Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi

On Fri, 09 May 2014, Josh Triplett wrote:
 debconf prompt on every Debian user; we should not assume that because
 *we* care, *they're* required to care.  In practice, people will test

I strongly disagree with this opinion. From personal experience
I know several people who are not developers of Debian, but are
technically interested, and they *do* care a lot.
And they are searching for alternative distributions without systemd.

One of the things that systemd breaks (not checked on Debian, but
on other systems), is that screen session are killed when logging out
of the ssh session.

This is a *fundamental* change in behaviour, and does break a lot
of setups and systems.

So I *strongly* advise to inform *and* ask the users!!

Norbert


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Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2014-05-09, Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org wrote:
 I don't think systemd integration is in a state today that this is ready to
 become the default.

I don't think I have an opinion of the exact state today other than
'works for me in most cases', but I do think we are quite late in the
process for making it default. We only have half a year to iron out all
the quirks  -  including the quirks needed for a automatic upgrade from
sysvinit to systemd.

/Sune


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Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Manoj Srivastava

#secure method=pgpmime mode=sign
On Fri, May 09 2014, Russ Allbery wrote:

 Josh Triplett j...@joshtriplett.org writes:
 Russ Allbery wrote:

 I think we need some sort of critical debconf prompt here for the
 jessie release, similar to how we handled the change of /bin/sh to dash
 and how we handled the switch to startpar.  Probably in systemd-sysv,
 which is the package that forces the conversion.  It's quite surprising
 to, for example, install network-manager (which is an application that
 ca be used with non-GNOME window managers) and end up with a new init
 system.

 I strongly disagree: if the maintainers of the various packages have
 done their jobs well (which they have), upgrading should be entirely
 transparent.

When things are working well, of course there is little to worry
 about. I myself got converted and did not notice. But there is more to
 this than the happy lane: What happens  when the init system breaks? I
 am currently very familiar with sysvinit, and am comfortable debugging
 and hacking at shell scripts to get my system back in single user
 mode.

   Am I similarly knowledgeable about recovering a sick systemd
 environment? No, not yet, I am not. I do mean to learn about it at some
 point, perhaps soon. But  by pushing ahead the timetable, I have been
 left with a system I am not at all confident of being able to debug and
 fix. Not asking me has led to a gap in my disaster recovery
 preparedness :P

I do not think silently swapping out a critical piece of
 infrastructure, where the underlying technology is so different,
 without asking is serving our users well.

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Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Michael Biebl 

  i.e. does /etc/default/rcS exist on a clean jessie install?
 
 That file is owned by initscripts, so no, that doesn't work.

We could check if /sbin/init is a symlink to systemd (or if /proc/1/exe
points to systemd) and if not warn.  I think that will catch the normal
cases.

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Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 09 May 2014 20:30:22 +0200, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org
wrote:
Am 09.05.2014 19:56, schrieb Steve Langasek:
 I don't think systemd integration is in a state today that this is ready to
 become the default.

What are you missing?

For example, keyscript= in /etc/crypttab. I got systemd just by not
paying attention, and in result an unbootable system since my crypto
setup heavily relies on keyscript=. Thankfully it was only a test VM
that got borked that way before I dared touching production.

Will it be the norm that the binaries replacing well-used shell
scripts on early boot only implement the features that Lennart deemed
useful? That would be a major turn-off, adding to the fact that early
boot will become undebuggable since one will not be able any more to
dump -x'es in shell scripts to see what's going on.

Greetings
Marc
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Re: How to go back to sysvinit (was: Re: systemd-fsck?)

2014-05-10 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 09 May 2014 13:09:24 +0200, Ansgar Burchardt
ans...@debian.org wrote:
On 05/09/2014 12:35, Svante Signell wrote:
 Well, I've not been asked if I wanted to switch to systemd based boot
 when upgrading. I think this is a bug in init system choice and should
 be reported. How to go back to sysvinit?

Please ask on one of the support mailing lists (CC'ed).

We definetely should have a -unstable-user mailing list. -user is
unreadable. I have unsubscribed years ago. And most systemd related
questions are uninteresting and confusing to users of stable who are
the real audience of -user.

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libpng and next release

2014-05-10 Thread Norbert Preining
Dear release managers, dear libpng maintainers, all DD

I would like to find a resolution of the currently very 
unfortunate state of libpng in Debian. 

We have
* libpng 1.2 in stable, testing, unstable
* libpng 1.6 in experimental, but not providing libpng-dev

If we continue like this, the next release will continue to have
libpng 1.2 as default, including *all* depending libraries.

I myself am forced to include copies of 5 libraries in the 
next upload of TeX Live if this is not resolved, as upstream 
requires libpng 1.4 or above.

After asking the libpng maintainers on their opinion on the
future of libpng in Debian, I haven't received any answer now.

I have offered the maintainers to do rebuild tests with 1.6, 
above the ones I have done by now, but I am feeling that there
is no impetus to change the situation.

Thus, I am asking both the release managers and the libpng maintainers:
* what is the future of libpng in Debian, especially for the next
  release?
* How will ftpmasters/security handle the packages that will include
  embedded copies of libraries for packages that require a more recent
  libpng?

As mentioned, I am more than open to help in the transition, test
build other libs and progs, but as long as there is no decision from
the libpng *what* should be in jessie it is a vain efford.

Thanks for your consideration

Norbert

On Fri, 02 May 2014, Norbert Preining wrote:
 Dear all,
 
 it is high time that we go forward with transitioning libpng-dev
 to version 1.6. That means, not only uploading libpng1.6, but 
 *replacing* libpng in unstable with the new version.
 
 If we plan to have this ready for November freeze of jessie, we
 need to get started *now*!
 
  Major package of most is the state that can be migrated to libpng1.6.
 
 I agree, for TeX Live building purposes I have rebuilt several 
 package with libpng1.6, namely libgd2, freetype, cairo, jbig2dec,
 and ghostscript (all the deps necessary for texlive building).
 There were no problems with that.
 
 I am also volunteering to rebuild and test other packages, but
 as long as there is no declared wish of the libpng developers
 it is wasted times.
 
 So, please, let me know, *what* are your plans concerning jessie?
 Should jessie ship with libpng 1.6 as default or 1.2?
 
 If you want to transition, what are the next steps? My suggestion is:
 * upload a libpng-dev (NOT libpng16) replacement to *experimental*
 * test all packages for binNMU
 * try to fix the failed packages, mass bug filing
 * give some head way
 * upload to unstable
 
 I think the *first* and *most*important* step is that we upload a
 replacement libpng-dev based on 1.6 to *experimental*. This is a
 sign that we are planning to transition.
 
 But again, libpng developers, please let me know your plans!
 I *really* want to help to get this transition going!
 
 Thanks
 
 Norbert


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Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Norbert Preining
On Sat, 10 May 2014, Marc Haber wrote:
 boot will become undebuggable since one will not be able any more to
 dump -x'es in shell scripts to see what's going on.

+10^20

Norbert


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Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Salvo Tomaselli

 What are you missing?
I am still missing the part of my logs that gets chopped off.

#746351

(I know it's fixed in experimental, but I don't want to get important stuff 
from experimental).

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copyrighted embedded ICC profiles in images

2014-05-10 Thread Jérémy Lal
Hi,

Jonas Smedegaard brought to my attention that an image file [0]
can embed a copyrighted ICC profile without license.

Since it's something that not many people seems to be aware of,
maybe it might be useful to have a lintian check for that.

That command [1] shows positives on my /usr/share/
Most of them are HP or Apple embedded profiles.

Regards,
Jérémy


[0]
http://www.color.org/profile_embedding.xalter
[1]
find . -regextype posix-extended -iregex '.*\.(jpg|png)' -exec sh -c
'identify -verbose $0 | grep -i copyright  echo $0' {} \;

(this shows also false positives with an empty Copyright field).




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Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi,

Marc Haber:
 Will it be the norm that the binaries replacing well-used shell
 scripts on early boot only implement the features that Lennart deemed
 useful? That would be a major turn-off, adding to the fact that early
 boot will become undebuggable since one will not be able any more to
 dump -x'es in shell scripts to see what's going on.

This begs one question: Why would you want to?

systemctl status tells you quite clearly what went wrong, journalctl
shows you what the program printed in case it did get started … and so on.

If you manage not to get a login prompt, enable debug.service and you'll
have a root shell on TTY 9. systemctl has even grown a --root argument,
so you can do that to a mounted file system if you can't get even get an
emergency prompt, or you can use it from the kernel command line.

This is a whole lot easier than munging random shell scripts or, worse,
booting with /bin/bash as PID1.

Sticking -x into scripts was a major PITA from the beginning. It grew
even more pains as init-functions and colorful prompts came along, and I
for one am VERY happy to finally get rid of that kind of debugging.

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Bug#747597: ITP: lxqt-config -- LXQt system settings center

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Bug#747596: ITP: liblxqt-mount -- Library used to manage removable devices for LXDE-Qt

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Bug#747598: ITP: lxqt-config-randr -- Qt config GUI for X11 RandR for LXQt system settings

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Bug#747599: ITP: lxqt-common -- Common files for LXQt

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Bug#747602: ITP: lxqt-notificationd -- The LXQt notification daemon

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Bug#747600: ITP: lxqt-about -- The standalone LXQt About dialog

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Bug#747601: ITP: lxqt-globalkeys -- Daemon used to register global keyboard shortcuts

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Bug#747603: ITP: lxqt-openssh-askpass -- OpenSSH user/password GUI dialog for LXQt

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Bug#747604: ITP: lxqt-qtplugin -- LXDE-Qt platform integration plugin for Qt

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Bug#747605: ITP: pcmanfm-qt -- File manager and desktop icon manager (Qt port of PCManFM and libfm)

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Bug#747607: ITP: lxqt-policykit -- The LXQt PolicyKit agent

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Bug#747608: ITP: lxqt-session -- An alternative session manager ported from the original razor-session

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Bug#747610: ITP: lxqt-panel -- The LXQt desktop panel

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Bug#747611: ITP: lxqt-powermanagement -- Power management module for LXQt

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Bug#747613: ITP: lxqt-runner -- Tool used to launch programs quickly by typing their names

2014-05-10 Thread 李健秋
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Andrew Lee (李健秋) ajq...@debian.org

* Package name: lxqt-runner
  Version : 0.7.0
  Upstream Author : LXQt team lxde-l...@lists.sourceforge.net
* URL : http://lxqt.org
* License : (GPL, LGPL)
  Programming Lang: (C++)
  Description : Tool used to launch programs quickly by typing their names

(long description would come later.)


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Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Svante Signell
On Fri, 2014-05-09 at 20:39 -0700, Josh Triplett wrote:
 Russ Allbery wrote:
  ...
  I think we need some sort of critical debconf prompt here for the jessie
  release, similar to how we handled the change of /bin/sh to dash and how
  we handled the switch to startpar.  Probably in systemd-sysv, which is the
  package that forces the conversion.  It's quite surprising to, for
  example, install network-manager (which is an application that ca be used
  with non-GNOME window managers) and end up with a new init system.
 
