Bug#359657: ITP: cfourcc -- Command line tool for changing FourCC in Microsoft RIFF AVI files

2006-03-28 Thread Jarno Elonen
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Jarno Elonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


* Package name: cfourcc
  Version : 0.1.2
  Upstream Author : mypapit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://sarovar.org/projects/gfourcc
* License : GPL
  Description : Command line tool for changing FourCC in Microsoft RIFF AVI 
files

  Identifies the codec used in AVI files (*.avi) and allows
  the user to change the FourCC description code (like
  fourcc-changer in Windows). Useful for people working
  with Microsoft AVI file. A Linux clone of AviC fourcc changer tool.


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Re: Bug#357703: udev breaks syslog

2006-03-28 Thread Marco d'Itri
Does anybody have an opinion about this?
When udev is installed for the first time on a running system the
current /dev/log socket ends up in /dev/.static/ (which is not
world-readable) until the next reboot.

On Mar 19, Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mar 19, Richard Kettlewell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >   $ ls -l /dev/log
> >   lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 20 Mar  4 17:03 /dev/log -> /dev/.static/dev/log
> 
> This only happen between the first time you install it and you reboot
> the system. I am open to more solutions. Should I bind-mount the socket?

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Re: When to drop/split/summ changelog files

2006-03-28 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Bill Allombert 2006-03-28 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Please always keep the full Debian changelog information in the package.
> Of course, you can move very old changelog entry to changelog.old or
> changelog.1 if they cause problems, but ship them in the deb.

Please don't even do that, the changelog is meant to be
machine-readable, and unless there is a standard for how to access the
full changelog, don't move it away. And even for humans, "less
changelog" is a easier than "less changelog changelog.old" etc.

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Re: etch before vista

2006-03-28 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 09:28:47PM -0500, Benjamin Seidenberg wrote:
> I think a wiki would be more effective.

Eww, please, no wiki.

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Bug#341344: ITP: python-urwid -- curses-based UI/widget library for Python

2006-03-28 Thread Paul Wise
Package: wnpp
Followup-For: Bug #341344
Owner: Paul Wise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I intend to package urwid for debian. I'm making packages now.

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Re: Building the whole Debian archive with GCC 4.1: a summary

2006-03-28 Thread Daniel Schepler
Le Lundi 27 Mars 2006 14:57, j'ai écrit :
> I haven't gotten all the way through, so I don't have a complete list.  I'm
> planning to start filing bugs soon, though, and I could classify them with
> a usertag if you like (once I figure out how assigning them works).

OK, I've started filing the bugs now, and I'll be adding usertags to put them 
under 
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:binnmu .

By the way, is there a way to assign the usertag right when I file a bug, 
assuming I want to keep using [EMAIL PROTECTED] as the submitter 
address?
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Re: Bug#359345: ITP: dbdesigner -- DBDesigner 4 is a visual database design system that integrates database design, modeling, creation and maintenance into a single, seamless environment.

2006-03-28 Thread Steve Greenland
On 27-Mar-06, 17:11 (CST), Guilherme Mesquita Gondim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
> Owner: Guilherme Mesquita Gondim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> 
> * Package name: dbdesigner
>   Version : 4
> * License : GPL
>   Upstream Author : Name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> * URL : http://www.fabforce.net/dbdesigner4
>   Description : DBDesigner 4 is a visual database design system that 
> integrates database design, modeling, creation and maintenance into a single, 
> seamless environment.

That's *way* too long for a short description. It's needs to be fairly
short, say <60 chars, so that it displays properly in aptitude et. al.
on an 80 column screen. Also, you don't repeat the package name in the
short description. Perhaps:

  Description: visual database design, modeling, and maintenance tool

Now, usually I ding people for long descriptions that are too short,
but in this case, it may be too long. Also, you duplicated the "General
Information" section. Don't repeat the short description in the long
description. Thing about some user browsing the packages, and consider
that they'll (usually) only be able to see the first 15 lines or so
without scrolling. What would you want to know? What would be sufficient
to make it worth scrolling through the rest? What is trivia that is
better left to the README?

For example: 

> DBDesigner 4 compares to products like Oracle's Designer?, IBM's 
> Rational Rose?, Computer Associates's ERwin? and theKompany's 
> DataArchitect? but is an Open Source Project available for Microsoft 
> Windows? 2k/XP and Linux KDE/Gnome. It is release on the GPL.

