Re: isync vs mailsync

2001-09-11 Thread Roland Bauerschmidt
Joey Hess wrote:
> Still doesn't work for me. What IMAP server are you using?

courier-imap-ssl.

Roland

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unable to stat `./usr/share/man/man3/qcanvas.3qt.gz' (which I was about to install): Value too large for defined data type

2001-09-11 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom

 Not sure what to do here.  Please advise...  I will "fsck" it, but
 want to send this off before bringing my machine down, just in case.

Preparing to replace qt3-doc 2:3.0.0-0beta4-1 (using 
.../qt3-doc_2%3a3.0.0-0beta4-2_all.deb) ...
Document `qt3-doc' is not installed, cannot remove.
Unpacking replacement qt3-doc ...
dpkg: error processing 
/var/cache/apt/archives/qt3-doc_2%3a3.0.0-0beta4-2_all.deb (--unpack):
 unable to stat `./usr/share/man/man3/qcanvas.3qt.gz' (which I was about to 
install): Value too large for defined data type
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~
# stat /usr/share/man/man3/qcanvas.3qt.gz
  File: "/usr/share/man/man3/qcanvas.3qt.gz"
  Size: 6970Blocks: 16 IO Block: 4096   Regular File
Device: 303h/771d   Inode: 657294  Links: 1
Access: (0644/-rw-r--r--)  Uid: (0/root)   Gid: (0/root)
Access: Sun Sep  9 06:54:22 2001
Modify: Thu Aug 23 11:14:13 2001
Change: Sun Sep  2 00:37:51 2001

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~
% ls -l /usr/share/man/man3/qcanvas.3qt.gz
-rw-r--r--1 root root 16787680395758934842 Aug 23 11:14 
/usr/share/man/man3/qcanvas.3qt.gz

 Wow, huh!?  WTF?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~
% df -h /usr/share/man/man3/
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda3  27G   20G  7.6G  72% /


 "mount" shows:

 /dev/hda3 on / type reiserfs (rw)

Linux bittersweet 2.4.9vp6 #1 SMP Sun Sep 2 14:47:13 PDT 2001 i686 unknown




Bug#111942: ITP: shx -- a console hotline client

2001-09-11 Thread Sam Powers
Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2001-09-10
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: shx
  Version : 0.1.49
  Upstream Author : Devin Teske <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://synhxd.sourceforge.net/
* License : GPL
  Description : a console hotline client


-- System Information
Debian Release: testing/unstable
Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux mars 2.4.9 #2 Sat Sep 8 18:42:14 PDT 2001 i586
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C





Re: xplanet can use ssystem image file!

2001-09-11 Thread Edward Betts
Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I know there are lot of xplanet-lover here, and I just discover
> you can use ssystem file with xplanet!
> 
> xplanet --window  --body mars --image /usr/lib/ssystem/mars.jpg  
> --orthographic
> 
> (no there aren't any Debian developpers on Mars (yet ?).)
> BTW this should be in /usr/share/ssystem/mars.jpg per FHS.

Newer versions of ssystem are called openuniverse.

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Re: xplanet can use ssystem image file!

2001-09-11 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 09:25:02PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote:
> (no there aren't any Debian developpers on Mars (yet ?).)

One problem is that the maximum retransmission timeout in TCP isn't large
enough for a packet to the Mars...

;)
Marcus

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Re: Bug#111889: bsdmainutils: hexdump: manpage says hd is synonym, but it doesn't exist

2001-09-11 Thread Junichi Uekawa
"Marco d'Itri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit

>  >Perhaps Ken was suggesting removing the reference to hd in the manpage 
> instead.
> There is no reason to do this.

There is. A misleading documentation is a minor bug,
which should better be treated.

Customizing manpages to suite Debian is one of the things
Debian maintainers should be looking at.



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pkg desc translation: Let's talk about implementation (was: something else)

2001-09-11 Thread Martin Quinson
On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 05:40:25PM -0500, Adam Heath wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, Michael Bramer wrote:
> 
> > > A proper solution, at the very least, invovles storing the data in the
> > > foo.deb{control.tar.gz/control} file.
> >
> > gettext is not a hack. Gettext for translations and dpkg use gettext
> > is self for translation. Why re-inventing the wheel?
> 
> gettext can not really be used for this data.

You're a bit short on this point. Why ?

> It needs to be stored, in /var/lib/dpkg/status, as a single file.  This is so
> that dpkg can make safe updates to it.  Trying to sync multiple files is not a
> simple solution.

Letting gettext handle the translation syncronization, and letting dpkg
handle technical syncronization does not seem that bad to me. This can lead
to desyncronisation of the translation sometimes, but mainly in 'unstable',
where it's not critical. Please also note that nobody said there is any
simple solution.

> > I propose to store the translations in a some po.files and store this
> > in foo.deb{control.tar.gz}. But not in the control file.
> 
> They must be stored inline inside status/available.  This is the only sane way
> to implement atomic file updates.

That's not sane either because you will need to reimplement a lot of gettext
in dpkg, with no other benefit than having dpkg reinventing the wheel. (I
mainly think about tracking translation accurary and several language
fallback)

> > If you store the translation as normal field in the control file (like
> > Description-de: dff) you have outdated translations with the time.
> > And outdated translations is a very big problem.
> 
> zcat Packages_de.gz Packages_jp.gz | dpkg --merge-lang

Oh, I like this form. But what will it do ? I would say that when called
with --merge-lang option, dpkg call msgcat in background to merge the new
translation with the old one, and generate the resulting mo file. What's
your wish for this option ?

> > this make the patch and the patch work. I don't stress the patch and
> > maybe it has one or two bugs. But it work with Descriptions on my
> > system.
> 
> Please stop just applying this to Description fields.  Make it generic.  dpkg
> supports user-defined fields, so this proposal/implementation should as well.