 I strongly disagree: if the maintainers of the various packages have
 done their jobs well (which they have), upgrading should be entirely
 transparent.
...

Why did you downgrade bug #747535 to wishlist? The discussion is
ongoing, and no solution has found consensus yet.

In further replies, please add the bug number to the Cc: list



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Bug#747618: ITP: festvox-us-slt-hts -- US English voice for Festival. 32kHz sample rate, HTS

2014-05-10 Thread Sergio Oller
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Sergio Oller sergiol...@gmail.com

* Package name: festvox-us-slt-hts
  Version : 2010.10.25
  Upstream Author :  Alan W Black a...@cs.cmu.edu
* URL : http://festvox.org/voicedemos.html
* License : MIT/X11-like
  Programming Lang: scheme
  Description : US English voice for Festival. 32kHz sample rate, HTS


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Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Norbert Preining
severity 747535 serious
thanks

 Why did you downgrade bug #747535 to wishlist? The discussion is
 ongoing, and no solution has found consensus yet.

I agree, raising the severity.

If one (Josh) thinks that is fine, that doesn't mean it is fine.

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Bug#747620: ITP: liblxqt -- Core utility library for all LXDE-Qt components

2014-05-10 Thread 李健秋
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Andrew Lee (李健秋) ajq...@debian.org

* Package name: liblxqt
  Version : 0.7.0
  Upstream Author : LXQt team lxde-l...@lists.sourceforge.net
* URL : http://lxqt.org
* License : (GPL, LGPL)
  Programming Lang: (C++)
  Description : Core utility library for all LXDE-Qt components

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Bug#747621: ITP: libthread-sigmask-perl -- thread specific signal masks

2014-05-10 Thread gregor herrmann
Package: wnpp
Owner: gregor herrmann gre...@debian.org
Severity: wishlist
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-p...@lists.debian.org

* Package name: libthread-sigmask-perl
  Version : 0.004
  Upstream Author : Leon Timmermans le...@cpan.org
* URL : https://metacpan.org/release/Thread-SigMask
* License : Artistic or GPL-1+
  Programming Lang: Perl
  Description : thread specific signal masks

Thread::SigMask provides per-thread signal masks. On non-threaded perls it
will be effectively the same as POSIX::sigprocmask. The interface works
exactly the same as sigprocmask.


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Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 9. Mai 2014, 20:30:22 schrieb Michael Biebl:
 Am 09.05.2014 19:56, schrieb Steve Langasek:
  I don't think systemd integration is in a state today that this is ready
  to
  become the default.
 
 What are you missing?

Suitable explaination and reaction to bug reports like:

polkit-kde-1: requires root password for hibernate, wrongly reports other 
users are logged on
http://bugs.debian.org/727645


This last time I tested still breaks hibernation for any users of a full KDE 
installation including dirmngr. *Months* after it was reported.

I saw a work-around / partly fix posted which I missed before, by changing

output=$(su -c . /lib/lsb/init-functions  umask 027  start_daemon -p 
$PIDFILE $DAEMON --daemon --sh dirmngr) || return 1

in /etc/init.d/dirmngr to start-stop-daemon[1]. I will try this and report 
back to the bug report.


Still on reporting this bug as well [2] like this I got the impression of 
being told: Go away, the bug is elsewhere, I don´t care. Basically you just 
told me that policy-kit just does what it is setup to do[3]. Yet with 
installing systemd it hibernation in full KDE setups breaks and with a user 
hat on – I contributed a few Debian packages – I just don´t care where this is 
to be fixed. I was baffled at being told that this behaviour is supposed to be 
there by design and got the impression that I was expected to put up with it.

While such a bug is still unfixed in packages I think its not suitable to make 
systemd a default as I expressed here[4]. Unless you want users of unstable 
and testing to be annoyed with systemd.

I accept that the fix may lay elsewhere, but I found your responses to not be 
helpful at all.

Maybe that is my biggest concern with the systemd stuff. The defensive reaction 
to feedback and bug reports I perceived with upstream and debian developers 
which I partly understand given the bashing the systemd side received. I may 
have used an unsuitable tone at times as well, and I am sorry for that, but 
being told Go away just doesn´t match the responsibility for dealing with 
issues with something that is a default for all users who don´t change it. 
systemd as a default needs a different reaction to bug reports than this.



[1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=727645#45

[2] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=727645#20

[3] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=717731#10

[4] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=727645#50

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Bug#747623: ITP: libsignal-mask-perl -- module for easy handling of signal masks

2014-05-10 Thread gregor herrmann
Package: wnpp
Owner: gregor herrmann gre...@debian.org
Severity: wishlist
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-p...@lists.debian.org

* Package name: libsignal-mask-perl
  Version : 0.007
  Upstream Author : Leon Timmermans faw...@gmail.com
* URL : https://metacpan.org/release/Signal-Mask
* License : Artistic or GPL-1+
  Programming Lang: Perl
  Description : module for easy handling of signal masks

Signal::Mask is an abstraction around your process or thread signal mask. It
is used to fetch and/or change the signal mask of the calling process or
thread. The signal mask is the set of signals whose delivery is currently
blocked for the caller. It is available as the global hash %Signal::Mask.

Signal::Pending is an abstraction around your process'/thread's pending
signals. It can be used in combination with signal masks to handle signals in
a controlled manner. The set of pending signals is available as the global
hash %Signal::Pending.


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Re: copyrighted embedded ICC profiles in images

2014-05-10 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sat, 2014-05-10 at 11:10 +0200, Jérémy Lal wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Jonas Smedegaard brought to my attention that an image file [0]
 can embed a copyrighted ICC profile without license.
[...]

This sounds like a ludicrous overreach of copyright.  Isn't an ICC
descriptive, rather than creative?  And the idea that vendors could
claim images made with their products (very likely with no explicit
action to use the profile) to be derivative works is appalling.

Ben.

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Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Martin, hi all,

 being told Go away just doesn´t match the responsibility for dealing with 
 issues with something that is a default for all users who don´t change it. 

Indeed, and that is the feeling all around. Systemd developers
often (by default?) tell people to go away - you don't have commit rights.
I mentioned this before, here on the list, and elsewhere [1]. Is this
the upstream we as Debian want to work with? It seems yes, because the
responsible Debian developers for this piece of software behave the
same way - go away.

I mentioned this before in a G+ discussion [2] - devs of programs high
up in the dependency chain (i.e., not leafs like editors etc) have
a higher responsibility. Unfortunately neither systemd upstream,
in particular L. Poettering and K. Sievers, nor the Debian devs 
seem to have grasped the far-reaching responsabilities they have
taken over.

That said, I have to exclude (at least) *one* member of the
systemd dev team, Tom Gundersen, who has answered in proper ways,
explaining problems, and pro-actively taking action. Big hurray 
to him.

Norbert

[1] https://www.preining.info/blog/2014/04/debian-systemd-heading-abyss/
[2] https://plus.google.com/u/0/115547683951727699051/posts/VYRaUuh1tkt


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Re: copyrighted embedded ICC profiles in images

2014-05-10 Thread Jérémy Lal
Le samedi 10 mai 2014 à 13:37 +0100, Ben Hutchings a écrit :
 On Sat, 2014-05-10 at 11:10 +0200, Jérémy Lal wrote:
  Hi,
  
  Jonas Smedegaard brought to my attention that an image file [0]
  can embed a copyrighted ICC profile without license.
 [...]
 
 This sounds like a ludicrous overreach of copyright.  Isn't an ICC
 descriptive, rather than creative?  And the idea that vendors could
 claim images made with their products (very likely with no explicit
 action to use the profile) to be derivative works is appalling.

On [2] one can find some examples of licenses one embedded icc profile
can be put under:

 To anyone who acknowledges that the files 
 sRGB_IEC61966-2-1_no_black_scaling.icc and sRGB_IEC61966-2-1_black 
 scaled.icc are provided AS IS WITH NO EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTY, 
 permission to use, copy and distribute these file for any purpose is 
 hereby granted without fee, provided that the files are not changed 
 including the ICC copyright notice tag, and that the name of ICC shall 
 not be used in advertising or publicity pertaining to distribution of 
 the software without specific, written prior permission. ICC makes no 
 representations about the suitability of this software for any purpose.

So, even if the license was distributed along with the image using it,
this license clearly violates DFSG 3 (here, no modifications of embedded
icc profile are allowed).

Jérémy.


[2]
http://www.color.org/srgbprofiles.xalter



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Re: copyrighted embedded ICC profiles in images

2014-05-10 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Ben Hutchings (2014-05-10 14:37:35)
 On Sat, 2014-05-10 at 11:10 +0200, Jérémy Lal wrote:
 Jonas Smedegaard brought to my attention that an image file [0] can 
 embed a copyrighted ICC profile without license.
 [...]

 This sounds like a ludicrous overreach of copyright.  Isn't an ICC 
 descriptive, rather than creative?  And the idea that vendors could 
 claim images made with their products (very likely with no explicit 
 action to use the profile) to be derivative works is appalling.

I see it as two works embedded into same container: If a camera embeds a 
copyright-protected ICC profile each time is generates a JFIF file, I 
would consider only the ICC profile protected by that copyright, not the 
image data also embedded into same file.

I believe Debian cannot ship the contents of Debian package icc-profiles 
in main.

I believe it violates DFSG to ship e.g. JFIF or GIF files which contains 
copyright-protected but not freely licensed ICC profiles.

I believe it does not violate DFSG to ship e.g. JFIF or GIF files which 
was upstream distributed with copyright-protected but not freely 
licensed ICC profiles, if repackaged to strip those ICC profiles.

In many (but not all - need active decision by package maintainer) 
cases, ICC profiles can simply be stripped with no practical loss of 
functionality or quality.


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Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Martin Steigerwald
[I kept your Cc, I don´t need to be Cc´d tough as I am subscribed to the 
list.)

Am Samstag, 10. Mai 2014, 21:21:30 schrieb Norbert Preining:
 Hi Martin, hi all,
 
  being told Go away just doesn´t match the responsibility for dealing
  with
  issues with something that is a default for all users who don´t change it.
 
 Indeed, and that is the feeling all around. Systemd developers
 often (by default?) tell people to go away - you don't have commit rights.
 I mentioned this before, here on the list, and elsewhere [1]. Is this
 the upstream we as Debian want to work with? It seems yes, because the
 responsible Debian developers for this piece of software behave the
 same way - go away.
 
 I mentioned this before in a G+ discussion [2] - devs of programs high
 up in the dependency chain (i.e., not leafs like editors etc) have
 a higher responsibility. Unfortunately neither systemd upstream,
 in particular L. Poettering and K. Sievers, nor the Debian devs
 seem to have grasped the far-reaching responsabilities they have
 taken over.

