definable macros and keyboard settings. . Author: Jiann-Ching Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://www.cc.ncu.edu.tw/~center5/product/qe/ (Big5 Chinese) http://members.xoom.com/linux4tw/qe/ (English) -- Anthony Fok Tung-LingCivil and Environmental Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]University of Alberta, Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Keep smiling! *^_^* Come visit Our Lady of Victory Camp -- http://come.to/olvc
Re: xcin input method
On Wed, Jan 05, 2000 at 02:16:13PM -0700, Anthony Fok wrote: > On Wed, Jan 05, 2000 at 09:13:57AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > 是的,我正計畫要改寫 gen_inp, 看能否也加入行列 30 的這項需求。 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] 30 just work > > 就好了。目前還沒有腹案,有人可以提供建議嗎? :-)) > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED] patch,基本上已經符合行列30 > 的「字」輸入規格, > 解決了 w[0-9] 符號輸入和 "t" 鍵入「的」字、 "t1" 鍵入「隨」字 > 等問題。不過可能有點不正規,不知您喜不喜歡,加上我的 C 編程水平 > 實在有限,祈請參閱指正。 ^_^ 不過,現在用行列30打中文打得很順就是了。 ^_^ > (gen_inp.patch 和 array30.patch)。(嘻嘻,I [EMAIL PROTECTED] ^_^) 非常感謝! 我發現這年頭要偷懶真的起來越容易了 :-)) 我會參考您的 patch [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED] array30.cin, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] xcin 使用的 > array30.tab 下載,不過我猜是給 xcin2.3 使用的版本。也許可以跟他們說說 > 最新版本中 GNU/Linux 下對行列輸入法的支援實情。 我見到您寄給行列科技的信了 :-)) [EMAIL PROTECTED] :-)) 真是謝謝 :-)) > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 來給我?我都很樂意加入。 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]@從 Unihan.txt > 可以產出帶調的廣東話和客家話輸入法,當然也可以無調的。 > 建議:聲調多半用 [1-9] (廣東話九聲,不過其實其中三聲為入聲,可以說是 > 重覆了,所以有人也說廣東話六聲),有時加個 "." 當輕聲符號……嗯,如果 > 沿用 gen_inp [EMAIL PROTECTED] gen_inp 裏加入「聲調」的 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] *.cin 檔,用戶可以按 alt-ctrl-?? 鍵 > toggle 帶調或無調輸入模式。 ^_^ 我自己很少用拼音式的輸入法,不知 > 其他人意見如何? ^_^ 這個可以列如考慮,但不見得使用 alt-ctrl-?? 鍵,也可能就直接設定在 xcinrc 裏頭,看是否要開啟聲調模式。 [EMAIL PROTECTED]@連串 keystroke 的最後那個鍵囉! > [EMAIL PROTECTED]@如果您想要這些可從 Unihan.txt > 產出的輸入法,我遲些有空時可以試試。 > ^_^ 呵呵! 看來我又偷懶成功了! 謝謝您囉 :-)) > > 另外,我在想在 xcin [EMAIL PROTECTED] .cin 檔?是不 > > 是應該將大部分的 .cin [EMAIL PROTECTED] tarball, 而主程式的那個 > > tarball 只放幾個最常見的 table (如 cj.cin) 或根本不放任何 .cin > > table? 大家可以給我意見嗎? > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]@也有道理。我貪方便,不想把 array30.cin 分出來。 > 不過,有個想法,大可以設個 arbitrary 的 threshold 值,例如 1 MB, > 如果 xcin 的 tarball 超過 1 MB,就把各個 .cin 檔分出來,只保留其他 > 最常用的。 [EMAIL PROTECTED] :-)) 如果要弄的話,我可能等到 gen_inp 大修改之後,那時 cin2tab 也會修改, .cin 的格式會改變,正是抽出來的時機 :-)) > [EMAIL PROTECTED]@有道理。 ^_^ 不知 TurboLinux Chinese > 三劍俠(于明儉、方漢、陳向陽) > 的 chinput 對這些問題的處理如何?聽說他們有智能拼音的。其他功能我就不知道了。 > 只是他們的 .cit/.tit 檔跟 cxterm 和 Emacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 排序,沒有簡碼等等,打起來非常不順。 ^_^ 這幾天我與 turbolinux [EMAIL PROTECTED] justiny 通 mail, 很抱歉我實在有 [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMdkit support multi-locale [EMAIL PROTECTED] XIM server, 就可以對各種 locale 的 client 輸入,無論如何 xcin 一 [EMAIL PROTECTED]@點能夠突破,那真是千萬之喜 :-)) 至於智能拼音我是不知道,但他有提到他們好像要發展手寫板之類的輸入 法,也是架構在 XIM 上的,聽起來相當有趣 :-)) > [EMAIL PROTECTED]@對了,我從 TLC 那裏「借」了他們的 zh_CN.GBK 來用,雖然說是 > alpha 版, > 但似乎也相當不錯,您們在 CLE 有沒有興趣加個 zh_CN.GBK 的 C 和 X locale > 資料檔?如果您不想麻煩找他們的 .src.rpm,我可以把那些 .src.rpm 裏面相關 > zh_CN.GBK 的檔案放上網頁上。If so, please let me know. ^_^ (I need to > organize them first. :-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] :-)) 還有, X-Window [EMAIL PROTECTED] 有那個 xim client 可以顯示 GBK 內碼的? rxvt 可以嗎? T.H.Hsieh
Re: xcin input method