Well, the patch I proposed contain a w_i18n_charfield function, which is
used only for the description in the table in lib/parse.c You're free to use
it for other fields also, but I did not find any.

This lead me to think that we are speaking since almost one month about a
patch nobody reviewed seriously. That's my fault, I submitted it without any
explanation.  Let me explain how it works:

First point, it does not change any status information because I think
gettext is better than any patch I can ever submit, and gettext have its own
"status file" (the mo files).

Second point, the patch is against the cvs version, and won't apply to the
released version.

Third, this patch do not solve the publishing issue. Ie, the mo file have to
be installed for it to work. I don't care if it's using a po file in each
package, concatening them and compiling them on fly, or if you have a
package installing all translation, or if you ask to Martians to send you
this file, that's another point (which also need to be solved, but not with
this patch). 



Then, four outputs are modified:
 1) dpkg --list
 2) the short description of the package in the list of dselect
 3) the long description, at the bottom of the dselect windows, when on a
package
 4) dpkg --status and --print-avail



For 1-3, the data flow in dpkg and dsellect is classically:
  a) information on disk
  b) information in memory
  c) filtering, sellecting information
  d) preprocessing (wrapping, or isolating short desc)
  e) output to screen

My patch only insert a call to dgettext between (c) and (d). It is a call to
Dgettext and not the regular gettext because the text to translate does not
take place in the dpkg textual domain. So, we've made a new textual domain
called dpkg-desc, and use the function dgettext to allow searching in this
new domain.


I did not put the call between (a) and (b) because these informations get
written on disk sometime. This would be bad to write some translated
information in place of the english one because the different admins of the
machine may speak different languages.

I did not put the call between (b) and (c) to reduce the number of call to
gettext. Even if all gettext translations are cached, the time taken is not
null. And also, this would need to change the filtering process.

I did not put the call between (d) and (e) because gettext want the original
in the exaclty same way than it's in the mo file (so, no wrapping)

See the attached patch for more details on exactly were I've put the
dgettext call.



For the fourth one (dpkg -l and -p), that's a bit more tricky, because dpkg
use the same buffer mecanism when writting db to disk and when outputing
results for end-user. There is a ta

step by step HOWTO switch debian installation into utf-8

2001-09-11 Thread Radovan Garabik
On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 01:08:02PM +0200, Radovan Garabik wrote:

> But I will put it on debian server soon, it is better to have
> a copy somewhere else.
> 

slightly updated version is now also at:
http://melkor.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk/~garabik/debian-utf8/HOWTO
http://people.debian.org/~garabik/debian-utf8/HOWTO


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Re: new proposal: Translating Debian packages' descriptions

2001-09-11 Thread Martin Quinson
On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 05:51:38PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, Michael Bramer wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 02:24:41PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > > > I don't know enough about gettext - am I assuming correctly that in
> > > > the .mo file, the English translation is replaced with a checksum or
> > > > similar, so you do not need to store the complete English translation?
> 
> > > Gettext normally uses the entire untranslated string as the key in the .mo
> > > file.  This has many advantages when dealing with translation of strings 
> > > in
> > > programs, where the untranslated string is actually present in the program
> > > source, and this is a big reason the GNU project favors gettext over 
> > > catgets
> > > systems found on other Unices.  It makes less sense in the case of package
> > > descriptions, however, because we're effectively doing two lookups -- 
> > > first to
> > > find the English description in Packages.gz using the package name and 
> > > version
> > > as a key, then to find the translated description in the .mo file using 
> > > the
> > > English description as a key.
> 
> > yes, you must two lookups. First in the package db (normal in the
> > menory) and (if LANG is set) make a second lookup with gettext.
> 
> > But this not a big problem, or is there a problem?
> 
> It casts doubt on the argument that gettext is a good solution here.  Just
> because gettext is the optimal solution for translation of messages within
> programs does not mean it's the best solution for package translations.  I'm
> personally willing to do a little wheel-engineering if it leads to a more
> elegant result.
>

> > If you put the translated text only in the db, and you don't use the
> > english text as key (like gettext) you get maybe outdated translation.
> 
> Only if the implementation is poor.  The accuracy of a translation can be
> verified in the process of assembling the file that is to be made available to
> user machines (whether that file is Packages.gz, or debian-descs.mo, or
> whatever).  Obviously the /inputs/ used to create this file must include
> mappings of English string -> translated string, but these mappings need not
> be retained in the output file.  We only need to make sure once that the
> translation is up-to-date, not every time the user runs dpkg, because each
> version of each package can have only one untranslated description associated
> with it -- it's a unique key, by definition.
> 
> If nothing else, perhaps you would consider that a .mo file containing
> [untranslated string -> translation] mappings will on average be almost twice
> as large as a .mo file containing [(package name,version) -> translation]
> mappings. :)

The problem is that you wont have to do a little wheel engineering, but a
lot of. Think, you will have to design:
 - the extracting tool control -> po file
   ok, that's true for all solutions ;) I'm working on a patch against
   gettext so that it can handle text following rfc822.
 
 - a mechanism to help the translator finding which text have to be
   translated in the po file.

   With your solution, the translator will face something like
   
   msgid "dpkg-1.9" 
   msgstr ""

   and how will them find what text they have to translate ? most of the
   translators I know are running the stable version of debian because they
   are not as geek as maintainers.

 - a mechanism to produce the mo file, or what ever. If you stick to the po
   format, you can reuse msgfmt, through.
   
 - an output mecanism, including the fallback to original if the translation
   is outdated. You have either to rewrite msgfmt to do this job at previous
   step, or design a new function in dpkg, apt, grep-dctrl, and all programm
   using the translated descriptions.
   