Just so that it is clear:

I did not make a technical statement about systemd. I understand the reasons 
why Tech-CTTE chose it and while I am skeptical about the attitude of some 
upstream and Debian developers regarding handling bug reports and feedback, I 
am not generally opposed to it. I test drove it for some months some time ago, 
before hibernation was broken when it is in use, and mostly enjoyed the test 
drive.

So please don´t use my feedback for any general anti systemd agenda. I am not 
opposed to it. But it for it to be default certain criteria are not yet met. 
In my eyes partly still open grave bugs and partly the handling or not 
handling of them. I wish that systemd upstream developers and Debian packagers 
adopt the never break userspace mantra of the kernel developers as never 
break applications and application oriented services and if you do take bug 
reports seriously. Cause for me systemd is a system component. Yes, it lives 
in otherspace, but it is so lowlevel that for me it is part of the system 
which provides services to application (just like the kernel does).

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Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Laurent Bigonville
Martin Steigerwald wrote:
 Am Freitag, 9. Mai 2014, 20:30:22 schrieb Michael Biebl:
  Am 09.05.2014 19:56, schrieb Steve Langasek:
   I don't think systemd integration is in a state today that this
   is ready to
   become the default.
  
  What are you missing?
 
 Suitable explaination and reaction to bug reports like:
 
 polkit-kde-1: requires root password for hibernate, wrongly reports
 other users are logged on
 http://bugs.debian.org/727645
 
 
 This last time I tested still breaks hibernation for any users of a
 full KDE installation including dirmngr. *Months* after it was
 reported.
 
 I saw a work-around / partly fix posted which I missed before, by
 changing
 
 output=$(su -c . /lib/lsb/init-functions  umask 027 
 start_daemon -p $PIDFILE $DAEMON --daemon --sh dirmngr) || return 1
 
 in /etc/init.d/dirmngr to start-stop-daemon[1]. I will try this and
 report back to the bug report.
 
 
 Still on reporting this bug as well [2] like this I got the
 impression of being told: Go away, the bug is elsewhere, I don´t
 care. Basically you just told me that policy-kit just does what it
 is setup to do[3]. Yet with installing systemd it hibernation in full
 KDE setups breaks and with a user hat on – I contributed a few Debian
 packages – I just don´t care where this is to be fixed. I was baffled
 at being told that this behaviour is supposed to be there by design
 and got the impression that I was expected to put up with it.
 
 While such a bug is still unfixed in packages I think its not
 suitable to make systemd a default as I expressed here[4]. Unless you
 want users of unstable and testing to be annoyed with systemd.
 
 I accept that the fix may lay elsewhere, but I found your responses
 to not be helpful at all.
 
 Maybe that is my biggest concern with the systemd stuff. The
 defensive reaction to feedback and bug reports I perceived with
 upstream and debian developers which I partly understand given the
 bashing the systemd side received. I may have used an unsuitable tone
 at times as well, and I am sorry for that, but being told Go away
 just doesn´t match the responsibility for dealing with issues with
 something that is a default for all users who don´t change it.
 systemd as a default needs a different reaction to bug reports than
 this.

The root cause of this bug is in the initscript of dirmngr that us using
su instead of start-stop-daemon.

su is starting a PAM session which then call pam_systemd. This
should not happen for daemons.

Again here systemd is only doing what he's instructed to do; not
allowing a user to create a DOS for other logged in users. So please
get dirmngr fixed instead of blaming systemd/logind. I've reopened the
initial bug opened against dirmngr about the fact that the initscript
is calling su (#668890)

Cheers,

Laurent Bigonville


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change is hard and feared upon (Re: systemd-fsck?)

2014-05-10 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Samstag, 10. Mai 2014, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
  Will it be the norm that the binaries replacing well-used shell
  scripts on early boot only implement the features that Lennart deemed
  useful? That would be a major turn-off, adding to the fact that early
  boot will become undebuggable since one will not be able any more to
  dump -x'es in shell scripts to see what's going on.
 
 This begs one question: Why would you want to?

because I'm old and I have my habits and learned things and now I dont want to 
learn new things and change my behavours. Thats scary and frightenend.

(I spoke in the first person singular here, but thats not me...)

Fear of change is not rational and this whole systemd debate is an 
excellent example for this. 

 systemctl status tells you quite clearly what went wrong, journalctl
 shows you what the program printed in case it did get started … and so on.

systemctl is not mentioned on https://wiki.debian.org/systemd - maybe it 
should?

 If you manage not to get a login prompt, enable debug.service and you'll
 have a root shell on TTY 9. systemctl has even grown a --root argument,
 so you can do that to a mounted file system if you can't get even get an
 emergency prompt, or you can use it from the kernel command line.

enabling debug.service is not mentioned on https://wiki.debian.org/systemd - 
maybe it should?

 This is a whole lot easier than munging random shell scripts or, worse,
 booting with /bin/bash as PID1.

but thats how it ever was, so it must be right!!111/irony

 Sticking -x into scripts was a major PITA from the beginning. It grew
 even more pains as init-functions and colorful prompts came along, and I
 for one am VERY happy to finally get rid of that kind of debugging.

indeed. 


cheers,
Holger, slightly feed up with the never ending debate (and the 
trolls 
attached to the topic and people arguing with them...)
maybe I should just unsubscribe from -devel until after jessie 
has
been released... or automark all mails as read which contain 
the 
string systemd on -devel...


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Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Norbert Preining
On Sat, 10 May 2014, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
 [I kept your Cc, I don´t need to be Cc´d tough as I am subscribed to the 
 list.)

[So am I ;-)]

 I did not make a technical statement about systemd. I understand the reasons 

Neither did I. My statement was about the attitude of (especially,
but not exclusively) the upstream maintainers of systemd.

 handling of them. I wish that systemd upstream developers and Debian 
 packagers 
 adopt the never break userspace mantra of the kernel developers as never 

Ohh, I agree, that would be nice... try to convince LP.

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Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 10. Mai 2014, 15:36:26 schrieben Sie:
 Martin Steigerwald wrote:
  Am Freitag, 9. Mai 2014, 20:30:22 schrieb Michael Biebl:
   Am 09.05.2014 19:56, schrieb Steve Langasek:
I don't think systemd integration is in a state today that this
is ready to
become the default.
   
   What are you missing?
  
  Suitable explaination and reaction to bug reports like:
  
  polkit-kde-1: requires root password for hibernate, wrongly reports
  other users are logged on
  http://bugs.debian.org/727645
  
  
  This last time I tested still breaks hibernation for any users of a
  full KDE installation including dirmngr. *Months* after it was
  reported.
  
  I saw a work-around / partly fix posted which I missed before, by
  changing
  
  output=$(su -c . /lib/lsb/init-functions  umask 027 
  start_daemon -p $PIDFILE $DAEMON --daemon --sh dirmngr) || return 1
  
  in /etc/init.d/dirmngr to start-stop-daemon[1]. I will try this and
  report back to the bug report.
  
  
  Still on reporting this bug as well [2] like this I got the
  impression of being told: Go away, the bug is elsewhere, I don´t
  care. Basically you just told me that policy-kit just does what it
  is setup to do[3]. Yet with installing systemd it hibernation in full
  KDE setups breaks and with a user hat on – I contributed a few Debian
  packages – I just don´t care where this is to be fixed. I was baffled
  at being told that this behaviour is supposed to be there by design
  and got the impression that I was expected to put up with it.
  
  While such a bug is still unfixed in packages I think its not
  suitable to make systemd a default as I expressed here[4]. Unless you
  want users of unstable and testing to be annoyed with systemd.
  
  I accept that the fix may lay elsewhere, but I found your responses
  to not be helpful at all.
  
  Maybe that is my biggest concern with the systemd stuff. The
  defensive reaction to feedback and bug reports I perceived with
  upstream and debian developers which I partly understand given the
  bashing the systemd side received. I may have used an unsuitable tone
  at times as well, and I am sorry for that, but being told Go away
  just doesn´t match the responsibility for dealing with issues with
  something that is a default for all users who don´t change it.
  systemd as a default needs a different reaction to bug reports than
  this.
 
 The root cause of this bug is in the initscript of dirmngr that us using
 su instead of start-stop-daemon.
 
 su is starting a PAM session which then call pam_systemd. This
 should not happen for daemons.
 
 Again here systemd is only doing what he's instructed to do; not
 allowing a user to create a DOS for other logged in users. So please
 get dirmngr fixed instead of blaming systemd/logind. I've reopened the
 initial bug opened against dirmngr about the fact that the initscript
 is calling su (#668890)

Thats exactly the kind of reaction I meant:

Frankly, I just *don´t* care where it is fixed. If its in dirmngr, fine.

Yet: I do think its about high time systemd developers and packagers adopt an 
attitude of never break userspace like the kernel developers do.

The plain fact:

Using systemd breaks something that worked for probably a decade or longer 
before however long that su is in that init script. So on what account do you 
call calling su in an init script a bug? It may not be the most elegant 
solution to do things, granted, but a bug? Come on. Calling it a bug just 
cause systemd / policykit treat calling su in an initscript as they do is 
quite arrogant in my eyes.

Telling Go away, the bug is elsewhere is just not an approbiate reaction  
for developers of a low level system component. Approbiate in my eyes would be 
caring and helping along with the issue to be fixed no matter where the fix 
will 
land in. I.e. provide help and a patch for dirmngr, or even a systemd service 
file, instead of getting systemd installed via some apt-get dist-upgrade and 
look at what breaks if its clear before hand that hibernation for any user of 
a full KDE installation is included in the list of breakages.

Thats it.

Additional to that: su does not by itself create another seat. Its still the 
same laptop. One keyboard, one display, *one* seat. Even if I run a ten 
different desktop sessions with ten different users on it, its just *one* seat. 
Which means that when I tell to hibernate, there is just no other user around 
who can be asked whether they are fine with it.

It would be different with an application server where many people log in, it 
may be different with SSH sessions opened, but this is *just* a laptop. Well 
but this is all in the bug reports I mentioned.

Again, I am not ranting about any technicalities here. I am ranting about 
attitude. Thats it.

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Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Bas Wijnen
I think this is a good example of how not to respond to reports, as we recently
discussed on this list.  Even though most parts are excellent. :-)

On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 03:36:26PM +0200, Laurent Bigonville wrote:
 The root cause of this bug is [...]

This part is useful.

 So please get dirmngr fixed instead of blaming systemd/logind.

This is the part you should _NEVER_ do.  It is YOUR responsibitiliy, as a
maintainer (you are the maintainer, right?), to make sure that a bug that is
reported in the wrong place gets sent to the right place.  It is GOOD that a
user reports it (it is a real bug), and it isn't a problem if technically it
isn't in your package; you just fix that.

These sort of responses are giving you a bad name.  If you'd leave that
statement out, the mail would be helpful.  With it, the user will feel that you
tell them to go away (which was complained about in this very thread).

 I've reopened the initial bug opened against dirmngr about the fact that the
 initscript is calling su (#668890)

This again, is the right thing to do.

Instead of complaining that the user reported the bug to the wrong package,
please thank them for reporting it.  They're spending their time to make Debian
better.  They are not trying to defame you.