| |> [EMAIL PROTECTED]@¦³¹D²z¡C ^_^ ¤£ª¾ TurboLinux Chinese ¤T¼C«L¡]¤_©ú»ü¡B¤èº~¡B³¯¦V¶§¡^ |> ªº chinput ¹ï³o¨Ç°ÝÃDªº³B²z¦p¦ó¡HÅ¥»¡¥L̦³´¼¯à«÷µªº¡C¨ä¥L¥\¯à§Ú´N¤£ª¾¹D¤F¡C |> ¥u¬O¥L̪º .cit/.tit Àɸò cxterm ©M Emacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] |> ±Æ§Ç¡A¨S¦³Â²½Xµ¥µ¥¡A¥´°_¨Ó«D±`¤£¶¶¡C ^_^ | |³o´X¤Ñ§Ú»P turbolinux [EMAIL PROTECTED] justiny ³q mail, «Ü©êºp§Ú¹ê¦b¦³ |[EMAIL PROTECTED] IMdkit support multi-locale |[EMAIL PROTECTED] |XIM server, ´N¥i¥H¹ï¦UºØ locale ªº client ¿é¤J¡AµL½×¦p¦ó xcin ¤@ |[EMAIL PROTECTED]@ÂI¯à°÷¬ð¯}¡A¨º¯u¬O¤d¸U¤§³ß :-)) justiny À³¬O¤_¥ý¥Í§a¡C [EMAIL PROTECTED] xim server ´N¯à support ¦hºØ locale, ¤p§Ì»{¬° IMdkit (©ÎÀ³¬O»¡ XIM protocol) ¦n¹³¤w¸g¦³³o¼Ëªº¤ä´©¡C¤p§Ì¼gªº lamerpad¡Ð [EMAIL PROTECTED] xim server (¼È®É¥u¬Oª±²¼©Ê½è), ¥i¦]À³ xim client ªº locale [EMAIL PROTECTED] xim server ¥i¦P®É¹ï kterm, crxvt-big5, crxvt-gb µ¥°µ¿é¤J¡C ¤£ª¾¦³¨S¦³»~¸Ñ©~¤h©Î justiny ªº·N«ä©O? :> p.s. ftp://ftp.debian.org.hk/debian-incoming/lamerpad_0.1.tar.gz -- Anthony Wong. [ E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
Re[2]: xcin input method
Hello thhsieh, Thursday, January 06, 2000, 10:09:13 AM, you wrote: tlot> [EMAIL PROTECTED] :-)) 還有, X-Window [EMAIL PROTECTED] tlot> 有那個 xim client 可以顯示 GBK 內碼的? rxvt 可以嗎? 正確使用 xlocale ,XIM, Fontset or XOM 的程序在有 GBK locale, xlocale 和正確的字型後都可以支持吧﹖不用在 client 端特別改進。 現有的字型可能只有TLC的有GBK 字型吧﹖或者把 MS 的 TTF 直接拿來用。 rxvt 的 CJK 是 hack ﹐可能目前不能很好的支持 GBK ﹐但是 國際化的 GTK+ or Gnome 程序應該都沒問題。 Best regards, hashaomailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xcin input method
On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 10:33:00AM +0800, Anthony Wong wrote: > justiny 應是于先生吧。 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] xim server 就能 support 多種 locale, 小弟認為 IMdkit > (或應是說 XIM protocol) 好像已經有這樣的支援。小弟寫的 lamerpad- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] xim server (暫時只是玩票性質), 可因應 xim client 的 > locale [EMAIL PROTECTED] xim server 可同時對 kterm, > crxvt-big5, crxvt-gb 等做輸入。 > 不知有沒有誤解居士或 justiny 的意思呢? :> > > p.s. ftp://ftp.debian.org.hk/debian-incoming/lamerpad_0.1.tar.gz 正是。能否請問您,來自不同 locale 的 XIM client 的 request, 要如何判斷 它是屬於那個 locale? 謝謝您的回答。我會去抓您的程式回來參考 :-)) T.H.Hsieh
Re: xcin input method
On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 10:43:17AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: |On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 10:33:00AM +0800, Anthony Wong wrote: |> justiny À³¬O¤_¥ý¥Í§a¡C |> |> [EMAIL PROTECTED] xim server ´N¯à support ¦hºØ locale, ¤p§Ì»{¬° IMdkit |> (©ÎÀ³¬O»¡ XIM protocol) ¦n¹³¤w¸g¦³³o¼Ëªº¤ä´©¡C¤p§Ì¼gªº lamerpad¡Ð |> [EMAIL PROTECTED] xim server (¼È®É¥u¬Oª±²¼©Ê½è), ¥i¦]À³ xim client ªº |> locale [EMAIL PROTECTED] xim server ¥i¦P®É¹ï kterm, |> crxvt-big5, crxvt-gb µ¥°µ¿é¤J¡C |> ¤£ª¾¦³¨S¦³»~¸Ñ©~¤h©Î justiny ªº·N«ä©O? :> |> |> p.s. ftp://ftp.debian.org.hk/debian-incoming/lamerpad_0.1.tar.gz | |¥¿¬O¡C¯à§_½Ð°Ý±z¡A¨Ó¦Û¤£¦P locale ªº XIM client ªº request, n¦p¦ó§PÂ_ |¥¦¬OÄÝ©ó¨ºÓ locale? IMOpenStruct structure ¤¤ªº member 'lang' (a XIMStr structure) °O¿ý¤F client ªº locale¡C¥i°Ñ¦Ò³B²z XIM_OPEN ªº¨ç¦¡ XIMOpenHandler¡C ¦Ñ¹ê»¡¦b XIM ªº½dÃ¥§ÚÁÙ¬O·s¤â, ¦³¿ùªº½Ð«ü¥¿¡C ÁÙ¦³¡A©~¤h¼gªº¦³Ãö XIM »¡©ú¤å¥ó¹ï§Ú½s¼gµ{¦¡ªº®ÉÔµ¹¤©¤F«Ü¦hªº«ü¤Þ¡A «D±`·PÁ¡A§_«h¥i¯à²{¦b§ÚÁÙ¦bºN¯Á¤¤ :> -- Anthony Wong. [ E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
Re: xcin input method