Let's see, it's in Debian main, so I know that it's a) Linux and b)
free. The rest is advertising.

I had to scroll through 30 lines to find out what database it supports.
Is it really mysql only?

Steve

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Re: How (not) to write copyright files - take two

2006-03-28 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Luca Capello 2006-03-28 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Just to be sure, is the following enough for the BSD license?
> 
>  This software is licensed under the terms of the BSD license,
>  which can be found on Debian systems in the file
>  /usr/share/common-licenses/BSD or from
>  http://www.opensource.org/licenses/bsd-license.php
> 
>  The license was modified to reflect that $AUTHOR, not the Regents
>  of the University of California, is the author. 

It feels wrong to do that, I'd copy the whole text. IMHO having the
(C) Regents line in /usr/share/common-licenses/BSD makes that file
practically useless, except for using the text as a cut-and-paste
template.

The fact that every (L)GPL packages' copyright points to
/usr/share/common-licenses/ is misleading. Packagers are required to
put the *full* license in debian/copyright (be it a 'short' license
like BSD-style, be it a long text as the GPL uses). The ability to
point to another file is just a matter of convenience for a some
licenses. Most new maintainers seem to get that wrong.

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Re: How (not) to write copyright files - take two

2006-03-28 Thread Luca Capello
Hello!

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 17:06:05 +0200, Christoph Berg wrote:
> Re: Luca Capello 2006-03-28 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Just to be sure, is the following enough for the BSD license?
[...]
>>  The license was modified to reflect that $AUTHOR, not the Regents
>>  of the University of California, is the author. 
>
> It feels wrong to do that, I'd copy the whole text. IMHO having the
> (C) Regents line in /usr/share/common-licenses/BSD makes that file
> practically useless, except for using the text as a cut-and-paste
> template.
>
> The fact that every (L)GPL packages' copyright points to
> /usr/share/common-licenses/ is misleading. Packagers are required to
> put the *full* license in debian/copyright (be it a 'short' license
> like BSD-style, be it a long text as the GPL uses).

I'm not an English native speaker, but I think this is not what it's
reported in the Debian New Maintainer's Guide [1] or in the Debian
Policy Manual [2].


[Debian New Maintainer's Guide]

 4.2 `copyright' file

 [...]

 The important things to add to this file are the place you got the
 package from and the actual copyright notice and license. You must
 include the complete license, unless it's one of the common free
 software licenses such as GNU GPL or LGPL, BSD or the Artistic
 license, when you can just refer to the appropriate file in
 /usr/share/common-licenses/ directory that exists on every Debian
 system.

-
[Debian Policy Manual]

 12.5 Copyright information

 Every package must be accompanied by a verbatim copy of its copyright
 and distribution license in the file
 /usr/share/doc/package/copyright. This file must neither be compressed
 nor be a symbolic link.

 [...]

 Packages distributed under the UCB BSD license, the Artistic license,
 the GNU GPL, and the GNU LGPL should refer to the files
 /usr/share/common-licenses/BSD, /usr/share/common-licenses/Artistic,
 /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL, and /usr/share/common-licenses/LGPL
 respectively, rather than quoting them in the copyright file.
=

Please correct me if I'm wrong :-)

Thx, bye,
Gismo / Luca

[1] http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ch-dreq.en.html#s-copyright
[2] http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-docs.html#s-copyrightfile


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Re: Bug#359345: ITP: dbdesigner -- DBDesigner 4 is a visual database design system that integrates database design, modeling, creation and maintenance into a single, seamless environment.

2006-03-28 Thread frank paulsen
Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On 27-Mar-06, 17:11 (CST), Guilherme Mesquita Gondim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote: 
>> Package: wnpp
>> Severity: wishlist
>> Owner: Guilherme Mesquita Gondim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> 
>> 
>> * Package name: dbdesigner
>>   Version : 4
>> * License : GPL
>>   Upstream Author : Name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> * URL : http://www.fabforce.net/dbdesigner4

http://www.fabforce.net/forum/ tells us:

,
| Dear DBDesigner4 users,
| 
| Due to several attacks against the DBDesigner4 forum it has now been
| closed down. We simply cannot understand the sick motivation of
| people to attack Open Source projects. So please understand that we
| will not provide any support from now on.
| 
| We will continue to host the DBD4 download till the release of the
| MySQL Workbench, its successor application that will be an official
| MySQL product. Then this project will rest in peace.
| 
| Best regards,
| fabFORCE.net team
`

so dbdesigner upstream is dead.