Thanks,
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Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread LeJacq, Jean Pierre
On Saturday 10 May 2014 09:57:25 Marc Haber wrote:
 On Fri, 09 May 2014 20:30:22 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
 Am 09.05.2014 19:56, schrieb Steve Langasek:
  I don't think systemd integration is in a state today that this is ready
  to become the default.
 
 What are you missing?
 
 For example, keyscript= in /etc/crypttab. I got systemd just by not
 paying attention, and in result an unbootable system since my crypto
 setup heavily relies on keyscript=. Thankfully it was only a test VM
 that got borked that way before I dared touching production.

I second this. We had several production systems that became unbootable due to 
this systemd change. It took quite some time to understand the intricate 
dependency among packages and we were fortunate to have a reliable recovery 
mechanism.

We still do not understand why systemd does not seem to work with the 
cryptsetup package. The complexity of systemd is substantially higher which 
makes debugging these types of issues more difficult.

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Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Laurent Bigonville
Le Sat, 10 May 2014 16:00:39 +0200,
Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de a écrit :
[...]
 
 Thats exactly the kind of reaction I meant:
 
 Frankly, I just *don´t* care where it is fixed. If its in dirmngr,
 fine.
 
 Yet: I do think its about high time systemd developers and packagers
 adopt an attitude of never break userspace like the kernel
 developers do.

Sure that the attitude I don't care where the root cause of a problem
lies, opening 3 different bugs against 3 different packages for the
same issue and then complain publicly that the bug is not fixed is good
and productive...

May I remind you that everybody in Debian is working as a volunteer and
that we have limited time and motivation and that this kind of
continuous ranting is not helping.

 
 The plain fact:
 
 Using systemd breaks something that worked for probably a decade or
 longer before however long that su is in that init script. So on what
 account do you call calling su in an init script a bug? It may not
 be the most elegant solution to do things, granted, but a bug? Come
 on. Calling it a bug just cause systemd / policykit treat calling su
 in an initscript as they do is quite arrogant in my eyes.

IMVHO opening a PAM session in an initscript is a bad idea from day
one, as you don't know which modules are being called, as it can create
bogus audit trails or cause other subtile issues.

Here it's just a symptom being revealed.

 
 Telling Go away, the bug is elsewhere is just not an approbiate
 reaction for developers of a low level system component. Approbiate
 in my eyes would be caring and helping along with the issue to be
 fixed no matter where the fix will land in. I.e. provide help and a
 patch for dirmngr, or even a systemd service file, instead of getting
 systemd installed via some apt-get dist-upgrade and look at what
 breaks if its clear before hand that hibernation for any user of a
 full KDE installation is included in the list of breakages.
 
 Thats it.

I personally think that systemd team (of which I'm NOT part) is already
doing a really good work to fix integration issues, they are already
providing patches or .services for main packages but they cannot fix
everything.

 Additional to that: su does not by itself create another seat. Its
 still the same laptop. One keyboard, one display, *one* seat. Even if
 I run a ten different desktop sessions with ten different users on
 it, its just *one* seat. Which means that when I tell to hibernate,
 there is just no other user around who can be asked whether they are
 fine with it.

 It would be different with an application server where many people
 log in, it may be different with SSH sessions opened, but this is
 *just* a laptop. Well but this is all in the bug reports I mentioned.

Just using su will not cause logind to register a new session if you
are already registered and if the loginuid attribute is properly set on
your system by pam_loginuid, a new session is registered only if you are
logging in from an entry point application like login or a DM.

Even if you have one seat, that doesn't mean that other logged in users
dont have long running process (compilations, download,...) that can be
interrupted like that at any time.

I personally find this behavior sensible and conservative, but even if
after the dirmngr bug is fixed, you still don't like this behavior, it
can be configured by changing the policykit configuration, I think that
Michael already pointed you to some documentation.
 
 Again, I am not ranting about any technicalities here. I am ranting
 about attitude. Thats it.



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Avoiding systemd

2014-05-10 Thread John
After following the discussions of systemd (including everything on 
debian-devel), I find myself appalled at the rude and domineering attitudes of 
almost all systemd's defenders.  I don't trust them.  Accordingly, I'd like to 
keep systemd off my machine (sid) to the extent practical until things have had 
quite a while to shake out.

Is it sufficient to install systemd-shim and add one or all of these stanzas to 
/etc/apt/preferences? If just one, which?

Package: systemd
Pin: origin *
Pin-Priority: -100

Package: systemd-sysv
Pin: origin *
Pin-Priority: -100

Package: libpam-systemd
Pin: origin *
Pin-Priority: -100

Thanks for practical help.  I'm not looking for more flames.

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ignoring bugs with no maintainer (Re: Removal of emacs23 from unstable/testing)

2014-05-10 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Rob,

On Mittwoch, 7. Mai 2014, Rob Browning wrote:
 If we can, I'd like to remove emacs23 from unstable/testing before the
 freeze.  To make that possible, any relevant packages will need to
 migrate to emacs24, or just include support for emacs24.

what's your plan for dealing with old bugs against emacs23? 

I'm asking because I can see plenty of bugs against emacs20 (11 bugs), emacs21 
(99) and emacs22 (62) have not been reassigned to the emacs23 source package 
but are left rotting in the corner of the BTS which is called packages 
maintained by no one, (in)visible at https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-
bin/pkgreport.cgi?maint=

The newest (#575370) is from March 2010 and without maintainer reaction.

I believe all those bugs should be either reassigned to emacs23 (and soon 24) 
or just be closed with an informal message, also offering to reopen and 
reassign to emacs23/24 if applicable. Do you agree? If not, what do you 
propose to do with these bugs?

Having these bugs rott in a corner of the BTS almost nobody ever looks at is a 
disservice to our users. IMO there should be 0 bugs open against 
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?maint=

Oh, and emacs bugs only make up 20% of those bugs... IMO all should be dealt 
with, i just picked emacs as the emacs23 removal announce mail reminded me...


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Re: Bug#747612: RFP: manokwari -- a desktop shell for GNOME 3

2014-05-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
Control: reassign -1 wnpp
Control: retitle -1 RFP: manokwari -- a desktop shell for GNOME 3

On Sb, 10 mai 14, 18:05:32, Rahman Yusri Aftian wrote:
 Package: manokwari
 Version: 0.2.1.37
 Severity: wishlist
 
 Dear Maintainer,
 
 Manokwari is a desktop shell for GNOME 3. It features combined Gtk+ and
 HTML5 frontend (Gtk+ is legacy here and would be replaced totally with
 HTML5 in the future). It is an evolution from a shell called blankon-panel.
 
 Manokwari is currently only available in the BlankOn and Debian have not
 entered into the repository Debian.
 I begged for it to be included repository debian.
 
 For Source Upstream: https://github.com/BlankOn/manokwari
 and source BlankOn: http://dev.blankonlinux.or.id/browser/tambora/manokwari
 
 Given in debian, debian user can then mengguankan Manokwari
 
 
 -- System Information:
 Distributor ID: Blankon
 Description: BlankOn Tambora (Development Branch)
 Release: 10.0
 Codename: tambora
 Architecture: i686
 
 Kernel: Linux 3.13-1-686-pae (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
 Locale: LANG=id_ID.utf8, LC_CTYPE=id_ID.utf8 (charmap=UTF-8) (ignored:
 LC_ALL set to id_ID.utf8)
 Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
 
 Versions of packages manokwari depends on:
 ii  gnome-menus 3.10.1-0blankon1
 ii  gnome-screensaver   3.6.1-1blankon2
 ii  libc6   2.18-4
 ii  libcairo2   1.12.16-2
 ii  libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0  2.30.6-1
 ii  libgee2 0.6.8-1
 ii  libglib2.0-02.39.92-2blankon1
 ii  libgnome-menu2  3.0.1-4
 ii  libgtk-3-0  3.11.9-0blankon1
 ii  libjavascriptcoregtk-3.0-0  2.3.4-2blankon1
 ii  libnotify-bin   0.7.6-2
 ii  libnotify4  0.7.6-2
 ii  libpango-1.0-0  1.36.3-1
 ii  libunique-3.0-0 3.0.2-2
 ii  libwebkitgtk-3.0-0  2.3.4-2blankon1
 ii  libwnck-3-0 3.4.7-1
 ii  libx11-62:1.6.2-1
 ii  mutter  3.10.3-0blankon1
 ii  shutdowndialog  0.7
 
 Versions of packages manokwari recommends:
 ii  komodo-icon-theme  0.2.32
 
 manokwari suggests no packages.
 
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Re: change is hard and feared upon (Re: systemd-fsck?)

2014-05-10 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi,

Holger Levsen:
 systemctl is not mentioned on https://wiki.debian.org/systemd - maybe it 
 should?
 
Actually, this is hardly Debian specific, so a pointer to the generic page
for debugging startup/shutdown with systemd would probably be more useful
than duplicating information that's available elsewhere (and better
maintained there, I hazard to assume).

http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Debugging/

 enabling debug.service is not mentioned on https://wiki.debian.org/systemd - 
 maybe it should?
 
debug-shell.service, actually; my bad. See above.

  This is a whole lot easier than munging random shell scripts or, worse,
  booting with /bin/bash as PID1.
 
 but thats how it ever was, so it must be right!!111/irony
 
'xactly.

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Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
On 9 May 2014 23:50, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote:
 Bas Wijnen wij...@debian.org writes:
 On Fri, May 09, 2014 at 10:37:03PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:

 It and upstart (and any other providers of /sbin/init) should also grow
 critical debconf warnings if you install them and you were previously
 using systemd as your init so it's symmetric.

 Nobody is suggesting that systemd should give you a critical warning
 when you try to install it.  The problem people are having, is that it
 suddenly installs itself without the user trying.  When sysv init or
 upstart do that, they should get critical warnings as well.  But better
 yet, they shouldn't do it.  And neither should systemd.

 The same issue that leads to systemd being installed could well lead to
 one of the other init systems being installed for the same reason: some
 piece of software integrates with only one init system and Depends on it.
 If we can avoid that situation, great -- portable software is always
 good.  But belt and suspenders: we should also prepare for that situation
 and ensure that any switch of an init system via package installation
 results in a critical debconf warning so that no one is caught by
 surprise.

 This has the advantage of future-proofing against any later change of init
 system, letting us reuse the mechanisms that we put in place for this one.


When sysv-init was essential, installing upstart required to type
Yes, do as I say!. Which is even higher than a critical debconf
prompt.

Users that already have installed upstart, instead of sysv-init,
should upon upgrade stay with upstart installed and running as pid1,
without any prompts.
Similarly users that already have installed systemd, should stay on
systemd without any prompts.
Users of sysvinit, are of two categories, those that reverted to or
wish to stay with sysvinit or those that simply use the default.
It is desired to migrate simply use the default to the new default,
systemd, if that is possible.