 If you change any tool of the gettext mechanism, you lost advantages from
 the translator point of view, like compendium, containing standard
 translations for reuse, or user-friendly tools like kbabel for translating,
 (including ispell possibility, which is implemented in kbabel, and some
 others)
   
For what gain ? 

A lookup less ? But gettext is cached, and well optimized. I think the
change and redesign is too much, regarding to the small speedup you can
expect...

Smaller resulting po files ? Come on, the woody+1 release will come on 6 CD
or more, and you are speaking about saving a few Mb... These data will be
well compressed, as any natural text, so that a minor problem, in my point
of view.

Bye, Mt.

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how to install KDE or Gnome on Sid

2001-09-11 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks,

What is the recommended way to install Gnome or KDE? The task-XXX
packages are gone for some time now, without appropriate replacement,
as it seems.


Regards

Harri




Re: ddts: notification about pt_BR-translation of the hello-debhelper description

2001-09-11 Thread Martin Quinson
On Fri, Sep 07, 2001 at 03:36:32AM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> Previously Michael Bramer wrote:
> > I am right and the translated description don't need be store in the
> > status file?
> 
> Yes and no. That is just a side-effect of a possible larger change.

Could you please explain what you're thinking about ? I am interessed in
allowing end user having translation. I don't really care about the way it
is done[*]. But with such a cryptic mail, it's hard to figure what can be
done for my perticular problem in your much larger framework...

I am willing to (try to) help, but it's hard without a decent information.
I'm subscribed on -dpkg since months, and I did not see any related mail
either.

What do I have to do to be informed about dpkg development ?


Bye, Mt.

[*]: ie, I think gettext does what we need, but if you explain what's wrong
about that, I'm pretty flexible.




Re: unable to stat `./usr/share/man/man3/qcanvas.3qt.gz' (which I was about to install): Value too large for defined data type

2001-09-11 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 10:37:48PM -0700, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~
> % ls -l /usr/share/man/man3/qcanvas.3qt.gz
> -rw-r--r--1 root root 16787680395758934842 Aug 23 11:14 
> /usr/share/man/man3/qcanvas.3qt.gz
> 
>  Wow, huh!?  WTF?
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~
> % df -h /usr/share/man/man3/
> FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> /dev/hda3  27G   20G  7.6G  72% /
> 
> 
>  "mount" shows:
> 
>  /dev/hda3 on / type reiserfs (rw)

might i suggest XFS, or even ext2.

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Re: ddts: notification about pt_BR-translation of the hello-debhelper description

2001-09-11 Thread Martin Quinson
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 12:20:42PM +0100, Nick Phillips wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 12:00:42PM +0200, Michael Bramer wrote:
> 
> > > It needs to be stored, in /var/lib/dpkg/status, as a single file.  This 
> > > is so
> > > that dpkg can make safe updates to it.  Trying to sync multiple files is 
> > > not a
> > > simple solution.
> > 
> > no, it does not store there. And I can explain it:
> 
> Well, shouldn't it? Wouldn't it make sense to have the translated description
> in there rather than the original one?

What if several admins does not speak the same languages ?

Mt




Re: xplanet can use ssystem image file!

2001-09-11 Thread John Galt
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:

>On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 09:25:02PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote:
>> (no there aren't any Debian developpers on Mars (yet ?).)
>
>One problem is that the maximum retransmission timeout in TCP isn't large
>enough for a packet to the Mars...

RFC 1607 describes how to do it  I think it's not due for at least
four more years.

>;)
>Marcus
>
>

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Re: jabber.deb

2001-09-11 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 09:57:29AM +0100, Jonathan McDowell wrote:
> I'm running the ICQ, MSN, AIM & Yahoo transports on my server so I'll
> package any of these that no one else grabs. However I'm wondering about
> whether there'll be a uniform method of adding a new transport to the
> server or if the onus will be on the user to do the configuration?

Kind of /etc/jabberd/jabber-xml.d/ would be nice, eh?

We will see :)

Meanwhile send me patches/correnctions for your transport to be added
(commented out) to the main config file. I would ike to take msn-t only.

Greetings
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Re: how to install KDE or Gnome on Sid

2001-09-11 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 10:06:13AM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> What is the recommended way to install Gnome or KDE? The task-XXX
> packages are gone for some time now, without appropriate replacement,
> as it seems.
> 

apt-get install kde 

and possibly 

apt-get install kdm kdebase-crypto kde-devel

This worked for me.

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Re: pam_xauth

2001-09-11 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Pavel Tcholakov wrote:
> Apparently this is not part of the standard Linux PAM distribution (I
> have 0.72 on both), I think it is written by somebody at Red Hat. Is
> there interest to see this packaged? Any arguments against doing X
> session forwarding at all?

What you describe isn't session forwarding, and doesn't work across
NFS (root can't read a users .Xauthority file if rootsquas is
enabled). 

And of course, running an X application as root is a bad idea anyway
if you want to live securely.

Wichert.

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Re: jabber.deb

2001-09-11 Thread Jonathan McDowell
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 10:39:24AM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 09:57:29AM +0100, Jonathan McDowell wrote:
> > I'm running the ICQ, MSN, AIM & Yahoo transports on my server so I'll
> > package any of these that no one else grabs. However I'm wondering about
> > whether there'll be a uniform method of adding a new transport to the
> > server or if the onus will be on the user to do the configuration?
> 
> Kind of /etc/jabberd/jabber-xml.d/ would be nice, eh?

That would be excellent.
 
> Meanwhile send me patches/correnctions for your transport to be added
> (commented out) to the main config file. I would ike to take msn-t
> only.
 
Are you planning to have all the transports running under the main
server or with separate instances?