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Re: Bug#357703: udev breaks syslog

2006-03-28 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Tue, Mar 28, 2006 at 12:57:24PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:

> Does anybody have an opinion about this?
> When udev is installed for the first time on a running system the
> current /dev/log socket ends up in /dev/.static/ (which is not
> world-readable) until the next reboot.

How about restarting syslog (or it's equivalent) after relocating the
old /dev? glibc already has infrastructure for restarting services on
upgrade, maybe udev can borrow that.

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Re: Maintainers Guide

2006-03-28 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Anthony DeRobertis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> The year really should be included. At least in the US, not having a
> year in the notice appears to make the notice worthless. Quoting Title
> 17 USC Sec. 401(b):

Only for some pretty strange values of "worthless". AFAIU the only
legal effect of the notice requirements you cite is as defined by
subsection (d): if a compliant notice is present, a defendant is
excluded from the defense that he did not understand that the work was
copyrighted.

A non-compliant notice still leaves the plaintiff in a copyright
infringement suit the option of arguing that the defendant did in fact
know that the work was subject to copyright. The only difference is
that the defendant gets to try to convince the court that he did not
recognize the notice as an assertion that copyright exists.

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Re: How (not) to write copyright files - take two

2006-03-28 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Luca Capello 2006-03-28 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Please correct me if I'm wrong :-)

That's what I intended to say, sorry if I made the impression of
contradicting you. The point was that some people new to packaging
seem to think that they don't have to include the full license, and if
the license is something != GPL, just ignore that fact. Not getting
debian/copyright right is the reason I reject most sponsor uploads on
the first try.

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Re: Bug#357703: udev breaks syslog

2006-03-28 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Mar 28, Gabor Gombas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> How about restarting syslog (or it's equivalent) after relocating the
> old /dev? glibc already has infrastructure for restarting services on
> upgrade, maybe udev can borrow that.
Harder than it looks. There are multiple syslog daemons, how can the
package know which one is installed and needs to be restarted?

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Re: Bug#359345: ITP: dbdesigner -- DBDesigner 4 is a visual database design system that integrates database design, modeling, creation and maintenance into a single, seamless environment.

2006-03-28 Thread Frank Küster
frank paulsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> | Due to several attacks against the DBDesigner4 forum it has now been
> | closed down. We simply cannot understand the sick motivation of
> | people to attack Open Source projects. So please understand that we
> | will not provide any support from now on.
[...]
> so dbdesigner upstream is dead.

And very security-aware, ahem.

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Re: First AMD64 Binary Uploaded

2006-03-28 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 05:56:11PM -0500, Aaron M. Ucko wrote:
> Kurt Roeckx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > For now I suggest you contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> OK, thanks; I considered that, but wasn't sure it was focused enough.
> (Granted, -devel isn't that focused either, but it is more
> developer-oriented.)

That list should be a porters list, even though it's more abused
as a user list.


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Re: Bug#357703: udev breaks syslog

2006-03-28 Thread sean finney
On Tue, Mar 28, 2006 at 06:15:27PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> Harder than it looks. There are multiple syslog daemons, how can the
> package know which one is installed and needs to be restarted?

are there really that many syslog daemons (my count is 5)?  why not make
a list, fire off invoke-rc.d on each of them during upgrade,
and ignore the return codes?  if you really cared i suppose you
couldtest before calling invoke-rc.d too, but the point is i
don't think it's a great deal of work to do so.

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Re: First AMD64 Binary Uploaded

2006-03-28 Thread Graham Wilson
On Tue, Mar 28, 2006 at 06:35:23PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 05:56:11PM -0500, Aaron M. Ucko wrote:
> > Kurt Roeckx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > For now I suggest you contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > OK, thanks; I considered that, but wasn't sure it was focused enough.
> > (Granted, -devel isn't that focused either, but it is more
> > developer-oriented.)
> 
> That list should be a porters list, even though it's more abused
> as a user list.