As far as I understand, for sysvinit users that means upgrade paths
possible are:
* sysvinit + systemd-shim (assuming common-cases that something wants
to use, e.g. logind)
* systemd

I don't think any sets of provides / alternative dependencies
ordering, will give us ability to ask a question upon apt
full-upgrade which of the two upgrade paths to take for current
sysvinit users?!

Thus, interim, until we have a mechanism to ask what to do on
upgrades, maybe sysvinit/sysvinit-core should gain a (bogus)
dependency on systemd-shim?

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Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 10. Mai 2014, 18:00:02 schrieb Laurent Bigonville:
 Le Sat, 10 May 2014 16:00:39 +0200,
 Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de a écrit :
 [...]
 
  
 
  Thats exactly the kind of reaction I meant:
  
 
  Frankly, I just *don´t* care where it is fixed. If its in dirmngr,
  fine.
 
  
 
  Yet: I do think its about high time systemd developers and packagers
  adopt an attitude of never break userspace like the kernel
  developers do.
 
 Sure that the attitude I don't care where the root cause of a problem
 lies, opening 3 different bugs against 3 different packages for the
 same issue and then complain publicly that the bug is not fixed is good
 and productive...

I am stopping here. As I do not think its productive to go on.

I let your reaction to my oppinion speak for itself.

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Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi,

Martin Steigerwald:
 Yet: I do think its about high time systemd developers and packagers adopt an 
 attitude of never break userspace like the kernel developers do.
 
I beg to differ. At least in this case.

su does a bunch of things that are perfectly appropriate for something
that creates a new login. That's its job.

Running a daemon under its own UID is an almost-completely different
problem. We already have a tool which does this (start-stop-daemon),
which has been recommended for this task for umpteen years, and which still
works if there is no .service file – for whatever reason.

Every compiler toolchain upgrade breaks a bunch of packages, sometimes in
subtle ways, and mostly because the code was in some way non-standard.
You don't complain about that, do you? So why is systemd different?

Mind you, I am not defending the handling of this specific bug; certainly
the systemd people's attitude is somewhat … let's call it abrasive …
at times.

But, let's face it: I were a maintainer of a package that's consistently
held to higher standards than any other package, and for no clear reason
(much less a technical one), I'd become abrasive in short order, too.

 Telling Go away, the bug is elsewhere is just not an approbiate reaction  
 for developers of a low level system component.

For the record: I do not disagree with this statement.

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Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 10. Mai 2014, 19:13:01 schrieb Matthias Urlichs:
 Hi,
 
 Martin Steigerwald:
  Yet: I do think its about high time systemd developers and packagers adopt
  an attitude of never break userspace like the kernel developers do.
 I beg to differ. At least in this case.
 
 su does a bunch of things that are perfectly appropriate for something
 that creates a new login. That's its job.
 
 Running a daemon under its own UID is an almost-completely different
 problem. We already have a tool which does this (start-stop-daemon),
 which has been recommended for this task for umpteen years, and which still
 works if there is no .service file – for whatever reason.

On my other mail I wrote it a bit differently with an added statement along the 
lines and if you do care for fixing it at whatever place is most suitable and 
do so before systemd becomes default.

I am not opposed to having this fixed in dirmngr init script.

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Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Norbert Preining 

 So I *strongly* advise to inform *and* ask the users!!

I would strongly advise you to stop spreading FUD as well as conserving
the global supply of exclamation marks.

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Bug#747649: ITP: ceph-dkms -- Ceph FS and RBD Linux kernel drivers (DKMS version)

2014-05-10 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,ceph-maintain...@lists.ceph.com

   Package name: ceph-dkms
Version: 3.14+git20140429
Upstream Author: Sage Weil s...@newdream.net
URL: https://github.com/ceph/ceph-client
License: GPL-2, LGPL-2.1
Description: Ceph FS and RBD Linux kernel drivers (DKMS version)
 DKMS drivers for Ceph file system and RBD devices.
 .
 This package provides DKMS kernel modules for Linux Kernel 3.14+.
 .
 Ceph is a scalable distributed storage system; RBD is a block device
 striped across multiple distributed objects in RADOS, a reliable,
 autonomic distributed object storage cluster developed as part of the Ceph
 distributed storage system.

Packaging is committed to

http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-ceph/ceph-dkms.git

Shipping newer Ceph modules [libceph,ceph,rbd] in DKMS form is helpful to 
backport new features (like support for latest tunables) and fixes as well as 
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Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Jakub Wilk

* Matthias Urlichs matth...@urlichs.de, 2014-05-10, 19:13:

Every compiler toolchain upgrade breaks a bunch of packages,


For end users? I don't think so.

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Re: Avoiding system d

2014-05-10 Thread Brian
On Sat 10 May 2014 at 12:05:25 -0400, John wrote:

 Thanks for practical help.  I'm not looking for more flames.

A couple of quotes from your mail:

   I find myself appalled at the rude and domineering attitudes of
   almost all systemd's defenders.

   I don't trust them.

You're not looking for flames? You're kidding, aren't you? Your technical
question is wrapped up in flame-baiting.

And you also post to -devel and -user. Getting the audience and attention
looks like a prime aim.


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Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Laurent Bigonville
Le Sat, 10 May 2014 19:13:01 +0200,
Matthias Urlichs matth...@urlichs.de a écrit :

Hi,

[...]

  Telling Go away, the bug is elsewhere is just not an approbiate
  reaction for developers of a low level system component.
 
 For the record: I do not disagree with this statement.

I think there are some misunderstanding here.

The initial bugreport really sounded like a feature request / changes
of behavior not an actual bug.

And IMHO pointing the user to the documentation so the user can change
it himself was perfectly correct.

Looking at the original bug again, it seems that there were actually
several issues. The bug with dirmngr creating a logind session and the
fact that pam_loginuid was not properly set (login-session-id set to
MAX_INT).

The former bug will be fixed soon (I've pushed a NMU to the delayed/3
queue) and the later should have been fixed in KDM for quite sometimes
now.

Cheers,

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Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sat, 2014-05-10 at 19:53 +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote:
 * Matthias Urlichs matth...@urlichs.de, 2014-05-10, 19:13:
 Every compiler toolchain upgrade breaks a bunch of packages,
 
 For end users? I don't think so.

If a package is not changed to fix the FTBFS, then it will be removed
from testing and will miss the next release.  The effect on end users is
not immediate (package is still in stable and unstable) but there is
breakage that other maintainers need to fix.

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Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi,

Jakub Wilk:
 * Matthias Urlichs matth...@urlichs.de, 2014-05-10, 19:13:
 Every compiler toolchain upgrade breaks a bunch of packages,
 
 For end users? I don't think so.
 
The typical end user does not recompile some system-supplied package with a
newer GCC; neither does the typical end user run Debian's old SysV init
script with systemd. In both cases Debian supplies updated source, resp.
updated init scripts.

I would not label somebody who compiles their own code end user.

I also would not expect an end user to add su foo -c /do/whatever to
/etc/rc.local. Your opinion may differ, that's OK.

I would, however, like to consider a couple of better solutions than
adding a workaround or two for continuing to use /bin/su in contexts
it was never intended for.

For instance, /bin/su might recognize that it's called in an environment
without controlling terminal and whatnot, and limit itself to not
using PAM to create a new session. (Or whatever the exact bug is.)

Alternately, a nice little message that the default init system is now
called systemd and that everything SHOULD still work but the world is
rarely perfect, so here's a link that tells you how to debug this strange
new thing might as well mention that replacing any calls to su in
rc.local with either sudo or systemd units would be a splendid idea.

For bonus points, display the message with higher priority if you find the
word su anywhere in /etc/rc*.

For even more fun, imagine what'll happen for Zurg – when we replace X11
with Wayland as the default display manager … I predict the systemd
transition to be painless by comparison.

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Re: Ghostscript licensing changed to AGPL

2014-05-10 Thread Paul Vojta
In article nfdvy-6f...@gated-at.bofh.it,
Bas Wijnen  wij...@debian.org wrote:
On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 06:44:16PM -0700, Jose Luis Rivas wrote:
 I saw it and I fail to see what exactly they want to achieve with this
 change since AGPLv3 is for web apps.

I license almost all my work as AGPL, because I like that clause.  The idea of
the GPL is to make sure that all end users are free to do what they want, not
just the people who initially received the software.  With more and more things
turning into web applications, you need the AGPL to continue to do this.  So
even if my code is not intended for using as a web service, I want my indirect
users to have their freedoms when it is.

I didn't look into their arguments at all, but I'm guessing it's along the same
lines.

Although the intent of AGPLv3 may be for web apps, the actual wording used
is interacting with it remotely through a computer network.
So, when someone is running xdvi through a thin client, and xdvi calls gs
as a subprocess, then they are interacting with gs through a computer network
and AGPL (section 13, specifically) applies.

* texlive-bin (texlive-binaries)
 
 Actually with this one is worst, since the LPPL is not compatible with
 the GPL, lets not even talk about GPLv3 or AGPLv3 :-/

If it's incompatible with the GPL and the way they distributed it was
acceptable, then I can't see why anything would have changed now.

See my paragraph above.

Also, please note that texlive is a compilation of many parts from
many different sources, and they use different licenses.  In particular,
xdvi uses a license based on the X Consortium license.

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Bug#747668: ITP: secilc -- SELinux CIL compiler and helper commands

2014-05-10 Thread Victor Porton
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Victor Porton por...@narod.ru

I want to package this software along with some system scripts (to help
installation of other packages) I am going to create:

https://bitbucket.org/jwcarter/secilc


Please take into account, it is my first package
to be put into Debian.

Well, now I have a trouble even to compile the upstream package,
but I am willing to work on this.


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Re: copyrighted embedded ICC profiles in images

2014-05-10 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 02:55:09PM +0200, Jérémy Lal wrote:
 Le samedi 10 mai 2014 à 13:37 +0100, Ben Hutchings a écrit :
  On Sat, 2014-05-10 at 11:10 +0200, Jérémy Lal wrote:
   Hi,

   Jonas Smedegaard brought to my attention that an image file [0]
   can embed a copyrighted ICC profile without license.
  [...]

  This sounds like a ludicrous overreach of copyright.  Isn't an ICC
  descriptive, rather than creative?  And the idea that vendors could
  claim images made with their products (very likely with no explicit
  action to use the profile) to be derivative works is appalling.

 On [2] one can find some examples of licenses one embedded icc profile
 can be put under:

  To anyone who acknowledges that the files 
  sRGB_IEC61966-2-1_no_black_scaling.icc and sRGB_IEC61966-2-1_black 
  scaled.icc are provided AS IS WITH NO EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTY, 
  permission to use, copy and distribute these file for any purpose is 
  hereby granted without fee, provided that the files are not changed 
  including the ICC copyright notice tag, and that the name of ICC shall 
  not be used in advertising or publicity pertaining to distribution of 
  the software without specific, written prior permission. ICC makes no 
  representations about the suitability of this software for any purpose.

 So, even if the license was distributed along with the image using it,
 this license clearly violates DFSG 3 (here, no modifications of embedded
 icc profile are allowed).