¡i ¦b thhsieh. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ¡j : ¥¿¬O¡C¯à§_½Ð°Ý±z¡A¨Ó¦Û¤£¦P locale ªº XIM client ªº request, n¦p¦ó§PÂ_ : ¥¦¬OÄÝ©ó¨ºÓ locale? ¦b IMdkit ¸Ì, ¨CÓ XIM_OPEN request ªº IMOpenStruct [EMAIL PROTECTED] lang.name ªº field, À³¸Ó¥i¥HÀ°¨ì§A :p -- [1;35;40m¡° [33m¨Ó·½ [30m¡À [32me-Fever BBS ¢I bbs.e-fever.dhs.org[30m ¡À [1;35m[[33mFrom: bbs.e-fever.dhs.org[35m][m
xcin and libtabe
Hi all, As xcin in Potato is 2.5.1.3, and libtabe is 0.1-pre8, by refering to the following mail, should we (take the risk) to use the development version of xcin? - Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 10:37:11 +0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: xcin 2.5.4 I think you are using xcin-2.5.1-4. Then you have to install libtabe-0.1-pre5. Please note that you cannot use newer version of libtabe. If you want to use newer version of libtabe, you have to use the under-development xcin found in: ftp://xcin.linux.org.tw/pub/xcin/xcin/devel/ and please get the newest version of xcin. - End forwarded message - -- Anthony Wong. [ E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
zh_HK.Big5 locale
Hello everyone, I have prepared a Hong Kong locale definition. It's available at: http://spacehunt.e-fever.dhs.org/hklocale.tar.gz It contains 3 files, zh_HK, BIG5_HKSCS, XLC_LOCALE. To use them: - make the directory /usr/lib/X11/locale/zh_HK.Big5, copy XLC_LOCALE into that directory, and edit /usr/lib/X11/locale/locale.dir accordingly. - make sure you have i18ndata installed - compile the locale using localdef: localedef -f BIG5_HKSCS -i zh_HK -u mnemonic.ds zh_HK.Big5 - try it by export LANG=zh_HK.Big5 / setenv LANG zh_HK.Big5 etc. The main difference of this from zh_TW.Big5 (apart from NT$ -> HK$ :p), is that the Big5 code range has been extened from 0xA040-0xF9FE to 0x8140-0xFEFE, which includes then ETen range, as well as the Hong Kong GCCS/HKSCS range. Note that this is not enough to be able to use HKSCS: fonts with HKSCS characters are needed; if using xfs-xtt, xfs-xtt also needs to be patched. Even with all that, for some reason, it still doesn't work with GTK... However, since HKSCS itself is still a non-standard extension to Big5, is this a right thing to do? -- [1;35;40m¡° [33m¨Ó·½ [30m¡À [32me-Fever BBS ¢I bbs.e-fever.dhs.org[30m ¡À [1;35m[[33mFrom: bbs.e-fever.dhs.org[35m][m
Re: zh_HK.Big5 locale
Hello ÃiÃiÂy¤H, Thursday, January 06, 2000, 12:21:48 PM, you wrote: Ã> Hello everyone, Ã> I have prepared a Hong Kong locale definition. It's available at: Ã> http://spacehunt.e-fever.dhs.org/hklocale.tar.gz Great to hear that! Ã> Note that this is not enough to be able to use HKSCS: fonts with HKSCS Ã> characters are needed; if using xfs-xtt, xfs-xtt also needs to be patched. Ã> Even with all that, for some reason, it still doesn't work with GTK... I wonder what the license status for the HKSCS reference font. Since it is provided by the Hong Kong SAR government, we have a chance to use it as a free (Freedom) font. Then the font for the extended charset could be extracted and ported to Linux. Maybe there should be a seperated font class for the HKSCS in xlocale, this I am not sure. Ã> However, since HKSCS itself is still a non-standard extension to Big5, Ã> is this a right thing to do? I think it is a good thing. One of our goal is to provide convenient Chinese environment under Linux. A lot of HK users will benefit from this locale right now. Beside, it will not be hard to update to the standard later on. my 2 cents. Best regards, hashaomailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xcin input method