Aren't the other arch lists like that used by users? I know
debian-powerpc is, at least.

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Bug#359753: ITP: diva -- Easy to use, scalable video editing software for Gnome.

2006-03-28 Thread Michael Biebl
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Michael Biebl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: diva
  Version : 0.0.1
  Upstream Author : Michael Dominic K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://www.diva-project.org/
* License : MIT/X
  Description : Easy to use, scalable video editing software for Gnome.

Diva is a project to build an easy to use, scalable, open-source video
editing software for the Gnome desktop. Its goal is to provide users
with a complete and tightly integrated set of tools that can be used to
import, edit, enhance and export digital video material.


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Re: Bug#357703: udev breaks syslog

2006-03-28 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 3/28/06, sean finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 28, 2006 at 06:15:27PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> > Harder than it looks. There are multiple syslog daemons, how can the
> > package know which one is installed and needs to be restarted?
>
> are there really that many syslog daemons (my count is 5)?  why not make
> a list, fire off invoke-rc.d on each of them during upgrade,
> and ignore the return codes?  if you really cared i suppose you
> couldtest before calling invoke-rc.d too, but the point is i
> don't think it's a great deal of work to do so.

That doesn't sound like a clean solution. :)
I doubt udev/syslog are the only packages that encounter this situation.


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Re: Bug#358695: ITP: latex-utils -- utilities for LaTeX/xfig

2006-03-28 Thread Frank Küster
Vincent Danjean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I retry:
>
> Package name : latex-compile
> Description  : easy compiling of complexe (and simple) LaTeX documents
>  This package provides several tools that aim to simplify the
>  compilation of LaTeX documents :
>  .
>  LaTeX.mk: a make(1) snippets to help compiling LaTeX documents in
>  DVI, PDF, PS, ... format. Dependencies are automatically tracked : one
>  should be able to compile documents with a one-line Makefile
>  containing 'include LaTeX.mk'. Complexe documents (with multiple
>  bibliographies, indexes, glossaries, ...) should be correctly managed.
>  .
>  figlatex.sty: a LaTeX package to easily insert xfig figures (with
>  \includegraphics{file.fig}). It can interact with LaTeX.mk so that the
>  latter automatically invokes transfig if needed.
>  .
>  And various helper tools for LaTeX.mk
>  .
>  Homepage: http://gforge.inria.fr/projects/latex-utils/

That sounds much better.  Some grammar/spelling corrections:
s/complexe/complex/, please don't put a space before the colons. 

>> I rarely use xfig - now this sounds as if the package would indeed
>> include LaTeX macros, or can I use \includegraphics with *.fig files
>> with standard LaTeX?
>
> Does the new description answer correctly the question ?

Yes, just fine.

Be sure to follow the Debian TeX Policy draft in the tex-common package
- but I guess in your case that only means putting the style file at its
proper place, and making the documentation for it available to texdoc.

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Re: Bug#359662: libpcre3-dev doesn't install libpcre.pc, so pkg-config can't find libpcre

2006-03-28 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2006-03-28 Christian Ohm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Package: libpcre3-dev
> Version: 6.4-1.1
> Severity: important

> Hello,

> Like the subject says: The file libpcre.pc isn't installed (though it's
> generated during the build), so any package searching for libpcre via
> pkg-config can't find it even if the development package is installed.
[...]

Hello,
why is this severity important, sounds like wishlist to me.

Is it actually a good thing to ship the pc-file, therefore suggesting
to actually use pkg-config for finding pcre? We have done well
without using it for pcre for three major releases, and I seem to
recall that pkg-config is still a major source for unneeded linking
against indirect dependencies, mainly due to #340904.

Moved to d-d. (I am subscribed, no need to cc me.)
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Re: Bug#357703: udev breaks syslog

2006-03-28 Thread Rich Walker
"Olaf van der Spek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On 3/28/06, sean finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 28, 2006 at 06:15:27PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
>> > Harder than it looks. There are multiple syslog daemons, how can the
>> > package know which one is installed and needs to be restarted?
>>
>> are there really that many syslog daemons (my count is 5)?  why not make
>> a list, fire off invoke-rc.d on each of them during upgrade,
>> and ignore the return codes?  if you really cared i suppose you
>> couldtest before calling invoke-rc.d too, but the point is i
>> don't think it's a great deal of work to do so.
>
> That doesn't sound like a clean solution. :)
> I doubt udev/syslog are the only packages that encounter this situation.

