Re: my user on my box!

[Marcus Brinkmann]

On Sun, Dec 28, 1997 at 10:14:43AM -0800, Jon Björklund wrote:
> Hi there guys!
> 
> I am using Debian 1.3.1 and finds it a perfekt linuxdistribution.
> But there is one _very_ BiG problem in all unices I have tested,
> and that is the users and root.
> What I want is to get my user named ceed to be as powerful as root but
> at the same time it shouldn't be root. Is there a way of fixing this??
> And I do not want to go around su:ing all my day.

As other mentioned on this list, this is no problem or bug, but a feature.
Their should be absolutly no reason to have root access all the time (do you
know one?)

I assume you have a stand alone machine, and you are the only user. Then I
would recommend you to keep the first console for root. Then you can login
as ceed on other consoles, and switch back to your root console via ALT-F1.

This is what I do, and you will experience, that you don't need too much
root access.

If you want to give ceed access to floppy, cd, sound and other, add "ceed"
at the end of the appropriate lines in your /etc/group file. This file
controls the access for common files and devices.

> And finally can you pleaze give me a small description of what each
> user in the original /etc/passwd is!

This "users" are no real users, this means, you can't login as, for example
"news" (they have an asterisk * as password). They are for system
maintenance, and special system programs, as daemons, can run as "news", for
example, so they don't have to run as root for special tasks (the news
daemon only needs access to news specific files, and not to the usr
directory, for example).

This somewhat complicated mechanism does protect the system against you and
you against the system ;)

Thank you,
Marcus

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Re: Re^2: intent to package: doom!

[Manoj Srivastava]

Hi,
>>"Marco" == Marco Budde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Marco> Am 27.12.97 schrieb joey # kitenet.net ...

Marco> Moin Joey!

JH> Good grief. Well, it's already in non-free, I guess that's good
JH> enough (since stuff in non-free cannot be safely distributed
JH> unless you examine it's license).

Marco> But non-free is mirrored on several FTP servers in Germany. And
Marco> a child could download the games from a German FTP server and
Marco> this is not allowed.

True enough. Also, we can't just take the non-us packages and
 stuff them in non-free either; I think non-us and non-duetch are more
 similar than not.

Marco> Maybe we need a special flag in the control files to stopp
Marco> distribution of a program in some countries.

Umm, no, since then I could not get non-us software from the
 non-us sites (and legitimate german users could not download from,
 say, uk). No mirror program actually looks at the control file, so
 you don't mean just the mirror sites.

manoj

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Re: Uploaded wwwoffle 2.0-1 (source i386) to chiark

[Yann Dirson]

Federico Di Gregorio writes:
 >* Added cron job to purge wwwoffle cache.

Isn't it automatically handled by wwwoffled ?  There is a "Purge"
section in /etc/wwwoffle.conf (v1.3) that seem to indicate there's an
internal mecahnism for this.

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Re^2: intent to package: doom!

[Marco Budde]

Am 27.12.97 schrieb joey # kitenet.net ...

Moin Joey!

JH> Good grief. Well, it's already in non-free, I guess that's good enough
JH> (since stuff in non-free cannot be safely distributed unless you examine
JH> it's license).

But non-free is mirrored on several FTP servers in Germany. And a child  
could download the games from a German FTP server and this is not allowed.

Maybe we need a special flag in the control files to stopp distribution of  
a program in some countries.

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ftplib package

[Hani Saliba]

Hello,

After looking at the WNPP document, and getting some advice from people on
the mailing list I ask to adopt/maintain a relatively simpler pakage: the
ftplib package (it's a package that, roughly, encapsulates ftp commands
inside C functions). I haven't examined the package throughly yet, and will
email the mailing list with a more detailed plan later.

Does anybody have any objections? Any suggestions? Any information about
pending updates? Any bugs?

I hope that my first experience with "debianizing" will be a good one and I
apreciate any hints I can get,
Hani


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Re: Libc6 progress: 1997-12-28

[Christian Leutloff]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Braakman) writes:

> Alan Bain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>   f2c-960717-0 (Old source format)

isn't this obsoleted by the f77 frontend to gcc!?

Bye
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I'm planning to package the anti spamming SMTP frontend from www.obtuse.com.

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Re: Libc6 progress for contrib and non-free (Dec 1997)

[Yann Dirson]

Richard Braakman writes:
 >   non-free: xforms0.86-0.86-2

xmysql (contrib) is not listed, but depends on both libc6 and
xforms0.86.