Any idea when a package with the appropriate bits for transport building
(jabberd.h, lib/lib.h & platform-specifics IIRC) will be available?

J.

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Re: unable to stat `./usr/share/man/man3/qcanvas.3qt.gz' (which I was about to install): Value too large for defined data type

2001-09-11 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Karl M. Hegbloom wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~
> % ls -l /usr/share/man/man3/qcanvas.3qt.gz
> -rw-r--r--1 root root 16787680395758934842 Aug 23 11:14 
> /usr/share/man/man3/qcanvas.3qt.gz

Corrupted filesystem, unlink that file and try again.

Wichert.

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Re: how to install KDE or Gnome on Sid

2001-09-11 Thread Harald Dunkel
"Francesco P. Lovergine" wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 10:06:13AM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > What is the recommended way to install Gnome or KDE? The task-XXX
> > packages are gone for some time now, without appropriate replacement,
> > as it seems.
> >
> 
> apt-get install kde
> 

Ahh. There are thousands of packages with the string 'kde' inside, so 
I must have missed this one. But there is no 'gnome' meta package
(or I am still blind).

It would be nice to get an option for dselect to list the meta packages
only. The old task-XXX packages were easier to look for.


Many thanx for your help

Harri




Re: Netwinder debussy.debian.org upgraded

2001-09-11 Thread Othmar Pasteka
hi,

On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 01:36:13PM +, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
> -zsh: error in loading shared libraries: -zsh: symbol getrlimit64, version 
> GLIBC_2.1.3 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference
> Connection to debussy.debian.org closed.

fixed, the zsh package needed a recompile, and a new version is
in proposed updates ... and also installed on debussy and in the
chroot.

so long
Othmar

PS: you should not reply to debian-devel-announce, be careful.




keysigning request (south germany)

2001-09-11 Thread Joerg Wendland
Hi,
I would like to have my public key signed by one of you. I live in Ulm,
Germany. Is someone in my area willing to meet me and sign my key?

Thanks in advance, Joerg

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Re: xfonts-*dpi and reiserfs?

2001-09-11 Thread Sander Smeenk \(CistroN Medewerker\)
Quoting Sander Smeenk (CistroN Medewerker) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> | unable to make backup link of
> |`./usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/lutBS19-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz' before
> |installing new version: Device or resource busy
> 
> |Sep 10 11:54:05 replicator kernel: reiserfs_add_entry: Congratulations!
> |we have got hash function screwed up

It has been sorted out what caused this problem. Thanks to Seth M.
LaForge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for his investigation...

Seth writes:
Aha, rooting around in the ReiserFS source, I found the problem.  The   
ReiserFS rusapov hash only pays attention to the last log10(2^32) ~=
10 characters in the filename.  The xfonts-75dpi package contains 185   
files that end in "-1.pcf.gz".  With ".dpkg-tmp" appended, all of   
those filenames hash to the same value.  ReiserFS can deal with up to   
127 files with the same hash in the same directory.  dpkg doesn't   
delete the ".dpkg-tmp" files until it has unpacked everything, so when  
it gets 127 files into the installation, kaboom.

For more information & possible solutions, see bug #107843 in the BTS.
( Wichert, this might be interresting for you too! :) )

Regards,
Sander.

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Re: how to install KDE or Gnome on Sid

2001-09-11 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 11:07:01AM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote:
> "Francesco P. Lovergine" wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 10:06:13AM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote:
> > > Hi folks,
> > >
> > > What is the recommended way to install Gnome or KDE? The task-XXX
> > > packages are gone for some time now, without appropriate replacement,
> > > as it seems.
> > >
> > 
> > apt-get install kde
> > 
> 
> Ahh. There are thousands of packages with the string 'kde' inside, so 
> I must have missed this one. But there is no 'gnome' meta package
> (or I am still blind).
> 
> It would be nice to get an option for dselect to list the meta packages
> only. The old task-XXX packages were easier to look for.
> 
> 
> Many thanx for your help
> 
> Harri

Did you try

apt-get install gdm ?

It install all libraries and binaries. Moreover, it not so clear what
a GNOME wm should be... Ximinian? Gnome 1.4BETA?
What's the current status of that strange object?

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Re: Netwinder debussy.debian.org upgraded

2001-09-11 Thread Ganesan R
> "Othmar" == Othmar Pasteka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm happy to announce that the Netwinder debussy.debian.org is upgraded
> and again available for every Debian developer. The upgrade took
> longer than expected, but it's finally done.

Is there a problem in the LDAP setup? I am unable to login 

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Password doesn't work either.

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adding MIT to free license examples in policy

2001-09-11 Thread Domenico Andreoli
would it be a good idea to add MIT/X license to the examples of free
licenses at the end of #2.1.1 of the policy? how can i ask for this change?

thanks

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Bug#111969: ITP: xrmap -- global vector map rendering tool for X

2001-09-11 Thread Branden Robinson
Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2001-09-11
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: xrmap
  Version : 1.3
  Upstream Author : Jean-Pierre Demailly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://frmas.free.fr/li_1.htm
* License : GPL
  Description : global vector map rendering tool for X

Source: xrmap
Section: science
Priority: optional
Maintainer: Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Build-Depends: xlibs-dev, zlib1g-dev | libz-dev, xutils, debhelper (>= 3.0.0)
Standards-Version: 3.5.6

Package: xrmap
Architecture: any
Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}
Description: global vector map rendering tool for X
 The Xrmap program provides a user-friendly X client for generating images of
 the Earth and manipulating the CIA World data bank II global vector
 information (a huge geodata set about 45 MB in size).  Available features
 include coastlines and islands, political boundaries, major and minor rivers,
 glaciers, lakes, canals, reefs, etc.  The images can be accurately zoomed up
 to a factor of 100 or more.