There are a number of situations where one of a selection of packages
can reasonably be installed.

mail transport agent
imap daemon
dns server
proxy server
logging daemon

Presumably, there is a standard way to handle the case of needing to
restart a 1-of-N service handler?

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Bug#359759: ITP: ispman -- ISP Control Panel

2006-03-28 Thread Tim Peeler
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Tim Peeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


* Package name: ispman
  Version : 1.3
  Upstream Author : Armand A. Verstappen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://ispman.net/
* License : GPL
  Description : ISP Control Panel

ISPMan is an ISP management system designed to meet the needs of
the ever growing infrastructure that an ISP has to manage.  It was
originally written to manage DNS, Web Virtual hosts and Mail accounts
at large ISPs.  Since then it has moved to a modular structure with help
from ispman-developers.


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Re: How (not) to write copyright files - take two

2006-03-28 Thread Matthias Julius
Luca Capello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> [Debian Policy Manual]
>
>  12.5 Copyright information
>
>  Every package must be accompanied by a verbatim copy of its copyright
>  and distribution license in the file
>  /usr/share/doc/package/copyright. This file must neither be compressed
>  nor be a symbolic link.
>
>  [...]
>
>  Packages distributed under the UCB BSD license, the Artistic license,
>  the GNU GPL, and the GNU LGPL should refer to the files
>  /usr/share/common-licenses/BSD, /usr/share/common-licenses/Artistic,
>  /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL, and /usr/share/common-licenses/LGPL
>  respectively, rather than quoting them in the copyright file.

Now, Perl and a lot of Perl related packages are licensed under
GPLv1.  Shouldn't Debian provide the text for this one as well?

Matthias


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Re: Bug#357703: udev breaks syslog

2006-03-28 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Tue, Mar 28, 2006 at 06:15:27PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:

> Harder than it looks. There are multiple syslog daemons, how can the
> package know which one is installed and needs to be restarted?

glibc already checks for more than 40 packages and restarts only those
that are installed. I doubt there are that many packages that needs a
restart on udev install/upgrade.

It's true that it is not a clean solution that udev needs to keep track
of the packages that should be restarted, but this method works now
while a more sophisticated method needs someone to design & implement
it.

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Re: Bug#358695: ITP: latex-utils -- utilities for LaTeX/xfig

2006-03-28 Thread Vincent Danjean
  Hi,

Frank Küster wrote:
> Hi Vincent, hi d-d,
> 
> Vincent Danjean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> * Package name: latex-utils
>>   Description : utilities for LaTeX/xfig
> 
> I think the package name is unfortunate, and the short description
> doesn't help much.  "latex-utils" could just as well be a collection of
> nifty LaTeX style files, or something that aids in editing/index
> generation/whatever.  The short description doesn't help much here.
>
>>  This package provides a Makefile to compile LaTeX documents (in ps or pdf),
>>  latex packages to easily include xfig figures in LaTeX documents and various
>>  scripts help the Makefile to correctly and easily handle its job.
>>  .
>>  One great interrest of this package is that it automatically track most of 
>> the
>>  dependencies of the LaTeX document. We should just have to create a Makefile
>>  with the single line 'include LaTeX.mk'
>>  .
>>  Homepage: http://gforge.inria.fr/projects/latex-utils/
> 
>>From this long description, it isn't clear to me whether the "integrate
> xfig more easily" functionality or the LaTeX.mk functionality is the
> core of the package.  Besides, I think the "we should have to" sounds
> weird in english, I'd rather use "One can...".