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Re: debian-kbd needs M4 hacker

[Yann Dirson]

Marco d'Itri writes:
 > The debian-kbd list needs some help from an experienced M4 guru.
 > I wrote the macros to generate keyboard tables, but some of them do not
 > work. We need someone to debug them, otherwise we can't progress.
 > The macro set is about 150 lines.

I'm not really a guru, but I had the opportunity of writing some M4
macros to work with autoconf.

I may help, if you wish.

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Re: my user on my box!

[AzCaPpY]

Not to mention it is EXTREMELY dangerous to your system since root can
wipe out your system. Root cannot log in remotely due to security
restraints... but if you give normal usernames root capabilities... they
can log in remote thus creating a security breach. It is better to leave
root and the normal user separate.

Keith


On Sun, 28 Dec 1997, Will Lowe wrote:

> On Sun, 28 Dec 1997, Jon Björklund wrote:
> 
> > What I want is to get my user named ceed to be as powerful as root but
> > at the same time it shouldn't be root. Is there a way of fixing this??
> Well,  you can use sudo,  which lets normal users to superuser tasks.
> 
> > And I do not want to go around su:ing all my day.
> Really,  except for setting up the system and maintaining things,  you
> shouldn't have to be root all the time,  except to shutdown the system...
> 
> 
>   Will
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Re: my user on my box!

[Will Lowe]

On Sun, 28 Dec 1997, Jon Björklund wrote:

> What I want is to get my user named ceed to be as powerful as root but
> at the same time it shouldn't be root. Is there a way of fixing this??
Well,  you can use sudo,  which lets normal users to superuser tasks.

> And I do not want to go around su:ing all my day.
Really,  except for setting up the system and maintaining things,  you
shouldn't have to be root all the time,  except to shutdown the system...


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my user on my box!

[Jon Björklund]

Hi there guys!

I am using Debian 1.3.1 and finds it a perfekt linuxdistribution.
But there is one _very_ BiG problem in all unices I have tested,
and that is the users and root.
What I want is to get my user named ceed to be as powerful as root but
at the same time it shouldn't be root. Is there a way of fixing this??
And I do not want to go around su:ing all my day.
And I don't want to run as my user and have an xterm su:ed to root.
And finally can you pleaze give me a small description of what each
user in the original /etc/passwd is!
Thanks!
Please mail me!
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Re: su and init scripts

[Miquel van Smoorenburg]

According to Meskes, Michael:
> Hmm, I should have mentioned that I use secure-su not GNU su. Could it
> be you use GNU's version?

Yep, standard GNU su

> Then I guess it's a bug in secure-su.

Time to file a bugreport..

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Libc6 progress: 1997-12-28

[Richard Braakman]

This is a list of packages in the main distribution that need work to
be fully libc6-based.  I base it on the Packages file at my local mirror,
so it may be a day or two out of date.  If you have questions about why
a particular package is on the list, or if you think there is an error,
don't hesitate to contact me.

There are now 105 packages in the list.

Packages cfengine, dome, exuberant-ctags, ncpfs, pax, radiusd-merit,
rosegarden, samba, scm, spider, umsdos, wml, and xmp have been upgraded.

The compface library has been straightened out, but now the compface
package depends on libcompface1 rather than libcompfaceg1.

I have merged in the changes from the new WNPP list.
There is a new version of smail again, still compiled with libc5.
Gregor Hoffleit is working on the python packages. 

Alan Bain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  f2c-960717-0 (Old source format)

Heiko Schlittermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  wu-ftpd-2.4-27
  sliphangup-1.4-1(extra)
  wu-ftpd-academ-2.4.2.13-0

Martin Soto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  wxwin-ol-dev-1.66B-1
  wxwin-ol-runtime-1.66B-1
  wxwin-dev-1.66B-1
  wxwin-ol1-1.66B-1

Soenke Lange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  smail-3.2.0.92-2(important) (New versions are still libc5)

Johnie Ingram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  libfcgi1-1.5.1-1
  php-2.0b10-5(extra)

Igor Grobman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  grmonitor-0.53-2 (Difficult)

joost witteveen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  nfsroot-0.5
  axe-6.1.2-6  (Listed as "Needing a new maintainer")
  wm2-3-2  (Listed as "Needing a new maintainer")
  pstoedit-2.60-1  (Listed as "Needing a new maintainer")

Yoshiaki Yanagihara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  kterm-6.2.0-5

Stephan Alexander Suerken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  gom-x-0.29.10-1  (Mixed dependencies)

