Re: looking for debian friendly web app technology
Hi, What do we think about "accessibility" in this thread? The MSAA like helping for visually challenged, or the global avaiblity (and acceptance) of QT? As of Qt 5.15, (and Qt 6.4.x lately) you do not have to make the hard choice between responsive webpage or desktop application, since you can generate both from the same QT source code. The native is native, the browser based using WebAssembly technology. (I think MSAA is not yet supported for WebAssembly till this date, but please double check this information!) The downside of these things, that current Debian does not seem to include Qt6 at all and I have no idea when it can go into the mainstream Debian, while there are a lot of project could be waiting for it. (Even my one is still pending for Debian). Qt6 for Debian is still in unstable/experimental state, which drives the developers like me to find other alternatives instead of Debian or for Debian. Best regards, Imre 2022. 12. 13. 1:48 keltezéssel, Sam Hartman írta: I wrote too early sry. A desktop app is also possible. I will use qt. Thanks for your time. QT accessibility has improved a lot, but I suspect that a single page web app with vuejs and a good widget set on top of that is going to be more accessible than a QT app even today. I find I stumble less with web app accessibility than I do with linux desktop accessibility, although both are usable.
Re: looking for debian friendly web app technology
On Mon, 2022-12-12 at 18:01 +0100, Andreas Josef Heil wrote: > I wan't a highly interactive web app, A desktop app is also possible. What program are you intending to develop? -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Bug#1025998: ITP: libnginx-mod-js -- JavaScript module for Nginx
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jérémy Lal X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, Debian Nginx Maintainers * Package name: libnginx-mod-js Version : 0.7.9 Upstream Contact: nginx-de...@nginx.org * URL : https://nginx.org/en/docs/njs/ * License : BSD-2-clause Programming Lang: C Description : JavaScript module for Nginx This module extends Nginx with configuration directives that allows one to run a subset of ECMAScript 5.1 (and later extensions) language. Its HTTP module features integration with - response body filter - location content handler - http, server, location variables Its Stream module features integration with - the access phase - the content phase - stream, server variables I have been using Lua in Nginx for a while, and that's fine, with an abundant ecosystem. However JavaScript extensions in Nginx is going to be way more easy, and there is a trend in that direction. So I will be using that package, and maintaining it as well in the nginx team.
Re: looking for debian friendly web app technology
>I wrote too early sry. A desktop app is also possible. I will use qt. >Thanks for your time. QT accessibility has improved a lot, but I suspect that a single page web app with vuejs and a good widget set on top of that is going to be more accessible than a QT app even today. I find I stumble less with web app accessibility than I do with linux desktop accessibility, although both are usable.
Bug#1025977: ITP: node-file-uri-to-path -- Convert a file: URI to a file path
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Israel Galadima X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: node-file-uri-to-path Version : 2.0.0 Upstream Author : Nathan Rajlich (http://n8.io/) * URL : https://github.com/TooTallNate/file-uri-to-path * License : Expat Programming Lang: JavaScript Description : Convert a file: URI to a file path Accepts a file: URI and returns a regular file path suitable for use with the nodejs fs module functions. This package is part of my effort to package corepack for Debian. Package will be maintained by the Debian JavaScript Team.
Bug#1025972: ITP: node-socks-proxy-agent -- SOCKS proxy http.Agent implementation for HTTP and HTTPS
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Israel Galadima X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: node-socks-proxy-agent Version : 7.0.0 Upstream Author : Nathan Rajlich (http://n8.io/) * URL : https://github.com/TooTallNate/node-socks-proxy-agent#readme * License : Expat Programming Lang: JavaScript Description : SOCKS proxy http.Agent implementation for HTTP and HTTPS This module provides an http.Agent implementation that connects to a specified SOCKS proxy server, and can be used with the built-in http, https modules and in conjunction with the ws module to establish a WebSocket connection over a SOCKS proxy. This package is part of my effort to package corepack for Debian. Package will be maintained by the Debian JavaScript Team.