I retry:

Package name : latex-compile
Description  : easy compiling of complexe (and simple) LaTeX documents
 This package provides several tools that aim to simplify the
 compilation of LaTeX documents :
 .
 LaTeX.mk: a make(1) snippets to help compiling LaTeX documents in
 DVI, PDF, PS, ... format. Dependencies are automatically tracked : one
 should be able to compile documents with a one-line Makefile
 containing 'include LaTeX.mk'. Complexe documents (with multiple
 bibliographies, indexes, glossaries, ...) should be correctly managed.
 .
 figlatex.sty: a LaTeX package to easily insert xfig figures (with
 \includegraphics{file.fig}). It can interact with LaTeX.mk so that the
 latter automatically invokes transfig if needed.
 .
 And various helper tools for LaTeX.mk
 .
 Homepage: http://gforge.inria.fr/projects/latex-utils/

>> Additional notes:
>> -
>> This software differs from latex-mk (that has recently enter the debian
>> archive) in two points :
>> 1) it allows to easily manage .fig files from latex documents
>>   (ie \includegrpahics{foo.fig})
> 
> I rarely use xfig - now this sounds as if the package would indeed
> include LaTeX macros, or can I use \includegraphics with *.fig files
> with standard LaTeX?

Does the new description answer correctly the question ?

>>   I would appreciate any help to improve my description as I am not a
>> native english speaker.
> 
> Me neither, but still willing to help - but we should first clear up the
> content... 

Thank for your comments. I am waiting for the next ones (from you or
others) ;-)

> Regards, Frank

  Best regards,
Vincent


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Re: Bug#359662: libpcre3-dev doesn't install libpcre.pc, so pkg-config can't find libpcre

2006-03-28 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Andreas Metzler said:
> > Like the subject says: The file libpcre.pc isn't installed (though it's
> > generated during the build), so any package searching for libpcre via
> > pkg-config can't find it even if the development package is installed.
> [...]
> 
> Hello,
> why is this severity important, sounds like wishlist to me.
> 
> Is it actually a good thing to ship the pc-file, therefore suggesting
> to actually use pkg-config for finding pcre? We have done well
> without using it for pcre for three major releases, and I seem to
> recall that pkg-config is still a major source for unneeded linking
> against indirect dependencies, mainly due to #340904.

First, yes the bug soundss like a wishlist bug to me.

Second, pkg-config _can_ cause unnecessary linkages, but only if the pc
file has the worng information in it, which would be a bug in itself.
There are fields for libraries or extra include paths that are needed
for dynamic linking, and the same for static linking.  the extra linking
you are referring to is most likely caused by people putting static link
information in the fields designed for dynamic linking.

In and of itself, pkg-config seems like a pretty reasonable thing - it's
just mostly done poorly.
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removal of lukemftpd and lukemftp from debian

2006-03-28 Thread Noah Meyerhans
Hi all.  I sent the following to Takuo KITAME on Monday, 20 March, and
have yet to get a reply.  Please read and comment:

The lukemftpd and lukemftp packages have been replaced upstream by
tnftpd and tnftp [1] and have not seen any maintainer activity since
2002.  [2]

The tnftp package (an ftp client) is in the archive [2], and should
probably replace lukemftp.  It does properly Conflict with and Replace
lukemftp in debian/control.  However, it also does not get any
maintainer support and has had an open RC security bug with an attached
patch for more than 1 year.  I will prepare an NMU of the current
upstream release to fix this bug ASAP.

So, before I file a bug against ftp.debian.org requesting the removal of
the lukemftp* packages, would anybody like to speak up in their defense?
I'm willing to adopt tnftp and package tnftpd so it can replace
lukemftpd, if that's what needs to happen.

noah

1. http://freshmeat.net/projects/tnftpd
   http://freshmeat.net/projects/tnftp
2. http://packages.qa.debian.org/l/lukemftp.html
   http://packages.qa.debian.org/l/lukemftpd.html
3. http://packages.qa.debian.org/t/tnftp.html




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Re: Bug#358695: ITP: latex-utils -- utilities for LaTeX/xfig

2006-03-28 Thread Vincent Danjean
Frank Küster wrote:
> That sounds much better.  Some grammar/spelling corrections:
> s/complexe/complex/, please don't put a space before the colons. 

Ok, thank. I now about the space before the colons but we must put one
in french. And I sometimes I do the wrong thing (in french or in
english).

> Be sure to follow the Debian TeX Policy draft in the tex-common package
> - but I guess in your case that only means putting the style file at its
> proper place, and making the documentation for it available to texdoc.

I only have a few .sty that I cuurently install in
/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/latex-utils/ (will be latex-compile/)
And in my postinst, I use dh_installtex

However, it is the first time I see texdoc. The manpage does not explain
how to make the documentation available. Where can I find more
information ?