On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 10:58:38AM +0800, Anthony Wong wrote: > IMOpenStruct structure 中的 member 'lang' (a XIMStr structure) 記錄了 > client 的 locale。可參考處理 XIM_OPEN 的函式 XIMOpenHandler。 [EMAIL PROTECTED] :-)) T.H.Hsieh
Re: zh_HK.Big5 locale
On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 02:24:35PM +0800, hashao wrote: > Hello 懶懶獵人, > Thursday, January 06, 2000, 12:21:48 PM, you wrote: > ? Hello everyone, > ? I have prepared a Hong Kong locale definition. It's available at: > ? http://spacehunt.e-fever.dhs.org/hklocale.tar.gz > Great to hear that! [EMAIL PROTECTED]@糟糕,避無可避,今次想偷懶也不行。是時候再包新版的 locale-zh 了。(我可以偷賴幾天嗎? ^_^) [EMAIL PROTECTED]@雖然 new-maintainer 尚未重開,但有興趣作 Debian [EMAIL PROTECTED] 請往下面填寫資料,也許 Anthony Wong 和我可以 "sponsor" 您們。 ^_^ http://www.internatif.org/bortzmeyer/debian/sponsor/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]@(唉,東東,你包了幾天的 .deb [EMAIL PROTECTED] ^_^) 東東 -- Anthony Fok Tung-LingCivil and Environmental Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]University of Alberta, Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Keep smiling! *^_^* Come visit Our Lady of Victory Camp -- http://come.to/olvc
Re: xcin input method
On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 10:36:56AM +0800, hashao wrote: > > rxvt 的 CJK 是 hack ﹐可能目前不能很好的支持 GBK ﹐但是 > 國際化的 GTK+ or Gnome 程序應該都沒問題。 [EMAIL PROTECTED]@so desu ka (??) [EMAIL PROTECTED] X 底下,不知怎的, zh_CN 的 X locale 必須設 use_stdc_envFalse 若為 True,則 GTK+/Gnome 不會顯示 GB 字出來。我上星期用了 CLE 的 *.po -> *.mo 轉了 GB 碼,究竟中文字全不見,原來就是這個 use_stdc_env 在搗蛋。這個 tip 是 chinput 裏的說明的(又要謝謝 TLC 三劍俠), [EMAIL PROTECTED] 有什麼功用?我更不知。 ^_^ 東東 -- Anthony Fok Tung-LingCivil and Environmental Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]University of Alberta, Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Keep smiling! *^_^* Come visit Our Lady of Victory Camp -- http://come.to/olvc
Re: xcin input method
On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 10:09:13AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > 非常感謝! 我發現這年頭要偷懶真的起來越容易了 :-)) 我會參考您的 patch > [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] > 我見到您寄給行列科技的信了 :-)) [EMAIL PROTECTED] :-)) > 真是謝謝 :-)) [...] > 呵呵! 看來我又偷懶成功了! 謝謝您囉 :-)) [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (New Maintainer 快重開吧! 我製 .deb 也有點累了,希望後生可畏,青出於藍而勝於藍,後來居上吧! (哈,可以退休了。 ^_^) > 這個可以列如考慮,但不見得使用 alt-ctrl-?? 鍵,也可能就直接設定在 > xcinrc 裏頭,看是否要開啟聲調模式。 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]@連串 keystroke 的最後那個鍵囉! [EMAIL PROTECTED]@也可以,這樣也比較簡單。 ^_^ > > 不過,有個想法,大可以設個 arbitrary 的 threshold 值,例如 1 MB, > > 如果 xcin 的 tarball 超過 1 MB,就把各個 .cin 檔分出來,只保留其他 > > 最常用的。 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] :-)) > > 如果要弄的話,我可能等到 gen_inp 大修改之後,那時 cin2tab 也會修改, > .cin 的格式會改變,正是抽出來的時機 :-)) [EMAIL PROTECTED]@其實,我希望不抽更好,不過見到 http://input.foruto.com/ 列出數十多種中文輸入法,如果真的都移植上 xcin 來,那就真的非分不可。 快倉六也可支援 xcin 了,不過只有 smartcj6.tab 下載,是對應 xcin2.3 的,因為版權問題不明,所以他們沒有放原 .cin 檔出來。唉…… [EMAIL PROTECTED]@話說回來,自然碼也有自己的網站,似乎不是公開授權的,不知 xcin 裏真的可以放 zhiranma 嗎? (BTW, is it "ziranma" or "zhiranma"?) 抑或使用者自製的對照表,不受限制?(那就 Boshiamy 也可以放進 xcin 裏面?) 不知這些公司是 copyright 了他們自己的 data 還是 copyright/patent 了 他們的輸入法的 "idea"? > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]@有道理。 ^_^ 不知 TurboLinux Chinese > > 三劍俠(于明儉、方漢、陳向陽) > > 的 chinput > > 對這些問題的處理如何?聽說他們有智能拼音的。其他功能我就不知道了。 > > 只是他們的 .cit/.tit 檔跟 cxterm 和 Emacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 排序,沒有簡碼等等,打起來非常不順。 ^_^ > > 這幾天我與 turbolinux [EMAIL PROTECTED] justiny 通 mail, 很抱歉我實在有 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMdkit support multi-locale > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > XIM server, 就可以對各種 locale 的 client 輸入,無論如何 xcin 一 > [EMAIL PROTECTED]@點能夠突破,那真是千萬之喜 :-)) [EMAIL PROTECTED]@讓我想起……雙橋、南極星、加盟等等隨意轉換編碼那個工具箱。 ^_^ 從 ZWinPro 的圖片看到,他們已經有這個功能,也可以隨意轉換字型。 可惜,Anthony Wong 和我下載了回來,但可能包裝錯誤,在 Debian 下使用 不盡成功,畢竟自己的功力實在……太遜了。 ^_^ justiny = yumj = 于明儉 Justin Yu danf (?) = Daniel Fang = 方漢 seanc = Sean Chen = 陳向陽 [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED] ^_^ > 至於智能拼音我是不知道,但他有提到他們好像要發展手寫板之類的輸入 > 法,也是架構在 XIM 上的,聽起來相當有趣 :-)) Kanjipad -> Lamerpad? ;-) 在 Debian 2.2 上有了,相信 Anthony Wong 會有更詳盡的解釋。 ^_^ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] :-)) 還有, X-Window [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 有那個 xim client 可以顯示 GBK 內碼的? rxvt 可以嗎? X Window... 暫時沒有字型,也許要向 TLC 借了。(zh_pcf?) 在 ftp.turbolinux.com.cn [EMAIL PROTECTED] ^_^ 把可以轉換 CMEX 那套,但比較麻煩就是了。 [EMAIL PROTECTED]@zh_CN.GBK 的 C locale 已經安裝在 Debian potato 的 locale-zh_0.9+0.05-1 版了。0.9 來自 CLE, 0.05 來自 TLC. ^_^ 暫時 hashao 的 zh_CN.GB2312 和陳向陽的 zh_CN.GBK [EMAIL PROTECTED] gnomecal 裏會把 Mon Tue 等寫成 一 二 三 等,似乎稍為更中文化。 ^_^ C 那個 locale,我懶找,不寄了, 煩請 apt-get source locale-zh (如果 apt-get 版本夠新),或者 http://debian.midco.net/debian/dists/unstable/main/source/admin/ 或您就近的 FTP site,下載: locale-zh_0.9+0.05.orig.tar.gz locale-zh_0.9+0.05-1.diff.gz locale-zh_0.9+0.05-1.dsc [EMAIL PROTECTED] KB。解開後,zh-localedata-0.9/localedata-zh-0.05/ 目錄裏面的 就是 TLC 所用的 C locales 了,有 GBK 也有 Big5 的呢!不過不是 CLE/glibc2/Debian 那個,還要請您們(東翰兄和小虫兄)研究比較,也許可以跟 [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED] TurboLinux Chinese 可沒有什麼可貢獻,只懂得「偷」他們的 SRPM 來用。 ^_^ [EMAIL PROTECTED]@X 底下的 zh_CN.GBK 還未納入 Debian 的 XFree86 3.3.5 套件中, 我偷賴,未寄 patch 給 Debian XFree86 的大大 Branden 嘛! ^_^ 因為我家中的 modem 慢,所以我「善用」Debian 的設備,把 ftp.turbolinux.com.cn 的 XFree86 SRPM 下載至 xia01.kachinatech.com 和 faure.debian.org, 再用 alien -g 拆開來,取了 patch 的部份回來,放進 xfree86-3.3.5-Gem_TLC.tar.gz(Gem,玫寶也,「執到寶」嘛!) ^_^ 檔案 80 多 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]@如果其他 debian-chinese [EMAIL PROTECTED]|樂意 轉寄給您的,那就不用去 ftp.turbolinux.com.cn 下載 40多 MB 回來了。 ^_^ 東東 -- Anthony Fok Tung-LingCivil and Environmental Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]University of Alberta, Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Keep smiling! *^_^* Come visit Our Lady of Victory Camp -- http://come.to/olvc
Re: xcin and libtabe
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@已經上傳了!噢,我只給 Shao Zhang 回了信,沒有在這裏回報。 ^_^ 以下是新版的 changelog.Debian: xcin (2.5.1.4-2103-1) unstable; urgency=low * New upstream release: xcin-2.5-2103, which comes after xcin-2.5.1-4. * [debian/control]: - Depends on locale-zh. Thanks to suggestion from Shao Zhang! - Revised font dependencies. * [src/Cinput/gen_inp/gen_inp.[ch]]: Added hack to improve Array30. (I know, I am *so* selfish. :-) * [/etc/xcinrc]: Added settings for all the zh_CN.GB2312 input methods. If you think the order of the hotkeys are non-standard, please tell me. * Added a symlink "pinyin_b5" to "pinyin" to temporary avoid namespace conflict. Thanks to Shao Zhang and Tung-Han Hsieh for advice. :-) * Added some quick-and-dirty example scripts such as et24 and gb24 which I use personally to start up xcin-2.5 and rxvt-2.6. Feel free to adapt them to your needs. :-) Note that eventually I would like to consolidate them to one or two scripts instead of the many that I have now. :-) (Added this paragraph to README.Debian too.) -- Anthony Fok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wed, 5 Jan 2000 16:56:28 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED]@配合 libtabe 0.1-pre8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 都打得很順啊!