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Re: Bug#111889: bsdmainutils: hexdump: manpage says hd is synonym, but it doesn't exist

2001-09-11 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 11, Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 >>  >Perhaps Ken was suggesting removing the reference to hd in the manpage 
 >> instead.
 >> There is no reason to do this.
 >There is. A misleading documentation is a minor bug,
It's not misleading. e.g. I created a hd -> /usr/bin/hexdump symlink in
~/bin/ .

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root rm: Permission denied (Was: unable to stat `./usr/share/man/man3/qcanvas.3qt.gz')

2001-09-11 Thread Tille, Andreas
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Wichert Akkerman wrote:

> Corrupted filesystem, unlink that file and try again.
Hmmm, I have also a relict of older ReiserFS (from 2.4.4 or so) on
my HD (I´m so happy that I didn´t used it on a critical box and perhaps
never will do so ...):

/var/lug# whoami
root
/var/lug# unlink postgres.log.7.gz
unlink: unlinking `postgres.log.7.gz': Permission denied
/var/lug# rm -f postgres.log.7.gz
rm: cannot remove `postgres.log.7.gz': Permission denied

(You see the dir is /var/lug which was formerly /var/log.  I renamed the
 dir to avoid problems with each logrot run.)

What if even root has no permission to unlink or remove?

Kind regards

Andreas.




Re: how to install KDE or Gnome on Sid

2001-09-11 Thread Ola Lundqvist
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 10:06:13AM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> What is the recommended way to install Gnome or KDE? The task-XXX
> packages are gone for some time now, without appropriate replacement,
> as it seems.

tasksel may help you

Regards,

// Ola

> 
> Regards
> 
> Harri
> 
> 
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Re: build dependency alternatives sequencing

2001-09-11 Thread Filip Van Raemdonck
Hello,

On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 11:16:50AM -0600, Bdale Garbee wrote:
> 
> However, the sbuild tool that
> most Debian autobuilders are using will only try the first alternative without
> manual intervention.  The tool probably can and should be augmented to handle
> the full Build-Depends syntax, but while doing so would increase our build
> percentages slightly, it would also mask what may be some underlying problems.

While I agree with the masking problems comment, there's at least one
situation where it really should be enhanced IMHO. That's the case where the
dependency it picks (the first one, in the current situation) simply is not
available. I don't think there's any reasonable excuse for bailing out in
that situation.

> There are a couple of other oddball cases, like 
> 
> svgalibg1-dev | svgalib-dummyg1
> 
> where svgalib isn't relevant for all architectures.

This is exactly one of the situations where the problem I described above
would occur. While moving the dependencies around would probably help in
nearly all cases [1], this would also really only be masking up the buildd
problems.


Regards,

Filip

[1] only exception I can think of is someone who maintains a package that
can use svgalib and who doesn't have access to i386 easily to build
himself - and granted, that's not very likely a case to happen.

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2001-09-11 Thread Nicolas SABOURET

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Re: Bug#111969: ITP: xrmap -- global vector map rendering tool for X

2001-09-11 Thread Eric Van Buggenhaut
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 05:32:39AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> Package: wnpp
> Version: N/A; reported 2001-09-11
> Severity: wishlist
> 
> * Package name: xrmap
>   Version : 1.3
>   Upstream Author : Jean-Pierre Demailly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> * URL : http://frmas.free.fr/li_1.htm
> * License : GPL
>   Description : global vector map rendering tool for X
> 
>  The Xrmap program provides a user-friendly X client for generating images of
>  the Earth and manipulating the CIA World data bank II global vector
>  information (a huge geodata set about 45 MB in size).  Available features
>  include coastlines and islands, political boundaries, major and minor rivers,
>  glaciers, lakes, canals, reefs, etc.  The images can be accurately zoomed up
>  to a factor of 100 or more.


Sounds damn cool !

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aptitude: I know it broke, don't bother telling me

2001-09-11 Thread Daniel Burrows
  Hey there,

  The first bugreport on an aptitude problem caused by #111914 just rolled
in.  (namely, the http method breaks badly when run from aptitude)  This is
a known problem that comes from the apt libraries, and I'll be uploading a
workaround soonish.  Please don't send tons of bug reports about it or I'll
have to deal with merging them instead of dealing with the workaround :)

  Daniel

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Re: build dependency alternatives sequencing

2001-09-11 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Filip Van Raemdonck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit

 
> > There are a couple of other oddball cases, like 
> > 
> > svgalibg1-dev | svgalib-dummyg1
> > 
> > where svgalib isn't relevant for all architectures.
> 
> This is exactly one of the situations where the problem I described above
> would occur. While moving the dependencies around would probably help in
> nearly all cases [1], this would also really only be masking up the buildd
> problems.

Note that this doesn't really mean, 
"Build this source with svgalibg1-dev if this is available in 
this architecture, and if not build with svgalib-dummyg1".


It can mean "Try to install svgalibg1-dev, but if it was not possible
to obtain it, try to install svgalib-dummyg1"

i.e. a broken mirror, or a broken package (with impossible 
dependency?) can cause a "there should be SVGA support 
but it doesn't in this particular build that the autobuilder has 
built".

Which obviously doesn't sound like the right meaning.



regards,
junichi


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Re: Bug#111889: bsdmainutils: hexdump: manpage says hd is synonym, but it doesn't exist

2001-09-11 Thread Junichi Uekawa
"Marco d'Itri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit

> On Sep 11, Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>  >>  >Perhaps Ken was suggesting removing the reference to hd in the manpage 
> instead.
>  >> There is no reason to do this.
>  >There is. A misleading documentation is a minor bug,
> It's not misleading. e.g. I created a hd -> /usr/bin/hexdump symlink in
> ~/bin/ .