Lawrence Chim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  cqcam-0.40b-2(extra) (Being worked on)
  vic-cqcam-2.8-2(extra) (Being worked on)

David H. Munro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  yorick-gist-1.4-5(New version is still libc5)
  yorick-1.4-5 (New version is still libc5)

Neil A. Rubin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  wmaker-0.6.3-1   (Mixed dependencies)
  afterstep-1.0-5  (Mixed dependencies)

Christian Meder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  amanda-client-2.3.0.4-2
  amanda-2.3.0.4-2

Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  imap-4-4-4

Paul Seelig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  psutils-1.17-1   (Will be taken by Rob Browning)

Peter Tobias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  enscript-1.5.0-3 (Upgrade in Incoming)

Karl Sackett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  libtclobjc1-1.1b6-1
  blt-2.1-5(Probably obsolete)
  mesa2-widgets-2.2-2  (Obsolete)
  blt2-2.1-6

Sue Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  lapack-2.0.1-1

Christoph Lameter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  omirr-0.3-1  (Difficult)

Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  xcdroast-0.96-1  (Waiting for upstream version)

Christian Hudon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  icont-9.1-1
  iconx-9.1-1
  iconc-9.1-1

Craig Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  ax25-utils-2.1.37a-1(extra)

Enrique Zanardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  povray-3.0.10-2  (Upgrade in Incoming, moves to non-free)

Eduardo Marcel Macan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  chord-3.6.1-1

Billy C.-M. Chow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  p3nfs-5.1-2(extra)

Patrick J. Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  bitchx-bin-0.70-2

Brian White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  gnats-tk-3.104-1

Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  super-3.10.6-3
  mdutils-0.35-5(extra) (Adam Heath has a new version ready)
  dbview-1.0.3-3

Tom Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  e2compr-1.06-2(extra) (Difficult; awaiting consensus)
  iproute-961225-2(extra) (Difficult; being worked on)

Hakan Ardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  compface-1989.11.11-12 (Mixed dependencies)
  xfaces-3.3-9 (Depends on both xlib6 and xlib6g)

Radu Duta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  xosview-1.5.0-1

Sven Rudolph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  cti-ifhp-2.1.8-1

Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  pacman-10-4  (Compiles with libc6, but segfaults on execution)

Fabien Ninoles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  vrweb-1.3-1

"Boris D. Beletsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  xinetd-2.1.7-3(extra)

Chris Fearnley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  radiusd-livingston-1.16-2

John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  modemu-0.0.1-1
  perl-curses-1.01-1
  bulkmail-1.6-2

James LewisMoss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  xemacs20-20.2-4  (Mixed dependencies)
  xemacs19-19.16-1 (Mixed dependencies)

Philippe Troin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  perlmagick-1.15-2
  imagemagick-3.9.0-1
  libhdf4g-dev-4.0.2-4 (Depends on libhdf4)

(orphan):
  ratfor77-1.0-3   (Old source format)
  dld-3.2.6(Old source format)
  objpak-dev-1.1.1-1
  objpak1-1.1.1-1
  xmailtool-3.1.2b-1
  ftnchek-2.9.4-1
  vgrind-5.7-10
  groupkit-3.2-1
  tkdiff-1.0p-1(Upgrade in Incoming, moves to non-free)
  saoimage-1.19-4  (Mixed dependencies)
  xspread-3.1.1c-1
  gettyps-2.0.7i-1(extra)
  xega-3.2-1   (No source)

Klee Dienes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  ilu-base-2.0.0.8-2
  python-misc-1.4.0-4
  libpam-util-0.56-2   (Upgrade in Incoming)
  netatalk-1.4b2-4(extra)
  python-tk-1.4.0-4
  python-net

Re: next release ?

[Marcus Brinkmann]

On Sun, Dec 28, 1997 at 02:08:00AM -0300, Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote:
> > when will be the next release ?
> 
>  I think that no less than 2 months.
> 
>  But.. you may install hamm now from ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/hamm/hamm/!
> 
>  It's fairly stable for general use.

Be sure to read the howto

http://www.gate.net/~storm/FAQ/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.html

before!

thank you,
Marcus
who is "up dp hamm" for quite a few weeks now (GIMP is cool!)

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xcdroast 0.96d beta 2 packages

[Wichert Akkerman]

I've put together an experimental package for xcdroast 0.96d beta 2.
This adds support for a lot more writers since it uses cdrecord now.
It should fix a lot of other bugs too. So far it has been tested on
a Philips CDD 2600 and a Yamaha 400 without any problems.