(各個=行列30) ^_^ 咦,為什麼想用 alt-ctrl-6 時 xcin: 警告: bimsphone: TSI_FNAME: cannot open data file: /usr/share/tabe/tsi.db xcin: 警告: 無法載入輸入法: bimsphone, 略過。 [EMAIL PROTECTED]@呀呀呀!我在 /etc/xcinrc 設錯了路徑!!!又要再 upload。 我不依!嗚嗚~~~ ^_^ [EMAIL PROTECTED]@啊,改了 xcinrc [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ^_^ On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 11:36:18AM +0800, Anthony Wong wrote: > Hi all, > > As xcin in Potato is 2.5.1.3, and libtabe is 0.1-pre8, by > refering to the following mail, should we (take the risk) to use the > development version of xcin? > > - Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 10:37:11 +0800 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: xcin 2.5.4 > > I think you are using xcin-2.5.1-4. Then you have to install > libtabe-0.1-pre5. Please note that you cannot use newer version > of libtabe. If you want to use newer version of libtabe, you > have to use the under-development xcin found in: > > ftp://xcin.linux.org.tw/pub/xcin/xcin/devel/ > > and please get the newest version of xcin. > > - End forwarded message - > > -- > Anthony Wong. [ E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] -- Anthony Fok Tung-LingCivil and Environmental Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]University of Alberta, Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Keep smiling! *^_^* Come visit Our Lady of Victory Camp -- http://come.to/olvc
Re: zh_HK.Big5 locale
Hi hashao, ¡i ¦b [EMAIL PROTECTED] (hashao) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ¡j : Ã> Note that this is not enough to be able to use HKSCS: fonts with HKSCS : Ã> characters are needed; if using xfs-xtt, xfs-xtt also needs to be patched. : Ã> Even with all that, for some reason, it still doesn't work with GTK... I just found out this afternoon that GTK calls XmbTextListToTextProperty, which in turn uses glibc2.1's iconv(), so therefore the Big5 module in gconv-modules needs to be modified as well ... : I wonder what the license status for the HKSCS reference font. Since : it is provided by the Hong Kong SAR government, we have a chance to : use it as a free (Freedom) font. >From http://www.digital21.gov.hk/chi/hkscs/download.html: > ¯S°Ï¬F©²¤£«OÃÒ³o³n¥ó©ÎÀɮצb¨ä¥Î³~¥H¥~ªº¥\¯à¡Bªí²{ > ©M¹ï¬Y¯S©w¥Øªºªº¾A¥Î©Ê¡C°£ªk¨Òn¨D¥~¡A¥ç¤£¹ï¦]¨Ï¥Î > ©Î¤£¯à¨Ï¥Î³o³n¥ó©Ò±a¨Óªº¥ô¦ó·l®`©M·l¥¢t¤W³d¥ô¡C That was all I could find. It's not very clear whether it's free... : Then the font for the extended : charset could be extracted and ported to Linux. Maybe there should be : a seperated font class for the HKSCS in xlocale, this I am not sure. Yes, the .TTE font provided by the SAR Government can be extracted as a bitmap font, or it can be used directly as a normal TrueType font. To be able to do that though, HKSCS should be defined as a separate font class, and xfs-xtt needs to be modified too.. : Ã> However, since HKSCS itself is still a non-standard extension to Big5, : Ã> is this a right thing to do? : I think it is a good thing. One of our goal is to provide convenient : Chinese environment under Linux. A lot of HK users will benefit : from this locale right now. Beside, it will not be hard to : update to the standard later on. That's true, all the data in the locale definition files were generated by a few simple scripts :p Cheers, spacehunt -- [1;35;40m¡° [33m¨Ó·½ [30m¡À [32me-Fever BBS ¢I bbs.e-fever.dhs.org[30m ¡À [1;35m[[33mFrom: 185_1user171.ctimail[35m][m