That symlink is not available in the Debian package, I presume.


regards,
junichi

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RE: HW Probe

2001-09-11 Thread BERNARDES,JOAN \(Non-HP-Brazil,ex1\)
Hi,
What do you think about Debian has a GUI for installation? It will
not be better?
Is it possible to do the same with Debian?
My project has a Bootable CD based on Debian, but it's difficult to
run a XServer in any machine without a HW probe, do you know if Debian has
something like that?
Thanks,
Joan.

-Original Message-
From: Mike Markley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: segunda-feira, 10 de setembro de 2001 17:32
To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: HW Probe


What does this have to do with Debian development?

On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 01:53:09PM -0400, BERNARDES,JOAN (Non-HP-Brazil,ex1)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake forth:
>   Hi,
>   I have a question about the Red Hat 7.1 installation CD.
>   It uses XFree86 4.1?
>   How it's possible to run in any video card? Anaconda probe the hw
> and configure the XServer?
>   I'm doing a similar application in a bootable CD, but I don't know
> how to probe the hw, how can I do that for a video card?
>   Can I use anaconda on my bootable CD? Is it free?
>   Thanks,
> 
> 
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Re: root rm: Permission denied (Was: unable to stat `./usr/share/man/man3/qcanvas.3qt.gz')

2001-09-11 Thread Ethan Benson
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 01:24:56PM +0200, Tille, Andreas wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> 
> > Corrupted filesystem, unlink that file and try again.
> Hmmm, I have also a relict of older ReiserFS (from 2.4.4 or so) on
> my HD (I´m so happy that I didn´t used it on a critical box and perhaps
> never will do so ...):
> 
> /var/lug# whoami
> root
> /var/lug# unlink postgres.log.7.gz
> unlink: unlinking `postgres.log.7.gz': Permission denied
> /var/lug# rm -f postgres.log.7.gz
> rm: cannot remove `postgres.log.7.gz': Permission denied

i would suggest the immutable flag, but AFAIK reiserfs has no such
thing.  thats the only time ive ever seen root denied permission to do
such things (other then /proc..).  

sure someone isn't playing a joke on you and replaced /bin/su with
fakeroot ;-)

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Re: jabber.deb

2001-09-11 Thread Scott Dier
* Jonathan McDowell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010911 03:53]:
> Are you planning to have all the transports running under the main
> server or with separate instances?

I would prefer seperate instances if at all possible.

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Re: ddts: notification about pt_BR-translation of the hello-debhelper description

2001-09-11 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Martin Quinson wrote:
> Could you please explain what you're thinking about ? I am interessed in
> allowing end user having translation. I don't really care about the way it
> is done[*]. But with such a cryptic mail, it's hard to figure what can be
> done for my perticular problem in your much larger framework...

I'm not thinking of anything in particular at the moment, mostly just
following the discussion and noting possible issues.

At this moment translations are simply not on the top of the todo-list
for dpkg, and we already know that we will need some infrastructure to
support them properly that does not exist at the moment.

> What do I have to do to be informed about dpkg development ?

Follow CVS.

> [*]: ie, I think gettext does what we need, but if you explain what's wrong
> about that, I'm pretty flexible.

You've already been told a few times that gettext only does a small (and
simple) part of what is involved.

Wichert.

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RE: HW Probe

2001-09-11 Thread Joop Stakenborg
On Tue, 2001-09-11 at 14:19, BERNARDES,JOAN (Non-HP-Brazil,ex1) wrote:
>   Hi,
>   What do you think about Debian has a GUI for installation? It will
> not be better?
>   Is it possible to do the same with Debian?

Sure, cat /proc/pci ...

>   My project has a Bootable CD based on Debian, but it's difficult to
> run a XServer in any machine without a HW probe, do you know if Debian has
> something like that?
>   Thanks,
>   Joan.
> 







Error

2001-09-11 Thread Acosta-Gamez



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This is not a PC support address. Please remove my 
direction from your list.
Regards.
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Re: HW Probe

2001-09-11 Thread John Ericson
On Sep 10 13:53, BERNARDES,JOAN (Non-HP-Brazil,ex1) wrote:
>   Can I use anaconda on my bootable CD? Is it free?

Im pretty sure Red Hat GPL all there stuff, this is the major reason why we
now have mandrake linux.

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'BTS down' - going to stay?

2001-09-11 Thread Martin Albert
Sorry for abusing the list - can't find pseudo packages list on www.d.o?

For a few days now i get this:

> index maint [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Error getting Bug list for maintainer [EMAIL PROTECTED]' (code 256 
):
Your terminal lacks the ability to clear the screen or position the 
cursor.

> send 61190
Error getting logs for Bug#61190 (code 256 ):
Your terminal lacks the ability to clear the screen or position the 
cursor.

> send-detail 61190
This BTS function is currently disabled, sorry.


Is this a known issue? Going to stay?

greetings, martin




Re: A script to see how much a package is depended upon.

2001-09-11 Thread Oohara Yuuma
On Fri, 7 Sep 2001 00:11:28 +0900,
Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was writing a script to see how much a package is depended upon,
> i. e. cumulatively culculating Reverse-Build-Deps, and
> Reverse-dependencies. However, I thought it might be useful to see
> what kind of packages have a "weight", i.e. needs fixing first for 
> packages to enter "testing".
> 
> As I anticipated, it has a lot of "loops", and it is going in ridiculous
> values. These things should have had trouble when porting to new arches,
> but anyway, I have put the script up on
> http://mikilab.doshisha.ac.jp/~dancer/analyse-sourcepackages
I rewrote it from scratch in Perl.
for Packages.gz
http://www.interq.or.jp/libra/oohara/analyse-packages/analyse-packages.perl.gz
for Sources.gz
http://www.interq.or.jp/libra/oohara/analyse-packages/analyse-sources.perl.gz