The license only matters if the work in question is copyrightable in the
first place.  If it's not copyrightable, then you don't need a license and
should ignore any license being offered to you.  The fact that someone is
trying to *claim* copyright and offer you a license you don't need is not
what's relevant.

I haven't looked at what these ICC profiles are and whether we should
consider them creative or not, but that's the question Ben is asking here.

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Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 04:00:39PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
  The root cause of this bug is in the initscript of dirmngr that us using
  su instead of start-stop-daemon.

  su is starting a PAM session which then call pam_systemd. This
  should not happen for daemons.

  Again here systemd is only doing what he's instructed to do; not
  allowing a user to create a DOS for other logged in users. So please
  get dirmngr fixed instead of blaming systemd/logind. I've reopened the
  initial bug opened against dirmngr about the fact that the initscript
  is calling su (#668890)

 Thats exactly the kind of reaction I meant:

 Frankly, I just *don´t* care where it is fixed. If its in dirmngr, fine.

 Yet: I do think its about high time systemd developers and packagers adopt
 an attitude of never break userspace like the kernel developers do.

I consider it of the highest importance that the transition to systemd not
break running systems.

But Laurent is correct here: the bug in this case is in dirmngr, not in
systemd.  It's not reasonable to hold systemd to blame when other packages
that were using wrong interfaces now have their bugs exposed because of
logind.  In fact, I'm surprised that this particular bug in dirmngr wasn't
already a problem *before* systemd, since consolekit's behavior (including
the integration with PAM sessions) was nearly identical.

Laurent is not being a systemd apologist by pointing this out.  I know from
the PAM bugs I've worked with him on that he cares deeply about getting the
core structure of session handling right in Debian.  But doing that in a
fashion that's maintainable over the long term means having a *design*, and
stable *interfaces* that are supported - not a blanket promise to never
break anything in the system that is relying on unintended side effects of
the current implementation.

Some of the regressions introduced are going to turn out to be bugs in
systemd.  Some of them are going to turn out to be latent bugs in other
packages that are exposed by the transition to systemd.  The important thing
here is that Debian developers (and bug reporters) work constructively
*with* the systemd maintainers to properly isolate the cause of the bugs, so
that we can move forward together towards a stable jessie with systemd as
the default... instead of wasting all our energy throwing blame at each
other for the bugs that happen along the way, leaving none left for the
actual bug fixing.

 The plain fact:

 Using systemd breaks something that worked for probably a decade or longer
 before however long that su is in that init script.  So on what account do
 you call calling su in an init script a bug?  It may not be the most
 elegant solution to do things, granted, but a bug?  Come on.  Calling it a
 bug just cause systemd / policykit treat calling su in an initscript as
 they do is quite arrogant in my eyes.

As the maintainer of the pam package in Debian, I assure you: this is a bug
in dirmngr.  System services should not (must not) call interfaces that
launch pam sessions as part of their init scripts.  su is one of those
interfaces.

 Telling Go away, the bug is elsewhere is just not an approbiate reaction
 for developers of a low level system component.  Approbiate in my eyes
 would be caring and helping along with the issue to be fixed no matter
 where the fix will land in.  I.e.  provide help and a patch for dirmngr,

If someone wants to provide a patch to dirmngr, kudos to them.  But it's the
responsibility of the dirmngr maintainer to fix this, not the responsibility
of the systemd maintainers, and no package maintainer worth his salt should
have any difficulty replacing 'su' with 'start-stop-daemon' in an init
script... especially considering 'start-stop-daemon' is the default shown in
the /etc/init.d/skeleton example.

Now, this *is* an example of why it's bad for systemd to have started
pulling itself into people's systems before the sysvinit default has been
switched, and shows that we should only make the switch of default in
concert and after extensive testing.  But the responsibility for fixing the
bug still lies with the maintainer of the buggy package.

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Re: Avoiding systemd

2014-05-10 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi John,

On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 12:05:25PM -0400, John wrote:
 After following the discussions of systemd (including everything on
 debian-devel), I find myself appalled at the rude and domineering
 attitudes of almost all systemd's defenders.  I don't trust them. 
 Accordingly, I'd like to keep systemd off my machine (sid) to the extent
 practical until things have had quite a while to shake out.

 Is it sufficient to install systemd-shim and add one or all of these
 stanzas to /etc/apt/preferences?  If just one, which?

snip

 Package: systemd-sysv
 Pin: origin *
 Pin-Priority: -100

This one.

The systemd package contains other dbus services that you don't want to try
to exclude from a desktop system; and libpam-systemd provides necessary
integration with policykit on those same systems.

Hope that helps,
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Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Kevin Chadwick
previously on this list Matthias Urlichs contributed:

 I also would not expect an end user to add su foo -c /do/whatever to
 /etc/rc.local. Your opinion may differ, that's OK.

My opinion certainly does differ as I'm sure is already apparent ;-)
especially that pid1 and single user should most certainly be
technically held to a higher level of scrutiny where the decision
to increase it's complexity has been decided (perhaps you meant the
other parts of systemd though).

I love sudo but do not use it in rc.local. How can using substitute user
identity in rc.local possibly be wrong, please elaborate without
mentioning PAM. I can't say I know the details but even so surely the
bug has to be either with systemd or my expectation being PAM?

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Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Norbert Preining
On Sat, 10 May 2014, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
 I would strongly advise you to stop spreading FUD as well as conserving

? Could you be so kind and explain your insinuation?

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Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Kevin Chadwick
previously on this list Steve Langasek contributed:

  Using systemd breaks something that worked for probably a decade or longer
  before however long that su is in that init script.  So on what account do
  you call calling su in an init script a bug?  It may not be the most
  elegant solution to do things, granted, but a bug?  Come on.  Calling it a
  bug just cause systemd / policykit treat calling su in an initscript as
  they do is quite arrogant in my eyes.  
 
 As the maintainer of the pam package in Debian, I assure you: this is a bug
 in dirmngr.  System services should not (must not) call interfaces that
 launch pam sessions as part of their init scripts.  su is one of those
 interfaces.

In that case should it be one of those interfaces. 

He is right, books tell you (for decades) quite rightly to do just that
in rc.local for example. Examples are all over the internet, so if this
breaks your system are you or RedHat going to change all those books
and websites to say but if you are using Linux post 20?? you now have to
do it differently unless you use Slackware or maybe Gentoo or???, that
is irresponsible or bad planning or configuration or perhaps money in
RedHat's pocket for support if I was inclined to be sinical.

The su utility allows a user to run a shell with the user and group
ID of another user without having to log out and in as that other user.

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correct use of su

2014-05-10 Thread Brian May
On 11 May 2014 03:13, Matthias Urlichs matth...@urlichs.de wrote:

 su does a bunch of things that are perfectly appropriate for something
 that creates a new login. That's its job.


I am still a bit confused, isn't this only when you use the -l su flag?

Does su do stuff (e.g. pam session stuff) even without the -l flag?


Running a daemon under its own UID is an almost-completely different
 problem. We already have a tool which does this (start-stop-daemon),
 which has been recommended for this task for umpteen years, and which still
 works if there is no .service file – for whatever reason.


As a debian developer I was unaware of this.

What about the task of running a short program for a brief duration, e.g.
from cron scripts?  Is using su considered acceptable?

e.g. /etc/cron.daily/spamassassin on wheezy has numerous references to su.
I think there might be other packages, this is just one I could find the
quickest.

The name start-stop-daemon would suggest this is inappropriate for cron
jobs, is that an invalid assumption I made?


(please don't turn this into a systemd debate - I simply want to know what
is considered best practise for Debian packaging)
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Guile language support in make

2014-05-10 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,

I have two constituencies here; people who would like to see
 guile support in make, and to explore the new features. And people who
 expect a sensibly small set of packages essential to building other
 packages in Debin.

Without guile suport, make just depends on libc, and nothing
 else.  Guile support adds the allowing packages to the dependencies:
   guile-2.0-libs, libgc1c2 (= 1:7.2d)

Since make is build essential, I am not going to pull in these
 extra dependencies without due consideration, so I have put the
 wishlist bug to add the support as wontfix, for the moment. However,
 just install guile-2.0-dev, apt-get source make, and rebuilding should
 give you a guile supporting make, so it is a low barrier of entry. I
 have labeled wontfix a bug report to prevent that from happening,
 since that would change the behaviour of make compiled on a machine
 (not a sterile build environment) somewhat different than the official
 package.  I suspect that there are a lot of things in the environment
 that could change the resulting binaries, which is why most
 deterministic build scanarios start with a well defined build
 environment; and in such an environment the current make package will
 indeed build consistently without guile support (unless build-essential
 or debhelper grow guile dependencies, and I';; of course watch for
 that). But,  enough rambling.

How do we move forward with enabling guile support in make?

Building two binary packages from a single source seems hackish,
 since make and make-guile would require  ./configure to be run again,
 and each target of the ./debin/rules might need cleanup/restart. Not
 unsolvable, but messy, and I do not have the motivation to do
 that. Patches welcome, of course.


I would like to solicit the opinion of the developers about the
 value of adding Guile support to the default make package, at the
 expense of two smallish additional dependencies.
 http://blog.melski.net/2013/11/29/whats-new-in-gnu-make-4-0/ has a
 write up on what guile support would bring.

Thanks for listening

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Re: Guile language support in make

2014-05-10 Thread Russ Allbery
Manoj Srivastava sriva...@ieee.org writes:

 Building two binary packages from a single source seems hackish,
  since make and make-guile would require  ./configure to be run again,
  and each target of the ./debin/rules might need cleanup/restart. Not
  unsolvable, but messy, and I do not have the motivation to do
  that. Patches welcome, of course.

I do this with libpam-krb5 to build against both MIT Kerberos and Heimdal,
and it's very straightforward with a package that supports out of tree
builds, like I presume make does.  (Nearly all GNU software does.)
debhelper has built-in support for doing this; see libpam-krb5's
debian/rules file to get a feeling for how it would work.

I think building two separate binaries makes more sense than adding Guile
support by default for all the reasons you stated.  We do similar things
with Emacs, which has a -nox version to avoid pulling in tons of X
libraries, and I think it's more important for make.

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Re: Guile language support in make

2014-05-10 Thread Steve McIntyre
Russ Allbery wrote:
Manoj Srivastava sriva...@ieee.org writes:

 Building two binary packages from a single source seems hackish,
  since make and make-guile would require  ./configure to be run again,
  and each target of the ./debin/rules might need cleanup/restart. Not
  unsolvable, but messy, and I do not have the motivation to do
  that. Patches welcome, of course.

I do this with libpam-krb5 to build against both MIT Kerberos and Heimdal,
and it's very straightforward with a package that supports out of tree
builds, like I presume make does.  (Nearly all GNU software does.)
debhelper has built-in support for doing this; see libpam-krb5's
debian/rules file to get a feeling for how it would work.