There is on catch though: you need a recompiled tix41 since the current
package has no proper tcl/tk 8 support. Until Philippe Troin uploads
a new package I've put a new package on my homepage.

If anyone wants to try it (please do so!), you can find both at
http://wiwww.wi.leidenuniv.nl/~wichert/debian/ . I would appreciate
any success or failure report for this one since the upstream author
is very anxious to fix the last bugs before going on to multisession
support.

Wichert.

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 << Message: Untitled Attachment >>  << Message: tk 8.0 >>  << Message: Re: 
Non-maintainer release of python-1.5 appreciated ? >>  << Message: Re: ldconfig 
warnings >>  << Message: exim or procmail bug? >>  << Message: Re: slib and 
Debian ? >>  << Message: Re: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender 
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intent to package: doom! >>  << Message: Re: tk 8.0 >>  << Message: RE: su and 
init scripts >>  << Message: Re: su and init scripts >>  << Message: Wanted: 
volunteer to test amd and findutils >>  << Message: Re: slib and Debian ? >>  
<< Message: Re: WNPP: working on xmbdfed >>  << Message: Re: slib and Debian ? 
>>  << Message: next release ? >>  << Message: Re: next release ? >>  << 
Message: What's Debian's /usr/src policy. >> 
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Re: What's Debian's /usr/src policy.

[Manoj Srivastava]

Hi,
>>"Rob" == Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Rob> The question is, "who owns /usr/src, Debian or the local
Rob> sysadmin?"

Rob> A recent run-in with the latest pre-release libc6 packages made
Rob> me realize that I hadn't fully considered the role of /usr/src on
Rob> a Debian system.

The vendor, I think. kernel-header-x.xx and kernel-source
 packages have always assumed ownership of /usr/src; this is not a new
 libc6 thing.

Rob> In general, I had always considered Debian as "owning" everything
Rob> outside /usr/local, /usr/src, and /home.  By "owning" I mean that
Rob> I if I did anything fancy in the regions that belong to Debian, I
Rob> should expect that work might get clobbered later by new Debian
Rob> packages, or updates to existing packages.

I think /usr/local and /home are indeed exempt.

Rob> Unfortunately, kernel-headers, which I had to install for the
Rob> first time because of a dependency from the upcoming libc6-dev
Rob> package, clobbered my existing *local* kernel source tree headers
Rob> by writing to /usr/src/linux which was already a link I had
Rob> created to /usr/src/linux-2.1.73.

I find this hard to believe. kernel-headers and kernel-source
 packages write to the directories kernel-headers-X.X.XX and
 kernel-source-X.X.XX. They create symbolic links /usr/src/linux and
 /usr/src/linux-X.X.Xx. 

They most certainly do not clobber existing local headers in
 /usr/src/linux!!

Rob> kernel-headers is not the only package claiming space in /usr/src
Rob> that might conflict with current practices; pcmcia-source does as
Rob> well.

Current [ractices, as far as debian is concerned, is that
 debian owns /usr/src. This has been the case since April 1996 (that's
 1.75 years now!) 

Rob> I really only see two possible choices.

Rob> 1) Flatly state /usr/src/ is owned by Debian.  I.e. it is no
Rob> safer to put anything there than in /bin.  If you want to put
Rob> something in /usr/src/ (because you're building kernels with
Rob> kernel-package or whatever), you should use /usr/local/src/
Rob> instead.  This policy, if adopted, will have to be *heavily*
Rob> advertised.

I think this is the case. This is not new, (21 months is old
 in the Debian world); but I do agree this needs to be better
 advertized. 

manoj

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Re: What's Debian's /usr/src policy.

[Karl M. Hegbloom]

 Along with this, in the similar thread, I think we should set aside a
 place in our "/usr/src/" for the building of Debian packages, using
 `cvs-buildpackage'.  (which I promise to _try_ and grok this week.)

 How about... "/usr/src/debian/{build,work}"?

 It would be good to put into policy a naming convention for CVS tags,
 as well, perhaps.

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Re: Emacs20 and mail file locking.

[Karl M. Hegbloom]

> "Rob" == Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Rob> Assuming you're right, and movemail is used for all mail
Rob> locking, then if we patch movemail to use liblockfile, we
Rob> should be fine.

 I volunteer to try rolling those patches into XEmacs 20.5.  I think
 that configure ought to detect `liblockfile' and compile `movemail'
 accordingly.  Sound right?

Rob> I'm under the impression that liblockfile handles everything,
Rob> including nfs.  I believe libnfslock is transitional, for use
Rob> until everything's migrated to liblockfile.