  Best regards,
Vincent


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Bug#359662: Info received (was Bug#359662: libpcre3-dev doesn't install libpcre.pc, so pkg-config can't find libpcre)

2006-03-28 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Re: Bug#359662: libpcre3-dev doesn't install libpcre.pc, so pkg-config can't find libpcre

2006-03-28 Thread Christian Ohm
On Tuesday, 28 March 2006 at 19:52, Andreas Metzler wrote:
> why is this severity important, sounds like wishlist to me.

Well, maybe 'important' is too high, but I don't think 'wishlist' really
fits. I have tried to compile a program (the cvs version of cegui) where
./configure checks for libpcre via pkg-config, and doesn't find it, even
after installing the elevopment package. I have manually copied the .pc
file and everything works.

Now what will someone do who doesn't know how to investigate a failed
./configure run? In my opinion this fits the description of 'important'
("a bug which has a major effect on the usability of a package, without
rendering it completely unusable to everyone"), depending on the
definition of 'major'.

> Is it actually a good thing to ship the pc-file, therefore suggesting
> to actually use pkg-config for finding pcre? We have done well
> without using it for pcre for three major releases, and I seem to
> recall that pkg-config is still a major source for unneeded linking
> against indirect dependencies, mainly due to #340904.

I guess that's more for debian-devel, I only know that there are
programs that check for libpcre via pkg-config.

Christian Ohm

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Re: Release Date Update

2006-03-28 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Tollef Fog Heen dijo [Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 01:47:57PM +0100]:
> | The premise is also weak. Man, in the summer, I want to be
> |  out. Day trips. Picnics. Sports. County fairs. Winter is when one
> |  hunkers down in the warmth of the house and codes.
> 
> But in the winter you can go skiing!  In the summer, there's no snow,
> but nice and cool in the basement without having to worry about the
> heat or the icky yellow thing on the sky.

Man, on which world do you live? In the winter there is no snow either
- But in the Summer we have rain, which makes you stay indoors in the
evenings. 

Lets better hurry, freeze now, release by June, and go looney during
Summertime! 

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Wrong comparisons [was: etch before vista]

2006-03-28 Thread Gunnar Wolf
A Mennucc dijo [Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 07:41:39PM +0100]:
> hi everybody
> 
> According to the latest [1] Microsoft announcement, Vista will be released
> in Jan 2007; according to our schedule [2],  Etch may be released in Dec 2006.
> 
> If we accomplish it, it will be a great feat: Debian will (possibly)
> show it is able to relase two versions of its distribution since Jul
> 2002 (= woody release); whereas Microsoft seems unable to release its
> own O.S. (even though XP has been out since Dec 2001, if I recall
> correctly).
> 
> Yes guys, it means
> (...pseudo-stats...)
> Amazing.

Hi,

Free and propietary software development are two beasts so far apart
and so different in means, in scope and almost in every conceivable
sense that I have to answer to your mail ;-)

Don't try to compare "us" and "them". Don't try to turn it into a
race. What if we win? What if we lose? Is OpenBSD better because it
releases more often and they write all of the code (to their base
system)? Are we worse because we take so damn long to release a new
stable version, even if we just fix the bugs and package the software
but don't always write it ourselves? Then Apple should die quite soon,
as MacOS X has not seen a major update since it was born, over six
years ago (it was 2000, right?)

Different software development projects, different developer
communities and different operating systems as a whole cater to
different needs. Sometimes we can -carefully- measure certain aspects
against each other, but if we want to be fair, if we don't want to be
judged as FUD-machines, we should avoid hollow comparisons as this
one. 

Some time ago, I defended Debian's long release cycle by pointing out
the average user does not like to change - After all, Windows 98 is
still too common everywhere (and I could still say so today, as about
half of my Institute's PCs run Win98)... But I would not claim the
same today. Once again, Windows and Debian are both operating systems,
have both their advantages and disadvantages, but have clearly
different intentions.

How can we then measure up against Evil Propietary Software? Well,
start by believing we are morally superior (which I do believe). Look
at the sheer amount of code, and the average quality of two similar
pieces of software. Yes, sometimes we will win, sometimes we will
lose, but Free Software is maturing and becoming attractive every day
for more people.

Oh! And the best thing: If you want Debian(/Linux/*BSD/whatever) to
beat Windows(/MacOS/HPUX/whatever), there is something very easy you
can do: Code, document, report, fix, translate, meet, facilitate.