I think building two separate binaries makes more sense than adding Guile
support by default for all the reasons you stated.  We do similar things
with Emacs, which has a -nox version to avoid pulling in tons of X
libraries, and I think it's more important for make.

Thinking about the poor people trying to bootstrap things, I'm tempted
to suggest doing this as two separate source packages. Make is *so*
far down the bottom of the stack that adding a dependency on another
language could cause significant problems.

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Re: Guile language support in make

2014-05-10 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2014-05-11 at 03:28 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
 Russ Allbery wrote:
 Manoj Srivastava sriva...@ieee.org writes:
 
  Building two binary packages from a single source seems hackish,
   since make and make-guile would require  ./configure to be run again,
   and each target of the ./debin/rules might need cleanup/restart. Not
   unsolvable, but messy, and I do not have the motivation to do
   that. Patches welcome, of course.
 
 I do this with libpam-krb5 to build against both MIT Kerberos and Heimdal,
 and it's very straightforward with a package that supports out of tree
 builds, like I presume make does.  (Nearly all GNU software does.)
 debhelper has built-in support for doing this; see libpam-krb5's
 debian/rules file to get a feeling for how it would work.
 
 I think building two separate binaries makes more sense than adding Guile
 support by default for all the reasons you stated.  We do similar things
 with Emacs, which has a -nox version to avoid pulling in tons of X
 libraries, and I think it's more important for make.
 
 Thinking about the poor people trying to bootstrap things, I'm tempted
 to suggest doing this as two separate source packages. Make is *so*
 far down the bottom of the stack that adding a dependency on another
 language could cause significant problems.

Why separate source packages and not multi-stage bootstrap where
make-guile is excluded from stage1?

Ben.

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Re: Guile language support in make

2014-05-10 Thread Russ Allbery
Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com writes:

 Thinking about the poor people trying to bootstrap things, I'm tempted
 to suggest doing this as two separate source packages. Make is *so* far
 down the bottom of the stack that adding a dependency on another
 language could cause significant problems.

Oh, good point.  Yeah, requiring Guile for a regular source package build
could make bootstrapping quite annoying.

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Accepted ruby-fog-core 1.22.0-1 (source all)

2014-05-10 Thread Cédric Boutillier
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Accepted pypolicyd-spf 1.3-1 (source all)

2014-05-10 Thread Scott Kitterman
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Version: 1.3-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Scott Kitterman sc...@kitterman.com
Changed-By: Scott Kitterman sc...@kitterman.com
Description: 
 postfix-policyd-spf-python - Postfix policy server for SPF checking
Closes: 741516 747349
Changes: 
 pypolicyd-spf (1.3-1) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * New upstream release
 - Updated to support RFC 7208
 - New configuration parameter to adjust DNS timeout delay, Lookup_Time
   (Closes: #747349)
 - When used witn pyspf 2.0.9 meets all RFC 7208 requirements (set minimum
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 - Refreshed patches
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   * Bump standards version to 3.9.5 without further change
   * Update debian/README.Debian to match current user name and file
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Accepted python-biopython 1.63+dfsg-5 (source amd64 all)

2014-05-10 Thread Andreas Tille
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Source: python-biopython
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python-biopython-sql python3-biopython-sql
Architecture: source amd64 all
Version: 1.63+dfsg-5
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Med Packaging Team 
debian-med-packag...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Andreas Tille ti...@debian.org
Description: 
 python-biopython - Python library for bioinformatics (implemented in Python 2)
 python-biopython-doc - Documentation for the Biopython library
 python-biopython-sql - Biopython support for the BioSQL database schema 
(Python 2)
 python3-biopython - Python library for bioinformatics (implemented in Python 3)
 python3-biopython-sql - Biopython support for the BioSQL database schema 
(Python 3)
Closes: 747494
Changes: 
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 .
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Accepted gramps 4.0.3+dfsg-3 (source all)

2014-05-10 Thread Ross Gammon
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Urgency: low
Maintainer: Ross Gammon rossgam...@mail.dk
Changed-By: Ross Gammon rossgam...@mail.dk
Description: 
 gramps - Genealogical research program
Closes: 737771 747318
Changes: 
 gramps (4.0.3+dfsg-3) unstable; urgency=low
 .
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Accepted bijiben 3.12.0-2 (source amd64)

2014-05-10 Thread Vincent Cheng
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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Vincent Cheng vch...@debian.org
Changed-By: Vincent Cheng vch...@debian.org
Description: 
 bijiben- intuitive note editor integrated with GNOME 3
Changes: 
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Accepted rygel 0.22.1-1 (source amd64 all)

2014-05-10 Thread Andreas Henriksson
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Description: 
 librygel-core-2.2-2 - GNOME UPnP/DLNA services - core library
 librygel-renderer-2.2-2 - GNOME UPnP/DLNA services - renderer library
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Accepted castle-game-engine 5.0.0-1 (source amd64 all)

2014-05-10 Thread Abou Al Montacir
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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 21:29:44 +0100
Source: castle-game-engine
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Architecture: source amd64 all
Version: 5.0.0-1
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Urgency: medium
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Description: 
 castle-game-engine-doc - Castle Game Engine - Developer's Documentation
 castle-game-engine-src - Castle Game Engine - Source code for Lazarus 
integration
 fp-units-castle-game-engine - Castle Game Engine - 3D game engine for 
FreePascal / Lazarus
Closes: 732760 747128
Changes: 
 castle-game-engine (5.0.0-1) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ Abou Al Montacir ]
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   * Remove unused include file to allow building on systems where quilt is not
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 .
   [ Paul Gevers ]
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   * Remove nearly obsolete bzip compression for binary packages
 (See https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/01/msg00542.html)
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Accepted curlftpfs 0.9.2-7 (source amd64)

2014-05-10 Thread Vincent Bernat
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Description: 
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Accepted seaview 1:4.5.1-1 (source amd64)

2014-05-10 Thread Charles Plessy
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debian-med-packag...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org
Description: 
 seaview- Multiplatform interface for sequence alignment and phylogeny
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 .
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 .
   [ Andreas Tille ]
   * debian/upstream - debian/upstream/metadata
   * cme fix dpkg-control
 .
   [ Charles Plessy ]
   * debian/patches/add-ldl.patch: removed (applied upstream).
   * Build-depend on libjpeg8-dev instead of libjpeg62-dev.
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Accepted vtk 5.8.0-16 (source all amd64)

2014-05-10 Thread Anton Gladky
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Source: vtk
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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Science Team 
debian-science-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Anton Gladky gl...@debian.org
Description: 
 libvtk-java - Visualization Toolkit - A high level 3D visualization library - j
 libvtk5-dev - VTK header files for building C++ code
 libvtk5-qt4-dev - Visualization Toolkit - A high level 3D visualization 
library - Q
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- Q
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Closes: 731823
Changes: 
 vtk (5.8.0-16) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ Gianfranco Costamagna ]
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Accepted garmin-plugin 0.3.23-1 (source amd64)

2014-05-10 Thread Ralf Treinen
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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian running development group 
pkg-running-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Ralf Treinen trei...@debian.org
Description: 
 garmin-plugin - browser plugin for communication with the fitness websites
Changes: 
 garmin-plugin (0.3.23-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
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Accepted ocaml-estring 20130822-3 (source amd64)

2014-05-10 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
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Source: ocaml-estring
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Architecture: source amd64
Version: 20130822-3
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian OCaml Maintainers debian-ocaml-ma...@lists.debian.org
Changed-By: Mehdi Dogguy me...@debian.org
Description: 
 libestring-ocaml - Estring: OCaml development platform (runtime)
 libestring-ocaml-dev - Estring: OCaml development platform (development)
Closes: 722559
Changes: 
 ocaml-estring (20130822-3) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * Team upload.
   * libestring-ocaml now Conflicts/Replaces libbatteries-ocaml-dev ( 2.0)
 (Closes: #722559).
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Accepted muffin 2.2.1-1 (source amd64 all)

2014-05-10 Thread Margarita Manterola
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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 22:27:14 +0200
Source: muffin
Binary: muffin libmuffin0 muffin-common libmuffin-dev gir1.2-meta-muffin-0.0 
gir1.2-muffin-3.0 muffin-dbg
Architecture: source amd64 all
Version: 2.2.1-1
Distribution: experimental
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Maximiliano Curia m...@debian.org
Changed-By: Margarita Manterola ma...@debian.org
Description: 
 gir1.2-meta-muffin-0.0 - GObject introspection data for Muffin
 gir1.2-muffin-3.0 - GObject introspection data for Muffin (compatibility 
version)
 libmuffin-dev - lightweight window and compositing manager (development files)
 libmuffin0 - lightweight window and compositing manager (shared library)
 muffin - lightweight window and compositing manager
 muffin-common - lightweight window and compositing manager (data files)
 muffin-dbg - lightweight window and compositing manager (debugging symbols)
Closes: 745908
Changes: 
 muffin (2.2.1-1) experimental; urgency=low
 .
   [ Nicolas Bourdaud ]
   * New upstream: muffin_1.8.2
   * Bump policy version to 3.9.4 -- no changes
 .
   [ Maximiliano Curia ]
   * New upstream release muffin_2.0.5
   * New maintainers (Closes: #745908)
   * Bump Standards-Version to 3.9.5.
   * Add new build-dependencies.
   * Refresh patch: support-muffin-typelib
   * Update install files.
   * Update symbols file.
   * Add abi-compliance-checker info.
 .
   [ Margarita Manterola ]
   * New upstream release muffin_2.2.1.
   * Add patch: update-cogl-support to support libcogl-dev 1.18
   * Add patch: gtk-state-flags to support new GTK_STATE_FLAG values.
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Accepted zsnes 1.510+bz2-7 (source i386)

2014-05-10 Thread Etienne Millon
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Source: zsnes
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Architecture: source i386
Version: 1.510+bz2-7
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Games Team pkg-games-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Etienne Millon m...@emillon.org
Description: 
 zsnes  - Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System
 zsnes-dbg  - Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System - debugging s
Closes: 720941 729969 740860
Changes: 
 zsnes (1.510+bz2-7) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   [ Eshat Cakar ]
   * Remove myself from uploaders.
 .
   [ Etienne Millon ]
   * New patch to fix FTBFS on hurd-i386, thanks to Svante Signell.
 (Closes: #720941)
   * Update my email address.
   * Add zsnes-dbg, a package containing the debugging symbols.
 (Closes: #729969)
   * zsnes-linux-resume-freeze-fix.patch: do arithmetic on unsigned long long.
 Thanks to Cedric Dourneau (Closes: #740860).
   * Fix lintian errors:
   - privacy-breach-w3c-valid (remove links)
   - privacy-breach-donation (replace by DEP12)
   - privacy-breach-logo (remove image tags)
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Accepted libisocodes 1.2-1 (source amd64)