Here is the top 10 Depends list (for unstable):
./analyse-packages.perl | sort -n -r | head -n 10
5539 libc6
2245 debianutils
2069 xfree86-common
1990 libfreetype6
1986 xlibs
1829 perl-base
1803 libncurses5
1491 libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
1383 zlib1g
1283 libdb2

The number of the *binary* packages that Build-Depends on a package:
./analyse-sources.perl | sort -n -r
5208 libncurses-dev
5203 libgc5-dev
5203 doxygen
5202 libpam-dev
5202 ed
5202 bison
5201 symlinks
5201 svgalibg1-dev
5201 sgml-tools
5201 perl5-base
(snip)
5200 debhelper
(snip)
5200 altgcc
(*not* snipped here)
690 libpng-dev
(snip)

The total number of the packages:
$ zcat Packages.gz | egrep -c "^Package:"
6361

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Re: A script to see how much a package is depended upon.

2001-09-11 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, Oohara Yuuma wrote:

> On Fri, 7 Sep 2001 00:11:28 +0900,
> Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I was writing a script to see how much a package is depended upon,
> > i. e. cumulatively culculating Reverse-Build-Deps, and
> > Reverse-dependencies. However, I thought it might be useful to see
> > what kind of packages have a "weight", i.e. needs fixing first for 
> > packages to enter "testing".
> > 
> > As I anticipated, it has a lot of "loops", and it is going in ridiculous
> > values. These things should have had trouble when porting to new arches,
> > but anyway, I have put the script up on
> > http://mikilab.doshisha.ac.jp/~dancer/analyse-sourcepackages
> I rewrote it from scratch in Perl.



This is good. Could you put a full version online somewhere, possibly
updating that version once in a while?

Maybe a link to that page from w.d.o/devel would be a good thing, too.

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Re: 'BTS down' - going to stay?

2001-09-11 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 06:53:08PM +0200, Martin Albert wrote:
> Sorry for abusing the list - can't find pseudo packages list on www.d.o?
> 
> For a few days now i get this:
> 
> > index maint [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Error getting Bug list for maintainer [EMAIL PROTECTED]' (code 256 
> ):
> Your terminal lacks the ability to clear the screen or position the 
> cursor.
> 
> > send 61190
> Error getting logs for Bug#61190 (code 256 ):
> Your terminal lacks the ability to clear the screen or position the 
> cursor.

This was a known bug in lynx, it resurfaced due to a slight oversight.
It will be fixed shortly.

> > send-detail 61190
> This BTS function is currently disabled, sorry.
> 
> Is this a known issue? Going to stay?

The send-detail command is disabled since we disabled db2html... no ETA on
its return, yet.

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Re: 'BTS down' - going to stay?

2001-09-11 Thread Adam Heath
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Martin Albert wrote:

> Sorry for abusing the list - can't find pseudo packages list on www.d.o?
>
> For a few days now i get this:
>
> > index maint [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Error getting Bug list for maintainer [EMAIL PROTECTED]' (code 256
> ):
> Your terminal lacks the ability to clear the screen or position the
> cursor.

I have compiled lynx 2.8.3-1.5 for potato, and installed it onto the machine
that hosts bugs.debian.org.  I have verified that this fixes the bug.





Re: keysigning request (south germany)

2001-09-11 Thread Michael Banck
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 11:34:14AM +0200, Joerg Wendland wrote:
> I would like to have my public key signed by one of you. I live in Ulm,
> Germany. Is someone in my area willing to meet me and sign my key?

There are some of us in Munich. You'll most probably find someone during
Systems. But you can come around anytime if you want.

Michael




Bug#112020: ITP: keychain -- An OpenSSH key manager

2001-09-11 Thread Cesar Mendoza
Package: wnpp
Severity: whishlist

 From the keychain help:

 Keychain is an OpenSSH key manager, typically run from ~/.bash_profile.  When
 run, it will make sure ssh-agent is running; if not, it will start ssh-agent.
 It will redirect ssh-agent's output to ~/.ssh-agent, so that cron jobs that
 need to use ssh-agent keys can simply source this file and make the necessary
 passwordless ssh connections.  In addition, when keychain runs, it will check
 with ssh-agent and make sure that the ssh RSA/DSA keys that you specified on
 the keychain command line have actually been added to ssh-agent.  If not, you
 are prompted for the appropriate passphrases so that they can be added by
 keychain.

Homepage: http://www.gentoo.org/projects/keychain.html
License: GPL

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Bug#112017: ITP: kernel-patch-2.4.9-ext3+ext23spedup -- latest ext3 patch prepared for 2.4.9 and tytso's patches

2001-09-11 Thread Eduard Bloch
Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2001-09-11
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: kernel-patch-2.4.9-ext3+speedup-ext2+3
  Version : 0.9.9
  Upstream Authors: Dr Stephen C. Tweedie
Peter Braam
Andreas Dilger
Andrew Morton
* URL : http://www.uow.edu.au/~andrewm/linux/ext3/
* License : GPL
  Description : ext3fs support for Linux 2.4.9 and speedup patches

The latest patch for kernel 2.4.10pre4 is used as the base source. It
needs a slight modificaton to apply cleanly on 2.4.9.
This package will also contain experimental patches from Theodory Tso
that make sequent 'readdir' faster, resulting in better performance of
ls,find,... on large directories.

If someone has made bad experiences with them, please let me know and I
will remove this patches.

Gruss/Regards,
Eduard.






Re: A script to see how much a package is depended upon.