 Yes, that seems right... I looked them over once a few months ago.  I
 think after I've finished reading the two W. Richard Stevens Unix
 programming books I've just begun, I will go over them again with
 better understanding, and thus, better recollection.


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Re: What's Debian's /usr/src policy.

[bhmit1]

On 26 Dec 1997, Rob Browning wrote:

> The question is, "who owns /usr/src, Debian or the local sysadmin?"

I'm not the official word on this but I think Debian "owns" everything but
/usr/local (in which it can only make a directory).  There are exceptions
if your directory isn't in the file system standard (don't remember the
correct abreviation).  However, I recently saw a nice behaviour from a
Sun.  Before clobbering a file that Sun didn't "own" (in another package),
it prompted me on what it was about to do, by asking if I wanted to
clobber them.  This would be a nice addition in dpkg/deity.

Thanks,
Brandon

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Re: Emacs20 and mail file locking.

[Rob Browning]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom) writes:

>  I don't think that the dot locking done by `movemail' is nfs-aware.
>  You'd need to use libnfslock for that, I guess, or patch `movemail'.

Assuming you're right, and movemail is used for all mail locking, then
if we patch movemail to use liblockfile, we should be fine.

I'm under the impression that liblockfile handles everything,
including nfs.  I believe libnfslock is transitional, for use until
everything's migrated to liblockfile.

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What's Debian's /usr/src policy.

[Rob Browning]

The question is, "who owns /usr/src, Debian or the local sysadmin?"

A recent run-in with the latest pre-release libc6 packages made me
realize that I hadn't fully considered the role of /usr/src on a
Debian system.

In general, I had always considered Debian as "owning" everything
outside /usr/local, /usr/src, and /home.  By "owning" I mean that I if
I did anything fancy in the regions that belong to Debian, I should
expect that work might get clobbered later by new Debian packages, or
updates to existing packages.

Unfortunately, kernel-headers, which I had to install for the first
time because of a dependency from the upcoming libc6-dev package,
clobbered my existing *local* kernel source tree headers by writing to
/usr/src/linux which was already a link I had created to
/usr/src/linux-2.1.73.  kernel-headers is not the only package
claiming space in /usr/src that might conflict with current practices;
pcmcia-source does as well.

I really only see two possible choices.

1) Flatly state /usr/src/ is owned by Debian.  I.e. it is no safer to
put anything there than in /bin.  If you want to put something in
/usr/src/ (because you're building kernels with kernel-package or
whatever), you should use /usr/local/src/ instead.  This policy, if
adopted, will have to be *heavily* advertised.

2) Try to accomodate user files in /usr/src.  This would cause the
least conflict with all the existing kernel/PCMCIA HOWTO's, etc about
where things you unpack should go, but having user files in /usr/src
would probably make it nearly impossible to write "safe"
{pre,post}{inst,rm} scripts for the relevant packages.  (Note that the
"bug" that got me was in the kernel-header's postinst where it assumes
that if /usr/src/linux is a link, then it is safe to unpack there.)

I'm not sure what the right answer is, but I think we need to consider
the problem before the new libc6-dev gets released from the
experimental stages, and we certainly need a long-term policy.

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Re: next release ?

[Nicolás Lichtmaier]

> when will be the next release ?

 I think that no less than 2 months.

 But.. you may install hamm now from ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/hamm/hamm/!

 It's fairly stable for general use.


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next release ?

[LordVaXen]

when will be the next release ?


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Re: slib and Debian ?

[Karl M. Hegbloom]

> "Jim" == Jim Pick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Jim> Here's a possible slibconfig script with support for Guile in
Jim> it:

 I think you forgot to make the symlink:

 ln -s /usr/lib/slib /usr/share/guile/


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Re: WNPP: working on xmbdfed

[Anthony Fok]

On 26 Dec 1997, Frederic Lepied wrote:

> I'm working on xmbdfed which is a powerfull  X11 font editor. It works
> with lesstif.

[snip]

> PS: Anthony  could you setup a development  package for freetype  ?  I
> have to build xmbdfed from your sources...

Thanks for the note!  I'll see what I can do!  I haven't made a
development package for freetype yet because I have yet to learn how.  I
will see if I could set up a (lib)freetype and (lib)freetype-dev before
the new year.  However, if you are in a hurry, you might like to link
xmbdfed statically for now.  

Sorry for the inconvenience!  :)

Have a Happy New Year!  (in a few days, that is.  :)

Anthony

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