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Re: Release Date Update

2006-03-28 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Gunnar Wolf may or may not have written...

> Tollef Fog Heen dijo [Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 01:47:57PM +0100]:
>>> The premise is also weak. Man, in the summer, I want to be out. Day
>>> trips. Picnics. Sports. County fairs. Winter is when one hunkers down in
>>> the warmth of the house and codes.
>> But in the winter you can go skiing!  In the summer, there's no snow, but
>> nice and cool in the basement without having to worry about the heat or
>> the icky yellow thing on the sky.

> Man, on which world do you live? In the winter there is no snow either -

So... you're saying that that cold white crystalline stuff which fell last
month, lay around for a few days then disappeared, leaving behind what looked
suspiciously like wet ground *wasn't* snow?

> But in the Summer we have rain, which makes you stay indoors in the
> evenings.

Probably. Or maybe the rest of the day too, if you're *really* lucky.

> Lets better hurry, freeze now,

Were there less cloud cover here right now, probably. ;-)

> release by June, and go looney during Summertime!

"That's all, folks!"

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Re: Maintainers Guide

2006-03-28 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Tue, Mar 28, 2006 at 03:51:30PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote:

> Only for some pretty strange values of "worthless". AFAIU the only
> legal effect of the notice requirements you cite is as defined by
> subsection (d): if a compliant notice is present, a defendant is
> excluded from the defense that he did not understand that the work was
> copyrighted.

Well, isn't prohibiting the "I didn't know it is copyrighted" defence
the only legal effect of having the notice nowadays, anyway?


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Bug#359824: ITP: mezogis -- a graphical interface to query and analyse spatial data from postgis

2006-03-28 Thread alex bodnaru
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: alex bodnaru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


* Package name: mezogis
  Version : 0.1.1
  Upstream Author : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://www.stambouliote.de/mezogis/
* License : GPL
  Description : a GUI to query and analyse spatial data from postgis

mezoGIS is a GIS application, a graphical interface to query and analyse 
spatial data. mezoGIS does not store or compute data directly, but operates 
external PostGIS databases. The goal of mezoGIS is to provide a tool for 
geo-spatial analysis with PostGIS, through on-the-fly SQL queries as well as 
through larger, external plugin scripts.


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Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.15-1-686-smp
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ANSI_X3.4-1968)


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Re: When to drop/split/summ changelog files

2006-03-28 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Nico Golde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Yes for sure, but useless zipped information is useless 
> anyway.

And you know it's useless how?


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Re: idea for project machines

2006-03-28 Thread Ganesan Rajagopal
> Christoph Berg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I was ranting about that on irc before, and was told that this is 1)
> considered to be a security risk and 2) not worth the effort. The
> additional concern I had was that an automatic solution would put less
> load on DSA.

How about providing this access only in a Xen guest? I know we don't have
Xen enabled kernels in the official repository yet, but this seems to be a
feasible approach in the near future.

Ganesan

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Re: Bug#359340: ITP: opencity -- a 3D city simulator game

2006-03-28 Thread Brian May
On Tue, Mar 28, 2006 at 12:15:25AM +0200, Gonéri Le Bouder wrote:
> OpenCity is a city simulator game project written in standard C++
>  with OpenGL and SDL from scratch. It is not intended to be a clone
>  of any famous city simulator from Max*s. So, if you are looking to
>  download a free SimCity 4 like, forget OpenCity.

err... Could the extended description possibly say more along the lines
of what the packages does do as opposed to what it doesn't do?
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Re: Bug#358695: ITP: latex-utils -- utilities for LaTeX/xfig

2006-03-28 Thread Frank Küster
Vincent Danjean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I only have a few .sty that I cuurently install in
> /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/latex-utils/ (will be latex-compile/)
> And in my postinst, I use dh_installtex

Do you need to register "map files, new formats, and new languages
with TeX"?  That's the purpose of dh_installtex.  Otherwise just call
mktexlsr (or "mktexlsr /usr/share/texmf/" if you install only there).

> However, it is the first time I see texdoc. The manpage does not explain
> how to make the documentation available. Where can I find more
> information ?

file:///usr/share/doc/tex-common/Debian-TeX-Policy.html/ch3.html#s-sec-documentation

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