Re: looking for debian friendly web app technology
I wrote too early sry. A desktop app is also possible. I will use qt. Thanks for your time. Regards, Andy On 12.12.22 18:01, Andreas Josef Heil wrote: I think static site generators as well as indie web technology is more about websites and social networking, but I wan't a highly interactive web app, preferable a single page application. Is there no javascript spa framework/lib with a full featured ui library for debian? Vuejs is packaged for debian but not vuetifiy. Is it lot of work to package vuetify? On 10.12.22 11:06, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Quoting Paul Wise (2022-12-10 03:51:20) On Fri, 2022-12-09 at 13:12 +0100, Andreas Josef Heil wrote: I'd like to develop a free software web app and I wanne be the debian maintainer for it. It should be fully integrated to debian und freedombox. What web technology should I use? Personally I would suggest to focus on static site generators, that only produce web pages that utilise progressive enhancement. This sort of web site is more performant for users, more flexible for hosting and easier to archive at the end of life of the website. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Static_site_generator http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_enhancement If possible I would consider making it a Linux desktop app instead. I fully agree with Pabs. On top of that, I would suggest to consider not only more sustainable _content_ production and consumption through the above methods, but also more sustainable _application_ production and consumption: Avoid reinventing wheels by breaking the task into components that process content via the Micropub standard and other Indieweb mechanisms, and then reuse existing components and write only components missing. E.g. if you like to code in Perl, then write a Micropub plugin for existing static site generator Ikiwiki already part of FreedomBox, so that everyone already using Ikiwiki (not only FreedomBox users) can edit their content natively e.g. using exisitng Android app Indigenous. Or if you like to code in PHP, then write a Micropub plugin for Mediawiki, (less sustainable but) also already part of FreedomBox. Or maybe skip coding from scratch altogether and instead package existing plugin and theme for Wordpress, (also less sustainable but) already already part of FreedomBox. Or if you like to code in Python, then write a Micropub plugin for Radicale, translating between ical data and Micropub Event data. Radicale is already in FreedomBox. Or maybe write a Micropub media endpoint that hooks into Matrix, enabling Micropub-based editors like Indigenous to reuse images and videos posted in Matrix rooms. Matrix server is already in FreedomBox. https://www.w3.org/TR/micropub/ https://wordpress.org/plugins/micropub/ https://wordpress.org/plugins/indieweb/ https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.indieweb.indigenous/ http://microformats.org/wiki/h-event https://www.w3.org/TR/micropub/#media-endpoint - Jonas
Bug#1025968: ITP: node-socks -- Fully featured SOCKS proxy client
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Israel Galadima X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: node-socks Version : 2.7.1 Upstream Author : Josh Glazebrook * URL : https://github.com/JoshGlazebrook/socks/ * License : Expat Programming Lang: JavaScript Description : Fully featured SOCKS proxy client Fully featured SOCKS proxy client supporting SOCKSv4, SOCKSv4a, and SOCKSv5. Includes Bind and Associate functionality. This package is part of my effort to package corepack for Debian. Package will be maintained by the Debian JavaScript Team.
Re: looking for debian friendly web app technology
I think static site generators as well as indie web technology is more about websites and social networking, but I wan't a highly interactive web app, preferable a single page application. Is there no javascript spa framework/lib with a full featured ui library for debian? Vuejs is packaged for debian but not vuetifiy. Is it lot of work to package vuetify? On 10.12.22 11:06, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Quoting Paul Wise (2022-12-10 03:51:20) On Fri, 2022-12-09 at 13:12 +0100, Andreas Josef Heil wrote: I'd like to develop a free software web app and I wanne be the debian maintainer for it. It should be fully integrated to debian und freedombox. What web technology should I use? Personally I would suggest to focus on static site generators, that only produce web pages that utilise progressive enhancement. This sort of web site is more performant for users, more flexible for hosting and easier to archive at the end of life of the website. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Static_site_generator http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_enhancement If possible I would consider making it a Linux desktop app instead. I fully agree with Pabs. On top of that, I would suggest to consider not only more sustainable _content_ production and consumption through the above methods, but also more sustainable _application_ production and consumption: Avoid reinventing wheels by breaking the task into components that process content via the Micropub standard and other Indieweb mechanisms, and then reuse existing components and write only components missing. E.g. if you like to code in Perl, then write a Micropub plugin for existing static site generator Ikiwiki already part of FreedomBox, so that everyone already using Ikiwiki (not only FreedomBox users) can edit their content natively e.g. using exisitng Android app Indigenous. Or if you like to code in PHP, then write a Micropub plugin for Mediawiki, (less sustainable but) also already part of FreedomBox. Or maybe skip coding from scratch altogether and instead package existing plugin and theme for Wordpress, (also less sustainable but) already already part of FreedomBox. Or if you like to code in Python, then write a Micropub plugin for Radicale, translating between ical data and Micropub Event data. Radicale is already in FreedomBox. Or maybe write a Micropub media endpoint that hooks into Matrix, enabling Micropub-based editors like Indigenous to reuse images and videos posted in Matrix rooms. Matrix server is already in FreedomBox. https://www.w3.org/TR/micropub/ https://wordpress.org/plugins/micropub/ https://wordpress.org/plugins/indieweb/ https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.indieweb.indigenous/ http://microformats.org/wiki/h-event https://www.w3.org/TR/micropub/#media-endpoint - Jonas
Bug#1025952: ITP: node-smart-buffer -- smart-buffer improves nodejs Buffer functionality
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Israel Galadima X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: node-smart-buffer Version : 4.2.0 Upstream Author : Josh Glazebrook * URL : https://github.com/JoshGlazebrook/smart-buffer/ * License : Expat Programming Lang: JavaScript Description : smart-buffer improves nodejs Buffer functionality smart-buffer is a Buffer wrapper that adds automatic read & write offset tracking, string operations, data insertions, and more. This package is part of my effort to package corepack for Debian. Package will be maintained by the Debian JavaScript Team.