Re: zh_HK.Big5 locale
On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 04:21:48AM +, 懶懶獵人 wrote: > However, since HKSCS itself is still a non-standard extension to Big5, > is this a right thing to do? [EMAIL PROTECTED]@那個爛 Big5,本來就不是什麼標準,而 Big5+ 又不知怎的沒有人用, Big5e 不知命運如何。至少 HKSCS 全港人仕都樂意採用,所了增加了 HKSCS 支援當然是好事。目前的問題和挑戰,就是:將來的 Unicode 3.0 或新版 用有這些字嗎? zh_??.Big5* 仍暫時之計,長遠還是希望用 Unicode。 Big5 有這麼多種 varieties, BIG5toUCS 這類的轉碼表,我也不知道哪個才 算正統了。(Unihan 裏的 Big5 沒有任何倚天字或其他延伸碼,我又不服。 ^_^) 不理啦,希望香港的語言及編碼專家能積極把香港字集放進 Unicode 就是了, 否則 HKSCS 裏的字會變孤兒…… 東東 -- Anthony Fok Tung-LingCivil and Environmental Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]University of Alberta, Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Keep smiling! *^_^* Come visit Our Lady of Victory Camp -- http://come.to/olvc
Re: zh_HK.Big5 locale
¡i ¦b [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony Fok) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ¡j : On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 02:24:35PM +0800, hashao wrote: : > Hello ÃiÃiÂy¤H, : > Thursday, January 06, 2000, 12:21:48 PM, you wrote: : > Ã> Hello everyone, : > Ã> I have prepared a Hong Kong locale definition. It's available at: : > Ã> http://spacehunt.e-fever.dhs.org/hklocale.tar.gz : > Great to hear that! : [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ÁV¿|¡AÁ×µL¥iÁסA¤µ¦¸·Q°½Ãi¤]¤£¦æ¡C¬O®ÉÔ¦A¥]·sª©ªº locale-zh : ¤F¡C¡]§Ú¥i¥H°½¿à´X¤Ñ¶Ü¡H ^_^¡^ ¨º»ò§Ö´N®³¥h¥] .deb? §ÚÁÙ¨S½T©w¬O§_¦³¿ùªº³á! oh, ¹ï¤F: XLC_LOCALE ¸Ì ct_conversion ¨º¦æªº 9efe À³¸Ó¬O 7efe :p : [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ÁöµM new-maintainer ©|¥¼«¶}¡A¦ý¦³¿³½ì§@ Debian [EMAIL PROTECTED] : ½Ð©¹¤U±¶ñ¼g¸ê®Æ¡A¤]³\ Anthony Wong ©M§Ú¥i¥H "sponsor" ±zÌ¡C ^_^ : http://www.internatif.org/bortzmeyer/debian/sponsor/ Åý§Ú¥h¬Ý¬Ý.. :p -- [1;35;40m¡° [33m¨Ó·½ [30m¡À [32me-Fever BBS ¢I bbs.e-fever.dhs.org[30m ¡À [1;35m[[33mFrom: 185_1user171.ctimail[35m][m
Re: zh_HK.Big5 locale
On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 01:08:36PM +, ÃiÃiÂy¤H wrote: |Hi hashao, | |¡i ¦b [EMAIL PROTECTED] (hashao) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ¡j |: Ã> Note that this is not enough to be able to use HKSCS: fonts with HKSCS |: Ã> characters are needed; if using xfs-xtt, xfs-xtt also needs to be patched. |: Ã> Even with all that, for some reason, it still doesn't work with GTK... | |I just found out this afternoon that GTK calls XmbTextListToTextProperty, |which in turn uses glibc2.1's iconv(), so therefore the Big5 module in |gconv-modules needs to be modified as well ... Oh... what happens if the version of glibc is < 2.1 ? Besides, it's really a good idea if we can start to extend the Big5 module in glibc's gconv to include all the HKSCS chars. -- Anthony Wong. [ E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
Re: zh_HK.Big5 locale