2014-05-10 Thread Tobias Quathamer
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Date: Wed, 07 May 2014 12:15:30 +0200
Source: libisocodes
Binary: libisocodes-dev gir1.2-isocodes-1.2 libisocodes1
Architecture: source amd64
Version: 1.2-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Tobias Quathamer to...@debian.org
Changed-By: Tobias Quathamer to...@debian.org
Description: 
 gir1.2-isocodes-1.2 - access of iso-codes data and translations - GObject 
introspection
 libisocodes-dev - access of iso-codes data and translations - development files
 libisocodes1 - access of iso-codes data and translations
Changes: 
 libisocodes (1.2-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Imported Upstream version 1.2
   * Rename packages to reflect new library SONAME
   * Add new symbols to debian/symbols
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Accepted festival 1:2.1~release-7 (source amd64 all)

2014-05-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
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Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 02:44:38 +0200
Source: festival
Binary: festival festival-dbg festival-dev festival-doc
Architecture: source amd64 all
Version: 1:2.1~release-7
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Jean-Philippe MENGUAL te...@accelibreinfo.eu
Changed-By: Samuel Thibault sthiba...@debian.org
Description: 
 festival   - General multi-lingual speech synthesis system
 festival-dbg - General multi-lingual speech synthesis system -- debug symbols
 festival-dev - Development kit for the Festival speech synthesis system
 festival-doc - Documentation for Festival
Closes: 732083 734474
Changes: 
 festival (1:2.1~release-7) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   [ Sergio Oller ]
   * Improved performance by reducing disk i/o on HTS voices and by avoiding
 redundant HTS model reloads.
   * Rewritten text2wave:
   - Linear in CPU with respect to text length.
   - Constant in maximum memory usage no matter the text length.
   - Waves were temporary saved to disk and loaded from it.
 Now, disk output is reduced by half and disk input is
 reduced to almost 0.
   * Build festival-dbg package
   * Build festival-doc package
   * Language selection chooses only among installed voices supporting
 the requested language. (Closes: 732083)
 .
   [ Peter Drysdale ]
   * Remove sys-rc | file-rc dependency - we already ship with
 init files off due to security issues. (Closes: 734474)
 .
   [ Samuel Thibault ]
   * Bump Standards-Version to 3.9.5 (no changes).
   * README.testing: add.
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Accepted recoll 1.19.13-1 (source amd64)

2014-05-10 Thread Kartik Mistry
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Source: recoll
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Architecture: source amd64
Version: 1.19.13-1
Distribution: experimental
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Kartik Mistry kar...@debian.org
Changed-By: Kartik Mistry kar...@debian.org
Description: 
 python-recoll - Python extension for recoll
 python3-recoll - Python extension for recoll (Python3)
 recoll - Personal full text search package with a Qt GUI
Changes: 
 recoll (1.19.13-1) experimental; urgency=low
 .
   * New upstream release.
   * Uploaded to unstable.
   * debian/control:
 + Added new package python3-recoll for Python3.
 + Updated Standards-Version to 3.9.5
 + python*-recoll depends on recoll (= ${binary:Version})
   * debian/rules:
 + dh_python2/dh_python3 target for separated package.
 + Fixed installation of some filters.
   * Updated debian/watch file.
   * Updated python-recoll.install file.
   * Updated debian/copyright.
   * Added patch to fix shebang for some filters.
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Accepted libofx 1:0.9.9-1 (source amd64 all)

2014-05-10 Thread Sébastien Villemot
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Date: Tue, 06 May 2014 20:24:23 +0200
Source: libofx
Binary: libofx6 libofx-dev libofx6-dbg libofx-doc ofx
Architecture: source amd64 all
Version: 1:0.9.9-1
Distribution: experimental
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Sébastien Villemot sebast...@debian.org
Changed-By: Sébastien Villemot sebast...@debian.org
Description: 
 libofx-dev - development package for libofx6
 libofx-doc - documentation for libofx4
 libofx6- library to support the Open Financial Exchange format
 libofx6-dbg - debugging symbols for libofx6
 ofx- Open Financial Exchange programs
Closes: 726184 727420 734348
Changes: 
 libofx (1:0.9.9-1) experimental; urgency=low
 .
   * Imported Upstream version 0.9.9
 - Fixes handling of utf-8 encoded files. (Closes: #726184)
   * debian/copyright: reflect upstream changes.
   * Drop all patches, either applied upstream or unnecessary.
   * Bump SONAME to libofx6.
   * Adopt package. (Closes: #734348)
   * Use dh-autoreconf. (Closes: #727420)
   * Activate parallel build.
   * Simplify debian/rules by removing manual backup of modified files.
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   * Bump Standards-Version to 3.9.5.
   * Update Vcs-* fields.
   * Mark libofx-dev and libofx6-dbg as Multiarch: same.
   * Add source for jquery.js in debian/missing-sources/.
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Accepted pgextwlist 1.2-1 (source amd64)

2014-05-10 Thread Christoph Berg
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Version: 1.2-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Dimitri Fontaine dimi...@2ndquadrant.fr
Changed-By: Christoph Berg christoph.b...@credativ.de
Description: 
 postgresql-9.3-pgextwlist - PostgreSQL Extension Whitelisting
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 pgextwlist (1.2-1) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
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   * Include the plugins/pgextwlist.so symlink in the package.
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Accepted php-pclzip 2.8.2-3 (source all)

2014-05-10 Thread David Prévot
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Version: 2.8.2-3
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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian PHP PEAR Maintainers pkg-php-p...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: David Prévot taf...@debian.org
Description: 
 libphp-pclzip - transitional dummy package
 php-pclzip - ZIP archive manager class for PHP
Closes: 682305
Changes: 
 php-pclzip (2.8.2-3) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * Update Maintainer and Uploaders (Closes: #682305)
   * Proofread Description
   * Document Vcs
   * Convert copyright to format 1.0
   * Depend on php5-common instead of php5 | php5-cli
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Accepted libgdal-grass 1.11.0-1~exp1 (source amd64)

2014-05-10 Thread Bas Couwenberg
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Version: 1.11.0-1~exp1
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Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian GIS Project pkg-grass-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Bas Couwenberg sebas...@xs4all.nl
Description: 
 libgdal1-1.11.0-grass - GRASS extension for the GDAL library
Changes: 
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 .
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   * Update copyright file.
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Accepted speech-tools 1:2.1~release-7 (source amd64 all)

2014-05-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
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Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 02:44:41 +0200
Source: speech-tools
Binary: libestools2.1 libestools2.1-dev libestools2.1-dbg speech-tools 
speech-tools-dbg speech-tools-doc
Architecture: source amd64 all
Version: 1:2.1~release-7
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Jean-Philippe MENGUAL te...@accelibreinfo.eu
Changed-By: Samuel Thibault sthiba...@debian.org
Description: 
 libestools2.1 - Edinburgh Speech Tools Library
 libestools2.1-dbg - Edinburgh Speech Tools Library -- debug symbols
 libestools2.1-dev - Edinburgh Speech Tools Library - developer's libraries
 speech-tools - Edinburgh Speech Tools - user binaries
 speech-tools-dbg - Edinburgh Speech Tools - debug symbols
 speech-tools-doc - Documentation for the Edinburgh Speech Tools
Closes: 715728 716193 716464 716578 716618
Changes: 
 speech-tools (1:2.1~release-7) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   [ Samuel Thibault ]
   * Team upload.
   * rules: Remove config/config on clean.
   * Bump Standards-Version to 3.9.5 (no changes).
   * patches/doc-doc.diff: Fix build when libestools is not installed yet.
   * rules: Do not install refman.pdf, it does not build.
 .
   [ Sergio Oller ]
   * EST_Tokenstream: Add support to read from istream to reduce
 Festival HTS disk input/output usage.
   * Add several methods to EST_WaveFile and EST_Wave to write waves
 by parts (header and data separately) in order improve text2wave
 performance in festival package on long texts.
   * rules: dh_auto_clean must depend on dh_auto_configure to clean safely.
   * Check fread worked when loading files: (Closes: #715728, #716618,
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   * Build -dbg packages.
   * Build speech-tools-doc package.
   * Allow -pc LONGEST in ch_wave. (LP: #723854)
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Accepted eclipse-ptp 7.0.3-1 (source all)

2014-05-10 Thread Jakub Adam
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Version: 7.0.3-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Java Maintainers 
pkg-java-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Jakub Adam jakub.a...@ktknet.cz
Description: 
 eclipse-ptp-rdt - Eclipse Remote Development Tools
Closes: 699869
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Accepted x2goclient 4.0.2.0-1 (source amd64 all)

2014-05-10 Thread Mike Gabriel
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Source: x2goclient
Binary: x2goclient x2goplugin x2goplugin-provider x2goclient-dbg x2goplugin-dbg
Architecture: source amd64 all
Version: 4.0.2.0-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: X2Go Packaging Team pkg-x2go-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Mike Gabriel sunwea...@debian.org
Description: 
 x2goclient - X2Go Client application (Qt4)
 x2goclient-dbg - X2Go Client application (Qt4), debug symbols (client)
 x2goplugin - X2Go Client (Qt4) as browser plugin
 x2goplugin-dbg - X2Go Client application (Qt4), debug symbols (plugin)
 x2goplugin-provider - Provide X2Go Plugin via Apache webserver
Changes: 
 x2goclient (4.0.2.0-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New upstream release.
   * debian/control:
 + Raise versioned B-D: libssh (= 0.5.4-2~).
 + Bump Standards: to 3.9.5. No changes needed.
 + Provide dbg:package for X2Go Plugin.
 + Make sure very old x2goclient-gtk instances get uninstalled when updating
   to X2Go Client 4.0.2.0.
 + Don't directly recommend apache2.
   * debian/rules:
 + Make upstream ChangeLog available for X2Go Client build.
 + Drop manually stripping symbols from libx2goplugin.so.
   * upstream changelog:
 + Stop shipping upstream changelog in debian/ folder. Upstream provides it
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Accepted clzip 1.6~pre2-1 (source amd64)

2014-05-10 Thread Daniel Baumann
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Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 11:49:21 +0200
Source: clzip
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Architecture: source amd64
Version: 1.6~pre2-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Daniel Baumann m...@daniel-baumann.ch
Changed-By: Daniel Baumann m...@daniel-baumann.ch
Description: 
 clzip  - C, lossless data compressor based on the LZMA algorithm
 clzip-dbg  - C, lossless data compressor based on the LZMA algorithm (debug)
Changes: 
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 .
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Accepted lzlib 1.6~rc1-1 (source amd64)

2014-05-10 Thread Daniel Baumann
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Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 11:52:09 +0200
Source: lzlib
Binary: liblz1 liblz-dev liblz-dbg
Architecture: source amd64
Version: 1.6~rc1-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Daniel Baumann m...@daniel-baumann.ch
Changed-By: Daniel Baumann m...@daniel-baumann.ch
Description: 
 liblz-dbg  - data compressor based on the LZMA algorithm (debug)
 liblz-dev  - data compressor based on the LZMA algorithm (development)
 liblz1 - data compressor based on the LZMA algorithm (library)
Changes: 
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 .
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