Re: Sentry for Debian services?

2019-12-25 Thread Stefano Rivera
Hi Bastian (2019.12.25_23:08:40_+)
> I don't think we already have a Sentry instance for Debian services
> running?  Are there other services in need for a Sentry instance?

If it were available, I'd probably use it for the DebConf websites.
There are bugs, and I don't see them all in the logs.

Some personal data there, (conference registration), of course. So maybe
people would prefer we didn't send this off to 3rd party services...

> I looked at the install documentation[1] and it tells me that I don't
> want to run Sentry myself.  Any takers?

I've run it in the past, when it was just a Django app, with a couple of
service dependencies. That was easy.
These days it looks like more of a beast :(

> Another option may be using the hosted solution, which they give away
> gratis to open source projects, which we might be.[2]

Had good experience with their hosted solution.

SR

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requirements and regulations concerning upgrade checks/statistics callback on program start

2019-12-25 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi everyone

(please Cc)

are there any requirements or restriction what a program packaged in
Debian is allowed to do when starting up? Calibre is normally doing the
following checks:
- check for updates of itself
- check for updates of plugins
- send UID, OS, program version, and the icon theme selected in the
  program to the statistic site [1]

Which of the above actions are acceptable for Debian/main?

[1] https://calibre-ebook.com/dynamic/calibre-usage

Best

Norbert

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Sentry for Debian services?

2019-12-25 Thread Bastian Blank
Hi

Salsa is a pretty complex beast.  As such it got errors.  And especially
user visible errors.  To manage and correlate information about such
errors it supports Sentry, which is the de-facto standard to do that
work.  Sure, the same information can be read from the log, but this is
not really usable.

I don't think we already have a Sentry instance for Debian services
running?  Are there other services in need for a Sentry instance?

I looked at the install documentation[1] and it tells me that I don't
want to run Sentry myself.  Any takers?

Another option may be using the hosted solution, which they give away
gratis to open source projects, which we might be.[2]

[1]: https://docs.sentry.io/server/installation/
[2]: https://sentry.io/for/open-source/
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Bug#947372: ITP: librm -- FritzBox router manager library

2019-12-25 Thread Hilko Bengen
control: retitle 899989 ITA: roger-router -- Home router management tool - GUI
control: owner 899989 ben...@debian.org
control: block 899989 by -1
Package: wnpp
Owner: Hilko Bengen 
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: librm
  Version : 2.1.1
  Upstream Author : Jan-Michael Brummer
* URL or Web page : https://gitlab.com/tabos/librm
* License : LGPL-2.1+
  Description : FritzBox router manager library

librm is a dependency for newer versions of roger-router[1] which I
intend to adopt.

[1] https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/roger-router



Re: MBF: make fdisk non-essential

2019-12-25 Thread Holger Levsen
On Tue, Dec 24, 2019 at 01:03:05AM +0100, Helmut Grohne wrote:
> I want make fdisk removable from an essential base system. The details
> are listed in #947134. Since fdisk currently is pseudo-essential,
> packages do not need to declare a dependency on it. When fdisk becomes
> non-essential, such dependencies become required. A lot of packages that
> use fdisk have since added the relevant dependency (see `apt rdepends
> fdisk`). To fix the remaining packages, I intend to perform a mass bug
> filing.
> 
> I intend to use the following text as a mail template.

cool & thanks for your work on this!


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Re: default firewall utility changes for Debian 11 bullseye

2019-12-25 Thread Mike Gabriel
Hi Wookey,

Am Mittwoch, 31. Juli 2019 schrieb Wookey:
> On 2019-07-16 11:57 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > 
> > What would/should Debian recommend to configure the firewall on the server
> > case ?
> > 
> > I was recommending creating firewall rules with fwbuilder up to now (see
> > https://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.firewall-packet-filtering.html)
> > 
> > The other desktop firewall that I know is "ufw" 
> 
> What is the modern equivalent of 'ipmasq'? I still miss this tool on a
> regular basis and loved what it did. I have not found a replacement
> and forever end up looking up runes on the net and doing it by hand
> with iptables. ('it' being setting up my machine to listen on
> one interface (e.g. to a dev board) and forward everything to/from the
> real internet (wifi or ethernet). ipmasq did agreat job of hiding the
> previous transition from ipchains to iptables. I've never heard of
> nftables which is apparently the new thing. Nor firewalld - perhaps it
> would do what I want?
> 
> For those too young to know, ipmasq basically does(did - removed in
> 2009!) what the script on this page does for you:
> https://debian-administration.org/article/23/Setting_up_a_simple_Debian_gateway

I use uif for the use case of yours.

Mike

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Re: default firewall utility changes for Debian 11 bullseye

2019-12-25 Thread Mike Gabriel
Hi,

Am Mittwoch, 31. Juli 2019 schrieb Scott Kitterman:
> 
> 
> On July 30, 2019 11:52:30 AM UTC, Arturo Borrero Gonzalez  
> wrote:
> >Ok, after a couple of weeks, lets try to summarize:
> >
> >On 7/16/19 11:07 AM, Arturo Borrero Gonzalez wrote:
> >> 
> >> This email contains 2 changes/proposals for Debian 11 bullseye:
> >> 
> >> 1) switch priority values for iptables/nftables, i.e, make nftables
> >Priority:
> >> important and iptables Priority: optional
> >> 
> >
> >Nobody seems to disagree with this point. So I will be doing this soon.
> >
> >> 2) introduce firewalld as the default firewalling wrapper in Debian,
> >at least in
> >> desktop related tasksel tasks.
> >> 
> >
> >There are some mixed feelings about this. However I couldn't find any
> >strong
> >opinion against either.
> >
> >What I would do regarding this is (just a suggestion):
> >* raise priority of firewalld
> >* document in-wiki what defaults are, and how to move away from them
> >* include some documentation bits in other firewalling wrappers on how
> >to deal
> >with this default, i.e what needs to be changed in the system for ufw
> >to work
> >without interferences (disable firewalld?)
> >
> >I don't maintain/control firewalld/ufw so I can't do these changes
> >myself and
> >will leave to Cyril/Michael/Jaime handle the situation for new bullseye
> >install
> >as they see fit.
> 
> Please don't install one by default.  I suspect it will cause more trouble 
> for end users than it's worth.  Making sure our default install is severely 
> limited in what ports it listens to is likely more broadly useful and less 
> risky.
> 

Also chiming in on the no-firewall-by-default tune...

Mike 

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Re: MBF: make fdisk non-essential

2019-12-25 Thread Ansgar
Thomas Goirand writes:
> Do you already have a list of affected package?

A list of affected packages was attached to the mail.

Ansgar



Re: MBF: make fdisk non-essential

2019-12-25 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 12/24/19 1:03 AM, Helmut Grohne wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I want make fdisk removable from an essential base system. The details
> are listed in #947134. Since fdisk currently is pseudo-essential,
> packages do not need to declare a dependency on it. When fdisk becomes
> non-essential, such dependencies become required. A lot of packages that
> use fdisk have since added the relevant dependency (see `apt rdepends
> fdisk`). To fix the remaining packages, I intend to perform a mass bug
> filing.
> 
> I intend to use the following text as a mail template.
> [...]

Thanks for this useful work. Everything which can make the minimal base
install smaller is a good thing.

Do you already have a list of affected package?

Cheers,

Thomas Goirand (zigo)