¡i ¦b [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony Fok) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ¡j : On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 04:21:48AM +, ÃiÃiÂy¤H wrote: : > However, since HKSCS itself is still a non-standard extension to Big5, : > is this a right thing to do? : [EMAIL PROTECTED]@¨ºÓÄê Big5¡A¥»¨Ó´N¤£¬O¤°»ò¼Ð·Ç¡A¦Ó Big5+ ¤S¤£ª¾«çªº¨S¦³¤H¥Î¡A : Big5e ¤£ª¾©R¹B¦p¦ó¡C¦Ü¤Ö HKSCS ¥þ´ä¤H¥K³£¼Ö·N±Ä¥Î¡A©Ò¤F¼W¥[¤F HKSCS : ¤ä´©·íµM¬O¦n¨Æ¡C¥Ø«eªº°ÝÃD©M¬D¾Ô¡A´N¬O¡G±N¨Óªº Unicode 3.0 ©Î·sª© : ¥Î¦³³o¨Ç¦r¶Ü¡H zh_??.Big5* ¤´¼È®É¤§p¡Aªø»·ÁÙ¬O§Æ±æ¥Î Unicode¡C : Big5 ¦³³o»ò¦hºØ varieties¡A BIG5toUCS ³oÃþªºÂà½Xªí¡A§Ú¤]¤£ª¾¹DþÓ¤~ : ºâ¥¿²Î¤F¡C¡]Unihan ùتº Big5 ¨S¦³¥ô¦óʤѦr©Î¨ä¥L©µ¦ù½X¡A§Ú¤S¤£ªA¡C ^_^¡^ *sigh* ³o´X¤Ñ§Ú¦b¤½¥q¹ïµÛ¦n´XÓ¤£¦Pªº Big5 table .. ¦³ Unicode ªº, ¦³ X ªº, ¦³ M$ ªº, ÁÙ¦³¤½¥q¥»¨ªº.. +_+ : ¤£²z°Õ¡A§Æ±æ»´äªº»y¨¥¤Î½s½X±M®a¯à¿n·¥§â»´ä¦r¶°©ñ¶i Unicode ´N¬O¤F¡A : §_«h HKSCS ùتº¦r·|ÅÜ©t¨à¡K¡K Digital21 ¨ºÓ ISO 10646 table .. ¤£ª¾¬O§_¯uªº¬O ISO standard.. -- [1;35;40m¡° [33m¨Ó·½ [30m¡À [32me-Fever BBS ¢I bbs.e-fever.dhs.org[30m ¡À [1;35m[[33mFrom: 185_1user171.ctimail[35m][m
Re: zh_HK.Big5 locale
¡i ¦b [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony Wong) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ¡j : On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 01:08:36PM +, ÃiÃiÂy¤H wrote: : |Hi hashao, : | : |I just found out this afternoon that GTK calls XmbTextListToTextProperty, : |which in turn uses glibc2.1's iconv(), so therefore the Big5 module in : |gconv-modules needs to be modified as well ... : Oh... what happens if the version of glibc is < 2.1 ? This I'm not entirely sure .. but since too many things in potato are linked against glibc 2.1 already (X, xfs-xtt, GTK, ...), I can't try it.. : Besides, it's really a good idea if we can start to extend the Big5 : module in glibc's gconv to include all the HKSCS chars. I've briefly looked at gconv's source before I left the office today .. it's not a simple array like in xfs-xtt :P But it shouldn't be too hard. I'll try it tomorrow. -- [1;35;40m¡° [33m¨Ó·½ [30m¡À [32me-Fever BBS ¢I bbs.e-fever.dhs.org[30m ¡À [1;35m[[33mFrom: 185_1user171.ctimail[35m][m
Re: xcin input method
> ³o´X¤Ñ§Ú»P turbolinux [EMAIL PROTECTED] justiny ³q mail, «Ü©êºp§Ú¹ê¦b¦³ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMdkit support multi-locale > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > XIM server, ´N¥i¥H¹ï¦UºØ locale ªº client ¿é¤J¡AµL½×¦p¦ó xcin ¤@ > [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ÂI¯à°÷¬ð¯}¡A¨º¯u¬O¤d¸U¤§³ß :-)) ¤_©ú»ü
About MD5 System Passwd Encryption
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Re: About MD5 System Passwd Encryption
On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 04:03:28PM +, ¡¸ SPIRIT ¡¹ wrote: |½Ð°Ý Debian ¯à§_¨Ï¥Î MD5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] System password ªº½s½X¤è¦¡¡H ¥i¥H¡CSlink ¤£²M·¡¡A¦ý potato ¬O¥i¥Hªº¡C -- Anthony Wong.
Re: xcin input method
¡i ¦b [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony Wong) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ¡j : [EMAIL PROTECTED] xim server ´N¯à support ¦hºØ locale, ¤p§Ì»{¬° IMdkit : (©ÎÀ³¬O»¡ XIM protocol) ¦n¹³¤w¸g¦³³o¼Ëªº¤ä´©¡C¤p§Ì¼gªº lamerpad¡Ð : [EMAIL PROTECTED] xim server (¼È®É¥u¬Oª±²¼©Ê½è), ¥i¦]À³ xim client ªº : locale [EMAIL PROTECTED] xim server ¥i¦P®É¹ï kterm, : crxvt-big5, crxvt-gb µ¥°µ¿é¤J¡C : ¤£ª¾¦³¨S¦³»~¸Ñ©~¤h©Î justiny ªº·N«ä©O? :> : p.s. ftp://ftp.debian.org.hk/debian-incoming/lamerpad_0.1.tar.gz ¶â§Ñ°O¤F»¡, debian package ¦b ftp://ftp.debian.org.hk/debian-incoming/lamerpad_0.1_i386.deb :> Anthony Wong -- [1;35;40m¡° [33m¨Ó·½ [30m¡À [32me-Fever BBS ¢I bbs.e-fever.dhs.org[30m ¡À [1;35m[[33mFrom: localhost[35m][m