2001-09-11 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 02:43:36AM +0900, Oohara Yuuma wrote:

> [snip binary package dependencies]
>
> The number of the *binary* packages that Build-Depends on a package:
> ./analyse-sources.perl | sort -n -r
> 5208 libncurses-dev
> 5203 libgc5-dev
> 5203 doxygen

I suspect a bug here.  I can only find 3 source packages which build-depend
on doxygen (korelib, nurbs++, vdkxdb).  The corresponding binary packages
(libkore0, libkore-dev, libnurbs++-dev, libnurbs++1, libvdkxdb-dev,
libvdkxdb) have very few reverse dependencies, and though I haven't traced
them out completely, the packages involved aren't (at a glance) connected to
anything very essential.  Perhaps a loop is involved?

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Re: Error

2001-09-11 Thread Jason Thomas
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Re: A script to see how much a package is depended upon.

2001-09-11 Thread Randolph Chung
> As I anticipated, it has a lot of "loops", and it is going in ridiculous
> values. These things should have had trouble when porting to new arches,
> but anyway, I have put the script up on
> http://mikilab.doshisha.ac.jp/~dancer/analyse-sourcepackages

neato i had written something somewhat similar some months back that
the ia64/hppa porters occasionally use. It only analyzes
build-dependencies though

i made a picture of the build-dependencies of bash using the script and
graphviz:
http://people.debian.org/~tausq/bash-build-deps.png

scary...

also generates things like
http://auric.debian.org/~tausq/buildd/ia64-latest.html

but the script is a bit buggy and ugly :) 

auric:~tausq/bdepvis if anyone is interested.

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Re: A script to see how much a package is depended upon.

2001-09-11 Thread Oohara Yuuma
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:42:36 -0400,
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 02:43:36AM +0900, Oohara Yuuma wrote:
> 
> > [snip binary package dependencies]
> >
> > The number of the *binary* packages that Build-Depends on a package:
> > ./analyse-sources.perl | sort -n -r
> > 5208 libncurses-dev
> > 5203 libgc5-dev
> > 5203 doxygen
> 
> I suspect a bug here.  I can only find 3 source packages which build-depend
> on doxygen (korelib, nurbs++, vdkxdb).  The corresponding binary packages
> (libkore0, libkore-dev, libnurbs++-dev, libnurbs++1, libvdkxdb-dev,
> libvdkxdb) have very few reverse dependencies, and though I haven't traced
> them out completely, the packages involved aren't (at a glance) connected to
> anything very essential.  Perhaps a loop is involved?
libc6-dev (Source: glibc) has Build-Depends: gcc-3.0-sparc64 [sparc] .
gcc-3.0-sparc64 (Source: gcc-3.0) has Build-Depends-Indep: doxygen .

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Re: isync vs mailsync

2001-09-11 Thread Joey Hess
Roland Bauerschmidt wrote:
> Joey Hess wrote:
> > Still doesn't work for me. What IMAP server are you using?
> 
> courier-imap-ssl.

I guess that's the difference. The wu imapd, which I am using, tickles
other isync bugs too. I should figure out how to get courier to work.

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Re: A script to see how much a package is depended upon.

2001-09-11 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 09:06:04AM +0900, Oohara Yuuma wrote:

> libc6-dev (Source: glibc) has Build-Depends: gcc-3.0-sparc64 [sparc] .
> gcc-3.0-sparc64 (Source: gcc-3.0) has Build-Depends-Indep: doxygen .

You are correct.  I had overlooked Build-Depends-Indep in my manual scan.

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Re: A script to see how much a package is depended upon.

2001-09-11 Thread Oohara Yuuma
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:01:38 +0200 (CEST),
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, Oohara Yuuma wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 7 Sep 2001 00:11:28 +0900,
> > Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I was writing a script to see how much a package is depended upon,
> > > i. e. cumulatively culculating Reverse-Build-Deps, and
> > > Reverse-dependencies. However, I thought it might be useful to see
> > > what kind of packages have a "weight", i.e. needs fixing first for 
> > > packages to enter "testing".
> > > 
> > > As I anticipated, it has a lot of "loops", and it is going in ridiculous
> > > values. These things should have had trouble when porting to new arches,
> > > but anyway, I have put the script up on
> > > http://mikilab.doshisha.ac.jp/~dancer/analyse-sourcepackages
> > I rewrote it from scratch in Perl.
> 
> 
> 
> This is good. Could you put a full version online somewhere, possibly
> updating that version once in a while?
Depends list
http://www.interq.or.jp/libra/oohara/analyse-packages/result-packages.txt.bz2
Build-Depends list
http://www.interq.or.jp/libra/oohara/analyse-packages/result-sources.txt.bz2

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Re: keysigning request (south germany)

2001-09-11 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 09:06:48PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote:
> There are some of us in Munich. You'll most probably find someone during
> Systems. But you can come around anytime if you want.

I will be on Systems Dienstag und Mittwoch. You can cotact me on 0179 490
1256 there. Dont forget your passpord and a paper copy of your
fingerprint/size/date/id.

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spammer attached to debian-bugs-dist?

2001-09-11 Thread Steve Langasek

Hello,

I received this autoresponse to two different messages I sent to the BTS this
evening.  Anyone have any insights into this particular bit of nonsense?

Thanks,
Steve Langasek
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Re: A script to see how much a package is depended upon.

2001-09-11 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Oohara Yuuma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit

> > values. These things should have had trouble when porting to new arches,
> > but anyway, I have put the script up on
> > http://mikilab.doshisha.ac.jp/~dancer/analyse-sourcepackages
> I rewrote it from scratch in Perl.

No, you have written a different program


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Re: spammer attached to debian-bugs-dist?

2001-09-11 Thread Steve Langasek

And... it appears I receive these messages in response to posts to this
mailing list, as well. :P

Steve Langasek
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>
> Hello,
>
> I received this autoresponse to two different messages I sent to the BTS this
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>
> Thanks,
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>
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